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Carolina Panthers 14 @ New Orleans Saints 16: Who Dat Say!?

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Three of the four talking heads in this picture did not suit up for today's game, but we won anyway.  Hallelujah!

It was another close-fought, hard-nosed game that came down to a FG, but this time we came out on top.  Hallelujah!

We are 3-1, which is better than 2-2.  It's also way better than 0-4 (did someone say steep decline?).  We rushed the ball a little better yesterday than we have all season, but we are still struggling to hang onto the ball at times. 

This is what the season is.  No one ever said it would be easy, or that we'd be the same team we were last year. Let's take it for what it is, build on it and keep getting better, and that the wins keep stacking up.

Make the jump to get on with your Week 4 post-Saints victory readings and viewings.

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jeffduncantp The #Saints have run 78 plays to Carolina's 36 & own a 38:20-17:45 advantage in time of possession.... Yet they lead just 14-13.
jeffduncantp That's it. Jabari Greer breaks up the last-second pass attempt & the Saints will survive,16-14. Sellout crowd goes home happy.
sharper42 Hey saints 16 panthers 14. Y'all know the tune....all we do is win win win win.!!!
dmcallister26 It wasn't pretty but a win is a win. That's what u play for. Sure some mistakes but it counts towards your goal. PLAYOFFS!!
T_Porter22 Thanx for the concern from all of out there...I am A OK...big win for us...HUGE! #whodat
T_Porter22 Haircut for today's gamehttp://twitpic.com/2ufpwp
JonVilma51 we all know it was definitely a close one...but when we're 15-1 no one will remember if it was close or not... a... http://fb.me/HmCiatEU
dmpressley Good win today!!! We have a great team!!!!
usama_young28 Great game today! The Who Dat nation was in full effect. So sore right now.... But it's the good sore. Ice cup time
usama_young28 Check out my boy d jones ballin for the jags... Oh baby, jus tricked off the interception!
Official_Saints Thx fans!: "(Superdome) & Penn State are definitely the 2 loudest places I've played. It gets real loud here," Panthers QB Jimmy Clausen
MalcolmJenkins Yet another hard fought game but a win is a win.... Let's keep it going ...who dat!!
jgoody76 What a kick by scobee


Post-Game Reports

Rapid Reaction: Saints 16, Panthers 14 - NFC South Blog - ESPN.com
Pat Y. - Initial thoughts immediately after the game.

Late-game mettle serves Saints well - NFC South Blog - ESPN
Pat Y -- The question was about one specific play and one specific drive in Sunday's game between the New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panters.

NFL Game Center: Carolina Panthers at New Orleans Saints | nfl.com
Carolina Panthers at New Orleans Saints NFL Game Center - stats, drive charts, recap, video highlights, and photos.

Carolina Panthers vs. New Orleans Saints - ESPN.com
NFL Football Recap: Final statistics, drive charts, and photos from the Carolina vs. New Orleans game played on October 03, 2010

New Orleans Saints beat the Carolina Panthers 16-14 at the Superdome | NOLA.com
Jeff Duncan's immediate thoughts and in-game updates.

GAME BLOG: New Orleans Saints vs Carolina Panthers | neworleans.com
Jude Young's in-game updates.

New Orleans Saints resemble familiar song with uneven effort again in win over Carolina Panthers | neworleans.com
B A-W's Sunday Evening Quarterback

Saints Edge Panthers 16-14 | WWL - AM870 | FM105.3
Brett Martel - AP Writer

Hobbled Saints survive against Carolina 16-14 | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Staff report - The New Orleans Saints overcame some huge turnovers and an inability to score touchdowns in the red zone to defeat the Panthers 16-14 and move to 3-1 on the year.

Carney strikes again for Saints | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Handwerger - John Carney walked out of the Saints’ locker room Sunday afternoon, no flashy jewelry on and no expensive suit hanging from his 5-foot-11 frame.

Saints’ Young steps in at safety, comes up big | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Handwerger - Usama Young arrived at the Superdome on Sunday expecting a handful of plays.

Betts, Ivory provide spark for Saints running attack | wwltv.com
Handwerger - No Pierre Thomas. No Reggie Bush. No problem.

Drew Brees put his name in the New Orleans Saints record book | NOLA.com
Kevin Spain - News and notes from Sunday's game.

Superlatives on the New Orleans Saints - NFC South Blog - ESPN
Pat Y. -- The Saints media relations staff just sent out a list of statistical superlatives following a 16-14 win over Carolina.

