Saints 24 @ Ravens 30: Saints Run Over by Rice, Ravens
by Dave Cariello on Dec 19, 2010 4:11 PM CST
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PrintThe Saints came back from a 14-point deficit and 21 unanswered by the Ravens to tie it up in the 4th quarter. They couldn't seal the deal, however, when they were down by three with the ball in their possession and three minutes left on the clock.
I don't have anything inspirational to say right now. I apologize if you've come here looking for hope and/or support. I believe at the heart of the Saints problems today was their inability to stop the run while at the same time not dedicating themselves to and successfully running the ball themselves.
The good news is that the Ravens are a good team and this was a tough road game for the Saints. The other good news is that they're an AFC opponent so the loss doesn't hurt in the standings so much. Unfortunately, it doesn't really matter because unless the Falcons lose out the Saints now have no chance of winning the division and can only hope for the 5th seed (first wildcard) at best.
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- Drew Brees almost made it the entire game without throwing an interception until he threw a pick - and the Saints chances of winning - to Cory Redding with less than two minutes remaining along with it. I'm sure that screwed up a bunch of our weekly predictions. The interception streak now extends to ten games in a row.
- Brees had pressure in his face all afternoon. Not good work by the offensive line to give Drew time. Fortunately, the Saints were able to recover the two fumbles by Brees in the same series.
- Ravens running back Ray Rice had 233 all-purpose yards. It's going to be a long day if you're giving up that kind of yardage to an opposing team. The Saints defense did a poor job stopping the run.
- At the same time, I would have really liked to see the Saints dedicate themselves more to the run.
- It was an afternoon of magical catches. Jimmy Graham's first touchdown was a splendid one-handed, falling grab. Lance Moore's game-tying reception after a tip drill was a heads-up effort of concentration.
- Jabari Greer left the game with a left knee injury. Instead of playing Leigh Torrence it seems like it would have made more sense to move Jenkins over to Greer's spot and have Sharper play free safety full time.
- Courtney Roby is a great gunner but I think Pierre Thomas is a bigger threat as a kickoff return man.
- Too much dancing from Reggie. Officially he had four carries for -4 yards in the running game.
- Both teams were penalized for 68 yards each, but the Saints managed to do it with only half the number of penalty calls (5).
- Give credit to the Ravens, who did a good job with ball protection. It looked like the Saints tried desperately to force a fumble throughout the game but just couldn't make it happen.
- A lot of piss poor tackling by the Saints defense.
- Hartley's ability to kick in the wind was never a factor. He did all that was asked of him.
- Congratulations to Marvin Mitchell who got the first sack of his career.
- I enjoyed the Christmas-themed scoreboard during the FOX broadcast, particularly the Christmas lights denoting the number of timeouts. Really puts me in the holiday spirit.
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we couldn't/didn't run the ball
we couldn’t stop the run
these two factors made for an ugly afternoon
I’m glad they didn’t just roll over after getting down 21-7, but to come up short in this way is maddeningly frustrating – the Ravens let us stay in the game…
It's gonna be a great year.
I would have rathered lost 21-7, then make that comeback for nothing
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Brees did good.
I blame the receivers and the O-line over him. One man does not make a team.
Week 15 matchup: Ravens
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Have a Merry Christmas
Exactly.
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by CrazyforColston on Dec 19, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Also,
In order to deal with this loss I need to irrationally pick one player and blame him. So Reggie? For all the East-West running you did, I choose you.
Week 15 matchup: Ravens
Week 15 motto: My right nut for no Drew Brees interceptions
Have a Merry Christmas
Yeah I've had it with Reggie's East/West Crap
Our Run D was horrific and 3rd downs including dropped passes killed us
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if the Saints needed assistance in how to run the ball on the Ravens they could have easily watched the Texans game
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
we looked really bad in the Week 15 game last year, too
but this time we weren’t carrying in a 13-game win streak with big blowouts and magical comebacks
this team could make the playoffs and do well, or we could sink like a lead balloon…
10-4 is still pretty good, but I saw a lot that I did not like today
It's gonna be a great year.
Defense lost this one. Couldn't stop the run and when we needed a big stop they gave up a big play.
I've tasted the Kool-Aid and it's damn good!
