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So the Saints finally gave me and all the other hard-to-please, perfectionist, "whiny" Saints fans a performance to write home about. They finally got back on track. The running game flourished, the play calling was balanced and the defense was stingy. Naturally I'm ecstatic, right? Well...sort of. Obviously it's great to see the Saints return to championship form and dominate a weaker opponent the way they did last year. But, of course, there are two sides to every coin. 

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What yesterday's victory proves is that this is very much the talented Saints team we knew they could be. The Saints obviously have the ability to put together sixty minutes of good football in all phases. On paper there is very little difference between this years team and last; yesterday we saw that they can be very similar on the field as well. This is a team from which we are reasonably allowed to expect much. And when key players get healthy, we should be able to expect even more. 

But that would also mean the Saints were, in fact, under-performing during their first five games of the season. They didn't lose to the Falcons and the Cardinals because they weren't good enough. They lost because they didn't play as well as they should have. Straight up. The good news is that we don't have to acknowledge that the Saints are just a mediocre team with limited potential. This isn't a talentless team, regardless of injury. We can now rule that option out. The bad news, however, is that we have reason to worry about which team is actually going to show up for any given game. We may have a consistency problem.

So the million dollar question becomes: Will the Saints continue to play like they did yesterday or will they slide back to their early season form?

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Great Article Dave

What I saw yesterday was what was missing during the 5 week stretch. The Fire, The Passion, The Spark, The Confidence! And the playcalling was outstanding. They looked re focused.

  I believe they are back on track…..and key word, am very “Hopeful”

by Jricky70 on Oct 18, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Noone is consistent this year.

Except the Bills and Panthers who are both consistently bad, and one is consistently in a massive steep decline.

Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.

by Jon Banks on Oct 18, 2010 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

True

Noone in the NFC is dominant by any means. There’s a lot of football left. We just need to keep improving and winning.

by Jricky70 on Oct 18, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh
So the Saints finally gave me and all the other hard-to-please, perfectionist, “whiny” Saints fans a performance to write home about.

I lol’d at this, professor not happy with me.

Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.

by Jon Banks on Oct 18, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

and the week after that

but I will enjoy this win and every other win as long as they come…

It’s gonna be a great year!

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Oct 18, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I want to see, but...

I want to see if we can be consistent. In 2008, we were up and down and that is my concern about this year. If we open a can on the Browns, I’ll feel a little bit better and if we play well against the steelers as well, my fears will be more or less put to rest.

"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010

by SaintBevo on Oct 18, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd Saint Bevo

In 2008 we were Jeckyll N Hyde. Hot as hell one week, down the next. As long as we have balance and minimal turnovers, I think we’ll be alright.

by Jricky70 on Oct 18, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the real measuring stick will be the Steelers

I’m pleased with how the Saints played yeasterday, but the Bucs clearly were not as good as thier record would have one believe. Lets face it, their 3 wins were against Carolina, Cleveland, and Cincy.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Oct 18, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

God, Dave, you're such a whiner.

Can you please just put a positive spin on everything? For example, the pick Brees threw… I can’t be angry about it because it had such a good spiral.

Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~Heywood Hale Brown

by jack_casse on Oct 18, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah...

Speaking of magnets… how about the ones we snuck into the Buc’s goal posts?

Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~Heywood Hale Brown

by jack_casse on Oct 18, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL ! maybe there should be a rule change. Rec'd ya.

If you can hit the upright twice in a row you get 2 points. LOL

by saints-fan-in-miss on Oct 18, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe

Stop making me laugh people.

Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.

by Jon Banks on Oct 18, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saints ranked eighth in total offense and seventh in total defense after this game. Pretty good looking, especially when the offense starts putting together more games like this one. Who knew in preseason that our defense would be ranked higher?

by AJG on Oct 18, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

If we did this to the Steelers or the Ravens the i would be convinced that this was a breakout game.

For me a Breakout game = Saints VS Patriots (2009)

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Oct 18, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Saints VS PatriotsDolphins (2009)

Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.

by Jon Banks on Oct 18, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

2nd half only

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Oct 18, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

They proved they were for real. And could win any game they wanted to win.

Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.

by Jon Banks on Oct 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Saints Vs Patriots! Good God how frig'n cool was that!

If I remember right Brees hit Henderson long on first snap and never looked back. Belechick pulled his starters with 5 + mins left. Waved the white flag!

by saints-fan-in-miss on Oct 18, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

"We may have a consistency problem."

I am patiently waiting to see what the next two weeks bring and although he looked much better I still got a sense that Brees wasn’t totally comfortable. Maybe an aura or something? It seems like he is getting back to the Brees we know with each game. I’m beginning to wonder if it’s a lack of confidence in the O line that also seems to be improving? Did anyone else get that or am I reading too much into it (or b/c of my rookie status?)

Maybe the real consistency on this team is that defense is playing well, Brees is getting back to being Brees and there are way too many penalties (although there were a few that should have been called on the Bucs).

Breesus Is My Homeboy

by SarahT on Oct 18, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Great win! I'm excited, but still cautiosly optimisitic.

When remembering this beat down by our guys, there’s two things that should be considered:

1. The Bucs have a terrible run defense. Their young DTs were clearly outmatched this game. Was our big time running yardage more on their inexperience or was it that our O-line finally got their act together in creating good blocking for our RBs? I’m hoping it was a little of both and not just that their D-line is still a work in progress.

2. How much did Josh Freeman miss center Jeff Faine? I don’t know, so that’s why I’m asking. Their offense seemed shaky all game with bad passes and drops. Their kicker also missed 2 FGs (not that it would’ve mattered).

I’m excited about what I saw yesterday, but am still unwilling to now expect similar performances from here on out. I’ll enjoy this win for this week (and the Falcons’ loss) and hope we keep it going. The Browns are another team with lots of problems. Let’s hope our guys can exploit them. The only Brown that scares me is Peyton Hillis. That dude is a one-man wrecking machine. I’m sure Gregg Williams will be mostly focusing on stopping him.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Oct 18, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

you're right

The Bucs have a terrible run defense.

This has been lost in the ivory love-fest. We’ll see in the next couple of weeks if this was a turning point.

"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010

by SaintBevo on Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

SaintBevo First I don't know where Cards rushing defense rates but guess pretty low.

We sure didn’t burn them up. Just feel that Ivory is getting comfortable and confedent. O line is also geting back to 09 form. This only bodes well for future play. IMO We will see.

by saints-fan-in-miss on Oct 18, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

They really played about as inconsistently last year. The kicking game is the exact same, and last year our run game declined down the stretch, we ran out of CB’s midseason and couldn’t stop the Rams from scoring, we played spectacular nail-biters against the miserable Redskins and the Dirty Birds led by Chris Redman and Aaron Stecker, and we changed from a team that came out of the gate guns blazing to one that took a while to
wake up and had to come back late in games. We just didn’t lose so early. In my mind, the changes are all academic. Chris Ivory fell from heaven like Mana, or Marques Colston all of a sudden, our slow-on-the-uptake 1st round rookie CB has come into his own, and has been replaced by a new “developing” rookie CB, and our defense has gone from letting teams march up and down the field then taking the ball away to playing more solid from the outset and getting stops. The only thing I’m really displeased with(other than losing at he to Hotlanta on what should have been a gimme) is the number of dropped passes by our unchanged-in-3-years WR corps. Brees wouldn’t look so embattled if just half of the drops were converted to gains.

On a side note, how many games with no lost fumbles and 5+ ypc averages does Ivory need before next offseason’s journeyman RB merry-go-round is a 3 horse race?

"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis

by FuSoYa on Oct 18, 2010 12:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

The real test comes in two weeks.

My elation over their strong showing yesterday is lower on the emotion scale than was my disappointment last week against the Cardinals.

