Game Ball of the Week: Saints Defeat Falcons 17-14 on Monday Night Football
by Dave Cariello on Dec 27, 2010 10:57 PM CST
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I'm changing it up a bit this week and letting you guys choose the winner of our Sprint Game Ball of the Week right on the spot and right after the game.
Here are all of your options to choose from for this weeks game ball:
- Robert Meachem - 10 catches for 101 yards
- Pierre Thomas - 19 carries for 63 yards, 7 catches for 39 yards, 1 TD
- Drew Brees - 35/49, 302 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT
- Will Smith - 3 tackles, 1 sack, good pressure all night
- Jonathan Vilma - 5 tackles, fumble recovery
- The entire Saints defense
Use this thread for all your post-game celebration as well.
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RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
WHEW!
That trip to the bathroom was SWEEEEET.
Just ’Nother Dog is putting away his umbrella!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 10:59 PM CST reply actions
next time go at 1/2 time LOL
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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 27, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
And miss the commentators talk about Fav-rah?
Oh, Heeeeell No!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Pierre's ypc wasn't special, but he got the yards he needed when he needed them.
And Jimmy Graham should probably be in that poll.
true but he did rush for that TD
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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 27, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
you misunderstand
I voted for Pierre because he got the yards he needed. Yeah, he got stuffed a few times, but when the chips were down, he made it happen. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen him run with more determination that he did on the Saints first TD drive.
For what, a conditional fourth round pick we'd never get? He's worth practically nothing.
Restructure his salary or cut the chump.
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
cut him is fine with me
I’m just saying if I had to choose between the two I’m taking pierre
by Pathomaniac on Dec 27, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think a new contract is in order
Think about the screen pass to Reggie at the end of the 2nd quarter. Two different pulling linemen missed their blocks, and Reggie got swarmed by 9 Falcons defenders. Consider that for a moment. Nine different defenders decided that Reggie was so dangerous that they abandoned their coverage to make sure he got tackled. Reggie didn’t have a huge game numbers-wise tonight, but he definitely had a big impact on the game.
I grow weary of this argument.
If you are correct, Payton should convert Reggie to wideout and let the most dynamic, game-breaking and explosive player get quadruple-teamed all night. Our entire receiving corps (minus Reginald) will have 1,500 yards and ten touchdowns a piece per season!
He’s the most expensive decoy in the history of the NFL. He’s a bust. He’s a chump. And even if he wasn’t (he is) he would have gotten more than one touch tonight (a rush that went no where).
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
Reggie
he had five touches tonight, averaging 4.0 yards per play (better than Pierre’s 3.9)
his athleticism makes him dangerous in any position he plays
he does play wideout on many plays
he gets payed an inordinate amount of money compared to his production
but his contract is based on his draft position, not level of production.
Now that his rookie contract is about to expire, it’s time to give him the money he actually deserves, less than what he got for the 2nd overall pick in 2006, but substantial nonetheless – probably in the neighborhood of 4-5 million per year.
The big question is whether another team will offer him a gargantuan contract in free agency. It’s very possible, and hopefully the Saints will offer enough to be compensated well if he leaves.
Why would they be compensated at all, if he left in free agency?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Compensatory picks. If we don’t cut him we’d likely get a 3rd based on his potentially insane contract.
I don’t see any insane contracts in his future.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
I'm not sure what Reggie's status will be in 2011
but under the current rules of RFA’s, the other offering team has to compensate the Saints with a draft pick based on the Saints offer. There’s some formula for the compensation based (I think) on the guy’s original contract and draft position and “owning” team’s offer. So, for instance, Philly was able to sign Mike Bell without any compensation to the Saints because the Saints didn’t offer him enough to match his original draft contract. Or something like that.
I’m assuming that Reggie is a restricted free agent in 2011 (which I’m pretty sure he would be under current rules, which extended the RFA period during the uncapped season). If he’s not, then you’re right, there would be zero compensation to the Saints regardless of what they offered him.