I agree with that
Offense puts up 24 points, special teams does it’s job. Defense let a poor running team look great.
just when we all thought we’d run over their defense
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
I clicked "Buy Photo" under Shanle's tight coverage ...
and heard a toilet flush. What’s up with that?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
I said things about Shanle today..
That would make you blush. Any room on the bandwagon?
Week 15 matchup: Ravens
Week 15 motto: My right nut for no Drew Brees interceptions
Have a Merry Christmas
I think Shanle has dirt on the coaching staff or owners
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
46 passing attempts to 14 rushing attempts
and it’s the defense’s fault we lost the game? LMFAO!
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
by coldpizza on Dec 19, 2010 4:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
And how many rushing yards were we getting when we were running?
Baltimore dominated our O-line. We couldn’t win in the trenches. Had we kept forcing the run we would have sucked.
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14 rushes for 27 yards
I’m not sure running the ball just to run it would have helped.
by Stuart Carlton on Dec 19, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Chris Ivory would have made a difference
We missed him today.
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by Jricky70 on Dec 19, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course it would have. It would have neutralized the pass rush. Did you miss Pierre’s 9 yard draw on the first scoring drive? The defense wasn’t expecting that. That’s why it worked. Most of the failed runs were outside stuff to Reggie — our least productive halfback all season — and on downs where a rushing attempt wasn’t that much of a stretch. It doesn’t take a genius to predict the results of such plays. Regardless, even a few of those throwaway snaps were more productive than the 17 incompletions.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
I'm gonna agree with you on a lot of that.
I remember thinking that I knew when they were gonna run.
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Agree. Should have done more draw plays against them
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Agree also. I thought this would be the day we established a ground game. Even with Ivory not in the game, we should have had more run plays from the get go. We got a lucky break with the weather and wasted it.
With that said, the defense shares the majority of fault for this loss. The only thing worse than not being able to run the ball is to not being able to stop runs by the opposing team. Today, we couldn’t do either.
All I need now is for Atlanta to lose and be left to wonder what might have been.
We should have run the ball more effectively
But I don’t think we would have. Other than the draw play, did we have a single good run? PT had 3.3 YPC, Julius Jones averaged 2.75, and Reginald averaged -1. Perhaps a few more runs sprinkled in would’ve been nice, especially if it had neutralized the pass rush, but I’m not sure it would’ve made a difference.
Don’t forget about special teams: the Ravens’ were excellent, ours not so much. Their punter had a great game, and they had a couple of good returns, too.
The Saints got beat by a better team today, pure and simple.
by Stuart Carlton on Dec 19, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
2.75 × 4 = 11. That’s enough to get it done.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
You can up that average a bit if you just Cut That Chump from your calculation.
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9 yd PT Draw was Sweet then disappeared
Reggie running sideways v. that D wasn’t happening. Agree
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If I recall correctly, they were in the backfield as soon as he got the ball.
Anybody would’ve got put out like that. Now yall wanna say, “Ivory would’ve made a difference…” you guys are a trip! What happened to all the PT love?! Ivory wouldn’t have done jack! The Ravens play teams with better RB’s than us and stuff them too, quit being homers and be real. Payton barely ran the ball and didn’t use his brain when he did. With a team like the Ravens, he should’ve used more draws and delays—taking advantage of his pass-happy reputation and the Raven’s over pursuing. This loss is all on Payton! Period!
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
and it’s the defense’s fault we lost the game? LMFAO!
Look at the stats. Allowing 208 yards on the ground.
Unacceptable.
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by Jricky70 on Dec 19, 2010 4:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Sorry Jricky, but I have to...
Week 15 matchup: Ravens
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Have a Merry Christmas
You see who they exampalized.............Gettin tuff on me........
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Unacceptable, yet predictable when your offense is failing to maintain drives by passing 76.7% of the time. It’s unacceptable for a driver not to yield to a pedestrian. Does that make it a wise idea to skip across the interstate?
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Unacceptable on both sides I agree
Our screen game was non existent, zero running game, dropped passes, few costly penalties. And it really hurts your offense when you can’t convert on 3rd down.
