Change of Hart?
by Dave Cariello on Nov 8, 2010 2:00 PM CST
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PrintIt's been four games now since Garrett Hartley has resumed his field goal kick duties following a Payton-imposed two week hiatus. When he first returned to work in the Saints week six matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Hartley again missed a field goal, leading us all to ponder the future of the Saints kicking game. But since then he's been a perfect five for five, giving us all hope once again that Hartley's is the man.
So can he once again be trusted when the game is on the line? I'm on the fence about this, honestly. Though he made both of his field goal tries yesterday (barely), his kicks still appeared to have that now infamous left hook. Perhaps it doesn't matter because he's simply adjusted his initial angle to compensate for his known curve tendencies.
Has Hartley truly fixed the problems that earned him a benching last month? Are you once again comfortable with Garrett Hartley's field goal kicking abilities? Is there anything behind the decision to take away his kickoff duties yesterday and give them to Thomas Morstead?
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Who would be better?
Short answer: No one who is available and affordable. He’s the Saints kicker for 2010 and probably 2011 as well.
"I don't know who the f*** Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now." -Channing Crowder
by stujo4 on Nov 8, 2010 2:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Kinda
I trust him more now, but I still say “Please don’t shank it” about ten times whenever I see him step on the field.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 8, 2010 2:05 PM CST reply actions
Well.. yesterday almost shanked the first XP....
Sorry to spoil the love fest but IMO he is still an accident waiting to happen…
Anyone wants to join me on the empty bandwagon....
He made it..........
shank or not! I was there……….
DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SAINTSfaninNC on Nov 8, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
I have faith in him
Although i would have a hell of a lot more of it if he didn’t appear to be pulling everything left.
I like Hamburgers!
I somewhat trust him
When he walks on the field I tell myself he is going to make it while silently cursing his name. It is getting better but i am just not ready to trust him yet. One easy shank and I will be wanting to punch him in the nose again
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
You give yourself tough love.
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by Jon Banks on Nov 8, 2010 5:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I always quote Reggie from the OT kick in the NFCCG
[both fingers crossed, sweating]
“C’mon Garrett, one time for your boy!”
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 8, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
Has Hartley truly fixed the problems that earned him a benching last month? Are you once again comfortable with Garrett Hartley’s field goal kicking abilities? Is there anything behind the decision to take away his kickoff duties yesterday and give them to Thomas Morstead?
1. Maybe
2. A little more so, but not to the comfort level of last year
3. Why did he kickoff in the first place?
My answer: a resounding=Hamburgers!
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
3. Why did he kickoff in the first place?
I asked that question myself. No idea.
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Hartley injured his ankle scrumming for the fumble in the Pitt game remember. Because of that Payton said that they would probably use Morstead on kick off duties in the Carolina game.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Ahh, i see that that should have been an answer to an above post and not yours…oh well, at least the info is out there. Although i agree…Morstead kicked off last year…why was Hartley kicking off this year?
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Morstead kicked off last year…why was Hartley kicking off this year?
yeah, this
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
Ahhh
Got it!
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by Dave Cariello on Nov 8, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I remember reading/hearing that Hartley was getting better hang time and placement on his kickoffs
and that’s why he was kicking off instead of Morstead.
But then, recently, Hartley got hurt in a tackling situation and they let Morstead kickoff again because of Hartley’s injured ankle. Maybe his injured ankle is causing the left hook to continue…
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 8, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
I'll admit i was mad at the FPK
But he kicked us into a superbowl last year and then set a superbowl record
And to be fair it’s not like our offense was tearing up the field at the same time
So i say give him till the end of the year and evaluate him
On another note none of our first rate moderators have reported the melt down in dallas
WADE PHILLIPS HAS BEEN FIRED
Wow who dodnt see that coming
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by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 8, 2010 2:29 PM CST reply actions
That’s a mistake. Jason Garrett is not the answer…in fact i think it’s one of the many, many problems. He was a wonder in his first year or so, but teams have picked up on his scheme and he has never adjusted.
Jerry should have simply rode it out and completely cleaned house at the end of the year, including firing Garrett. Of course I’ve always thought Jerry was part of the problem as well. Owner and President and General Manager?….yea that’s not working too well. A team in that much disarray…problems tend to start at the top.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
I agree, Jason Garrett is not the answer
Did you see him on Hard Knocks? He’s a puss. But Jerry thinks he’s GOLD. So I think it’s a good idea to give him the rest of the season to demonstrate that he is not a head coach.