Saints-Panthers Postgame Notes | neworleanssaints.com
Staff report.

Saints Knock Off Panthers 16-14 | neworleanssaints.com

Staff report. 

New Orleans Saints play like weaker model than Super Bowl team despite win over Carolina Panthers | neworleans.com
Les East's FIRST TAKE on the game.

Photo Gallery | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Saints 16, Panthers 14 - in pictures. Few thousand words represented here.

New Orleans Saints defense keeps John Kasay off field on final drive | NOLA.com
Usama Young, Malcolm Jenkins stuff Carolina Panthers to end game

Carolina Panthers rookie QB Jimmy Clausen nets first pro TD pass | NOLA.com
He was 11-for-21 for 146 yards against New Orleans Saints

Ladell Betts, Chris Ivory carry load for New Orleans Saints | NOLA.com
Reserve running backs get job done vs. Carolina Panthers

New Orleans Saints use new kicker and new holder vs. Carolina Panthers | NOLA.com
News and notes from their 16-14 win Sunday

New Orleans Saints get thinner at safety position | NOLA.com
Pierson Prioleau, Chris Reis shaken up vs. Carolina Panthers

Betts, Ivory provide spark for Saints running attack | wwltv.com | WWL Sports
No Pierre Thomas. No Reggie Bush. No problem.

Saints’ Young steps in at safety, comes up big | wwltv.com | WWL Sports
Usama Young arrived at the Superdome on Sunday expecting a handful of plays.

 

 

From the Carolina Media

Panthers fall to the Saints to remain winless - NewsObserver.com
Scott Fowler and Darin Gantt - The Carolina Panthers came so close to the upset of the year, but a desperate fourth-down pass fell off the hands of Dwayne Jarrett, and the Saints held on for a 16-14 win.

Scott Says ...: 5 things I didn't like (and 3 I did) in Panthers' loss to Saints
Scott Fowler of the Charlotte Observer.

Inside the Panthers: Final: Saints 16, Panthers 14 | charlotteobserver.com
Darin Gantt

DeAngelo's cutback reappears, just not when it counts most - CharlotteObserver.com
Scott Fowler - The cutback was there. That's what people kept telling Carolina running back DeAngelo Williams on the sideline as the game against the New Orleans Saints unfolded, and he could see it was true.

Report Card - CharlotteObserver.com
Grades from the Panthers-Saints game on Oct. 3.


Post-Game Quotes

(from neworleanssaints.com)

NEW ORLEANS HEAD COACH SEAN PAYTON

(Opening Statement) "It was a hard fought win. First, we need to give credit to Carolina. Obviously, those guys played hard and these always go down to the fourth quarter. We made just enough plays to get the win and that is what is most important. We got a stop there at the end. I though Usama's (Young) play on the run play for minus yardage was significant and backed them out of field goal range. The drive at the end coming off the five yard line was significant. Although it wasn't always perfect, it was a good win."

(On being 3-1, but still not having breakout offensive performance) "We are just trying to win each week. If you look back on the back end of last season you will see a lot of hard fought games also. The first thing would be a couple of turnovers in the game and when you have those you are probably not going to have your best scoring output. One of the turnovers came at the one yard line, the other came at the fringe as we are getting into the red zone so those are things that can prevent you from scoring a lot more points in the game. Fortunately, it was the first time in awhile that we lost the turnover battle and still won the game."

(On decision to kick Carney) "He practiced well and he kicked well in his workout. We felt comfortable with the week he had, those are the main things."

(On if the plan was to run the ball heavily today) "We knew they do a good job defensively out of the seven, seven and a half man front and so we felt like we needed to establish a running game and I was pleased we were able to do that. It was one of our more consistent outings in that way and I thought that was important. I thought it helped us pertaining to our third down conversions. There were a few third and longs, but there were not many."

(On Ladell Betts and Chris Ivory) "They played hard. They are both relatively new to our program and they were a big part of the win."

(On switching to Chase Daniel as the holder) "We were just trying to look very closely at every aspect of the process. I think more than anything else we had enough time to get three good days in. Chase (Daniel) is someone that has been doing it and it was just a matter of saying ‘hey, let's free up Thomas (Morstead) a little bit here'. But it shouldn't be looked at as an indictment on Thomas (Morstead). His holds were good, I just wanted to shake it up and change it."

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS PLAYERS

QB #9 Drew Brees

(on knee) "I came out okay. It was much better than I thought. I was able to move around pretty well."