“I’m assuming that Reggie is a restricted free agent in 2011”
He’s not. He’s still under contract for 2011, to the tune of $11M. By teh time 2012 rolls around he’ll be an UFA, as he will have accrued 6 years in the league. The only way he would have been a RFA for the Saints, is if he had signed a rookie contract <6 years, or if that 6th year was somehow voidable. Unfortunately, neither are the case.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Rams
I think the best fit for Reggie is probably with the Rams. They need that kind of explosive talent on offense, and lined up next to Jackson he would be a nightmare for most defenses. The Saints just need to make sure they offer him enough as a free agent that they get good compensation in return should another team sign him away.
I don't get how he gets so much criticism
yet he doesn’t get the ball. What he got one carry? I just don’t get it. He did fine when he got it. I don’t think they’ll keep him. I really don’t see him being the “golden boy” that people claim he is, in regards to Sean Payton. Maybe it’s me but I think that Payton doesn’t trust him (ball security, negative yardage?). But then again, everybody thought that over the summer and Payton quickly retorted that Bush is not going anywhere.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
I'm afraid Reggie has more confidence than talent, expecially in the professional arena
and that can be costly. Notice how after almost every play he pounds the ball and seems frustrated. His mind is doing it but professional defenders are keeping his body in check.
Kind of like Tiger Woods in shoulder pads.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 28, 2010 3:08 AM CST up reply actions
completely disagree with that
Despite his stats over several years now, he is still consistently one of the most athletic and talented players on the field. His problem is one of use, or rather the lack of it. He’s not used often enough, which means that when he is on the field, everyone knows to key on him. If he were used for 30-40 plays per game, instead of 15 or so, defenses wouldn’t be able to track him so consistently.
you're right
No RB in the current Saints offense is going to have great numbers. It’s the nature of Payton’s system. I think in some sense it works against Reggie, because everyone on the defense knows that when he’s in the huddle, they need to keep track of him. Look at the screen plays tonight. When Pierre was thrown a screen pass, there were typically 2 or 3 Falcons in on the play. When Reggie was thrown a screen, there were typically 6 or more defenders there. Is that disrespect for Pierre, or poor performance by Reggie?
That’s why I think he might do better with a team like the Rams, where defenses would have to pay attention to him every single down, as opposed to the situational plays when he’s relevant with the Saints. The Saints offense is built around Drew and a stable of RBs that can get a few yards at a time. Reggie isn’t that kind of RB. If he’s only on the field 10-15 plays/game, everyone in the building knows they have to cover him tightly when he’s there. If he’s on a team that uses him 30+ plays/game, though, I think he’ll truly flourish.
yeah, question is will he be gone?
If I were him, I wouldn’t be satisfied with my career at this point. You can see the fire in him too, just like the hater said, when he gets up he’s frustrated. Humble dude though, in my opinion, haven’t heard a peep from him about it.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
I have been frustrated just like everybody else with the fumbles...
and maybe he should stay away from punt returns, but I still think he has a lot of potential in the offense with all the match up problems he presents to opposing defenses/they have to account for him not to mention when he has run the ball this year, a lot of the time he ran straight ahead without all the dancing. It was ashamed he got injured—I hope the Saints keep him around and start to use him more this year.
You are right in the fact that he does not complain even though he is frustrated. When it looked like he was going to be drafted by the Saints, I thought he might pull the Deon Sanders, “If Detroit is even thinking about me, they better start to think about putting me on lay-away….” kind of thing when he was coming out of college, but Reggie never did that either.
"...When I get to Brownsville I'm going to sit down in the middle of the street, and that will be the end of the line...I'm going to Brownsville exactly because I've got no reason to go there. Anybody ask me why Brownsville—there's no f****** answer...Brownsville. I picture a little booth at the edge of town with a bored-looking women sitting on it...You walk down Main Street...You walk into the Saloon, which is cool and dark and order a Bourbon."
Tom Piazza from his short story "Brownsville"
I don't see any reason for him to go away next year
CP correctly pointed out above that he’s under his rookie contract for another year. He can’t choose to leave yet, and it would be up to the Saints to trade him. The Saints can probably hold on to him for another year with the same trade value in the following offseason that they would get this offseason. Is the extra money in cap space worth something? I don’t see it. I think he’s here for another year at least.
