New Orleans Saints' Defensive and Special Teams Player Grades @ Falcons
This was an amazing performance by the defense. To go into Atlanta and hold the Falcons to 7 points (remember that 7 of the team's 14 points came off a pick 6) was in my opinion the biggest feat of the season. While the usual suspects made plays, it was the Marvin Mitchells, Jeff Charlestons, and Jo-Lonn Dunbars that were contributing with big plays as well. As a defense, the Saints played about as well as they can. Hard to believe that just 8 days before the Saints were getting gashed at will by Ray Rice and Willis McGahee, because Michael Turner had no running room whatsoever. Below are the grades.
Saints vs Falcons coverage
Alex Brown: B- (2.29) He struggled to get consistent pressure, but he did a good job of getting his hands up to disrupt passing lanes. He was responsible for one pass defended. He finished with 3 tackles and did a fantastic job holding his ground against the run. One thing I hated about Charles Grant was he was not only lazy, but overpursued the play constantly, giving play-action huge room and creating huge cut back lanes for runners. Alex Brown may not be a flashy pass rusher, but he doesn't make glaring mistakes breaking containment. Bobby McCray was another player, like Grant, who was often guilty of that crime. I'd much rather a heady player that respects his assignment, because the scheme will ultimately be better off for it. McCray and Grant were stat chasers, and Brown is a system guy who in the long run helps the whole better.
Jeff Charleston: B+ (2.51) He only made one play, but deserves every bit of this grade for the play he made. Mike Tirico of ESPN came up with some ridiculous stat about how every team that has had a 1st and goal from inside the 2 against the Saints came away with a touchdown or field goal since 1992. How do they even track that? I would sure hope that anyone with 1st and goal against any team inside the 2 would come away with a field goal at minimum any time. Anyway, right on queue, Tirico jinxed the Falcons as Charleston stripped Michael Turner at the goal line and the Saints recovered the fumble to prevent the Falcons from scoring. When the end result is a 3 point game, everything is magnified, but it's hard to think of a more defining moment in the game.
Jimmy Wilkerson: B- (2.24) He finished with 2 tackles, both on Turner, but one was a beautiful open field tackle that would have been a huge gain had he not made it. He was stout against the run and did a decent job of pressure on Matt Ryan at times.
Anthony Hargrove: D (2.36) Because Atlanta had bunch formations, Ayodele ending seeing a lot more reps than Hargrove. Still, Hargrove did nothing when he was on the field, and was completely swallowed up on any third down pass rushing situation. His lone action on the field was one illegal use of the hands penalty.
Sedrick Ellis: C+ (2.76) He finished with one tackle and he did a poor job of rushing the passer. While he didn't fill up the stat sheet, he did fill up the middle. He got consistent push and was a huge reason for the plays all his teammates made. Former Pro Bowl center Todd McClure of LSU was manhandled in the trenches.
Remi Ayodele: B- (2.58) Speaking of in the trenches, we all know that Ayodele isn't going to make a major impact on passing downs. This was an Ayodele in vintage form, though, as he was redirecting the play over and over. The Falcons really struggled to move him, which forced Turner off tackle. When Turner went off tackle, the players off the edge for the Saints took care of business.
Jonathan Vilma: A- (3.07) In discussing all the superior play of the defensive line, Vilma was one of the players that benefited from it with a number of opportunities to make plays. He played well and had 5 tackles, getting Turner dead in his tracks around the scrimmage a few times. His biggest play was a head's up fumble recovery that would set up the first touchdown. Todd McClure was set up for a shotgun snap, and someone just rolled the ball about 6 inches from the snap spot. It was one of their weirdest fumbles I've ever seen. Almost like he started to snap it, and then tried to stop himself but let go of the ball. A big head's up by Vilma to jump on that. His body was flying all game, and he captained the game perfectly.
Jo-Lonn Dunbar: A (2.89) Dunbar was a surprise starter over Danny Clark for this game. Asked about it, Sean Payton said that Clark was healthy and this change was made for the sake of the gameplan they had in place. Whatever the reason, the Saints' staff obviously felt that Dunbar gave them a better chance to win. Based on how much the Saints keyed the run, one would think Clark would have been a better call with run defense being his forte? This was a decision that paid off big time for the Saints in the end. Dunbar was fantastic all game long. He was disruptive in the Falcons' backfield and he was a menace with his big time hits and timely tackles. He was involved in three plays that stopped Turner dead in his tracks around the line of scrimmage. One play in particular saw Dunbar shoot the gap, embarrassing the right tackle with his speed, and blowing up Turner in the backfield. He did get flagged for a roughing penalty, but I thought he played at such a high level I excused him for it. He finished with a team high 6 tackles.