(on offense) "We definitely still have a killer instinct. We're just making stupid mistakes. We're getting that stuff corrected, slowly but surely. Obviously, you look at us, and I can speak for the offense, we haven't scored like we're used to scoring and we're 3-1 and a field goal away from being 4-0. That's a good thing. Every game we've played this year, it's come down to the fourth quarter and/or overtime.

"I look at today and today should have been a 30-point day. We scored 16 points. We had a chance to score a touchdown at the end; that's four more points. We had a fumble at the 1-yard line; that's seven points. We had a fumble going into the red zone; that's a minimum of another three points.

(on continuing to wear a knee brace) "I notice there's quite a few guys that do, on that plant leg. That's the leg that's exposed. It's a thought. Putting one on, it restricts you a little bit. I don't want to get timed in the 40-yard dash with it.

(on Saints defense) "I think that when they've had to come up with a play, they've come up with it. I'm sure they would sit here and tell you they played great, with the exception of two big plays. We want to make big plays; defensively, they want to take away big plays.

(on Ladell Betts) "He was the MVP of the offense today, in my opinion. He was only here for part of training camp. This is a pretty extensive offense. For him to be here in training camp just for a few weeks and not on the team until last week, and then to come here ... catch passes out of the backfield, do a good job in protection, he's tough, smart. Those are the kind of guys we like."

(on John Carney) "In 46 years, you make a lot of kicks. John Carney's one of the best. He's just a pro. That's all you can say. I've seen him do it many, many times. He's very focused, very regimented. You just watch his routine and there's no doubt, he's prepared for those situations all the time.

(on big plays) "We dialed up quite a few of them today; they just happened to defend them pretty well. The first half, we did a good job of marching (it) down. We were rolling; we were shooting ourselves in the foot with the turnovers and such."

(on 2:00 drill in first half) "We didn't have a lot of time. We had one time out we were going to try to save. They play so soft, you just try to take the completions. We just had a little bit of a protection breakdown (on the sack). If we complete that ball, we call time out and kick a field goal.

RB #46 Ladell Betts

(On his performance) "I just tried to play hard. My main focus was to know what I was doing on each play. I made a few mistakes here and there, but I just tried to play hard and help[ the team win."

(On having fun on the field) "It was fun. This is what I love to do. I've done this for a really long time. I enjoy playing. It was good to go out there and get a win."

S #27 Malcolm Jenkins

(On the sequence at the end of the game) "It was huge. Usama (Young) made the big play to get them out of field goal range by getting the sack. Jabari (Greer) made a great play to knock the ball down especially in the situation that we were in."

(On the run defense) "Every time we play Carolina we know that we are going to have to stop the run. They have great running backs. They do a good job rushing the ball. I think we did a nice job today stopping the run and making them pick it up in certain situations. It really showed during that last drive when we made the plays necessary to win the game."

CB #33 Jabari Greer

(On the third down defense) "That was something that we had to focus on. We needed to give our offense good field position. Fortunately, we were able to do that today. I think it became a difference maker in our game."

(On the sequence of events at the end of the game) "They converted that one third down to keep the chains moving. They actually had some momentum coming into field goal position. Usama (Young) was able to make a sack for a loss to get them out of field goal position and put the pressure on us as defense backs. We knew they were going to try to get to the sticks on fourth down and try to put themselves in field goal position. Fortunately for us a couple of guys made some big plays and we were able to get off the field."

RB #29 Chris Ivory

(On being a part of the offense) "I think I did a pretty good job today except for the fumble. I need to make corrections and get better in certain areas. I thought I played pretty good overall though."

(On picking up the offense in the second half) "We just executed what we practiced all week. Everybody has a job. We just went out and focused on the job at hand. We did that."

WR #16 Lance Moore

(On his performance the last couple of weeks) "I do what I always do. I continue to work hard every week in practice. I try to get work in with Drew (Brees) before and after practice. It's just a matter of time before your number is called. That's been my case recently. Hopefully, I'll keep stepping up and making plays."

(On if the game should have been this close) "I'd like to say no, but turnovers and kicking field goals instead of touchdowns doesn't help. Next time we need to make sure we get the ball in the end zone instead of kicking field goals as well as holding on to the ball." 

DT #98 Pee Wee Herman (aka Big Sed)

(On his performance) "I felt like I could get a pretty good pass rush on them up the middle. I watched a lot of film on the offensive line and I saw some things that I thought I could exploit earlier in the game. I think I did a pretty good job of taking advantage of those things. As the game goes on, they are going to change a few things if they are getting gassed."