Jerry needs a Jimmy Johnson type who won’t allow him to interfere. He can come down to the sideline but he can’t interfere. John Fat Bear Fox? Gruden? Maybe Cowher?
"I don't know who the f*** Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now." -Channing Crowder
I believe Jason Garret is their biggest problem
I would have fired Garret before I fired Phillips he’s the worst OC in the pro’s next to that guy that runs the panthers offense
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by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 8, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry Jones world,
Jerry Jones regrets letting Sean Payton squirm away from Dallas because he realized how good of a coaching mind he really has. And for some reason Jones thinks he is the reason for that, so he thinks Jason Garrett will be the next Sean Payton.
Sean Payton left for a reason.
For all his faults, Tom Benson gave Payton a free hand to rebuild the program from the ground up.
JJ would never have given him that kind of freedom. JJ would have asked to be involved with every single cut, every hiring, every coaching decision, everything.
by ungarsfragile on Nov 8, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
sean payton took the job because it was the only one offered from a team that didnt end in "akland"
as much as we dont like dallas, sp would have taken the job at the drop of a hat, had it not been occupied by parcells
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Nov 8, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
^exactly
I fear Payton may be tempted by Jones to ditch us and go coach his boy Romo and “America’s Team.” Jones has the money, draft picks, and total craziness that would be necessary to get SP out of his current contract.
It’s a very long shot because Payton must know he’s got a very good thing going here with Brees and all. Plus, SP has the local media firmly in his hip pocket. He and Brees practically own this town. But, the Cowboys HC vacancy does kinda worry me. You know SP has dreamed about head coaching there more than a few times in his life.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 8, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
the thought had crossed my mind
but i dont think there is a chance that sp will leave here until brees retires
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Nov 8, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Tom Benson gave Payton a free hand to rebuild the program
I think Mickey Loomis had a free hand in that too.
"I don't know who the f*** Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now." -Channing Crowder
true dat
Loomis and Payton also have great chemistry. In dallas JJ is the owner AND manager, which makes it an even crazier place to try and HC
by ungarsfragile on Nov 8, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Rita
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 8, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I was just about to write that
He is so afraid of losing another SP he gave Garret a big contract a couple of years ago and called him his coach in waiting
So Garret owes this oppertunity to SP and I hope we drive home that fact on thanksgivingday
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 8, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry Jones is their biggest problem
He assembled the team, he hired the coach. Nobody in that organization can decide whether to wipe front to back or back to front without it going through Jerry first.
I know the guy wants to win, but he needs to delegate to more qualified personnel and step back.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Nov 8, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This has nothing to do with the right or wrong choice.
This has everything to do with the Cowboys name loosing its noteriety. Jerry Jones is loosing money in merchandise, TV ratings, and fan support. This move to fire Phillips and move in Garret is the only thing a business man could possibly do to recoup any type of loss. Jerry Jones has just as much to do with this season as Wade Phillips. Jerry Jones is the GM of that team. The media will have this story spunn to take all blame off of Jones, and have Garret being the savior of this team, while at the same time filling their pockets and pointing their fingers at Wade Phillips for the next 10 years. Because, well, let’s face it Jones owns the media.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Nov 8, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Not to split hairs or anything, but...
I posted it in the Fanshot section about 40 minutes ago.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 8, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
BURN
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Nov 8, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
My bad i guess i should have seen it there
And i would like the other half of my hairs back that you just split lol
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by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 8, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
No problem
They’re in the mail. :)
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 8, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
I was pissed today
When I sat down to watch Oprah’s interview with Michael Jackson’s parents it was interrupted with so called “breaking news” of Jerry’s press conference. Really Dallas? Breaking news?
Breesus Is My Homeboy
by SarahT on Nov 8, 2010 11:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Do i trust him?
Of course not. Has he been perfect since his benching…technically yes. But at the same time all he’s kicking are field goals between 25-35 yards.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
The under 30 yd. range
is what was killing him. But then again, SP probably didn’t have faith in him to go for anything longer seeing that shank everyday in practice.
