New Orleans Saints' Offensive Player Grades vs. Steelers
When grading my team, there's always the challenge of trying to be unbiased and fair in my criticism. There's no doubt that I'm a fan first and a blogger second. As a fan I always try to remain positive. As a blogger, I feel an obligation to call things as I see them. The harsh reality is that while the Saints won a huge game and played incredible football defensively, the offense is still struggling. Call me names if you want, but Brees still is not taking care of the football. He had 2 turnovers, and that's not going to cut it. That interception was a really bad decision on his part. I hate to rain on the parade, and trust me there's plenty of praise to come after a win like this, but they have to do a better job of taking care of the football. The offensive line also needs to play better. They got completely whooped in this game. Still, a win is a win and few a better than this one! I digress, on to the grades!
Drew Brees: B- (2.58) Make no mistake, his two touchdown passes were beautiful. That back shoulder throw to Colston was put in the most perfect location possible, and the Lance touchdown was equally amazing. Brees got on a roll in the second half and really started dissecting the Steelers. This despite having pressure in his face for the entirety of the night. He was sacked twice and hit/knocked down seven times. Seven! That's got to be the most times Brees has been hit in a game. He got hit really hard a couple of times, too. For such a little guy you have to credit his physical preparation for taking a beating like that. Not many guys come out of a game like that still "healthy" by football standards. He finished 34 of 44 for 305 yards, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception and a lost fumble. The pick was ugly, and the fumble happened because he didn't get rid of the ball quickly enough. To Brees' credit, he played best with the game on the line when it mattered.Chris Ivory: D+ (2.22) 7 carries for 7 yards. Horrible. I'm not sure if he's injured or what, but he was useless in this game. I did boost his grade a little bit because of a nice 4th down and inches conversion.
Julius Jones: C- (2.17) As the game progressed he became the feature back. He had a couple of nice plays in the passing game, finishing with 3 catches for 20 yards (that despite getting hit for a big loss on one screen play) and breaking a Troy Polamalu tackle attempt pretty impressively. Rushing he finished with 16 yards on 7 carries. He did have a nice 11 yard scamper showing some speed and toughness. Those numbers could have been a little better if he didn't get hit for one big loss in particular which was more bad blocking than anything else. He hurt his grade, though, with an idiotic unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for grabbing Troy Polamalu after the play was over. That penalty took the Saints out of field goal range.
Ladell Betts: D (2.07) He had 1 catch for no yards and 3 carries for 8 yards. Again, horrible. My main gripes with him were a blown blitz assignment pickup and a dropped pass. The dropped pass was just before halftime and actually helped the team because if he catches that, he probably gets tackled in bounds and the clock runs out before the Saints get a chance to kick a field goal before halftime. Thanks to that drop the half ended 3-3 instead of 3-0 Steelers. Still, you don't get props for dropping a pass. On the blitz play, he covered weakside where no one was coming, and left three blitzers on the right side to waltz in on Brees. That was the same play that Brees fumbled.
Heath Evans: C- (2.63) Is it just me or is he not even the primary blocker anymore? The number of snaps he's been getting on offense seem to be dwindling. Maybe the Saints knew they'd pass a lot in this one, hence less playing time for Heath. Still, the fact that the Saints trusted Dave Thomas as the lead blocker a few times says something. When the Saints were at the goal line, he seemed slow to the hole and unable to spring a running lane. Evans also dropped a pass, but did covert a big third down play with a 2 yard reception inside the 5.
Jeremy Shockey: B- (2.67) Shockey finished with 3 catches for 30 yards, but did have a shot at another pass down the seam inside the five that he couldn't come up with. He was involved in the offense, though, and showed good hands and toughness. He converted a big third down with Troy Polamalu who was matched up against him in bump coverage. Shockey showed his strength, manhandling Polamalu at the line of scrimmage to get massive separation. That was big time.
David Thomas: C (2.54) Does this guy ever break a tackle? The first guy that hits him seems to always take him down. When you're a tight end often times getting tackled by a safety or corner, that's kind of sad. I mentioned that he was picked over Evans a lot of times to lead block, though he didn't fare better. He finished with 4 catches for 15 yards.
Marques Colston: B (2.92) The two drops early were very bad. The first killed the Saints' opening drive on a crucial 3rd down play. The other wiped out what would have been a solid 9 yard gain on first down. After that, though, he was on point all night. He made tough catches over the middle and helped the Saints effectively use their possession passing offense to move down the field on the tough Steelers' D. He finished with 6 catches for 75 yards and a touchdown. He showed terrific poise and awareness finding the goal line on his score. The stats will also show that Colston had a 1 yard run. That was a pass play where he was supposed to take a reverse and throw the ball downfield to Meachem. The Steelers were not fooled at all, so give Colston credit for not making a bad decision and just accepting that the play was going nowhere. I've seen non quarterbacks throw a duck like that into double coverage before just trusting the play because of their inexperience throwing the ball. Colston was heady there to avoid that.