K John Carney

"I'm glad to be a part of this team in any form or fashion. It was an exciting day for all of us"

(On how he kept in shape and his feeling in waiting for a call from a team) "I had a lot of faith and a lot of hope. I have a pretty good routine out in San Diego. Steve Weatherford, who was with us here and punts for the Jets, we trained together in the offseason. He comes out early in the offseason and right before training camp, as well a group of guys from college and guys I get together with from time to time. You have to have faith you may get a call and may get an opportunity."

(on the scenario of joining the team this week and getting the game-winning field goal) "You try not to imagine too much. You try to be prepared. Jason Kyle's one of the best in the league. We put Chase Daniel in there and he did a very good job today in his first time holding in the NFL. I had a good opportunity to kick with Garrett (Hartley) this week. He's hitting the ball well and we're happy to come away with a win. Carolina's a good team. They always play us well.

(on if he was worried he might not get picked up) "You keep your fingers crossed. You keep your eyes on what is going on around the league. There are a couple teams I had my eye on that I had a thought there might something in personnel. Those teams haven't called anybody yet. There's always the possibility of an injury as well where a team has an immediate need. You have to stay sharp."

(on how challenging it was to come in and kick today in his first week with the team) "It would have been tougher if it wasn't with this team. I know the personnel very well. I worked with everybody that I worked with today last year, coaches and players. In that respect it was very comfortable. Going to a new team dead cold and not knowing anybody is quite an adjustment. So your first two guys that you want to know real well are the snapper and the holder."  

CAROLINA PANTHERS HEAD COACH JOHN FOX

(On the defense trying to not allow a big offensive play by the Saints) "That was part of the design. We've played them quite a few times over the last eight years. They're a very, very talented group. They've been the number one offense in the league, I think, for the last three seasons. They're very explosive. That was the game plan (to not allow a deep pass)."

(On trying to get into field goal range) "Unfortunately, we went backwards. That wasn't by design. In one case, it was a player trying to make a play. In the other case, it was good pressure (by the defense)."

(On where he thought the team needed to reach for John Kasay to attempt a field goal) "John Kasay is a guy that has been very, very dependable over his time. Typically, it's the 35 yard line (that is where we try to reach). It's not automatic, but that gives you a feasible chance. That's still a 50-something yard field goal. Where we ended up, there weren't a whole lot of options on fourth and fourteen."

(On the overall play of Jimmy Clausen) "I think he's going to be a good player. He's young. He's learning. This (the Superdome) isn't a real admirable place to be in your second start, but I thought he fought real well. It was a great play that he made scrambling and throwing down on their sideline to give us a chance to kick a long field goal."

(On the solid play of the Carolina defense today) "Our defense has given us a chance in three out of these four games. Unfortunately, they don't get to reap the benefits of that ... just like today. We just came up a little short. I thought our effort was outstanding."

(On if today is the best the team has played all year) "Yeah, I thought our effort was outstanding."

(On what happened to Steve Smith) "I'm not sure. It was across the field from me. I couldn't really see what happened. It looked like, maybe, his ankle got rolled. To be honest, I'm just guessing. They said it was an ankle (injury). So, I'm assuming that's what happened. I didn't see the end of the play."

(On the difficulty of communicating to Jimmy Clausen after his headset went out) "I thought Matt Moore did an outstanding job of signaling it out there. I thought there was good communication considering that. The hard part is not so much getting the call (in), but it's communicating to everyone else."

CAROLINA PANTHERS PLAYERS

QB #2 JIMMY CLAUSEN

(on final drive) "Yeah, it was real loud out there. We were driving down trying to get in a position to kick a field goal and win it, but we just came up short.  It's a real tough loss."

"I thought our offense did a good job. We moved the ball down the field. Today we were going up against the world champs and their great defense. It's just hard for us to get that close and have it end the way it did."

(on final sack): "I was just trying to make a play. They were blitzing and I just couldn't get it out quick enough. I can't take a sack in that situation."

"Early on in the game we were having some problems with the earpiece. It really wasn't working and we tried to get the signals in with our hands. We tried to call the plays at the beginning as best as we could. This place and Penn State are definitely the two loudest places I've played. It gets real loud here and with the dome, it kind of keeps the sound inside and makes it even louder."

WR #89 STEVE SMITH

"I mean we scored more than seven points today, so that's an improvement from the other games. I think as a team we are making progress."

"We always play them tough and each game is a nail biter. But I think we are playing better as a team; Jimmy, the entire team. I wasn't out there at the end so I don't know what happened so I can't really tell you what happened at the end of the game because I was watching it on TV."

