Accountability Index Update
by stujo4 on Oct 22, 2010 4:37 PM CDT
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PrintFunny how things change with a little passing of time. Not talking about my face. Talking about Sharper and Jenkins. And Mike Bell. And LT2. But not Ingram. Oh hell no, that ain't changing.
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May 19 July 7 July 15 Sep 7 Sep 7 Sep 30 |
Carolina Panthers are not in steep decline in 2010 |
"Steep decline" is putting it mildly and politely. Might be the last team to win a game in 2010. |
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May 3 |
Objection to rotoworld opinion (Jenkins stays at corner) after Sharper's signing for 2010 |
Depends on Sharper making the team. I agree that Jenkins moves to S as soon as Sharper is off the roster. He's on PUP for 6 weeks. Week 7 resolves this: Cut, benched, or starting at FS. |
Sharper will come off the bench in special packages. Jenkins is the starter. You were right and I was wrong, Satch. |
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Apr 25, May 19 |
CP favors Julius Jones as a Saint |
Be careful what you wish for. |
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Oct 12 |
If Julius Jones turns out to be Mike Bell, I'm giving up on Rotoworld |
Not too worried about it. Except he is wearing 21 as his uni #. |
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Sep 22 |
CP demands vindication for proposing LT2 as the Saints' RB2-3 based on his performance for the Jets. |
Rotoworld: The old man simply looks like the better option than the youngster right now. It's clear that we've underestimated how much injuries slowed LT the last two seasons, because now that he's healthy he looks terrific. This will be a committee, but Tomlinson is the clear leader right now. |
LT2 said he wasn't healthy the last 2 years. He is truly a fine specimen. I wrote him off too soon. |
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Sep 25 |
Prefers Wynn over TUSK! Implies Wynn is less injury prone than TUSK! |
Maybe if he's less fumble prone. |
Wynn was waived Oct 12 |
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Sep 24 |
Reggie: Lance Moore can do the same thing in the passing game. TUSK! will make Reggie obsolete. |
Looking good on the Lance part. Need more time on the TUSK! part. Time and Jesus1000 intervention. |
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Sep 21 |
Hopes Clint Ingram will add stability at LB |
Rotoworld.com: He's eligible to return in Week 7, though the Saints won't be counting on Ingram after a slow recovery from what was initially characterized as a "small" microfracture procedure. He many not have much left upon return. |
Ingram was waived Oct 20. Slow healer. |
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June 28 July 6 July 19 July 19 July 19 Sep 8 |
Questions about Mike Martz's ability to improve Jay Cutler's performance |
Hard to evaluate with no pass blocking. Leads the league with 23 sacks despite missing a game with a concussion. |
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Sep 8 |
As for Matt Forte, you're going to say he's back to his rookie form based on a performance against the RAIDERS? |
Rotoworld.com: Oct 10: There's no question that his burst is back this season. |
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Sep 27 |
Garrett Hartley keeps his active roster spot with the Saints in 2010, he won't be Mehlhaff'd. |
Payton likes the fat punk kicker. Me too. |
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August 4 |
Malcolm Jenkins will start 13+ games at FS |
6 down, 7 to go |
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Sep 7 |
Preseason power ranking for Saints: 5th |
The nerd hedged and is looking pretty smug right now. |
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June 28 Sep 7 |
Falcons more likely to have losing record than Panters |
Was this dumber on Jun 28 or Sep 7? |
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June 16, 18 Sep 7 Sep 9 |
Chargers win the AFC west in 2010 |
The Bolts have the #1 offense and #1 defense, yet they're 2-4. |
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June 28 July 19 July 20 |
Matt Ryan is a middle of the pack QB |
After 6 games, ranks 11th in passing yards, tied for 8th in passing TD's. |
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June 16 |
Not too worried about losing Bell. (Hans: PJ Hill not a replacement) Split Bell's carries between all RB's: |
TUSK! looking BETTER than Mike Bell. Except for the limping part. |
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May 14 |
Condemned Ricky Williams draft day trade, applauded Tebow draft day trade |
Tebow scored his first NFL TD out of the "Wild Horses" formation. Will outlive Keith Richards. That's about it. |
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July 8 July 19 |
Saints will finish as 3rd seed in NFC in 2010 |
It's wide open in the NFC. |
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May 17 |
Believes Payton was addicted to Vicodin and Loomis aided cover-up |
Functional prescription drug addiction is so tiresomely trendy |
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July 20 |
2010 Saints running game will fail, causing team to collapse |
Patrick comes to the office next week. I'll update. |
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August 24 |
Rookie Matt Tennant will be the starting center by midseason |
Goodwin's contract is up after this year. He'd have to really suck to lose his job before then. |
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September 4 |
Roethlisberger will end up in jail |
Big Ben has been a model citizen lately. How long can that last? |
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June 11 |
CP thinks PT and Reggie both gone in 2011 |
Outrageous at first, now looking prophetic. But as long as Payton is coach, Reggie's NFL career is with the Saints. |
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You know I thought I would make it on here w/ my Tomorrow…Tomorrow… post just for the fact everyone hated it so much.
