Cleveland Browns 30 @ New Orleans Saints 17: The View from Section 140

Looked like a mix-up between QB and receiver. Meachem was looking for the back shoulder throw and Brees threw it deep. Saw this same issue with the Packers last night as well. Seems like the Saints wouldn’t have these mistakes. Need to put more time in on the practice field imo.

They did show the Roby hit on the chain gang guy. Looked serious. Haven’t heard anything else about it. Hope he’s ok

but I can’t argue against the inconsistency all around—O-line, Brees, ect.—but am still optimistic at 4-3. Brees needs to get it together. He is usually so accurate and that first pick to Fujita—man I hate him for that and his influence—was way off. If anyone can break down what the Browns were doing on pass defense, I would appreciate it because Brees was confused a lot. I did see on one play that they were double teaming Colston and another player on the same play. I did like the way Ivory ran and at times we were picking up good yards on first down on runs and moving the chains with balance in the first half.

Got to find a way to beat the Steelers—I hope I see urgency, balanced play calling and disciplined play, but at least we are not the Broncos—sheesh ;) Go Saints! Beat the Steelers.

The new Who Dat Chant before the game is a CURSE! Do away with it!

•I thought I saw Meachem stop running his route for a split second on the “overthrown” ball late in the game. I also thought I saw him slow up a bit on a deep target to him earlier in the game as well. Anyone else catch this?

Yeah, the TV announcer even saw this and pointed it out on replay.

BTW, one of the polls had a question of if we would mind if Drew missed a game for the birth of his son—he shoulda missed this game. We couldn’t have done worse with Brunell in there yesterday. Drew sucked, something is different this season from the past FOUR seasons, not just last year. After that second pick six, I think Payton should have benched him. The game was over and maybe it would have sent him a message that he needs to hear: WAKE THE F*&^ UP!

I read the post “Team Meeting”-point stated I agree with, but it needs to be someone else lead that meeting. Did anyone else see the look of disgust on the face of one of the linemen on the sidelines looking up at Drew after one of his interceptions?

Just my humble opinion…

Is there some kind of rule or guideline in place to prevent a previous team member from doing what Fujita did – I mean he seemed to have literally taken the Saints playbook with him

Did anyone realize that Drew Brees names his son “Bowen” and then throws 2 picks to “Bowens” on Sunday, coincidence?

One point I can agree with…

We’ve seen what they can do at their best, and we’ve seen what they can do at their worst. We just don’t know what we’re going to get until it’s over.

When people ask me what’s wrong with our team, I tell them they they are playing like a “Jekyll and Hyde” team and we never know what to expect. One week, we get mild-mannered and meek Dr. Jekyll, and the next we get mean Mr. Hyde. They need to play mean every week!

Well that was my first ever Saints game.

I still feel sick and probably won’t be posting on here ’til next Sunday.

because :

1) the defense is playing very good in spite of the offense

 2) The offense has so much talent- ( it misses Bush and PT quite significantly though)

- other observations- Drew is not on the same page with any of our RBs- see INT where he thinks Betts is going right but Betts goes left

-Brees doesn’t have the comfort level due to new RBs ( and in some past games several downs w? Graham playing
           pass protection was better w? PT and Reggie in

Brees obviously up all night Tues for birth of his son prob got very little sleep- I think that’s why he got rattled so much

- Fujita is (as I have said all along) a very good, very smart LB. Those that criticized him in NO should now notice how good he is. Without him on the Browns team there are not 4 INTS and probably a Saints victory. He is can play ILB or OLB- 2nd on Browns in tackles.

- Defense played well even without Porter and Greer and Jenkins at CB and Young at safety.

- We won’t win vs. Good Offenses with Young at safety, Jenkins at corner and Porter and Greer out

- Browns do not have a good defense overall- Bowens leads the team with 2 INTS and in INT yardage ( Chris Gocong starts at one of the MLBs, Sheldon Brown in twilight of his career- not impressive) bad defense that knew what we were doing looked good Sunday.

_ Payton should utilize Dave Thomas as FB- (or just involve him more) not for run blocking too often ( once in a while) but it seemed last year he made a lot of things happen by being so damn versatile- confusing defenses, and this year he is an oversight. He is our most consistent offensive player but we shouldn’t overlook him.

- Why not more Shockey? Do we expect to win a game where Betts is our second leading receiver?

Special teams, special teams- Lance, cmon man – that attempted tackle was AWFUL!! Special teams were awful!!

games like that make me want to watch sitcoms instead of football on sunday and monday night. the players should donate their game checks to charity since they most certainly dont deserve to get paid after they skipped the game yesterday.

ps – if i were payton, i would start off practice tomorrow with the offense running tackling drills, if they are going to keep on pulling this bs.