(on his leg injury) "It hurts. I'm just going to try to walk to the plane without too much pain and see how it feels in the morning."

T #69 JORDAN GROSS

"This place (Superdome) has to be the loudest place I've ever played in. It was really tough to get the plays into the huddle. For Clausen to make that fourth down play late in the game, that speaks volumes for what I think is inside of him. That's as clutch as it gets. You can take a lot of positives from this game. I think it's the best game we played this season. If we had played as well in the other three games so far this season we probably would have had a few wins under our belts."

DT #99 ED JOHNSON

"This was the kind of game we expected from ourselves. It was a hard fought, down to the wire game. And the game was on the line in the fourth quarter. We look at is as if the Saints don't score in the fourth quarter then we win the game, bottom line. Even though I'm new here, a lot of my teammates told me coming in that we always play them tough and we did today. It's a divisional game and I think all of the future games against them will be real close."

 

Audio Action

Watch this at WWL - The Point After Show (Hour 2)

Watch this at WWL - Bobby Hebert

Watch this at WWL - Drew Brees

Watch this at WWL - Sedrick Ellis

Watch this at WWL - The Point After Show (Hour 1)

Watch this at WWL - Mike Stanfield, Director of Ticket Sales

Watch this at WWL - Hokie Gajan

Watch this at WWL - Ladell Betts

Watch this at WWL - Usama Young

Watch this at WWL - Sean Payton

 


V-Roll Roll Call

NFL Videos: Moore 4-yard TD
Saints WR Lance Moore scores on a 4-yard catch against Carolina.

NFL Videos: Roby fumble recovery
Saints WR Courtney Roby recovers a fumble off of a Carolina punt return.

NFL Videos: Saints defense, 4th down failed
(:08) (Shotgun) J.Clausen pass incomplete deep right to D.Jarrett (J.Greer).

NFL Videos: Carney game-winning FG
46-year old Saints kicker John Carney knocks down a 25-yard field goal to edge the Carolina Panthers 16-14.

NFL Videos: GameDay: Panthers vs. Saints highlights
Drew Brees and the Saints escape in a nail-biter vs. the Panthers 16-14. Watch NFL GameDay Final Sundays at midnight ET on NFL Network.

Postgame Vlog: Saints hold off Panthers | neworleans.com
Brian Allee-Walsh and Les East recap the game and give the latest news from the Louisiana Superdome:

Saints 'Who Dat' chant: Jason Kyle

Ladell Betts on his game against Carolina

Saints defensive end Will Smith talks about defensing Carolina

Saints offense continues to struggle in 16-14 win over Panthers

Sean Payton on the win against Carolina
New Orleans Saints offense continues to struggle in 16-14 win over Carolina Panthers
NOLA.com goes tailgating with the Who Dat Nation: What's cooking?

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How do you feel about Sunday's win over the Panthers?
A win's a win baby, it's all good. We're the Super Bowl Champs, baby!! Two Dat!!
60 votes
We're good but we have to play better. We were lucky to win. If we played a better team, we would have lost.
172 votes
Ugh. We are very close to being 0-4. This is not a good team right now.
36 votes
Other. Please explain in the comment section below.
2 votes

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The thing I like about this team

Is the potential. They (especially the offense) can play so much better and I trust they will, as they get to the stretch. It’s all about peaking at the right time and there is no sense playing your best football in Sept and Oct. Just think what a boost it will be if (when) Sharper comes back (and Ingram plays) and the defense happens to crank it up a notch. and then Reggie returns and the offense starts hitting on all cylinders. I feel certain it will happen.

And when we get to the playoffs, there will be a great composure and focus, in light of what we accomplished and are capable from last year.

"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

by Philinwood on Oct 4, 2010 6:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

They played with two offensive starters in street clothes and Brees wearing a knee brace; two sure defensive starters out of uniform, Ingram who is expected to be a starter when healthy is still PUP, and two more injured during the course of the game.

The Panters, despite their present record, ALWAYS play the Saints tough, and did yesterday.

No it wasn’t pretty. Yes, I was yelling at the TV (and scaring the crap out of my poor wife ;-) ) for pretty much the whole game.

Bottom line: they WON

This ain’t the BCS, it’s the NFL. No points are awarded for “style” here, the only thing that matters is the W-L record at the end of the season. If you have the best one in your division, you keep playing. If you have the first or second best record out of all of the other teams that didn’t win their division, you keep playing. It’s THAT simple. Right now, no one in the NFC has more wins than the Saints, while a (good) number of teams have the same number of wins. That means we’re not out of anything yet, and the team has the potential to improve, greatly, in the coming weeks.