"I understand this is a violent game. It's the only place you can hit somebody and not go to jail. So you understand that it's a privilege to play this game." Danny Clark
You have to say something outrageous or predict something Stu would kill you for saying.
Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.
"kill" is a bit strong
I’m all for free speech. But if it’s stupid, you’re going on the List.
"He's every rich kid you knew in college who read The Fountainhead once and loved the idea that sharing is immoral."
QUESTION
Just for the record, how are we defining “Steep Decline?”
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Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.
by Jon Banks on Oct 22, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
boom rec'd it
Like, free fall. Like, Jesus1000 when is this going to END?
"He's every rich kid you knew in college who read The Fountainhead once and loved the idea that sharing is immoral."
Just for the record
Are those I’s or lower case L’s?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Lower case "L"
Week 7 matchup: Browns
Week 7 motto: Keep it rolling, keep it moving, don't stop till the whistle blows.
MtnExile makes his futile defense
Once again, I don’t understand how I got lumped into the Panthers defenders. I said " If [Moore] can be efficient, and the Panthers’ run game doesn’t slow down any, Carolina will be a tough nut to crack." The Panthers are in a steep decline because Moore wasn’t efficient (nor was Clausen), and the run game slowed down. It was a (all together now…you remember this from the last lesson) “conditional statement,” not a prediction.
As far as Cutler is concerned, I’m already declaring victory. Jay is an idiot who can’t read defenses, doesn’t understand Martz’s system, and holds the ball too long. He did okay in the first two games, when he had five TDs and only one pick. Since then, in three games, he’s completed only 53% of his passes, has only one TD and two interceptions, has been sacked 18 times (he’s on track for over 70 sacks this season), and is in, shall we say, steep decline. Listen to good Nawlins boy Marshall Faulk excoriate him on NFL.com sometime.
It was worth the wait.
let me splain someting to ju
I said " If [Moore] can be efficient, and the Panthers’ run game doesn’t slow down any,
That is precisely how you got on the List. I felt strongly that neither of those things were going to happen due to the collapse of the rest of the team. GM, coach, defense, receiving corps, OL and DL. If you say “conditional statement” one more time…. well, stop weaseling and waffling, I’ll leave it at that.
Jay is an idiot who can’t read defenses, doesn’t understand Martz’s system, and holds the ball too long.
Martz seems to be very pleased with Cutler. It’s the pass blocking that is terrible. If by “too long” you mean over a half second, then I agree, because that’s about how long he has to decide to throw before he gets buried.
What is it with you and quarterbacks who have poor offensive lines, like Archie Manning?
Thanks for replying though. I missed you this week.
"He's every rich kid you knew in college who read The Fountainhead once and loved the idea that sharing is immoral."
It's not all Cutler's fault
but he doesn’t seem to understand the concept of a hot read. You’d think he would learn that pretty quickly with an offensive line as bad as his. Also, it is up to the QB to adjust the protection scheme based on what he sees from the defense.