He's not a chump
He was just vastly over hyped and fragile. He’s a good player. Not excellent, but good. He’s overpaid. He has 29 TDs in 59 games. He has a career 3.9 yards per carry average and 7.2 yards per catch average. The problem is that when he does nothing he gets crucified for it, and when he does something, uninformed fans and the media act like he’s the second coming of Christ. All these years in the league, and he can’t shake off the high expectations from the draft. It’s sad that he’s such a polarizing figure. His salary needs to come back in line with his production and people should stop viewing him as some sort of superman (or on the opposite end a useless chump) and look at him for what he is; a good situational football player.
Reggie gets better with playing time
At the beginning of the season he started out great. Most everybody was on the Reggie bandwagon. But he always has been slow to come back from injury. Jimbo03 was right, Reggie is a good situational football player. But he gets better with time, so hopefully by the playoffs we’ll be seeing some great play from Reggie. Go Reggie.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 28, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
ok lets just say the Cats beat the birds & we beat the buc's we are now tied who get homefield advantage?
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better division record 5-1 (saints) vs 4-2 falcons
bud don’t hold your breath
by Pathomaniac on Dec 27, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
just asking but the cat's did beat the hawks last week so who knows
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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 27, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
and the Cards
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Dec 28, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
So many ways that could have been avoided!
But I wont bring them up right now!
What in the HELL just happened!?
by GESWhoseBack on Dec 27, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
in the absurdly unlikely event the Saints win and Falcons lose next week
The Saints will win the NFC South, and have the #1 seed in the playoffs. The problem with this scenario is that because that remote possibility exists, the Saints can’t really afford to rest their starters before the playoffs. The Falcons won’t either, but they get a bye week to rest, whereas the Saints will have to travel for a playoff game the following week.
ty HB finally an answer without the sarcasm
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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 27, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, if the Saints do get the #1 seed...
…they will get a first-round bye.
Problem is, they probably won’t rest their starters next week, even with Tampa Bay eliminated; they have too many memories of last year. Plus, the Bucs are much better now then they were last year, too..and probably will be playing all out as if this is their “Super Bowl”.
More than likely, though, finish Tampa, then get ready for either Seattle or St. Louis.
Anthony
Saints won’t rest next week since there’s a possibility of getting the #1 seed, and Tampa will play hard. Too bad the Saints aren’t playing the late game so they could see how the Panthers fare against ATL. Heh. Let’s all start rooting for St. Louis. If we don’t end up getting the #1 seed, I’d much rather take a jaunt to the Lou and play in their dome than fly all the way across the country to play at that goofy Seahawk field. We handed that team their butt when they came to see us, but the playoffs are a whole different animal and those fans would be loud, despite the fact they know damn well their team doesn’t even deserve to be in the playoffs.
but Bradford is way better than Whitehurst
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by lovingmma25 on Dec 28, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Bradford doesn't matter
neither do Seahawks. They both suck. We will beat either one. I say pull for St. Louis so we have less travel time. Seattle is a long distance to travel and gives us less rest and less prep time after we beat them. It would be better to travel to St. Louis.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 28, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
not to mention it's in a dome
which can make a huge difference
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Dec 28, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
Instead of voting, can I take the game ball and bludgeon our offensive line into a collective coma?
Oh well, I pick the defense. Holding the Falcons to one offensive touchdown is amazing.
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
Thanks for the respect...
Y’alls D whipped our O pretty dam good. Our D did a good number on yours too, but the difference was Brees exp. over Ryan.
The Falcons have one of the best d-lines in the league.
I hate it. I don’t understand it either. They play with an energy and intensity way above their overall talent level every week.
So, you still think Matty should be in the same class as Drew? 71% vs 51%?
Drew would have taken those 3 1/2 minutes left in the 4th and scored the winning TD Ryan is no Drew Brees
You seem pretty sure of that
He might’ve also thrown a pick.
Brees is better than Ryan, but when we start comparing players based on hypotheticals, we’re doing them a disservice.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 28, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Got to give it to the entire D.
With all respect to PT, who came up big.
But…other than that one drive by Atlanta riddled by penalties, they just plain STUFFED the Falcons.
And in fact, were it not for Drew playing wifferball and giving up a free touchdown, it wouldn’t have been even that close.
Now…perhaps we can inject some spine into the Panthers and they can actually show up next week??