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
He's a kid
and he suffers from nerves in front of the home crowd. Yeah he needs to get over it, but he’s got a hell of a leg and has performed beautifully under pressure (NFC championship- we went to the super bowl on Hartley’s leg). He booted some beautiful kicks in SF, and Candlestick is notorious for crazy wind. I trust Hartley, and I think as long as he keeps his head in the game (and maybe takes some beta blockers), he’ll be a great kicker for us.
as for Morestead.. He defines clutch. I gave Payton a lot of crap for trading up in the draft to take a punter, but Morestead has been absolutely perfect at his position from day one. I don’t think there’s a better punter in the league, and Payton knows it- I think that’s why he had Ambush in the back of his playbook. Show me another punter in the league who could have pulled off that play.
by ungarsfragile on Nov 8, 2010 2:36 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
boom rec'd it, the Morstead part
Mr. Dave doesn’t like Morstead, yet he won’t say exactly why.
"I don't know who the f*** Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now." -Channing Crowder
WHAT!?
I LOVE Morstead!!!
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by Dave Cariello on Nov 8, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
must be some kind of joke, I didn't get it
Should have asked you about it then. Thought you meant he did not belong in the pro bowl.
"I don't know who the f*** Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now." -Channing Crowder
I love your sig line
Just read that Crowder transcript. Freakin’ hilarious that he got Frank and Helen Keller confused. If someone had spit in my face, I probably would’ve been just as incoherently upset.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Nov 8, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it would be more obscure
It made the Wichita Eagle sports page today. Then I see Peter King quoted him. Time to move on.
"I don't know who the f*** Anne Frank is. I'm mad right now." -Channing Crowder
I voted no
only because I think from now on I’ll always say a little prayer every time he lines up.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
I still can't help but remember...
if he had made his chip shot against the Falcons, we’d be in first place in the division and share the best record in the NFL.
Granted he was gold in the playoffs and the Super Bowl, but it’ll take a lot more consistency before I get to the point I won’t have to look the other way if he walks on the field with the game on the line.
In Hartley's defense
The wind yesterday was horrible in Carolina. If you go back and look at John Kasays missed kick, the ball changed direction twice..
and whats wrong with Morstead? His avg is 4th in the league.
by vanondubs on Nov 8, 2010 2:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I am very trustworthy.
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
You better be or Ndomanik Suh will try to steal your job
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by mississippisaintsfan on Nov 8, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
for all the bs this year
i trust him… it just sucks that he misses one kick in a close game (atl) and everybody wants to crucify him (myself included), but a missed kick in a blowout (tb) and nobody really cares. how many kicks does an average kicker take in practice? are they put on something like a pitch count so they dont wear themselves out?
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Nov 8, 2010 3:37 PM CST reply actions
Dave, your post titles are getting more and more corny.
God bless you, son. LOL
"Relax, have a homebrew!"
at least he didn't go with
Hart to Hart
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 8, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Knew this was from you before I even looked. :)
"In fact with that article from today that had him real lean and everything, I think I’m going to play him at corner this week in place of Tracy Porter."-Greg Williams in refefernce to Sedrick Ellis
Ha! Either I'm way too predictable
Or I’ve found my perfect niche and everyone knows it…
Doesn’t matter – either way, I’m not gonna stop being who I am. I yam who I yam!
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 8, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
I live in a garbage can…
(I forget the rest)
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 9, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn’t that be Oscar the Grouch? :)
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
yeah, him too
but the Popeye song I was quoting is a “school-yard” version of the one from the cartoon for Popeye I vaguely remember singing as I child, it had lyrics that were silly/mean about Popeye…
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Nov 9, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
You don't want to remember.
Because I do. Poor Popeye.
Week 10 matchup: Bye
Week 10 motto: Bye? Where are you going?
I think it was
I’m Popeye the Sailor Man
I live in a garbage can.
I’m strong to the finish,
cuz I eats me spinach
I’m Popeye the Saaaaaylor Maaaaaaan!
Dorothy-"But how can you talk if you haven't got a brain?" Scarecrow- "I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking." -Wizard of Oz
Are we entirely sure that the hook is entirely his fault? Obviously of course it is at least partially his fault. But is it entirely so? I haven’t been impressed with Kyle’s snapping this year. His hustle and downfield play on punts and such like that, yeah, very much so. His snapping, however, not so much.
