Fleur-de-Links - Nov. 17th: Reggie Likely Ready
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 17, 2010 4:30 PM CST
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PrintReggie Bush seems optimistic about returning to the field this week and facing his former USC coach, Pete Carroll. His return will be a welcomed sight. Pierre Thomas is looking much closer to returning than he did before the bye week as the crutches and walking boot are reportedly gone. He suited up today, but did not take part in team drills. Coach Payton says,
"He’s making progress. With him, I really just want to go day-to-day here this week and just see how he continues to move."
Wouldn't be surprised if he is held out for the Seahawks this week. Why rush him back now when Bush and Ivory look probable to play? Plus, Julius Jones will be extra motivated to perform well against the team that cut him loose not too long ago. JuJo will have revenge on his mind this week. Even though it would greatly help one of my fantasy teams if Thomas played this week, I'd rather see him get more time to fully heal and then suit up in Dallas on Turkey Day.
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jeffduncantp Sunday vs. Seattle. RT @kdyess27: when is Ivory likely to return to action?
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jeffduncantp #Saints injury report: J.Shockey (rib), P.Thomas (ankle), P.Robinson (ankle), D.Sharper (ham), officially did not practice on Wed
Official_Saints Coach also said RB Thomas, DBs Robinson & Sharper, TE Shockey did not practice today.
jeffduncantp RT @miketripletttp: Saints' injury report: Reggie Bush limited, but still likely to play. ... Same w/Chris Ivory, M.Jenkins & J.Stinchcomb
jeffduncantp RT @wwltvsports: Payton on PT: "He’s making progress. With him I really want to go day 2 day here this week & see how he continues to move."
jeffduncantp Payton said Reggie Bush's return as a punt returner this week is "a good possibility."
jeffduncantp 3:15 p.m. RT @jazminheartsu: @Official_Saints @jeffduncantp @miketripletttp what time is the Saints vs Cowboys game on TDay?3
Official_Saints @drewbrees holds his weekly press conference http://yfrog.com/fv82ij
jeffduncantp Brees on a potential contract extension : "It's not on my radar right now."
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Official_Saints @reggie_bush meets the media. Says he won't know if he will play Sun. till end of week. http://yfrog.com/go33kfj
Official_Saints Texas native Remi Ayodel supports the Rangers in media open locker room http://yfrog.com/j6cphhj
PRACTICE REPORT:
New Orleans Saints injury report: Reggie Bush limited; Pierre Thomas, Jeremy Shockey and Darren Sharper held out of team drills | NOLA.com
Bush is expected to return for Sunday's game against Seattle Seahawks
Saints’ Thomas, Shockey, Sharper listed as DNP; Bush limited | New Orleans News, Local News, Breaking News, Weather | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
"Each week he (Bush) has gotten better and better," Payton said. "There hasn’t been any setbacks. He’s better today than he was two weeks ago."
NFC South RBs coming and going - NFC South Blog - ESPN
The Saints have done a nice job without their offense producing the way it did last year. But having Bush back could really boost this offense as the Saints head for a playoff drive.
SEAHAWKS @ SAINTS:
New Orleans Saints Week 11 Game Release
Source: Reggie Bush of New Orleans Saints plans to return Sunday against Seattle Seahawks - ESPN
Saints running back Reggie Bush, who has missed the past seven games due to a broken fibula, plans to play Sunday against Seattle, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll trying to move on from USC controversy | NOLA.com
Pair will reunite in New Orleans Saints' game vs. Seattle Seahawks on Sunday
LAGNIAPPE:
Where the Saints rank in the NFL: Defense remains 3rd after bye week | New Orleans News, Local News, Breaking News, Weather | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Total offense (369.9 yards) – 7th Rush offense (93.7 yards) – 25th Pass offense (276.2 yards) – 5th Total defense (277.0 yards) – 3rd Rush defense (110.7 yards) – 17th Pass defense (166.3 yards) – 1st
Saints still bringing blitz from DBs - NFC South Blog - ESPN
Even though the Saints have endured a bunch of injuries among their defensive backs, it hasn’t stopped coordinator Gregg Williams from being aggressive with his secondary.
Matt Ryan, Drew Brees excel vs. blitz - NFC South Blog - ESPN
Other than age, there’s an easy way to see who the most experienced quarterbacks in the NFC South are.
Panthers place Williams on IR; Clausen sits out
Things just keep getting worse for the woeful Carolina Panthers.
Tom Dempsey to appear at Saints Hall of Fame
Two weeks after the 40th anniversary of his NFL record-setting 63-yard field goal garnered national attention, Saints Hall of Fame kicker Tom Dempsey will appear at the Saints Hall of Fame Museum on Sunday, November 21 from 1 p.m.-2:30 p.m., prior to the New Orleans Saints game against the Seattle Seahawks.