Anthony
Thanks again to Dave for handling the live stream
while juggling a cat!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:09 PM CST reply actions
hey whatever happened with that cat?
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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 27, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
This is Dave trying to talk her down -
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Happy man!!
Don’t give a damn about the RB contract. Just feed PT!!
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I have to handle it to my new manlove.
Pierre.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
PIERRE DA MAN!!!
We don’t win that game without Pierre. He was instrumental on that last TD drive and running the clock out in the last few minutes. I say RUN THE DAMN BALL. Give it to Pierre or Ivory, but RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 28, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
But Drew threw far more.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
yeah but thought it was funny that they both blew the same amount
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by N_O_1saintfan on Dec 27, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Dave C. come to find out my sister knows you pretty well.
Steph Durell. Small world huh? Im a falcon shes a trator but I guess that makes us friends. anyway Good game guys. I kind of figured it was gonna end this way. we will see yall again.
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WHAT!?!?!?
Holy crap!! Stephenie is your sister!?
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by Dave Cariello on Dec 27, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. Just found out she knew you tonight.
She said she knew this guy named Dave who started a blog for the saints. I said is his name Dave C? And here we are. She then told my 3 yr old to ask me “who dat?”. I told her that was a BAD BAD word and to never, ever say that again. She said OK daddy. Cheers sir.
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 28, 2010 12:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
My babies are ATL through and through sir.
My sister is just ignorant, that’s all. She didn’t realize the level of her offense til today. She gets it now.
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by Ball Hawk on Dec 28, 2010 12:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Voted D
Dunbar made some big plays 1st half and Smith was a nuisance all game.
Not forgetting the goal line strip of Turner.
Great game regardless of the result those Falcons played some pretty good D too.
That could`ve been me,a useless knome fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.
That was our (Falcons) best defensive game all year.
Too bad y’all whipped our O so much it ruined their coming out party.
hoping they keep Ivory out next week, we will need him for playoff's
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watching Sean's press conference, man our guys are loud in the background
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LOL I Know they acting a fool!!
What in the HELL just happened!?
by GESWhoseBack on Dec 27, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Two words: Rivalry win.
[enter some witty remark here]
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 27, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Gosh
I’d hate to see what would happen to the falcons if their opponent played 60 minutes of mistake-free football. (secretly I’d love it)
I killed my brother... I killed yours too. 9/26/10
I'd love to see what would happen to the Saints if their opponents did the same
Never going to happen. We bring out the worst in one another.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 27, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
ganging up. See yall in the playoffs
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by DwideSchrude on Dec 27, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
I love Vilma.
I’m loving too many men tonight.
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
Jeff Charleston
deserves player of the game, imo. His strip ultimately took the game-tying points off the board. Quite possibly the game-losing points.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
good call
I’m still not sure I believe that stat that Tirico was touting about the Saints having not stopped a team from scoring on the 1 yard line for 12 years. Seems like they did that at least once last year. I guess it was never on the one yard line?
you're probably thinking of this series of plays against Pittsburgh
3-4-NO 12 (11:43) (Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass short middle to 82-A.Randle El for 12 yards, TOUCHDOWN. New Orleans challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass short middle to 82-A.Randle El to NO 1 for 11 yards (24-L.Torrence). Pass 8, YAC 3
1-1-NO 1 (11:21) 33-I.Redman left guard to NO 2 for -1 yards (98-S.Ellis, 58-S.Shanle).
2-2-NO 2 (10:41) 34-R.Mendenhall right tackle to NO 1 for 1 yard (41-R.Harper).
3-1-NO 1 (9:58) 34-R.Mendenhall right tackle to NO 1 for no gain (97-J.Charleston, 51-J.Vilma).
4-1-NO 1 (9:12) 3-J.Reed 19 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-60-G.Warren, Holder-9-D.Sepulveda.
We held them out of the end zone following the reversal, but not scoreless.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
no - more last year
Seems like there were a couple of times the Saints D had to make a stop on the one yard line, but I guess it was probably a little farther away. Too tired and drunk to go look it up now!
I was thinking about plays like Sharper intercepting Sanchez last year.
But they were closer to the 20 than the 1. Either way, they’ve had one of the best red zone defenses for two years straight. I love that!