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Regarding Penalties
Did you see all the bad calls??? The intentional grounding call on Brees was definitely wrong. I rewound the play and he threw the ball 6 or 7 yards past the line of scrimmage. That penalty really hurt us. They didn’t even throw the flag until the Ravens defense whined for 5 minutes about it. Then they missed the call on the Ravens Defensive guy who punched Priouleau in the head. And Sharper DID NOT hit that player out of bounds. That was a good clean hit. And they also missed a couple obvious pass interference calls on the Ravens defense. It was a terribly called game by the refs.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 20, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong, the defense played atrocious today, but I sinply can’t pin the blame entirely on them when the offensive playcalling is THAT one dimensional. And it has been for much of the season. Believe me, I call them out on it practically every week.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Well Said CP
We’ve made way too many mistakes on offense. I think we had 4 or 5 TD’s called back from dumb penalties. Too many penalties. Throwing short passes into double coverage. 3rd down conversions. We’ve shot ourselves in the foot this season.
Missed chip shot vs Atlanta
Loosing to inferior teams known as: Arizona and Cleveland
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I agree
It’s not all defense. I don’t necessarily agree with your playcalling criticism, but whatever. Either way, our offense needs to score 30 each week and get a lead so we can play complementary defense.
by Stuart Carlton on Dec 19, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
A less goofy way for me to have put it
is that our offense needs to get a lead early so that we can play complementary defense.
(I guess it’s self-evident that we’ll probably win if we score 30…most teams would!)
by Stuart Carlton on Dec 19, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
It amazes me that everyone in the world can figure out we finally won the Super Bowl by having the 5th best rushing attack in football. Everyone what Payton that is.
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All I want for Christmas.....
Is one heck of a strong Defensive Tackle…
I'd rather an OLB
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Have a Merry Christmas
And a franchise LT. And a franchise RB. And a SS that can do a wee bit more than launch himself at the opponents’ ankles.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Everyone forgot a DE that knows what a “sack” is from a football standpoint. 4.5 sacks all year by our DE’s….that’s pathetic.
At this point I’ll say DE, OLB, DT, LT, RB in that order. I put RB last…cause let’s face it, Payton wouldn’t use him anyway.
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by jeff.l.b on Dec 20, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I’d love to have a sack monster like Clay Matthews
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
I think Charles Brown is a franchise LT
I just don’t understand why he’s inactive almost every game? franchise RB, yup, but we won it without one and without a franchise SS
Our biggest need is definitely:
1) OLB
2) DT
3) DE
2 & 3 is a coin flip but OLB is our biggest need, imo. Danny Clark and Scott Shanle just don’t fit the bill, maybe Casillas will but we need to DRAFT one in the first round
Taylor Gang or wear a #6 Miami Heat Jersey in Cleveland
Saints were playing flag football on defense it appeared--were in good position a lot of the time...
but Rice was running hard and straight ahead, and get well Ivory because he is the only one who runs with an attitude. Good teams make plays at the end, but the play calling was very bad there at the end.
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Well, we lost that battle but not the war.
As I suspected early last week, I was scared of this game and seems as though my fears were warranted. Since Atlanta won and the Bucs lost, we are no better or worse off so what is the next plan ? I feel that this loss will make us better from here on out. If not, it just was not to be this year. I am still proud of my Saints but something has been missing this year. We are a better team than last year but not as good so I’m at a loss for an explanation. Maybe some of you have an idea so make me feel better. I’m in a daze right now.
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The game was.....
Bad on both ends. I dont think we could put all the blame on the defense. We also see how important the small role Hargrove plays. Also watching Reggie Bush today just made me so angry!
by SaintsGirlnMS on Dec 19, 2010 6:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Also watching Reggie Bush today just made me so angry!
He’s made me angry for quite a long time. I’m hoping he will get traded next season. I’m sick and tired of him
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I have a feeling he’s going to wind up being released outright. No one in their right mind is going to want to pick up that salary, even if it’s just for one season.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
No one in their right mind is going to want to pick up that salary
Agreed! And when was the last time Reggie had a great game? The Cards playoff game. A long time ago.
The Reggie of 2006 has been dead a long time.
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You could go the other way around...
How much would Bush would be worth to you if he’d be to lead us to a Two Dat?
Just sayin’…
Repeat? Under construction...
I know...
