What the Hell Did Pierre Thomas Do?

but he has been underwhelming and it looks like we can plug anyone into the offense. If PT wants to keep a job in nola then he’s going to have to play more and harder.

I love PT also but am very afraid this is his last season as a Saint. Been hollering give PT the ball since Duece blew out his knee in 07. He has always been a team player and U never hear all the drama that you would with some other player over his contract. His number haven’t been so great this year but for some reason our O-line hasn’t been opening up the holes this year. If he is not pushing to get back so he will be healthy for free agency I can’t say I blame him. Hope I’m wrong but won’t be suprised if he is gone next year. I hope he remains this year and comes back strong to silence the doubters.

With that being said he will probably be back and if not I pray we do not trade our entire draft for that kid out of Oregon! If he goes pro….

I think PT is a great guy and a good football player, but he will want more than this front office will offer. He’s a screen running machine, but he’ll be in other colors next year.

remember how likely it seemed that sharper wouldn’t be back in a saints uniform – and how bitter he seemed about not getting the contract he wanted.

just sayin’…

the possibility that decisions are made based on personal opinions of a player? If you think that this is a fair world where only money (contracts) and a player’s skill level are involved, then you are pretty naive. Unfair choices are made all the time by management.

What the Hell Did Pierre Thomas Do?

We only know the player on the field. Granted, we fans and the media are unaware of any off-field incident that might shed bad light on PT (and I’m pretty sure he’s a good guy).

However, we don’t know. Players develop egos and attitudes. I can argue for and against that point. The problems surrounding Randy Moss and Manny Ramirez are well documented. Possibly because they are elite players and have more of a magnifying glass on them. You don’t have to be a nice guy to make it in sports. In no way am I saying that PT is a Manny or Moss. NO WAY. But just to make the point we don’t know the man or what could have transpired.

Nah, I’m pretty sure this was a money thing. But, hey, we still have him, right?

hopefully it wasn’t a real serious attempt to move him. Can’t see why a team would be interested in a RB in the 9th week who is not making progress on healing a sprained ankle. Sounds fishy. For, the record I don’t think PT needs a scare- in fact it probably is counterproductive- but I’m not Payton.

I’m with PT- get healthy mon!!!

Unlike many (or most) NFL players, especially those with a Super Bowl ring, PT has never swung back at Payton or the Saints in the media about a) his offseason contract discussions, b) the rumor that Payton is unhappy about his recovery time, or c) now this trade rumor thing. Can you imagine such a thing with the circuses (circi?) the league has annually in Dallas, Oakland, Minnesota (this year), and elsewhere.

 PT wanted a chance as a free agent coming out of college. Beat out a 4th round pick. Over 100 rushing and over 100 receiving at Chicago to end his rookie year, and with cracked ribs if I remember right. I don’t believe the offense, from a rushing standpoint or a pass protection standpoint, can be the same with RB manned by Reggie Bush and your free agent pickup of the week (Betts, JuJo, Ivory).

 For PayLoo to sell the virtues of being a team guy, of “we go by what we see on the field,” and particularly of ball security, and then have this situation erupt just 9 weeks into a season defending a Supwer Bowl title, is really bizarre.
 
 Guess Drew should be careful when it is time for his contract to be extended. Maybe Jamie Martin can do what Drew does thanks to Coach Payton

He runs hard (inside), is a great receiver especially with screens (SBowl was sweet in particular). I hope it is just that PT is injury prone and not something else if Payton is to that point of trading him at any opportunity. I voted no, but would not be surprised if he were moved after hearing about this. I’m with him also, get healthy and stay healthy.

No matter what PT or Payton portray themselves as in the media, it’s all going to come down to the money. Ultimately, the Saints are a business. If the Saints feel like they can the same productivity for a cheaper price tag, they are going to go that way.

I could see where we dont see PT back next year. Regardless of how we feel about the situation or PT (person or player), I could see Payton and crew having it in their heads that; generally, when the O-Line is playing at their best, you can plug pretty much anyone in the backfield and make it work. Hopefully, Chris Ivory’s flashes of brilliance haven’t already cause Payton to turn the page on PT.

For the lack of information we get, with most of that being disinformation, you’d think the Saint’s front office contains a few former KGB operatives. That said; we’ll never get the whole story, but I figure he did nothing more than standing up for himself by remaining seated after the injury. Sometimes I get the feeling that PayLoo has our offensive roster listed as Drew and Reggie, with everyone else referred to by position only.

What did he do? He bucked the boss.

Of course, we can’t expect a real answer even if someone there musters up the cahoonas to ask him. Alee-Walsh will ask him, if he’s there. I’m surprised the Times-Pic hasn’t at least mentioned it. Surely those guys have heard about it from Alee-Walsh. This is big, surprising news! So far, only Alee-Walsh is reporting/speculating this. Could his source in Pats land have been wrong? For a change, I look forward to Payton’s presser today.