They did that several times earlier this season
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by SarahT on Dec 28, 2010 12:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Scoreless? I don’t recall that. The last goal line stance I remember vividly was in 1987 against the Steelers to clinch their first ever playoff berth. I’m sure it’s happened since in less meaningful games. They were held scoreless themselves in the SB, when Mike Bell lost his footing.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
honestly though, I think the whole defense deserves credit
Charleston doesn’t get in there without the rest of the D playing it properly, and the whole night they were playing more inspired than I’ve seen since the Giants game last year.
If that’s the case, Jenkins shouldn’t have been the runaway winner for POTW for the Dallas game. The whole defense played a part in Williams breaking free to set up that strip. Porter caused him to switch hands by racing up his non-blind spot. Eff all that. If nobody stands out over the course of the entire game, give it to the guy who actually caused the game-changing play.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Jenkins shouldn’t have been the runaway winner for POTW for the Dallas game
I don’t really disagree with that. That one play was incredible, but he was also pretty good over the whole game. Charleston really only had two or three good plays tonight. They were big though. But in terms of best Saints player tonight? Pierre came up with more plays at critical times than Jeff did.
Agreed.
And It’s not because of the manlove. I promise.
Week 17 matchup: Bucs
Week 17 motto: I have a manlove with Pierre.
Canal Street Chronicles-you know you want to
I say one thing!
I will be rooting for St. Louis next week cause if we have to go on the road in the playoffs I would much rather go to that cozy dome than outdoors in Seattle in Jan.
What in the HELL just happened!?
Amen. I’ll also be rooting for the 3rd seed over the 6th, as I’d rather face Atlanta again in the divisional round, than possibly play two outdoor playoff games (I view hosting the 6th seed as a pipe dream, even moreso than winning homefield advantage throughout).
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
really?
I think the Packers or Giants would have a pretty good shot at beating the Falcons in the playoffs, assuming whichever of them takes the 6th seed can get past the Bears. I think I understand where you’re coming from – the deeper the Saint go in the playoffs the better, assuming they don’t make it all the way. But this has already been a crazy year, and it’s going to continue to be so in the NFC. I don’t like a matchup between the Eagles and Saints in Philly in the divisional round, but I don’t really like a Saints/Falcons matchup there either.
I don't know about that
The Rams are actually a decent team this year, and despite the score in week 14, they played the Saints pretty tough. Hasselbeck looks to be done for the year, and with Whitehurst as their QB, I’d rather see the Saints play the Seahawks.
Rams may be better team
But not that much better that I would chose a cold possibly snowy game instead of a dome game. And Hasselback isnt out yet and I recall the Seahawks playing the Saints much tougher than the Rams.
What in the HELL just happened!?
by GESWhoseBack on Dec 28, 2010 2:08 AM CST up reply actions
So now we need, what, a 4 or 5 game win streak???
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:41 PM CST reply actions
We can rest Drew and any essentials if we want.
Carolina beating the Falcons?/snickers
Week 16 matchup: Falcons
Week 16 motto: BLACK PANTS MUST BE BURNED!!
Have a Merry Christmas
I am hoping we (Falcons) are a decent enough organization now...
That this loss will only help refocus the team, not make em fall apart. Like you know, the Giants.
A Carolina win over the birds
would be a better present than frankincense and myrrh!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
But not Gold!
What in the HELL just happened!?
by GESWhoseBack on Dec 27, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Any given Sun!
We always seem to have issues with Tampa Bay so we’ll see what that game brings. Hopefully Payton starts pulling starters at some point in that game.
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by SarahT on Dec 28, 2010 12:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree!
But what if it happens and we didnt play our starters! I would have a harder time living with that than I am living with that damn missed ot fg!
What in the HELL just happened!?
by GESWhoseBack on Dec 27, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
They’ll probably be keeping close tabs on the ATL-CAR game and pull starters at the first signs of futility. At least, that’s what I hope they do.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
The only real saving grace is that Carolina already locked up the first overall pick. Now they have nothing to lose by winning. And Clausen has every incentive to convince Jerry Richardson (and/or next year’s GM, assuming he’s already in-house) that they don’t need to spend that pick on a QB.