Lance Moore: A- (2.54) He was targeted 8 times and gave Brees 7 receptions for 57 yards. Even more so than Colston he was the safe underneath route. On the game clinching touchdown drive he made two fantastic plays. First he converted a 3rd and 8 with a 10 yard reception where he ran after the catch and squirted through tacklers showing terrific effort to move the chains. Then, he made a circus catch with a defender draped all over him for a touchdown. He even helped out on special teams with a 17 yard punt return. Lance Moore is having himself one heck of a season.
Devery Henderson: B- (2.29) He finished with 3 catches for 33 yards and made the most of the opportunities he was given. Brees just isn't looking his way that much.
Robert Meachem: B (2.43) Nice showing from Meachem, who's biggest play was a wide open 50 yard bomb he caught from Brees. He finished with 6 catches on 6 targets for 76 yards. The Saints tried to run a quick pass at the line of scrimmage to him three times, so obviously that was part of the gameplan as a way to attack the Steelers. That play had no success whatsoever. All three times the Saints ran that at Meachem he was unable to break Ike Taylor's tackle. Still, it's definitely nice to see him more involved in the Saints' offense.
Jermon Bushrod: D (2.46) Oh man, did he have a hard time with James Harrison. Bushrod struggled mightily to contain him. Harrison finished with just one sack, but he was pressuring Brees all night long. The official stats show that Harrison had 3 knock downs, but man, it felt like 10. The pressure he got on the edge was non stop and quick. Luckily one of those plays was called as a roughing the passer penalty that gave the Saints 15 yards. Bushrod just didn't have the lateral quickness to stay with Harrison, and even when he did he showed mediocre strength. When Bushrod would get his hands on Harrison it didn't do much. Obviously when your team rushes for 30 yards and 1.4 yard per carry average, no one run blocked well.
Carl Nicks: C- (2.63) The Saints ran behind him, mostly, and it didn't go so well at all. His pass blocking was fine, but he just wasn't getting the interior push he's so known for. Casey Hampton is a premiere run stopper and a huge frame, and he was dominating the line of scrimmage consistently.
Jonathan Goodwin: D+ (2.67) This was one of the worst games I've seen Goodwin play. The amount of edge pressure that Brees saw was rough, but the times he stepped up on the pocket Goodwin struggled with his assignments at times too. His run blocking, I thought, was the worst of any of the lineman. Twice defenders shot the gap to hit a Saints' running back for a big loss because Goodwin missed a block. He also missed a couple of blitz pickups, which led to Brees getting rocked. Still, he wasn't getting consistently abused like Bushrod. His blocking on the goal line runs was terrible, and he couldn't keep his man engaged at all.
Jahri Evans: C+ (2.63) He was the best lineman on the day for the Saints, but that's really not saying much. On the fumble by Brees, I believe that sack was more on Brees, for not releasing the ball quickly enough, and Betts for helping the other side, rather than Evans. Evans blocked his man, so he couldn't rotate over to pick up a blitzing Bryant McFadden (even though that blitz came to his gap). His run blocking and pass blocking was by no means superb, but he didn't make glaring mistakes. I also want to congratulate him for going an entire game without a penalty. That is quite impressive, I know that must have taken a lot for him to pull that off. The few decent runs the Saints had (11 yarder by Jones, 6 yarder by Ivory) were behind him.
Jon Stinchcomb: D+ (2.29) Runs that went to his edge went absolutely nowhere. He had a holding penalty that was unnecessary. Like Bushrod, he was giving up pressure all day long from the edge. He struggled to keep Brees clean of hits and pressure for the majority of the evening. He had no push whatsoever in this game. The Steelers just have some big, fast and physical players on their defense. It was a handful, to say the least, for the big guys up front to handle.
Zach Strief: C- (2.22) The pass by Brees to him was a farce. The ball was high, no doubt, but instead of jumping for the ball, Strief kind of backpedaled and tripped over himself. Too bad because was wide open. I guess that's why the Saints don't throw to him. That definitely looked awkward and should never happen again. Blocking wise, Strief was ok, giving the Saints a little muscle and size off the edge. Frankly, I thought he should have played much more and the Saints should have made a truer effort to get some yards on the ground.
My Offensive Player of the Game: Lance Moore
ps Don't worry, the defense/special teams grades will be MUCH better.
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Some bits I noticed in addition to your evaluations...