I’m no longer watching and thinking “watch, he’s going to shank it again and cost us another game”. That’s a good step in the right direction. Am I truly confident in him again? Not so sure.
I'm not entirely sure
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by Dave Cariello on Nov 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
Now that I am back on my aderall
I haven’t missed at all.
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
haha
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by Dave Cariello on Nov 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
He's going to screw up again
It’s bound to happen, that’s how things go. No one can be 100%. Unfortunately from here on out just like everyone else I hold my breath every time he steps up to kick.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
by SarahT on Nov 8, 2010 11:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Exactly Sarah
I’m sure noone remembers, but Morten used to miss one now and again. It was more hurtful when he was the entire offense.
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by PanheadCatahoula on Nov 9, 2010 5:06 AM CST reply actions
You're holding Hartley to a higher standard than you use for Drew Brees
Although it’s slightly lower than what you use for Reggie.
Sloppy Gertie, she's so dirty, Skinny Minnie, she's too lean. Tracy's face is out of place, and Joanie's downright mean.
The goal posts are not running around trying to beat coverage. If they were, then yeah, a 60-70% success rate would probably be acceptable. As they are stationary and 18’6" wide, it’s not unreasonable to expect a higher “completion” percentage.
all true
and Brees poop continues to smell like fresh fruit.
Sloppy Gertie, she's so dirty, Skinny Minnie, she's too lean. Tracy's face is out of place, and Joanie's downright mean.
oh wait a minute
it’s not unreasonable to expect a higher "completion" percentage.
Some people around here think that anything less than 100% is an unacceptable completion percentage. The fat little punk misses a couple of kicks and they want to tack him up like Jesus1000. Meanwhile Breesus underthrows, overthrows, and panics in the pocket with no consequences from the same people around here. Drew Brees is a great quarterback, the best the Saints have ever had but he’s in his 9th season and I think he has already had his best year.
Sloppy Gertie, she's so dirty, Skinny Minnie, she's too lean. Tracy's face is out of place, and Joanie's downright mean.
That's just it.
Brees as you said is a great QB. Now in his 10th season he already has over 33,000 passing yards which currently places him 21st all time and will surpass 16th on the list by the end of the year barring injury. Assuming he plays just 4 years after this one at an average of 3500 yards a year (well underneath his current pace the last 5 years) he’ll wind up retiring 4th all time behind Favre, Marino and Elway (although yes Manning will be beyond him too by that point assuming he plays at least 1 more year. His 220 TDs currently rank 21st all time. Again at say only 20 TD passes on average in 4 years…he retires top 5 all time.
Brees has EARNED the right for his poop to smell like fresh fruit on occasion. Even the greats make mistakes. Maybe you’re right and he is on an inevitable, slow decline. But he still was, is, and will be an all time great. Who in their right mind would apply that label to Hartley? Do i trust Hartley kicking…not at the moment. Doesn’t mean i want to get rid of him. Just means that when he takes the field on an important kick I’m going to watch with a little wince.
The reason why Brees gets passes on occasion where Hartley doesn’t is the same exact reason you don’t compare Peyton Hillis favorably to Jim Brown. One of them earned the right to be where they are in the history of the game, the other is merely starting out trying to make his way in the sport. It’s not like we didn’t give Morten a pass on occasion when he missed a kick. We did it because we knew where he stood in the pantheon of those who played the game. In time, maybe Hartley will have earned the same respect. But until he does…it’s business as usual.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
what?
Brees has EARNED the right for his poop to smell like fresh fruit on occasion.
Not for long. When he starts stinking it up regularly, he’ll get booed. Not if, when.
In time, maybe Hartley will have earned the same respect.
Some people will not allow him the time. The poll shows 46% do not trust him already. He’s 10 for 14 in 7 games.
Sloppy Gertie, she's so dirty, Skinny Minnie, she's too lean. Tracy's face is out of place, and Joanie's downright mean.
Stu…seriously, we’ve had our arguments in the past obviously, and for the most part i simply try and roll with the fact that you, like me, enjoy being argumentative, but frankly what you just posted screams hypocritical.
You’re trying to throw Brees under the bus who has had 2 bad games this year. But Hartley who has had 3 terrible games this year (anytime a kicker misses kicks from inside 35 yards is definitely a terrible game) you’re staunchly defending? Seriously? I like Brees…a lot…but i don’t love him to death. I don’t walk around proclaiming him “Breesus” and all the other crap i see. When he plays bad i say it. Did he play bad against Carolina this weekend?…no. He didn’t play great either. Just an average day against a good D.