…and I don’t think it will ever happen. But I know I’d pay indecent money if I could be able to see the future and get a confirmation he would. Heck, I’d even throw my left kidney in his contract!
Repeat? Under construction...
I'm with you there
I’m just sick n tired of these loss of 5 to 10 yards on screen passes
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LEAD us? When has he EVER led us? He’s been an intermediate cog, at best. I don’t think we paid anywhere close to $12M for Antowain Smith and he played a bigger role in New England winning the SB than Reggie has (or ever will) play in ours.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Hypothetical...
Let me rephrase. How much money would you be willing to pay a player whom, because you were able to travel in the future and get insight, would lead you to the Saint-Graal?
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by FrenchFreak on Dec 20, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
$7.9999999999999M.
Cut that chump.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
I’d rather find a desperate sucker who’d be willing to trade for him. He’d have to be an idiot…so maybe Snyder or Jones.
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$7.000000000001M
Isn’t it how they use to do it on the Bob Barker show?
Repeat? Under construction...
leading us to a Two Dat would be him playing consistently throughout the whole season – not gonna happen
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
The loss..
Yes today’s loss was a bit of a tough one but not too life threatening….Thank you Lions….. No it can’t be all blamed on the defense. Net yards rushing was 27 yards and third down efficiency was 38%. However, Ray Rice gained 153 yards rushing averaging 5.3 yards per attempt…..This is the main issue with our team I think. I do believe that this is the area the Saints must improve as this is the area that seems to hurt us most.
Next week, as you all know, we will be playing Atlanta in Atlanta. Michael Turner is averaging 4.3 yards per carry with 11 TD’s. Jason Snelling is averaging 4.1 yards per carry…..
correction
Ray Rice averaged 4.9 yards per carry not 5.3……
As painful as this loss is
At least it was to a good team, not the Cardinals or Browns! And it wasn’t a Ravens blowout. We were in the game till the very end, and I’m proud of our team. Now, all I want for Christmas is a healthy Chris Ivory.
by FloriDat on Dec 19, 2010 7:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You know somewhere inside the Tusk man
He is feeling happy that today showed there is a significant difference in our run game when he is gone.
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by SarahT on Dec 19, 2010 8:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think Ivory would have made much of a difference.
I love Ivory and think he is a great runner. But Pierre isn’t too shabby either in case you forgot. The problem isn’t that Ivory wasn’t playing, it’s that Payton didn’t call running plays. Hell, even when Ivory is getting over 7 yds per carry average he doesn’t call that many running plays. He’s sucked at it all year. We have the talent to run the ball, but the head coach just doesn’t have the will to establish it. Payton lost this game.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 20, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
true dat
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Reggie Bush
Reggie is not worth 8 million. He’s just sucks; pain and simple. Trade him if we can and take our loses. Give the money to Lance, Pierre’s and Ivory.
you’re so right but on the other hand if he went to a new team and was stellar I’d be even more pissed
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Thomas still looked hurt...
Because he can’t be that stupid, I doubt Payton would sent Bush up the middle and expect a different result that what we’ve all seen from No. 25 since day one if PT was full-go. Add to the mix Julius Jones’ lack of sparks and it’s pretty easy to understand why we ended up with a ridiculous 1 to 3 run/pass ratio. Even if I think the kid won’t last for long because of his style of running, Ivory may nevertheless have proven that we could use a BIG upgrade at RB. Pardonnes-moi Pierre…
Not a die-hard fan of TOP but, against a team like the Raven, I believe it’s as essential as field position. Today, we had neither. That’s how a QB who goes 10 for 20 with 172 yards will beat us…
Since Porter is unpredictable and Greer is a shadow of himself since the beginning of the season, may I add a CB on the “to-fix” list?
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may I add a CB on the "to-fix" list?
You sure can. Where the hell has he been all season? Our secondary been sucking lately. It would be nice if the cornerbacks would turn their eyes on the ball when the receiver is about to catch a long one.
Malcolm Jenkins can’t do this alone every week.
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Porter has played well, for the most part. I think he’s made excellent strides in run support this season.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Agreed. Also people need to quit talking about moving Jenks to corner and Sharper to safety if Greer is out. The old man is done.