Strife (I misspelled it on purpose) stumbled coming off his block on that tackle eligible pass in the red zone, and had to pick himself up off the ground before turning to try and catch that pass. I think if he makes a clean release from the block, he’s further in to the end zone when that pass arrives, and he doesn’t even have to jump for it. Poor, slow, lumbering, stumble-footed Zach. It’ll be another four years before they throw to him again…
Stinch blew it on a screen pass (to Betts, maybe), too once in the game. On the replay it shows him letting up on the block he’s engaged in as the ball is thrown, conceivably to move down field and block to clear a running lane, but the man he released just took a half step and then engulfed Betts just as he caught the ball for a loss on the play, as Stinch stood there watching. OUCH.
Here’s something to consider…with the merry go round of new running backs in our backfield, the OL and backs are not “in synch” as far as being aware of where each other is/are in space and where they will go as the play progresses, which causes obvious problems. How do you help this…? More screen reps in practice to develop good muscle memory and to get a feel for where/how each other moves…? I dunno.
It's gonna be a great year.
ps - nice work
I would not be able to assess each individual player like this…I appreciate your efforts in this area.
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 1, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
was Jones on the screen pass, and he was blocking Woodley and I thought the exact same thing at the time.
by theprogrammerman on Nov 1, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Strief didn't fall down
He actually played it perfectly. He acted like he was blocking then turned around and was wide open. Brees also made a great fake and hid the ball perfectly. Only thing they needed was a good pass.
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
strief tripped on the block
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 1, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
he may have tripped
but i never saw him on the ground. that happened in the corner of the end zone where i sit. No on the other, i had been in NO since 8 am and drinking since 8:07 – it took us 7 mins to set up our supplies. U guys are prob right
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You’re right, he was never on the ground, he just stumbled and couldn’t get his footing in time to get in position to receive the pass.
either way
it was a good call, too bad it didn’t work
by touchdown my pants on Nov 2, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It will be interesting to see if thing dramatically improve
When Reggie and PT are back. If not we know it’s not an issue with the replacement of RBs.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
by SarahT on Nov 1, 2010 9:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought that interception wasn't a bad decision on Brees' part...
Just a bad pass. The ball looked under thrown to me. I forget who he was throwing to, but it looked like he had the defenders beat by a couple of steps. If Brees would have thrown it a little harder and hit him in stride, I think it’s any easy catch.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
My thoughts exactly
Great decision. Terrible pass. Meachem was three steps ahead of the closest defender on a 3rd and 14 play. If Brees would have led him it would have been an 80 yard score.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 1, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Not even a terrible pass
from what I remember, if he was only single covered, Meachem might still have caught that…but it was underthrown
"I'm in the Courtroom screaming Who Dat on the double, serving gumbo with a shovel, dog i'm on another level" -Jay Electonica
lovin' Lance Moore, just not on punt returns
I was bummed at the time when he signaled fair catch when there was clearly room to pick up a little bit. But, oh, the redemption of that touchdown, holding onto the ball in the middle of that collision! Priceless.
I liked his return after getting lit up
Can you imagine taking that hit and then having to go right back there and do it again due to a penalty? Give the man props for not fair catching it.the second time around. That took guts. He fielded it and had a nice return. Definitely sent a message to the steelers about our toughness.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 1, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m the exact opposite. I’d rather see a fair catch every time out, than a season ending injury at the expense of 7 to 8 yards in field position. When considering risk versus reward, punt returns have to be the most overrated play in all of football.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Especially where Reggie Bush is concerned.
My ulcer flares up every time he fields a punt.
Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.
by alcoholic_insight on Nov 1, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, why stop there CP?
Why not have no one back to field it at all?
Won’t risk a muff. Might even bounce forward or in the endzone for a touchback.
Send an extra man to block the kick.
I get where you are coming from. There are a disproportionate amount of injuries on returns of kicks and punts.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 1, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If the rule was possession at the spot the ball hits the field, I’d have no problem with that. Unfielded punts can roll quite a distance, though. See Randall Cunningham’s 91 yard boot against the Giants or practically any of Sammy Baugh’s efforts in the 1940s.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
that and even without roll, if there was no one back, the punter wouldn’t have to worry about outkicking coverage, and most of these punters can probably hit 60 or 65 yards if they just line drived the punt.
by theprogrammerman on Nov 2, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
that punt
was in the air for a long time. the returner doesn’t have time to look down at the gunners. He has to have a clock in his head and make a fair catch based on hangtime. That was the right move considering if something goes wrong then they have good field position
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, this falls under special teams I guess
but did anyone not go “OH S***” when they saw the shift for the fake FG attempt?