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Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
by coldpizza on Dec 28, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yalls punter...
had 1/2 his years on rolls after what seemed like shanked/short punts…give him kudos too. Our return guy let it bounce every time, only to see it bounce/roll 20 yards past him.
Thanks a bunch.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
that was some freaky stuff
Morstead is one of the best punters in the NFL. That he had two shanks in one game is crazy, and that he lucked out with the bounce on both is even crazier. Part of that is luck, part is due to his skill. Even without the roll, one of those shanks was still a 40 yard punt.
Yeah wtf was that?
Breesus Is My Homeboy
by SarahT on Dec 28, 2010 12:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
No MVP for Hartley, but solid props
Last Atlanta game, he blew the last three points we needed for a win, and we all gave him much-deserved crap for it. This time, he put up the first three — in a career-long FG — which we ALSO needed for a win. So now I give him some much-deserved praise.
by FloriDat on Dec 27, 2010 11:52 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
All I can say is
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 27, 2010 11:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Gruden would give it to Brees
WITH ICE CREAM AND JON ON TOP.
Quitter's People United Member #05
agreed lol
but idk if i could blame him for it
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Dec 28, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Calling out Dan Kelly
for referring to Heath Evans as one of the better blocking FBs in the NFL. The guy was absolutely atrocious all night and has contributed very little to the offense in any capacity all season. Journeyman trash. We need an upgrade there. Maybe Sobomehein (or whatever his name is) will pick up where he left off in training camp. Not that I think any more of him, it’s just a position that needs new blood and soon.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Bush was actually picking up blitzes more consistently than Evans, if that’s any indication of his worthlessness.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
Bush has always been good at pass protection
But yeah, Evans was a nightmare tonight in pass protection. I don’t think that’s normal for him though. Part of it was by design of the defense. Part of it was him just missing.
Evans’ strength is run blocking (at which he was decent tonight) and receiving out of the backfield. I saw a number of new plays from Payton tonight with Evans in the back field. That might have a little to do with it.
I disagree
that Evans strength is run blocking. He didn’t boost the Pats run game when he was with them, and he doesn’t seem to make much of a difference with ours. I don’t really see him opening up huge holes or anything. I think he’s an average at best blocker, and was viewed by Belichick, and is viewed by Payton, as a sneaky pass catcher. I’d love to see us draft or sign a true run blocking fullback. Our RBs seem to have to rely on determination alone to get the job done more often than not.
Devery Henderson really came through when we neded him to
Breesus Is My Homeboy
by SarahT on Dec 28, 2010 12:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I voted all of the above...
or at least that’s what I would have chosen. Great game.
Dorothy-"But how can you talk if you haven't got a brain?" Scarecrow- "I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking." -Wizard of Oz
Turner: 17 carries for 48 yards, overall defense gets the game ball--great win.
Great job PT, get well Tusk we need you also.
"...When I get to Brownsville I'm going to sit down in the middle of the street, and that will be the end of the line...I'm going to Brownsville exactly because I've got no reason to go there. Anybody ask me why Brownsville—there's no f****** answer...Brownsville. I picture a little booth at the edge of town with a bored-looking women sitting on it...You walk down Main Street...You walk into the Saloon, which is cool and dark and order a Bourbon."
Tom Piazza from his short story "Brownsville"
Damm I had to work
Didn’t to get to watch this one because I had to go in to work at 8. Have it recorded on the DVR but it was giving me a heart attack just following it on Game Trax. Am looking to forward to watching it tommorow because it sure looked like our D played their A-Game. Anyway that’s how I voted, for the hole D line. WHO DAT!!!
When I say WHO DAT U say TWO DAT!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 28, 2010 1:58 AM CST reply actions
Did anyone else notice
that on the fumble by McClure, Matt Ryan backed up, seemingly, out of fear?
Rog Smoove
He backed up because that's what you do at the snap of the ball.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
O I forgot about that...[sarcasm]
Come on Jeff, that goes without saying. What I was saying is that he didn’t react to the ball being “live” on the turf. He backed out and probably expected the “big guys” to fight for it. I don’t know if you went back and looked at it before you commented the way you did, but if you didn’t, please go back and look… http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010122700/2010/REG16/saints@falcons/watch?module=HP_cp2 …
Rog Smoove
Yeah he didn't react to the ball at all
He didn’t have a chance at getting to it unless he reacted really quick at the beginning
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Dec 28, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
I can say that I agree with that....