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I have the flu
This is the first game I have missed in over a year. I guess I expected to wake up and hear the Saints beat the Ravens. I am really glad I didn’t make my sick as all hell a** drive up to BWW to see them play like horse manure.
Maybe they needed this before facing the Falcons? Or could it leave them feeling unconfident? Hopefully I will be watching the next game in NOLA with my parents if my dog’s prognosis turns out okay and will celebrate with fellow fans in a well deserved victory against the dirty birds.
Barf on birds today!
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by SarahT on Dec 19, 2010 8:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I am really glad I didn’t make my sick as all hell a** drive up to BWW to see them play like horse manure.
And they sure did Sarah T. Horse Manure is putting it mildly. It was horrific. 3rd down on offense killed us. We have no run defense. We shot ourselves in the foot. When we tied the game and couldn’t score again with all those offensive weapons
Disgusting!
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For once, I'm with CP.
The refusal to consistently run the football was the reason the Saints lost this game. Well, that, and Ray Rice waltzing through the Saints D.
But…I think that missing Ivory and David Thomas (their blocking TE/H-B/sometimes FB) played a major role.
And so sorry, but Reggie Bush is NOT a tailback…he’s a glorified third-down receiver that can make plays in the open space, but simply can’t run between the tackles .
Don’t get me wrong, Baltimore is one of the best rushing D’s in the NFL, and there were some weaknesses in the Raven secondary that I assume that Payton attempted to exploit. But, still, in cold weather games in December outdoors, you got to have the hammer to go with the surgeon’s knife, if only to spin the clock and keep your D fresh.
Plus…a decent running game sets up the deep pass…which was also duly absent today.
Indoors or in fair weather, this offense can beat anybody. But, when they inevitably have to go to Chicago or Philly, they better have Ivory ready and probably bring back Ladell Betts, or they will be in a world of trouble. Drew Brees is a MAN, but even he can’t win games by himself.
Anthony
“and probably bring back Ladell Betts”
Project Lazarus request denied. He’s on IR.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Plus he sucked.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
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Have a Merry Christmas
Drew Brees is a MAN, but even he can’t win games by himself.
He looked exhausted at the post game conference earlier. The other guys need to step up and stop dropping passes he throws their way. and we need to run the ball more.
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kinda like Peyton Manning huh
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Also...
..did you notice that when they called off the blitzes and went to a four-man DL rush with zone coverage, they managed to actually slow down the Raven offense?? Maybe it’s not a good idea to bring the house every time and go for the strip-and-rip, G-Will?? Amazing what good tackling and fundamentals does a team, right??
Anthony
is it me or am I the only one that would rather see P Rob active over Leigh Torrence?
I am not sure what happened to Greer- I was watching in a bar without audio, but I think we would have had a better chance with P Rob playing than Torrence. P Rob is more physical. When we had Gree/Porter injuries earlier in the season, PRob started- was he inured today and that’s why he was inactive?
Anyone know if Greer is injured?
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Haven't heard of anything on Greers status
I know it has something to do with his knee.
Can we at least for once have an injury free roster
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Playioff scenario??
With Tampa Bay and the Giants losing, are the Saints locked in a playoff slot yet??
what
palyoffs playoffs your talking about playoffs
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 19, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
I will be one pissed off Saints fan!
If we end up 10-6 and not making the playoffs!
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LOL
You forgot “We couldn’t do diddley-poo”.
Gee, but this is one time -only one time - I miss Jim Mora. The Senior, NOT his son.
well
We couldn’t run the ball we couldnt catch the ball with a few exceptions other then that our offense was clicking on all cyclinders
On defense we had no answer for them they moved the ball at will other then that another outstanding performance by our D
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 19, 2010 8:18 PM CST reply actions
BTW
every time I watch the Patriots, it seems Rob Ninkovoch plays well. We should have hung onto him. He could have helped our pass rush and depth.
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Falcons fan here
I knew you guys were gonna loose , but hey it was a good hard fought game and will be enjoying our rematch Monday. Hope the best of everything.
"I knew you guys were gonna loose"
The only thing for certain is you don’t know how to speell.
“Hope the best of everything” – kiss my black and gold ass.
Wow is someone butt hurt much that they lost?
You take it that seriously? Yah and a fuck you to my luck to huh?
lemme guess who dat right?