Your comments in this regard are incredibly off base and are definitely unwarranted. I even defended Hartley’s right to keep kicking and earn some respect…yet you once again nit pick out a line and try to spin it for your own good. No doubt you’ll try zinging another “passive aggressive” crap line in response to me for this time too. I don’t get. What the hell has soured you over the last 6-8 weeks? I always respected you…but frankly I also expected better.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
ok now I'm calling BS
I always respected you
I think you mean “never”. Not that it matters to me. And I don’t care what you expect.
I’m critical of Brees because of the widespread belief that he can do no wrong, and he’s doing more wrong this year than since he left San Diego. He was not good in the first half of the game against the Panters, brilliant in the second half. How did that happen? I think it’s the beginning of the decline. Just my opinion. Consider me your early warning system.
I really wouldn't mind, but you know I've got my pride to think of, uh huh
I’m critical of Brees because of the widespread belief that he can do no wrong
People do that for people they love, whether they be sports heros, parents, or even politicans.
and he’s doing more wrong this year than since he left San Diego
Statistically speaking, Brees is almost as accuarate as last year, with more attempts and more yardage than at the same time last year. However, his average passing per yard is 6.9 compared to 6.8 in 2007. The big stat is INT and SACK, which I’m going to give my personal opinion is on the O-line for sucking this year in pass protection. QB Rating is higher than in 2007 as well. He has had a worse year while here in 2007 and 2008 regarding INT.
He was not good in the first half of the game against the Panters, brilliant in the second half. How did that happen? I think it’s the beginning of the decline. Just my opinion. Consider me your early warning system.
Same as in the Steelers game, and the same for the super bowl, and the Miami game, and the Cowboys game, and the redskins game, and the 49ers game. Oh wait, some of those were last year. Most QB are better in the 2nd half after team adjustments, I think you are just worrying because he hasn’t been up to 2009 standards, which set the bar at about sky high.
Week 10 matchup: Bye
Week 10 motto: Bye? Where are you going?
Drew had 2 bad games...
but at least 4 other very average ones. Amen for our D cause it seems that we’re too often winning despite of his performance…
Since NFL required Saints to declare Brees on there medical report two weeks after he injured his knee against Atlanta, you knew it had to be meaningful. Payton hiding it should also be irrefutable proof of it. I also think he injured his throwing shoulder on a sack from the Niners. Don’t know how both injuries are coming on but, by the way he runs for his life as a deer seeing imaginary SUV fog lights and that he avoids at all cost stepping into his front leg when he throws, he surely looks worried about both.
As weird as it may sound, I do hope he’s hurt and that our bye-week will do wonders for his health. Otherwise, it would mean one of two things: He’s having a bad year or Saints should really start looking for a young QB (not you Chase Daniel) to groom.
So even if I agree that Brees isn’t presently worthy of his own shadow, I’ll wait Seattle and Thanksgiving before I run out of excuses and jump Stu’s “decline” bandwaggon.
Since I think he’s already wrong about Hartley (Missed XP waiting to happen) being around at the end of the year, I hope he doesn’t take it’s personnal…
Repeat? Under construction...
By the way...
don’t put to much into Stu’s opinion:
Meanwhile Breesus underthrows, overthrows,
Overthrows? HA!
Repeat? Under construction...
de le prendre personnellement
I really wouldn't mind, but you know I've got my pride to think of, uh huh
At least...
you don’t make mistake as I do (it’s??)
Repeat? Under construction...
by FrenchFreak on Nov 10, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
he’ll get booed. Not if, when.
If he gets booed, it won’t be from a true fan, nor will it be from someone who watched him play, or get tears in their eyes after watching the 2009 season climax as it did. He may not be the best QB to ever step onto the field, and yes he is having a somewhat average year compared to the “Breesus” of 2009, but every QB has declined this year, even Manning. This is the year of the NFL parity and defense it seems. As well, QB like Brees have earned the right for bad games, and afterwards noone will clamor to have him thrown off the team (except some idjiots on twitter) like people were going after Hartley.
Week 10 matchup: Bye
Week 10 motto: Bye? Where are you going?
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