Cutler
Has had a history of looking for the deep ball and hanging onto the ball. Take the Giants game for instance, when he was knocked out of the game after being sacked 9 times. He had an underneath option available, but he waited for the deep pass to develop and it didn’t. Cutler has a strong arm, but so did JaMarcus Russel (LSU, LSU). He looks like he throws 30-40 yard bullets with zero effort at the flick of a wrist, but hanging on for that show of arm strength can often lead to sacks. Now before I make the accountabilipissed list, Cutler has more talent, a better organization and much better coaching to develop him into a top tier QB than Russel ever did. I like Cutler, and I think he is the perfect QB for the Bears, and I think the trade of Orton for Cutler worked out better for the Bears, but Cutler still has a lot of work to put in to be the QB the Bears are looking for.
Just as a note on the pass blocking, when going up against a huge pass rush D, I figure you instantly begin practicing the swing pass and the check down route as a staple. I figure that it should be used quickly against a pass rush d such as the Giants, Vikings, Cowboys, 49ers, etc. Cutler needs to be working on the swing pass and screens moreso than the bomb. He needs some tutoring on his defensive reads and a little better vision in seeing the blitz. He knows his line will offer some protection, but he needs to go to his less flashy check down route more often to keep the opposing defenses honest.
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Oct 23, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, you should listen to Marshall Faulk
He played several years in Martz’s system, and understands it thoroughly. And he blasts Cutler again and again for holding onto the ball too long. In Martz’s scheme, it’s understood that the line can only accomplish so much, and the quarterback’s first responsibility is identifying the rushers who won’t get picked up. Every blitz creates an opportunity, especially when you have five guys going out on patterns. The QB has to know when to get rid of the ball to a hot receiver quickly, and Cutler can’t do that. Because he’s stupid. He’s Forrest Gump with an arm instead of legs, and without the personality.
It was worth the wait.
Throw, Cutler, Throw!!
I love you, Jenny.
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Oct 23, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
from that day on
whenever I was throwing somewhere, I was getting SACKED!
I want the gas pedal down...
by CrazyforColston on Oct 23, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I just did listen to Faulk, Sapp, Irvin, and Mooch
“Is Cutler the wrong QB for Martz’s offense?” They all said NO. He doesn’t trust his receivers and needs to throw, yes. But the primary blame is on the pass blocking. Baldinger showed film of pass rushers coming unblocked on both ends, repeatedly. Also the receiving corp is not as good as what Cutler had in Denver (I thought they would be better this year, I was wrong). Cutler is not the primary problem, they all agreed.
"He's every rich kid you knew in college who read The Fountainhead once and loved the idea that sharing is immoral."
The Bears have only running the ball 44.4% of the time on offense. That’s not where any team can afford to be, if you’re looking to properly evaluate their starting QB. Cutler’s actually done better than expected, considering the imbalance.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
1.4 yards per carry. Martz says there is no use in running until the blocking improves.
"He's every rich kid you knew in college who read The Fountainhead once and loved the idea that sharing is immoral."
I completely disagree with that, btw. No team can afford to abandon either the run or the pass based on its success rate. Otherwise, you wind up losing both. Only two things should dictate abandonment of the run: the clock (when trailing late) or losing every RB/FB to injury. Even in the case of the latter, I’d be doing my damndest to incorporate a few Wildcat plays in here and there.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
You are the anti-Mike Martz.
"He's every rich kid you knew in college who read The Fountainhead once and loved the idea that sharing is immoral."
I am. I respect him as a QB mentor. He’s the best in the business, from a mechanics standpoint. I’ve never really seen the upside in his pass-heavy playcalling, though. I think St. Louis would have been a formidable offense over a much longer stretch, had Marshall Faulk carried the ball more often. The most rushing attempts he had as a Ram was 260. He topped that 4 out of the 5 years he was a Colt. Of course, Warner was a much more prolific passer than Jim Harbaugh … just as Brees is to Brooks … I just think you’re wasting that advantage when it becomes the focal point of your offense. Having a top tier QB should be what pushes you over the top, not what gets you up the mountain.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
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