Let's not forget
In an alternate universe where offensive pass interference exists, Atlanta lost to Baltimore too.
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by VAsaintsfan on Dec 19, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Hehe
Week 15 matchup: Ravens
Week 15 motto: My right nut for no Drew Brees interceptions
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Only because of bad refs
Roddy White admitted he pushed off. If the ref had done his job, the go ahead TD would have been called back and ATL would have been backed up 15 yards to the Baltimore 48 yard line with 20 seconds remaining and losing by 1 point. But like I said, we live in a universe where offensive pass interference doesn’t exist, no matter how blatant it was, and that’s why Atlanta was allowed to score.
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by VAsaintsfan on Dec 20, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
If Colston caught that pass late in the game on 4th down the whole perspective might have been different.
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3rd and eight avtually
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On the good side, though...
It’s not as if they lost to Washington or Minnesota. This is still a viable and dangerous playoff team if they get there.
They should kill whomever gets the NFC West title, even at home..and if they face Atlanta, it’s still an even shot. If they face Chicago, with their offense problems next, then they still have a even chance at worst to make it to the finals…and against MVick, anything could happen..
If they still take care of the business against the Dirty Birds next Monday, then they may even be able to rest their starters for Tampa Bay…which would be a nice change.
Anthony
Well, for one thing
We can’t allow Michael Turner to rush over 200 yds like last time. We can’t drop catchable balls. We need to run the ball effectively.
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*Dree Brees play action pass* OH AND ITS INTERCEPTED BY BRENT GRIMES
man i love that replay. guy is like a monkey
Sick play by Grimes. His air time would’ve made Spud Webb blush.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
It’s almost like you were watching it in slow motion and couldn’t believe he kept going up and up to catch the ball. Hell of a play.
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Dree Brees play action pass OH AND ITS INTERCEPTED BY BRENT GRIMES
I remember that game quite well. We won 35-27 on Monday Night.
And it’s Drew, not Dree
Man I loved that game
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Sharper a little different this season
Now it’s Malcolm Jenkins…a younger version of Sharper. He’s played well. It’s our run defense that’s weak as hell this season
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Well, we were down 14 points in the blink of an eye
So I can understand the skewed rush/pass ratio. After all, we were on our heels playing catch up most of the game. We weren’t going to move down the field down by 14 with 2 minutes before the half by running the ball.
The reason we were on our heels all game is because one player singlehandedly embarrassed us today for 233 yards and too many TDs. We couldn’t stop Rice rushing (153 yds ) nor could we stop him receiving. The defense was completely gashed. In a perfect scenario, we would control the clock and every drive would end in seven points (see Baltimore’s stat sheet). But, we were never in many good situations to run, and when we did it was ineffective. The skew in run/pass wasn’t the reason we lost, it was more a product of what happens when the other team jumps out to an early lead, dictates the game, and makes you abandon a balanced game plan just to keep up.
(C-P, please spare me your patented run/TOP lesson. It’s well documented.)
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by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 19, 2010 9:04 PM CST reply actions
WTF guys!!!!!
I thought we were gonna have a good race to the finish. Snap out of it! Now next week don’t mean $hit for us. Where’s the old Saints at?
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 19, 2010 9:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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by Jricky70 on Dec 19, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How is that trolling?
I was really wanting next week to mean more. Don’t be so uber sensitive. I wasn’t bragging or being an ass. Now I’m not buying a ticket to the game that’s all.
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 19, 2010 10:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yea gonna have to agree.
Next week’s game is meaningless now. It won’t be the most exciting Saints-Falcons game since ever. Now it’s another Saints-Falcons game, except both teams may end up resting starters as they will both have the playoffs wrapped up. Freakin Ravens. Ruined everyone’s hopes and dreams.
Week 15 matchup: Ravens
Week 15 motto: My right nut for no Drew Brees interceptions
Have a Merry Christmas
How is it meaningless?
We lose…we could potentially not make the playoffs. We have to win one of the next two to guarantee a spot and the TB game isn’t a gimme in the least.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Too over dramatic.
It just lost a lot more meaning compared to if we didn’t lose. Plus, I thought all that had to happen was a loss by TB, Giants, or Green Bay would seal it up for us?