Imagination Movers to sing national anthem at Saints game | NOLA.com
The 'Ace of Cakes' recently paid them a visit.
NFL playoff predictions with seven weeks remaining - Jerome Bettis - SI.com
Prediction: Falcons win the division; Saints get a wild-card berth. Put Bettis on the list, Stu.
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Office of Motor Vehicles branches expect delivery around Dec. 1
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Al Nastasi Jr., the NFL official who was hospitalized after a hit during the Saints game against the Browns last month, has been released from the hospital, according to his family
TRANSCRIPT:
New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton
Post-Practice Press Conference
Wednesday, November 17, 2010
Opening Statement:
"Let’s go through the injury report for today’s practice: tackle Jon Stinchcomb (knee) was limited; running back Reggie Bush (fibula) was limited; Chris Ivory (shoulder) was limited; Malcolm Jenkins (neck) was limited; Darren Sharper (hamstring) did not practice; Pierre Thomas (ankle) did not practice; tight end Jeremy Shockey (rib) did not practice; and cornerback Patrick Robinson (ankle) did not practice. Most of the work was base, with some nickel today with the schedule being a little different having gotten some work in on Monday."
Do you see these "amoeba" or free-floating defensive fronts as a fad or something you think you’ll be seeing more of?
"I don’t think it’s a fad. We’ve seen it in years past. I think it’s something that for the last couple or three years you’ve seen more and more, especially on third down. It’s trying to get off the field defensively, not trying to be stagnant but trying to really confuse the protections to begin with and get a guy free. I wouldn’t say it’s anything new; it’s something that has existed now for a couple of years."
Do you think you’ll see more of it?
"At Carolina we got a few snaps of it. Each week you try to prepare for it. One thing that helps is that when you stay in the third down and manageable situations where it’s not as one-dimensional to where it’s just pass. When you stay underneath third-and-seven, I think it’s harder to play in the third down and two-to-three or four-to-six, and yet each week you work on those different looks."
You and Reggie Bush had both spoken pretty confidently last week about him returning for this game. Does that still seem likely?
"Yes. He was limited today; he moved around pretty well and got some good work. We just keep plugging ahead and increasing the workload."
Was Pierre Thomas able to do some more today?
"Yes. He’s making progress. With him, I really just want to go day-to-day here this week and just see how he continues to move."
What is the status of Shockey’s ribs? Is it a pain tolerance thing?
"He didn’t practice. It’s just getting through that initial soreness."
Is Pierre out of the boot and off crutches?
"Yes. He’s been out now and was out and all that."
How would you see your gameday roster looking if Reggie is able to play? Would he take the spot of another running back?
"We’ll see. There are a lot of move parts to it when you take into account the handful of guys that didn’t practice. We have some flexibility and we’ll wait as the week goes on without trying to on Wednesday predict where it would be. We’ll see how it goes."
Is this the best that Reggie has looked since his injury?
"Yes. Each week he has gotten better and better progressively, so yes. There haven’t been any setbacks, so naturally he’s better today than he was a week ago or two weeks ago."
What have you been able to do in recent weeks to increase your yards per passing attempt?
"It’s just being mindful of our shot plays and continuing to work on those each week in practice. Those can come on early downs; those can come on third down. It’s each week trying to create those opportunities and yet check it down if it’s not there. Drew (Brees) has done a good job at that."
Is there anything you’ve done differently as far as play design?
"We always look to tweak and come up with new thoughts and we’ll continue to do that."
What have you seen from Seattle so far?
"They’re a team with real good speed. They played well last week. First off, in the return game, Leon Washington is a huge threat as a returner, just as (Golden) Tate is on their punt returns. That’s one aspect that jumps out at you. With Matt (Hasselbeck) at quarterback, they’re playing with a lot of confidence. He played well last week. They have speed outside at receiver and they have size as well. Defensively, you get a lot of different looks, especially in the nickel. They’ve been able to rush the passer as well as anyone this season, when you look statistically at their hurries, their sacks, their numbers. They cover well on the back end. So they present a big challenge and there are some looks that are different and are unlike some other defenses that we’ve faced prior to this game. They’re playing with a lot of energy and a lot of confidence."
You’ve drafted guys from USC in Reggie Bush, Charles Brown and Sedrick Ellis. Do you have a relationship with Pete Carroll as a result of that?
"Just professionally from over the years. Outside of that, it would be more of the league events. He’s done a great job when you look first at the success that they had at USC and then the success that they’re having right now in quickly turning their program around."
What kind of challenges face you in playing this game and then turning around with a Thursday afternoon game next week? Do you prepare any differently?