I’d much rather see us where we are NOW than in January. In January, I expect to see the team we are used to watching. In February, I expect to see that team as well.

Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!

by GSO Saints Fan on Oct 4, 2010 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought we sucked last year plenty of times, and then we got lucky in the end...

Other than hartless missing that easy field goal, we are pretty much on track. I’d like to see something more out of the offense—namely our receivers actually catching the ball. And Brees seems to be a bit off to me. This season he’s made some stupid mistakes with shovel interception and several third down desperation throws into double coverage.

The O-line looked pretty good versus Carolina. I think this was the first time we didn’t get a superb game from the other team. We should have scored a lot more had it not been for our turnovers. But we pulled out a win.

Now it’s time to correct the mistakes and get some people healthy. I’m thrilled with the play of the backups so far though.

by xen-cuts on Oct 4, 2010 7:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Betts sounds like a winner

I like the way that guy talked about the game. He played okay, too.

Worried about every defensive back. It would be pretty awesome if 90% of our d-backs wouldn’t get injured every single week.

by xen-cuts on Oct 4, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

we seem to get injuries at the worst time

it really sucks when harper is out only to see his replacement get knocked out cold. same goes for last week when porter and harper were sitting on the sideline, and gay wasnt available due to his concussion the week before. and on offense we seem to almost only have injuries at rb… nuff said. i still think that this team can cut down on one or two mistakes and score 30 pts on anyone.

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Oct 4, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

16-14

Carolina 14
New Orleans 16

San Francisco 14
Atlanta 16

And both against 0-4 teams…..
Just trying to figure out the cosmic significance of this….

by '09 on Oct 4, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Here is the cosmos answer...

Any given Sunday……

Week 4 matchup: Panthers
Week 4 motto: Black pants, burned they must be.

by Jon Banks on Oct 4, 2010 12:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

There isn’t one. In our case, if we’d made two less mistakes we’d have blown out Carolina and we’d all be in pandemonium mode about how much happier we were. In Atlanta’s case, if they’d made one more mistake (or San Fran made two less) they’d have gotten upset and we’d be even happier. But San Fran lost that game. They had the victory literally in their hands and coughed it up. We won ours by taking it and then defending against the enemy’s last gasp, and that helps ease the pain of last week.

by FriarBob on Oct 4, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

About the last pass play...

The panthers had no time outs left, right? Wouldn’t it have been better if Greer allowed him to catch the pass, then wrap him up? That way, you don’t risk the pass interference penalty and the clock runs out anyway? Supposed he got flagged for interference… wouldn’t that have set the Panthers up for the field goal?

Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~Heywood Hale Brown

by jack_casse on Oct 4, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

But he didn't. What if he makes the catch and falls out of bounds or runs into the endzone.

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Oct 4, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Base on where the ball was thrown....

I’m not convinced he would have made it out of bounds before time expired. Get in prevent defense, let the guy catch it, and then bring him down. I think that’s less risky than trying to prevent the completed pass.

Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~Heywood Hale Brown

by jack_casse on Oct 4, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could have also executed a hook and lateral. See Duriel Harris to Tony Nathan, circa 1981.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Oct 4, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Stu!

 Pat Y. Rapid Reaction link:

From theDespite playing better than they have all season, it’s over for the Panthers. They’re 0-4 and John Fox is a lame-duck coach. Injuries to receiver Steve Smith and defensive tackle Ed Johnson looked significant enough that Carolina could face a couple of games without those two players. The effort was there Sunday, but that’s tough to continue when you’re in a downhill spiral.

AKA, steep decline?

"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis

by BRSaintsFan on Oct 4, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah

Even Pat Y’s on board. My work here is done.

"Magazines like Mojo and Classic Rock, with their emphasis on classicism and authenticity, are like museums of rock music." - Andy Miller

by stujo4 on Oct 4, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hang around

Just sit back, chill, knock down a few IPAs. Take in the view. Every once in awhile, you’ll still have to step in to bring the rod of correction to those who refused to buy in. You know I always supported you, right?

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Oct 4, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

India Pale Ale?

"Magazines like Mojo and Classic Rock, with their emphasis on classicism and authenticity, are like museums of rock music." - Andy Miller

by stujo4 on Oct 4, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

good stuff

goes great with burgers

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Oct 4, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

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