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
No, we need a loss by TB AND GB to seal it for us. Or two losses by the Giants. TB has a cakewalk game and then us. GB has a tough game against the Giants but Rodgers will be back. It’s not too over dramatic…we can VERY easily not make the playoffs still.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Sorry, I meant that my statement was too overdramatic.
Thanks for the playoff information, I knew it was something like that.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
Did I miss something?
Did Atlanta already clinch home field advantage?
Did we already clinch a playoff spot?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 20, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry...
Disagree.
A game against the Saints is never meaningless.
Plus, if we lose to the Saints and Carolina (hey…anything’s possible…right…right…look what happened to the Packers against the Lions…or the Patriots and Saints against the Browns, etc.) and the Saints win out, we lose the NFC South.
If we beat the Saints, we clinch not only the NFC South but also home field throughout the playoffs. We can then sit everyone against the Panthers. I don’t want Turner, White, Ryan, etc. playing in Week 17.
So the game is far from meaningless. I am looking for the dome to be rockin’, and I expect that both the Saints and Falcons will be playing their asses off.
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
Really??? The panthers?
Plus even if we tie the saints we still hold the tiebreaker because of our record against like opponents. We beat browns, cardinals and Ravens. They have beaten Steelers. It’s in the bag bro. You are correct about home field but even those odds our in extremely in our favor even if we lose.
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 19, 2010 11:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry about grammar and spelling I'm tired.
Dueces
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 19, 2010 11:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you rest starters against the Panthers
You may lose (although it’s sad you may still slaughter them) and if we win out, we will tie you guys and hold the better division record so we would win the tiebreaker. So if we win, you lose the chance to rest starters.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
Your correct but if you lose who else is in the hunt for the wildcats?
You guys still gotta play the Bucs? Tough couple of games…. I’m sure you win but that’s a bummer. Your right we need a win so we can rest for 2 weeks after.
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 20, 2010 12:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you meant wildcards then Giants, Bucs, and Packers
If you meant wildcats, Dolphins, Jets, and some college teams. :-).
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
Yeah wildcard my iPhone does what it wants to.
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 20, 2010 8:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I completely understand.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
kinda like we did last season (resting starters against the Panthers)
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
i think you are mistaken about the tie- if we tie you that means we have a 5-1 divisional record vs your 4-2
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Panthers have nothing to lose so they are a threat
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 20, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Let’s put this in perspective. Last season, I made Miami hotel reservations in Week 10. This season, I didn’t pay my playoff ticket invoice by Friday’s deadline. Both were long shots. I just don’t have any faith whatsoever that this one will come to fruition. If by some miraculous stroke of luck they either win the division or host the NFC championship game as a 5th seed, I’m sure I won’t be the only season ticket holder scrambling for a ticket.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
LMAO!!!!!
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by SBookerSaintsFan on Dec 19, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
I do agree with Dave
It’s time let someone else return punts. Let it be anybody else other than Reggie until Roby comes back
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by SBookerSaintsFan on Dec 19, 2010 10:06 PM CST reply actions
contrary to what ball hawk says, if we win out and Atlanta loses 2, we win division (and maybe top seed) .
just to clarify- not very likely, but could happen.
Regarding yesterday- we need to run the ball- that’s obvious. More screens. And, let’s not just give a back-any RB – three carries and then replace him. A RB has to get rhythm etc and needs carries. We need more screen passes too- we under utilize them I think without going back over the film- but I think we should run 5-8 per game.
Also- skip Leigh Torrence on the active list and go with either PRob or Usama Young. Torrence doesn’t do it for me especially vs. physical receivers such as Boldin or Maon.
Anyone notice Stallworth not even active yesterday? Boy – that guy has so much talent but he’s such an underperformer. I’ll bet he was fine with collecting his paycheck for just kicking back and doing nothing.
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Reading the Saints comments today, they all sounded like politicians. " we played well enoght to win." yadayada yada,
Do the Saints REALLY want another SB ring? I mean DO THEY REALLY? Payton acts very disinterested because he knows his job and his assts jobs are secure. Sharper is NO where near what he was last year, the lingering effects of micro surgery. ANd Bush, he’s still scared he might get hit. I can’t tell you how much yardage was lost yesterday because he was runing side to side. If he runs straight up the gut, I guarantee he gets 3 or 4 more yards. Intead of losng 3-4..