"The key is just making sure that you’re looking at the rep count. The focus obviously this week is just on Seattle and then the Thursday game after becomes a little bit more challenging in regards to how much time you spend practicing and meeting and going through walkthroughs. But it doesn’t really affect this week at all."
Were you able to spend any time on Dallas during the bye week?
"No. Our prep and everything has been just Seattle."
Can you talk about Mike Williams and his re-emergence this season?
"Every once in a while in our league, a player finds another chance and another opportunity and he has taken advantage of it. He’s making a lot plays. He’s a guy that has real strong hands and does a great job of making plays above his head. Certainly you can see the confidence in Matt (Hasselbeck) in their passing game in calling his number, he gets targeted quite a bit and he’s playing with a lot of confidence. That’s a credit to him and to the staff there. They’ve done a good job of bringing him along and you can see that each week on tape."
If Reggie is a full-go this week, would that include punt returns?
"We’ll see. We’ll see where he’s at."
Is it tougher to get back into that than at running back?
"I think it’s a good possibility. I don’t know that it’s tougher. That’s something that we’ll consider and look at as the week goes on and have a plan once the game starts."
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Tweets and links, tweets and links, I'm so full my tummy aches
How sad it must end, but I’m glad I’ve a friend sharing tweets and links with me, and links with me.
A “CSC shout-out” to the first member to name that allusion.
Nice work, Satch. And if there’s a transcript and practice update sections…that means we play on SUNDAY!!!! Yee-Haw!!!
It's gonna be a great year.
“Debbie Does Dallas?”
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 17, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
nice try
but, no.
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 17, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
From the foreword of the 7th edition of Commentaries of Nicetas Acominatus, by Nigel Tufnel.
Or something like that.
It was worth the wait.
M-E is the man
Going deeper into the Tap than ever thought possible. Well done.
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 18, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
P-rob and Sharper still hurt even after bye?
No fun.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Bettis' prediction isn't outrageous
The Saints don’t control their own destiny right now. They need the Falcons to lose at least one other game besides the head-to-head matchup in week 16. There’s not many opportunities for that to happen. Green Bay has a reasonable chance, and maybe the Bucs in Tampa Bay. The good news is that even if the Saints end up with a wildcard berth, they should be able to beat any of the potential 3rd or 4th seed teams (currently Seattle and Chicago).
Still 7 more games to play.
The Falcons will stumble at some point. They’re only a missed FG and a couple plays away from being 5-4 now. They’re definitely good, but I can’t yet buy them as great.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 17, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
With their remaining schedule, they don't have to be great
The Saints remaining schedule, though, is far tougher, and they will have to be great. I think they can and probably will be, but the Falcons will have to stumble more than once. The Saints need them to fall on their face and knock out a few teeth. I still like the Saints chances to win the division, but picking the Falcons isn’t crazy.
Um, “far tougher”? Say what?
OK Atlanta has Carolina twice, that helps them. But they also have to travel to Seattle, which is a different team at home than they are on the road. That won’t be a pushover. They have US. That won’t be a pushover, even if we lose it, we’re going to make them work for it. They have to travel to Tampa, a team that they were pretty lucky to beat the last time around. No guarantees there either. And they have Green Bay and the Clay Mathews Machine coming to town soon as well. That’s probably their most likely loss of the rest of the regular season. And if so I will watch on Game Rewind multiple times and enjoy every second of it, over and over again.
As opposed to us, where we have the Suckhawks coming — granted, a risk if we overlook them, but if we simply don’t bury our heads up our rear ends and play like a high school team we should handle them with ease. We then have the Cowboys, a team that is certainly more talented than their record but also a team our #1 pass defense should be able to handle. Especially with Kitna. I’d be far more worried with Garrett at the helm AND Romo back there, but without Romo, Garrett alone doesn’t terrify me. No pushover, no, but again a game we should win. Then we have to go to Cincinnati, where their pass defense is a mild risk but at least they have no pass rush. And I’m planning to be in the stands so our boys BETTER not disappoint me. Then St. Louis at home, again a team that’s only been decent in the Edward Jones Dome, and while they will almost certainly lose to Atlanta as well they absolutely should lose to us. Then we have the Ravens, who had a great defense a few years ago but considering the spanking we put on the Steelers this is again a team we should be able to handle. Finally we have Atlanta, which WILL be hard, but still at least potentially winnable, and Tampa Bay, whose butts we ALREADY kicked in their own stadium, and this time we get them at home.
