Saints Suck, Still Succeed

Remember at the end of last year when we barely beat the Redskins, Rams, and Falcons? We lost the two at the end to Tampa Bay and Dallas (I don’t count the loss to Carolina since we rested our starters). Those games looked very similar to how we’ve played this year. It’s not very pretty, but a win is a win. Anybody really care how we beat the Redskins last year? Anybody really care how close the Rams game was last year? Nope, we won and at the end of the day, that’s what matters

I agree with you totally. Everyone was celebrating the win but I was disgusted and even worse scared about the future too.

All the talk about the loss snapping the offense back into shape and teams are bringing their best game to beat the superbowl champs is done. They played a sloppy game like they wished they were somewhere else. It’s not like Carolina came out swinging and tearing the Saints apart. What was clearly exposed were all things we don’t want to believe and made excuses for.

At least the improvement in D is more obvious than it would have been have been if offense was playing well. Sucks either way.

…and it just felt like home since Tigers tried to lose that game any way they could.

Don’t doubt it, Drew is hurt pretty badly.

I agree with SarahT, Its alright man! It does not matter how you get the win…(pretty, ugly, luck, blowout etc.) we are done with it and lets move on to the next one…now if we loose one then let the gripping begin!!! Arizona is next an we are on the road in another Dome. Harper and Thomas should be back for that one. How is Porter doing with his injury?

Stay the course it’s 17 weeks long…

WHO DAT!!!

That being, unlike last year, we play our at our worst at the beginning of the season and get it rolling at the end of the season.

Winning by a combined 10 points in our three victories isn’t exactly encouraging. Especially when those three wins came over teams that are a combined 1-10 for the season.

But, the good news is no one else in the NFC looks that good either.

just wait until you lose to a team like the Browns

That’s what we need to do next week and we have the weapons to do it

We wore gold pants today and won. Probably would’ve been a loss if we had the black pants

the Saints suck. I just didn’t want to be crucified lol

Style points matter to me, IMO. It intimidates the opposition after we kick a team’s butt by 21+ points.

our offense keeps struggling till we play Pittsburgh? It’d be great if we suddenly put 35+ points on a team that has a brilliant defense

I’m not questioning anybody’s fan credentials, but we’re 3-1 for the 9th time in 44 tries. Do people forget that we won a Super Bowl last year or that this franchise ain’t exactly the most storied? Maybe I’m barking up the wrong tree expecting Saints fans not to bitch when their team is ever 3-1 and a Sooner away from 4-0.

I didnt get to see the game i can only get online for a little bit each day
Did we have any bad injuries how did drew look did he look ok or gimpy
i kinda figured I missed another game where we played down to our opponents level(I hope thats it and this isn’t really us)

There were several small mistakes that prevented this from being a blowout. The 2 fumbles were big. That is going to have to be a focus in practices this week. That was at least 10 points left on the field right there. Throw in the blown coverage that was just a mental mistake on the part of the secondary, and this should have been a 19 point win. The talent is there, but the mistakes are there too. The good thing is that mistakes can be corrected. We have played with mistakes all season, but we are finding ways to win. Once the mistakes get corrected, we will see the potential of the talent out there.

field reporters being female, how does Tony Saragossa feel?? Hummmm……. I’m just sayin

we will suck until we quit coughing up the ball and FINISH DRIVES BETTER

who knows what our record will be or what kind of team we really have 4 games is such a small sample size.

it is but one fourth of the NFL regular season.

time will tell

let’s build on this and get better and get healthy

You can put his yardage in a sack because for two straight weeks he has fumbled in scoring position. The guy holds the ball away from his body and never covers it with both hands when making contact. He is a liability. I’m not impressed.
On the other hand, betts made tough yards and good pass blocks. He looked like a guy working hard to keep his job. most of all he protects the ball. Give the rock to betts and ship ivory back to the practice squad where he belongs

Henderson dropped a couple more but did catch enough. Drew , seems like, spread it around more. Even Mr. Dependable, Shockey ,dropped a couple. Just seemed like Brees is not getting that last piece of a second to set up and throw. I thought Betts and Ivory did a damn good job as a first outing. I really don’t like the way Ivory carries the ball. Do like that him and Betts make defenders pay the price to tackle them. How about Carney? LOL Bless his old ass. The one huge difference I see as far as D is they just don’t seem to be even trying to hit+strip. Just good with a tackle. Hell I don’t know. just getting it off my chest.