This team will go into Atalnta with the same attitude,"well if we don’t win, OH WELL. We’ve already been to the big dance, we have a ring. Why should we go thru all this to get another one? I man c’mon guys, do we really want to have win and have all that extra spending money, ON TOP of our salary? Do we want to have to endure another parade and love from the fans? NAHHHHH.
Let’s fold up our tent and let the dirty birds have their moment in the sun. I’m tired and I wanna go home. Reggie be running east n west still . he tired. We can’t stop the run. We let a guy like ray rice who had not had a game over 30 yds till we let him rip us apaart. Then we send julius jones out there to get neg yardage . We don’t even try to establish a running ame of our own. Our offensive line is just . OFFENSIVE. Poor Drew was running for his life all day. If he’d had time to throw, we win. If marcus can catch we might win. Sean , why not slide malcolm over to CB instead of preloux and let sharper fill that post? I mean when jabari went down. We play like this in atlanta next monday and don’t worry bout the SB. That’ll mean you guys will have to win 4 staright on the road. Can you do it? OF COURSE YOU CAN. Do you want to do it? I dunno, you tell me.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW WE LOST TO THE CARDS AND BROWNS? I AM STILL HAVING A TOUGH TIME DEALING WITH THAT.
AND HOW DO YOU MISS A FREAKING 20 YARD FIELD GOAL. THINK ABOUT IT A SECOND. YESTERDAY REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR FIRST LOSS OF THE SEASON. i KNOW I NEED TO MOVE ON BUT TO LOSE TO TWO SUCH HORRIBLE TEAMS AND REALIZE THAT IS THE REASON THAT WE ARE IN THE SHAPE WE ARE MAKES ME SICK.
THE STINKIN BIRDS ACTED LIKE THEY HAD WON THE SB WHEN WE HANDED THEM THAT GAME ON A PLATTER THIRD GAME OF THE SEASON.
I’M NO SO SURE NOW WE CAN WIN THIS REMATCH. IF WE CAN’T STOP RAY RICE, THEN WE SURE AS HECK AIN’T GOING TO EVEN STOP THE FALCON RUNNERS. wHAT, WE GONNA ALL OF A SUDDEN FIND A RUN DEFENSE THIS WEEK? i DON’T KNOW WHAT GOOFY TEAM WOULD CONSIDER GREGG WILLIAMS AS A HEAD COACH RIGHT NOW. hE AINT SHOWN ME MUCH. A WINNER IS CONSISTENT. a WINNER IS HUNGRY FOR MORE. A WINNER COMES BACK HUNGRIER AND STRONGER THAN THE YEAR BEFORE. THAT IS NOT A PICTURE OF THE SAINTS RIGHT NOW , JUST THE OPPOSITE. IF YOU READ THE PLAYERS COMMENTS TODAY, THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY IT. TELL EM WHAT THEY EXPECT TO HEAR. IF WE BEAT THE DIRTY BIRDS IT’LL BE A FREAKING MIRACLE. AND I AIN’T SO SURE GOD HAS THE SAINTS ON HIS FANTASY LIST ANYMORE. WE ARE NOT GETTING THE SAME CALLS WE GOT LAST YEAR. BALL AIN’T BOUNCING OUR WAY. JUST THE OPPOSITE FOR THE BIRDS. YEAH RODDY WHITE PUSHED OFF AGAINST RAVENS WHEN THEY PLAYED THEM IN ATLANTA. UMP WAS LOOKING RIGHT AT WHITE PUSHING OFF. BET IT’S A DIFFERENT STORY IN BALTIMORE. PLEASE SOMEBODY , ANYBODY, BURST THE DIRTY BIRDS BUBBLE. ANY OTHER NFC TEAM IN THE SB BUT THEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE LOST
BUT WHY ARE WE SCREAMING AGAIN?
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
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Didn't read all the comments above but as far as Reggie
I didn’t think he ran side to side too much. On one outside pass he cut one unnecasarily to the side. And on one negative run he was going to get tackled for a loss anyway so who cares if he loses a few more trying to make it back up, it worked last game. Also, he had a better punt return this game.
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