Where in all this do you see a schedule that is “far tougher”. I see fairly even schedules. Our remaining opponents are 32-31 and there isn’t a single game we can’t win left. Oh we might not do it, but we should at least get 6 of them. Their remaining opponents are 29-34, a shift of merely three games, but with only two “guaranteed” wins left (Carolina x2), and another three they “should” win (STL, TAM, SEA) — but might not. And then there will be two dog fights which win or lose they will go home from them sore for a week afterward.
Will we win the division? As lucky as those rat bastards have been all year long, probably not. Unless that changes, and I’m desperately hoping it does, of course. But we could still do it. And they actually could still not even make the playoffs. The odds are getting bad for either, much less both, but I’m still hoping for both until all hope is gone.
by FriarBob on Nov 18, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry Friar…but HB’s right. Their schedule is a cakewalk in comparison. Their two most difficult opponents are at home. In comparison we have AT Baltimore, AT Cincy (a team that almost beat Indy at home and is still very deadly offensively when they want to actually play) and AT Atlanta not to mention AT Dallas. Make fun all you want, people who dismiss the Cowboys are utterly moronic (not saying you are, but many seem to be). Our three home games are all against opponents with winning records or at 500. By comparison, it’s not even close.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
BOOM! Rec'd
Totally agree. Reading jeff’s and HB-Nola’s pessimism makes me feel like going on a Dennis Green rant:
That’s why we took the damn field. Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass! But they are who we thought they were!
There’s still half a season of football to play. Anything can happen. There are no easy wins for any team.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 18, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
So not being delusional equals pessimism? Interesting. They must taint the water down there in Louisiana.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Who's delusional?
We’re just big fans of our team and still think they have a shot to win the division. You act as if the Falcons have a 3-4 game lead on us. There’s still seven games to be played by all teams! Let’s just sit back and see how the W-L records turn out to see who’s closer to the mark.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 18, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Of course we have a chance. I’ve never claimed otherwise. And i’ve never acted like the Falcons have a 3-4 game lead. I’ve acted like they have the 2 game lead due to tie-breakers that they actually have. It amazes me that you people REFUSE to look at statistical certainty. It is 100% true that the Saints remaining schedule is more difficult that the Falcons. that’s all I said. Look at the records, look at the home vs road opponents. It’s not arguable from a statistical standpoint. Yet you all refuse to believe it with rose colored glasses and spout off garbage about how Atlanta’s schedule is actually more difficult. That’s delusional. It has nothing to do with pessimism, it has nothing to do with overreacting to a situation and has EVERYTHING to do with simple first grade math.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
pessimism?
I still like the Saints chances to win the division
Is that pessimistic? I’m just pointing out the reality of the situation and saying that Bettis wasn’t crazy to pick the Falcons to win the division. You’re the one that said he belongs on Stu’s list, which according to him is for outrageous claims.
I apologize for including you in my pessimism remark
I was mostly kidding about Bettis’s prediction. He could wind up being correct. I didn’t think Stu’s list was all that serious.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 18, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
here's how I see the Saints schedule being tougher
They play head-to-head in Atlanta. Advantage Falcons – they’ve already beaten the Saints and are clearly very tough at home.
Both teams play Seattle, St. Louis, and Tampa Bay. Slight edge to the Saints here, since they’re all road games for the Falcons, all home games for the Saints. But none of those teams should present a tremendous challenge for either team and the home/road advantage is minimal.
Saints play Dallas and Cincinnati, Falcons play Carolina twice. Huge advantage for the Falcons. Dallas and Cinci are both road games for the Saints, and both teams are a lot more dangerous than their records. Carolina might have Tony Pike under center – nuff said.
Saints play Ravens in Baltimore, Falcons play Packers at home. Slight advantage to the Falcons, or maybe even a push if the weather is decent in Baltimore.
Overall, the Falcons have a significant advantage in terms of schedule. What makes it far tougher for the Saints, though, is that they have no room for error, but the Falcons do. Worse, if both teams lose their apparently toughest games (Green Bay, Ravens), the Saints fall another game behind in the common opponents tie-breaker (they’re already one game back in that situation with the loss to Arizona).
The best shot for the Saints is probably Tampa Bay beating the Falcons. Assuming the Saints win in Atlanta, that would give the Saints the better division record, and avoid that nasty games in common tie breaker.
What's the story with Shockey?
Is it just soreness and he’s going to play? Are the ribs broken? I just got a Shockey jersey to wear to the Turkey Day game. If he needs to rest Sunday, so be it. But the dude MUST play on Turkey Day!
"It's better to burn out than fade away."
But the dude MUST play on Turkey Day!
I’ll make some phone calls and see what I can do.
"Relax, have a homebrew."
Thanks, I appreciate that.
"It's better to burn out than fade away."
by SaintsFan-KS on Nov 18, 2010 6:05 AM CST up reply actions
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