We are 3-1 and this isn’t the BCS. I guess you rather be 8-8 or 7-9 like we were before last season. We are winning… this is the NFL. Style Points don’t count. Ask the Colts how tough division games are… they lost to a struggling Jags team. 1 SB victory and now you are entitled to a 40 point blowout every time you head to the Dome. This is the NFL. Not the arena league….

Every season is different… after the Steelers won the Superbowl they proceeded to lose to 7 games and lost to CLE, KC, and OAK. If every season was a carbon copy of the previous season then they would be no reason to play the games. We have 1 SB season and now we are the Colts and expect to go 12-4 every year and win the NFC South…. We are 3-1 and have gutted out tough games… we are tied for the 2nd best record in the NFC and are tied with ATL… AND YALL ARE ON HERE CRYING ABOUT STYLE POINTS. Ill Take 3 point wins all the way to another SuperBowl….

What I was saying is that just because they had a rookie QB was not a reason to think this would be a cake walk…. LAst year they nearly beat us with one of the worse QB in the NFL… But you probably dont remember that. Or maybe you forgot last year we struggled and eeeked out a win against ST Loius… and there backup QB. How many games did they win last year. Did it stop usof from getting to the SB? No a win is a win….and in the NFL you can lose any given Sunday….

They only sucked__________________ ALOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Neither 1 look good at all. Cutler holding on to the ball way too long

then I may have to limit my participation for a while. At least you can admit being a spoiled ass turd. It’s becoming all too common in south Louisiana, so you are swimming in a sea of spoiled fans. Enjoy your “misery.”

I would tell you to “shut up and be happy with the WIN,” but you already know you should.

Listen up for a second:

1.The Saints have lost their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd RB for this game. The replacements still produced at a consistant level with the running game.

2. Jeremy Shockey is looking very good, which is not the norm this time of the year

3. Over half of our secondary is plagued with injury, and still pulled up the win.

4. Lance Moore’s Fumble was a fluke. (still unsure on that call anyways. He did have the ball in the endzone)

5. Tusk is a rookie: ROOKIES FUMBLE THE BALL!!

6. The penalties against the Saints were almost nonexistant.

7. Our new old kicker was perfect, and SP was very wise to take the FG instead of forcing the issue.

Okay the not so good!

1. The offensive line gave up 2 sacks, and drew had several passes knocked down.

2. Colston (apparently our 3rd down only WR is not putting the numbers he was last year)

3. Meachum is not putting up the numbers he was last year

 BY the numbers.

Vikings: defense ranked 3rd in defense for points/total yards 7th in passing yards and 9th against the run
49ers: defense ranked 25th in points 21th in total yards 20th in passing yards and 16th against the run
Birds: Defense ranked 6th in points 16th in total yards 18th in passing yards and 11th against the run
Pant: Defense ranked 22th in points 18th in total yards 16th in passing yards and 18th against the run

Need we forget we lost the Atlanta game by one FG.
The NFL has become extremly competitive
Every team who was affected by the final four rule is loosing several games EXCEPT the SAINTS.
Number-wise the Saints are tied for the 2nd seed in the NFC. (If the bears loose there will be 3 way tie for 1st)

Take a breather and relax.

Would we be having this conversation if Hartley made that kick?

anybody seeing the 9 sack game by the giants? Its pathetic on the part of the bears.

Giants are a bad team. Cutler having a very very bad night.

and yet it’s still 3-0

No one is dominating the NFC!

how about the big boys (giants). Helping the Saints out.

They look really bad on offense

I mean it is ugly. When’s the last time the bears had a real offense?

The Jim Mcmahon days?

The Saints won.

Why are you bitching again?

Miscues? Check.

Fumbles? Check.

Missed blocks? Check.

Win? Check.

As long as my favorite team is winning, I could care less /how/ they win. This team doesn’t need to have regular blowouts in order to please me.

Just win baby.

Go read SB the colts blog, chicken littles to the left of me, chicken littles to the right me.