I’m hoping that game (Arizona) served as the wake up call the Saints needed. So far, so good. How well they play against the Steelers, win or lose, will be the biggest indicator of the season regarding how much the real possibility of a repeat exists. For any NFC contenders this year, getting to the Super Bowl is probably going to be easier than winning it.

by Drew-Dat on Oct 18, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Ivory has to keep it going--running angry and straight ahead to keep the balance...

until we can get PT back—and after for depth. I think that is the key to the offense along with play calling. In the Vikings game we went pass happy to long before returning to up the middle runs and balance. We have to try to run it anyway even if Ivory does get bottled up. Overall, the Saints have been playing well and in every game. Just win baby I say and get a kicker that can kick chip shots. If you are missing thirty yard field goals, you gotta go.

"When a hurricane damaged my father's house, my brother rushed over with a gas grill, three coolers of beer, and an enormous F***-It Bucket - a plastic pail filled with jawbreakers and bite-size candy bars. ("When s*** brings you down, just say 'f*** it,' and eat yourself some motherf****** candy.")"
— David Sedaris from "You Can't Kill the Rooster"

by mjtig on Oct 18, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Ask me in 2 weeks

I need to see more consistency before i jump back onto the “everything’s back to normal” ship. I don’t feel as good as I did last year about the Saints but this was a really good step in the right direction. A couple more and I’ll feel alot better

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Oct 18, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you Skinny

one’s an occurrence, two’s a coincidence, and three is a trend, while 4 is a goshdarn avalanche

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Oct 18, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it me

or does it seem like we can’t get the takeaways like we used to? I know our D is looking really good, but where’s the takeaways I’m used to seeing our D get? And where in the hell is Will Smith? I think he had limited play this week, but what happened to the 13.5 sacks he had just 1 year ago? Don’t get me wrong, I love my Saints and I’m glad they actually showed up to play this week. It makes me so proud to know that they can still put up 30+ points. And boy, did Ivory have one hell of a game or what? That makes me feel a little better about our RB situation.

"It's about time something good like this happened." Drew Brees

by saints_r_us#9 on Oct 19, 2010 12:13 AM CDT reply actions  

They're getting the ball out

but they haven’t been able to recover the fumbles very often. A lot of that just comes down to luck. The interceptions are down, but some of that is due to better opposing QBs. Last year at this time, the Saints had faced Stafford, Edwards, Kolb, Sanchez, Manning (the crappy one), and Henne. That’s about as weak of a list of starting QBs as you could ask for. This year, it’s Favre, Smith, Ryan, Clausen, Hall, and Freeman. Admittedly, that’s not an all star lineup, but it’s better than the former six. Favre and Ryan are very good QBs, Freeman has improved dramatically (especially his decision making), and Alex Smith played the game of his life. More importantly, the really green QBs this year were never trying to recover from a really big deficit (with one exception), so they never felt pressured to make very risky throws. Also, Jenkins isn’t nearly as good at catching as Sharper is.

I don’t know what to make of Will Smith. He has been injured for two weeks – he didn’t play at all against Arizona, and very little against TB. Also, I think he’s been rotated more than last year with Charleston playing better. But when he is in, he doesn’t seem to be getting the same penetration he did last year. I wonder if it’s partly due to coaching. They may have told him to focus more on run containment, which he is better at this year. In any case, he’s doesn’t seem to be beating guys around the edge, and that’s typically where he gets sacks.

by HB-NOLA on Oct 19, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

Alot has to do with the QBs and the scores of games. We’re forcing fumbles just not getting to them and i’ve seen about 2 or 3 plays from Jenkins alone where he strips the ball about 1/2 a second too late. I think that Jenkins has very good hands(watch some highlights from his college days, sometimes he looks like a WR out there) he’s just not getting himself into position to make plays like Sharper did. That comes with experience. Sharper was a big part of our turnovers last year and I think that the QBs we’ve been playing have been even more careful than usual against passing against us. They know what we did last year and it makes the oppossing QB feel like he has to be more careful with the ball imo. Part of it is GW’s playcalling also. Hopefully we can start getting more TOs soon because I doubt our D can keep up the good work of keeping points off the board.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Oct 20, 2010 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

Thank you for enlightening me.

"It's about time something good like this happened." Drew Brees

by saints_r_us#9 on Oct 20, 2010 1:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Dangit. I meant to reply to HB-NOLA.

"It's about time something good like this happened." Drew Brees

by saints_r_us#9 on Oct 20, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

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