You’re right, he would’ve had to react quickly, but all I was saying is that (you said it too) he didn’t react at all.
Rog Smoove
I can’t in all honesty give the game ball to the entire defense. Porter is on defense and he had 2 costly PI calls on him that put them on the goal line. If not for the strip, then it might have been a different ball game. I know shoulda coulda woulda dont buy crap, but I have to lump that in with the defense.
I took the game ball away from Brees
after his first inexcusable pick 6. Then I gave it back to him when he made the tackle to pevent a second inexcusable, though not as dumbfounding as the first, pick 6.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
In Brees I trust
He was running for his life most of last night, so I actually will excuse the INTs. And that tackle was pretty dope. While the Falcons celebrated the pick six, all I could think was that they shouldn’t be so happy that they scored, because they have to give him the ball right back.
"He was running for his life most of last night, so I actually will excuse the INTs."
I agree and once again, the Saints could not run the ball consistently—PT had some good runs and made plays in the passing game, but the running game just was not there consistently either by design or ability to do so (seeing the Saints get stuffed a lot, it was the latter)—49 pass attempts to 24 rushing and Brees as you suggested looked like a matador most of the night avoiding unblocked/poorly blocked rushers.
"...When I get to Brownsville I'm going to sit down in the middle of the street, and that will be the end of the line...I'm going to Brownsville exactly because I've got no reason to go there. Anybody ask me why Brownsville—there's no f****** answer...Brownsville. I picture a little booth at the edge of town with a bored-looking women sitting on it...You walk down Main Street...You walk into the Saloon, which is cool and dark and order a Bourbon."
Tom Piazza from his short story "Brownsville"
Yet they DID break off several runs of 3.4+ yards, which is all you really need to move the chains. If not for Pierre’s RUSHING touchdown, the Saints don’t win. With as much heat as Brees was taking in the pocket when he DID pass (67% of the time), it wouldn’t surprise me at all, had we gotten shut out with an even heavier passing attack. Again, 67% isn’t where we need to be to move the ball consistently — tangible success on the ground nonwithstanding — but it’s at least a baby step in the right direction, compared to 74%+ against the Ravens (and in the elements at that).
Pre-reply to the … but, but, but … batted down throws, poor pass protection, dropped passes rebuttals: it all comes with passing the ball. Pierre didn’t fumble the ball away to Atlanta twice. Brees … in his own unique way of fumbling … did. Bush is a non-factor in the running game. Outside of salary justification, It baffles me as to why Julius Jones isn’t spelling Thomas. If we wind up playing Atlanta a third time, they’re not going to be looking to make a whole lot of changes on defense. Trust me when I say that they’re satisfied with holding our offense to 17 points. If anything, they’re going to be dialing up the heat on Brees even moreso. We DO NOT need to combat that with more empty backfield formations. We need to run the ball more often. Period. Even if we’re only averaging 2 ypc, 3rd and 6 + the fear of a draw is better than 3rd and 10 + bring the house. Hopefully Ivory is back by then and Jones is figuring into the mix, as well. We’ll need the fresh legs to keep Abraham and Lofton on their heels.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
So, so true, and it’s infuriating that you, I and a couple of others have been saying this all damn season long. Run the ball a little more, with even mild success, and maybe Brees isn’t under so much pressure that he turns the ball over on successive drives.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
Coldpizza Da Man
We definitely need to run the ball more often.
We had 13 offensive drives in the game that ended as follows:
7 drives ended in punts
2 drives ended in interceptions
1 drive ended in a Field Goal
2 drives ended in TD’s
1 drive to Run Out the Clock at the End of the Game
If you add up the plays on drives where we had to punt or got intercepted, we passed the ball 73% of the time.
If you add up the plays on drives where we scored TD’s, we passed the ball 61% of the time.
And we won the game by running out the clock at the end of the game. On that drive we passed the ball only 40% of the time.
There is a definite and clear correlation between running ATTEMPTS and sustaining scoring drives. On the drives that Payton didn’t even attempt to run, our drives stalled. When he at least made a concerted effort to run the ball, we scored.