We are winning battles but the war really concerns me. This isn’t like last year. I didnt feel like we got lucky but on 1 or 2 games. I feel like we got lucky today, against the 49ers, and lucky to even be close to the Falcons in our loss. Last year I didn’t feel lucky. I felt like we made our own luck and capitalized on it. This year we’re just lucky. And I love the question you asked. What does happen when we play a good team? The Falcons are good. Not great but good enough to be a low end playoff team and we lost to them. What’s that mean for the other playoff calliber teams and the SB calliber teams we play?

I really liked what I saw out of Ladell Betts, Sedrick Ellis and Usama Young yesterday. Someone mentioned Young playing SS earlier in the season and I admit, I was a bit skeptical of his potential there. I now believe he should be starting at that position. Ellis is currently on pace for a 12 sack season, which is excellent production for a DT. Betts showed why he’s a far superior RB to Chris Ivory, roughing tough, hanging on to the ball in traffic and visualizing his cutback lanes on the inside. Considering we already have a one trick pony for sweeps and misdirection, he should be retained in the Mike Bell rotational role until the RB position on the whole can be better addressed.

…but I remember you saying a while back, though I can quote you exactly, that as Saints fans we should be fully prepared for disappointment after having to deal with it for long. The Superbowl victory took what most of us were comfortable with: mediocrity. I’m not saying we were happy with mediocrity, but we were used to it. Now we can’t settle for anything less than perfection. Every close call win will be bittersweet from now on. I honestly believe the team could be suffering from some kind of performance anxiety. I know they get paid alot of money, but no one can deny the mental aspect of the game. The pressure to go out there and not play like the Saints from last 43 years must be enormous. Call me crazy, but I think what they ultimately need is to feel like they don’t need to repeat. They need to loosen up a little.

There is a major difference between hating winning, acting like the Saints are s**t and expecting perfection compared to appreciating the win but holding the team to higher expectations based on what we know they are capable of.

If your kid got straight A’s last year but is barely passing this year I seriously doubt you would say well that’s okay you just do your best even even though I know you are capable of more. When you care about someone you hold them to the level they are capable of reaching because it’s in their best interest and you care that much. If you don’t care about your kid living in mediocrity then cool, but for the rest of us we are seeing a team not living up to their best. That is nowhere near expecting perfection. That is saying okay let’s fix what’s going on here and get back to doing what I know you can do.

And as far as the excuses for how they have played…weather, wind, injuries, etc. It’s the NFL, there will ALWAYS be something holding every team back. You can’t rely on excuses for everything.

Couldn’t have said that better myself.

 Betts is better than I thought. Usama made good plays. Brees looked better going deep than feared he might. PT got another week to heal. If Sharper really only misses 6 games, 4 of them are done. Shockey is making big plays, Jerry Rice dropped one here and there. Lance Moore is back, everybody will fumble now and again. The important thing now is to get to 4-1, a two point victory if need be, and then take out Tampa Bay, and get some players back. Lighten up, folks, we are only a bit behind the Falcons and the season is long.

Before you all jump all over me, I too am frustrated by the way they are playing. Dropped passes and fumbles on the one yard line TICK me off. However, the D has not gotten the turnovers they did last year. The offense hasn’t had those extra possesions to score more points. The fact is, when we have had to score we have. If not for a KICKER,I HATE KICKERS!!!!, we would be 4-0.

It is my feeling Payton has a plan for this team. I think he is managing the fatigue factor the first half of the season. I have a feeling we will be peaking at the right time this year. Unlike last year when they ran out of juice in the latter part of the season. I think the Master has learned a leason and will have this team at its peak in weeks 10-16 and into the playoffs.

Frustrating as that may be for all of us. I have come to the realization that we don’t HAVE to blow people out, as long as we get the W. W’s count, not the amount of points we have scored in those W’s. In years past we would have lost at least two of these games.

However, A blow out would sure as h** feel good sittin on the couch Sunday morning!!!!

LOVE 3-1 playin like crap!!!!!

Someone sneak our recievers some stick-um!!!!!

….I say be happy you won, be unhappy with the way your team played to get there. You can’t ignore wins and you can’t ignore poor performance.