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
I was praying they wouldn’t snap it. Not sure if they would have or not, had Pittsburgh not called time out. Btw, I thought Hartley couldn’t make FGs from inside of 30 yards. What’s going on with that watertight observation of yours, Breesus?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I think it was a ploy to force a timeout. If you noticed, after the switch, they sat in formation for several seconds and didn’t snap the ball….whole point of that is to catch them off guard right? So why sit there and wait for them to adjust? You’d think they’d snap the ball as soon as they were set.
why???
there was 13 seconds left. making them use their final TO was pointless. I actually think they were going to go for it.
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Because it puts it in their head for the rest of the game. It was only halftime. After that, any time we would line up for a field goal, Pitt would have to be thinking about a fake and react accordingly. Everyone knows Hartley doesn’t get much lift on his kicks. If you can take some of the push away from Pitt’s block team all the better.
no way
that makes no sense. That’s a play that you run once or twice a year, not 2 times in the same game. IMO that was not called in order to make them burn a TO.
Guess we’ll never know
I wonder if Daniels woulda thrown it to Hartley and he jukes his defender and dives for the pileon. That’s what woulda happened if he snapped it.
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
plus
we kicked the FG which took 3-4 seconds off then after the KO there was 1 second left. That TO meant nothing to the steelers.
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't an open ended proclamation
I would assume he has been working on it. Never said he couldn’t improve. Never said he should be cut (which I believe was your solution). At the time I said it, he hadn’t been able to do it even half of the time and clearly couldn’t be counted on to do it at that moment. I’m glad he’s coming around.
If you are going to start your own accountability index, get it right.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 1, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I was excited to see it!
After the half Brees had, it seemed like the only reasonable way to give Daniel a shot at getting us a touchdown without upsetting Brees’ delicate genius. He had Thomas lined up wide, I thought he had a great shot at it, and I would have liked to see them try it.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
by FuSoYa on Nov 1, 2010 6:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Grades seem a little harsh considering it was agains the number 1 D in all of football.
by jeff.l.b on Nov 1, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
What about the rest of the season?
That much pressure on Brees cannot happen, I don’t care who they play, it’s unacceptable. I was glad some form of cadence was established in the 2nd half.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
by SarahT on Nov 1, 2010 10:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for the reviews.
My power was out last night and I never got to see the game. This will help fill in some of the blanks.
Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.
by alcoholic_insight on Nov 1, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions
Running backs
Ivory got nicked…
In general, although the grades are about right “blame” Payton for not calling their numbers… and rightly so….
Anyone wants to join me on the empty bandwagon....
i like the grades
thought they were pretty good. Wouldn’t the blitz where Betts blocked the wrong way be just as much on Brees as it is Betts? I thought that Brees and Goodwin were suppose to find out where blitzes are coming from and point it out for the back. Just wondering exactly how that normally works
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
I thought Ivory got hosed a bit.
O-line sucked, every time he got the ball he had .02 seconds to do something with it. There may have been 1 or 2 plays I didn’t see that was his fault, but most of the night was the O-line.
Week 8 matchup: Steelers
Week 8 motto: Stop making me post facepalm pictures!!!
OL grades seem harsh to me
They’re still not playing up to 2009 form, but I think they did decent against that pass rush. When you play the Steelers, your QB is going to get hit and I don’t think Brees got lit up an unusual amount of times against them. They were totally handled on run blocking, but Pittsburgh has been doing that to most teams. We went largely without the drive crippling penalties that we’ve come to expect over the last few weeks. Stinchcomb is still a liability as far as I’m concerned (although I think he got hosed on that holding call towards the end of the first half).
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Way too harsh on Ivory
He was at or behind the line of scrimmage by multiple Steelers on nearly every run. That is clearly on the offensive line. There is also the problem of two of the handoffs being so horribly telegraphed that the plays never had a chance from the start. Part of that is to set up a play action later on, but lining up your RB 8 yards behind the LoS on that kind of play is just asking for failure.
On the flip side, Ivory converted the 4th and 1 with a 6 yard run even though he was initially hit right at the LoS by Polamalu.
Another thing
On that play when JuJo got the GAAAAA! unsportsmanlike conduct….did anyone else think Polamalu hit him late – after the ball clanged to the ground and the whistles blew? Or maybe I’m just a homer looking through my homer-colored glasses (black like their pants).
It's gonna be a great year.
from what i saw at the game
jones and polamalu were helmet to helmet just talkin sh*t. when the other steelers player came up then that’s when Jones swiped his arm away and got the penalty. Why does Jones get the penalty when it would have never happend if ya boy didn’t get involved??? i don’t get it.
by touchdown my pants on Nov 1, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the interception was a guess by the corner..
who dropped meach to double cover colston deep.. obvious film study.. going with a tendency.. drew.. got them back with the 50 yarder.. when he peeked inside.. meach got behind him WO..
your opening statement about 2 turnovers “ain’t gonna cut it”, is slightly ridiculous, considering his credencials..

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