And finally, let’s look at the passing game. Of Drew’s 49 attempts, 24 were either <3 yds, or incompletes, or interceptions. If just a portion of those poor passing plays were running plays instead, the Saints would have fared much better. I know you can’t exactly trade a running play for a bad passing play, but come on….the running game opens up our downfield passing game. There’s just no question, a more balanced attack yields a more productive offense. Payton’s pass happy play calling is really costing us points on the board and giving the ball back to the opposing defense through punts and interceptions. JUST RUN THE DAMN BALL MORE OFTEN.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 28, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
At the end of my previous post I meant to say....
opposing offense not opposing defense.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 28, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
“If you add up the plays on drives where we had to punt or got intercepted, we passed the ball 73% of the time.
If you add up the plays on drives where we scored TD’s, we passed the ball 61% of the time."
That’s been the case all season. I don’t know the exact percentages now, but as of a few weeks ago, scoring drives of any sort were considerably more run heavy than non-scoring drives. I’m sure that hasn’t changed.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
“There is a definite and clear correlation between running ATTEMPTS and sustaining scoring drives. On the drives that Payton didn’t even attempt to run, our drives stalled. When he at least made a concerted effort to run the ball, we scored.”
No doubt about it. Anyone that cannot draw that parallel needs to report back to kindergarten in January.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
You are right about PT's run and play...
helping to win the game but HOLDING the Falcons to 75 yards on 22 carries instead of 250 on 50 carries or what we did against Baltimore was just as much of a factor in winning the game also. I agree, get well Tusk, he runs with much more determination than any Saint back by far and has made a huge difference in regard to a consistent running threat with PT being next in line after him.
"...When I get to Brownsville I'm going to sit down in the middle of the street, and that will be the end of the line...I'm going to Brownsville exactly because I've got no reason to go there. Anybody ask me why Brownsville—there's no f****** answer...Brownsville. I picture a little booth at the edge of town with a bored-looking women sitting on it...You walk down Main Street...You walk into the Saloon, which is cool and dark and order a Bourbon."
Tom Piazza from his short story "Brownsville"
I absolutely hate the empty backfield.
Unless it’s 3rd and 99 or 4th and long or :01 left on the clock…at least give a threat that you may in fact run.
Week 17 matchup: Bucs
Week 17 motto: I have a manlove with Pierre.
Canal Street Chronicles-you know you want to
Exactly. On top of which, it gives you someone to help with the blitz pick up. Atlanta had Turner lined up alongside Ryan several times in the shotgun. It at least gave the front seven trepidation. You can’t very well pin your ears back and go full bore for the QB, if you’re not 100% certain the QB is going to have the ball. If you do, you’ll either be torched on a draw or picking up a 15 yard penalty for a late hit.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Re: #25 ... CUT THAT CHUMP.
First Place
To all the saints fans, good game, but it would be nice to be the champs of the NFC south right? of course you wouldnt know anything about that…(stop talking about how you won the super bowl last year that was the past, its all about the future.)
true, we haven't been atop the division since weeks 1 and 2 of 2010
and we sit squarely behind your Atlanta Falcons now in the race for the NFC South Banner.
If you’re thinking you have already won the NFC South this year, maybe the Panthers can use that to surprise you next week (boy, I’d like to see that!). Heck, we were 13-1 and lost to a 2-12 Tampa Bay team last year. But that was last year, and it’s all about the future, so forget that.
I’m not sure what the point is for the majority of your comment – but thanks for the kudos on winning last night.
Do you want a hug for being in first place right now, with one game to go?
Here you are….
HUG
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Dec 28, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if that’s helping, Hans. Oh. Never mind.
you’ll get yours yet, however big you think you are
maybe I should have ignored the King?
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Dec 28, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe he would rather have a "Hans job".
Jk. Most folks are pretty sensitive after a loss it’s just that the majority of those folks don’t go out of their way to let others know that but hey, losing sucks.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Dec 28, 2010 3:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
we all have our cathartic needs
I can understand the feeling, although I don’t usually relieve it in these ways (either going to someone else’s place to taunt, or rising to the bait of someone who’s itching for conflict…)
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Dec 28, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
and I also agree that losing sucks
I was hurting big time back in September…
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Dec 28, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
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