He runs well, catches the ball well out of the backfield, and pass protects well for Drew. Never a question of effort. The trade in question was back in mid-October, the Saints were, and still are, hurting at cornerback. It’s possible the FO thinks Pierre will be gone at year’s end and wanted to get value at a position of need. Based on the performances of Jenkins and Torrence, I feel pretty good about our corners. Glad the trade fell through, because I, like so many others here, have been a fan of PT since he came into the league.

No-one but him knows whats up. Is his ankle really as bad as he says. I suspect SP doesn’t think so. So why stay out? To let the Saints see just how much better he is than the back ups? Who have not shown anywhere near his ability. Who knows? It is sure getting messy. Saints are at a point in this season where we need him back on the field or it will just be a moot point as we watch the other teams in the play off.

But again too many people are just thinking with their hearts instead of their brains. Pierre is a good back, but not great. The problem with Pierre is a combination of things. He wants to get paid like a number 1 back, but the fact is he isn’t. He’s a great role-player and situational back that has tremendous success in our system behind an incredibly prolific passing game and an offensive line that (last year at least) played tremendously.

He’s not worth number 1 money, and Payloo knew that. Granted Payloo also low-balled him more than they should have, more than likely to prove a point. Additionally he’s proven that he simply cannot stay healthy. You can’t afford number 1 RB money and a number 1 RB slot for a guy that sees the field 8-12 games a year. Heck we already have one of those in the obviously overpriced Bush.

We’ve seen what has happened to our team lately with a lack of a dependable runner. Our ability to use the running game effectively is what got us a championship. And yes, i am well aware that Pierre was that guy last year for the most part that helped get that championship, so please lay off that argument(Don’t forget that Bell was our #1 Rusher statistically last year carry wise). The truth is, he’s proven he can’t do that consistently from a health standpoint and therefore from a strictly monetary to gain standpoint it is in the best interest of the organization to let him go and attempt to find a more stable back and running game elsewhere. Yes it’s sad, i like Pierre too…but it’s also the truth.

I don’t know what to think about PT. Would I really like him to be out there? If he could perform, yes. But apparently right now he can’t. Will he be gone next year? Unless PayLoo and co do some SERIOUS apologizing, including financially, he’s got about a 95% chance of being gone. Is he the greatest thing since sliced bread? Not remotely. But is he the best back currently on the team? Very likely so. So I would like him to stay if we could find a way, but if he’s gone he’s not completely irreplaceable either.

You also mentioned GW. I think he’ll get some offers, but what he said a few months back about wanting the “right” offer suggests he’s not going to want to go to a team that’s horrid and try to rebuild it. So he’d want to go to somewhere with a good front office and a lot of good talent on the team that’s just under-performing. I’m not sure about the media side there. I could see him being interested in Dallas. Not sure about San Diego or Cincinnati. SD probably more likely than Cinti because he’d have an elite QB, but the GM there might make him say hell no before they even call. And he could do OK in Cinti with the right offensive coordinator. Other than that, I don’t see any obviously open slots he’d be interested in. And I don’t think he’s terribly likely to be hankering for any of those situations either. But he might, and if he goes, we will BADLY miss him.

What CB were we going to get from NE that PT plus a draft pick(which he never cost us in the first place) would have been worth?

Oh, wait. That was (allegedly) Randy Mueller. Maybe PT slept with a cheerleader? No…that was (allegedly) Haslett.

I’m not too worried about it. PT is good, but running backs are fairly fungible. We can find another one as good as he is, or make up for the production elsewhere.

Pierre Thomas is going on IR!

Guys would understand. I know this might be something that guys don’t do but will get.

So here is the analogy: with beauty products women find products that work for them and produce good results over a long period of time. Instead of sticking to those products they are always looking to buy something better because they heard it was amazing, even though they still have half a bottle of the product that does a good, relatively consistent job. They spend x amount of money on the supposed magic product only to find it wasn’t as great as everyone said it was and end up going back to the previous product.

Sometimes I feel like the NFL spends way too much money on the next big thing when the players that produce good results over a longer period of time are better contributors to the team.

Hopefully that makes sense.

This guy puts all his might into playing for the Saints and he gets an ankle injury and they thought about dealing him…this just shows me what Payton thinks of the run game period! He doesn’t run much as it is, he rarely gives Bush carries and his quasi-featureback is easily replaceable? I don’t get it…I understand it’s the NFL but dang!

“this just shows me what Payton thinks of the run game period!”

I say I say slow down there, boy! If he nixes Pierre and rolls with Ivory, you’re probably on to something. If he replaces him with a big name UFA or early round pick, this isn’t anything more than the Last Days of Troy Davis part deux.

I think PT will be gone come end of season and Payton will just replace him with someone else. Brandon Jacobs or somebody…I don’t think it really matters to him…he hates running.