And I thought the Arizona loss was bad.
My take/venting:
1. If I could have been there I would have booed the Saints. They deserved it.
2. Meachem did hesitate a step when he was ‘overthrown’
3. Brees underthrew Meachem on the other long pass that was completed on the 30. Had he led him, Meachem would have scored.
4. Has anyone ever heard of a penalty being called for ‘not getting in bounds fast enough’? Not to mention Roby was PUSHED out of bounds. Not to mention it is the chain guy’s job to get the fork out of the way.
5. The first pass interference call that gave the browns first and goal was complete BS. If anything it was offensive interference however I wouldn’t have called a penalty at all.
6. What exactly did Nicks do to deserve a personal foul? Say a dirty word, god forbid? Nothing that I could see anyway.
7. To summarize points 4-6, the officiating straight up sucked fuzzy bean bag. There were at least 4 calls overturned by red flags and several unreviewable calls that were just flat wrong for both teams.
8. Special teams: holy hell. I don’t know who number 37 is, but he was obviously spotted on tape by the browns cheating over to the gunner from center field before the ball leaves the punters foot. And it was exactly what he did on the fake punt. The Browns were so sure he would do this, they called a fake from thier own 15 on 4th and long when they had the lead. Way to go ass-dart, left it wide open, they didn’t even have to block anybody. An 80 yard fake punt, by the punter, are you s***ing me? He was thier top rusher! The rest of special teams sucked too. Cribbs pass. Lance couldn’t return. To complete the trifecta, I’m sure Hartley would have missed a gimme, too, if we had been close enough in yardage or score to try one.
9. Sean Payton. Mangini and Fujita just donkey-punched you. Mangini and Fujita. Think about that.
10. Drew Brees. Go slap yourself. Stop tweeting about baby names and start playing QB again. You blew this game in spite of all the other s***storm that took place.

I could go on and on, but I need to curl up in the fetal position and try to find my ‘happy place’.

I have never been one to “count my chickens” and with all the pre-Browns game confidence I thought to myself that this one was not going to be as easy as everyone thought. Coming off a solid performance against the Bucs, we had hoped to roll with it. I had no idea that we would lose the game, but I did think that we’d get their (the Browns) best game.
As many have said… we shot ourselves in the foot on this one. BUT…. it’s a long season. We’re not far behind Atlanta. The entire NFC is struggling for momentum. We can and WILL improve. Don’t roll your eyes! (lol)

I suggest that Drew Brees takes some mobile quarterback lessons from Michael Vick or Aaron Rogers. If the receivers are being covered make a move and score a down please.

The game sucked plain and simple. Too many penalties, 4 interceptions, crappy coaching, sitting by assholes (lol). We noticed the same thing about Meachem (?) & so did everyone around us. The assholes behind us were actually cheering and making jokes about the ref that went down. It took a lot for me not to say anything to them. There is nothing funny about neck braces or IV’s. The cheerleaders outfits were worse in person. I realized one of the issues is that they don’t go back and tailor them to the girl’s bodies after passing them out which makes a big difference. We didn’t boo either – would NEVER do that. We did leave after the last interception. Hate to be “that” fan but it hurt too much to stay. The guy outside selling Rangers shirts made us lol.

Either way it was a great experience and I couldn’t be more appreciative of my husband. I am officially stocked up on Saints gear including a new tattoo on my left inner wrist! I will post pics later – we are still in Nola until Wed. We will be stopping by to meet you Dave since we didn’t get a chance at the game.

and it’s costing us games. I’d feel better if i felt like we had a game besides TB that we looked like everyone was playing at the same level for the whole game. It’s been Brees has been great, line was good, no run game or run game was good, oline was good, Brees sucked or some combination of those 3. We haven’t had all 3 of those things going except in the TB game. Also, D has been tremendous. I’m starting to get worried about our chances of making the playoffs. The only good news is that it’s barely starting to get to midseason and no one in the NFC has an awsome record really. There’s 2 teams that are 5-2(one is the Falcons) and 2 teams with a 4-2 record(one is the Bucs). Right now we’d be tied for the final playoff spot(don’t know if we’d win tiebreaker). 4-2 is still technically a better record than us right now because they have one less loss. This team has left a lot to be desired the past 2 weeks. There is one thing that worries me about our defense. Turnovers. Where are they? We’re getting our butts handed to us in the turnover ratio. So I’m putting out a challenge to our D this Sunday against the Steelers. 3 TOs, 1 returned within the Steelers 20 or for a TD. Offense is losing games for us now with our turnovers that the other team are returning for scores. Time for people to step up and start being heroes like last year. I’m starting to feel like we could be lucky to go 10-6 this season. Anyone think 9-7 could possibly be enough to make a wildcard spot?