Marvin Mitchell: B- (2.45) I know Scott Shanle was active, but he made no impact on the game and had no tackles. While he played some, Marvin Mitchell seemed to get more action, so I graded Mitchell but not Shanle. Mitchell finished with 3 tackles and was victimized on a couple of passing plays underneath, but he recovered the fumble forced by Jeff Charleston, so he deserves a decent grade.
Jabari Greer: B (2.75) He finished with 4 tackles and a defended pass. He gave up a yard touchdown pass to Roddy White, but after that touchdown White was never heard from again. He was helpful in run defense and held his own in coverage despite being left on an island often.
Tracy Porter: C- (2.54) A very up and down game for Porter. He had two tackles for a loss, one on Turner and one on a great tackle that stopped Michael Jenkins on a bubble screen. He actually had a lot of trouble with Jenkins, though. He was victimized on back to back pass interference calls, the second of which was more than fair, on plays that went for 15 and 35 yards. The second put the ball on the 1 yard line, but he was bailed out by his teammates. At times he was solid in coverage, but he was targeted and beat as well. He finished with 5 tackles.
Roman Harper: C (3.07) He had four tackles and played fine, but never really made the plays we're used to seeing from him this season around the line of scrimmage. He blew a very makeable open field tackle on Michael Turner that allowed the runner to scamper for a 27 yard carry. Take that run away, and Turner had 16 carries for 21 yards.
Malcolm Jenkins: B- (2.67) He didn't do much, but he kept everything in front of him. When Sharper was in the game, he was moved to cornerback, and showed great coverage. He had one tackle on the play and had a beautiful pass breakup down the seam in the middle of the field.
Darren Sharper: C- (2.14) He finished with one tackle. For as much as he plays he's pretty useless right now. Always a step slow to the play.
Garrett Hartley: A (2.74) Can't complain about Hartley, he blasted a crucial 52 yarder, a career long, that ended up being the difference. He also made both PAT's.
Thomas Morstead: A- (3.18) He averaged 45.3 yards per punt and 41.6 net per punt. He also hit two kickoffs for touchbacks and he did a great job of containing dangerous Atlanta return man Eric Weems. He had one punt inside the 20, but had a punt go for a touchback as well. He now has the highest GPA on the Saints after this game.
Patrick Robinson: B (2.67) He had a beautiful open field tackle on Eric Weems to stop the return man dead in his tracks. He also downed a punt and showed some ability replacing Courtney Roby as a gunner.
Leigh Torrence: C- (2.54) He did a decent job in coverage, like Robinson, but he got flagged for a horrendous personal foul for blowing up a defenseless Atlanta return man out of bounds. There was no reason for that hit, completely unnecessary.
My Defensive Player of the Game: Jo-Lonn Dunbar
My Special Teams Player of the Game: Garrett Hartley
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Garrett Hartley...
Plays defense too?? SWEET!
"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
I know...
He had the names switched….
My Defensive Player of the Game: Garrett Hartley.
My Special Teams Player of the Game: Jo-Lonn Dunbar
"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
so you are saying
that Drew Brees had one more tackle than Scott Shanle. And a game-saving one at that.
"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"
I thought although they didnt get the numbers
Ellis and hargrove did a good job stuff the lanes to help cut down on the runs
I dont remember any big runs up the middle and our LB’s did a good job of taking away the corners
What a difference it makes when your front 7 show up to play
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 29, 2010 12:30 PM CST reply actions
I DON'T get the grading here......
the defense gave up 7 points, gave up less than 100 yards rushing to a RUSHING team, held the 3rd down conversions to an embarrassing level, and there are only two A’s (one of them an A-) to give out.
What do they have to do?!
The analysis is thorough and I’m not questioning the explanations, I just thought I would see more A’s after the team result
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WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Dec 29, 2010 12:43 PM CST reply actions
more A’s after the team result
There’s your problem right there. The “team result” has nothing to do with how well each player played. This is an evaluation of each player individually. Granted, the two usually go hand and hand. But each Saints player could play the worst game of their life, as long as their opponent was playing even worse.
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by Dave Cariello on Dec 29, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
True enough
The sum can be more that the total of the parts, but without the parts, what do you have. I mean somebody had to step up there to shut the Falcons down like we did.
Realize, I am saying everything here with a smile.
But each Saints player could play the worst game of their life, as long as their opponent was playing even worse.
That’s an example that could explain this, but I don’t believe that is what happened, do you? The Falcons played a good game, they just ran into a buzzsaw of a defense that kicked their a$$ when it counted.
But if I go with that explanation of the player grades, what is the team grade?
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Dec 29, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
what is the team grade?
Ahhhh. Good question. I would say a B. Maybe a B+. That’s what our post-game poll should be each week.
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by Dave Cariello on Dec 29, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
So a B+ for
215 yards of total offense (#1 in the league is 267.2 yards per game) , 140 yards passing (#1 in the league is 176.9 yards per game) and 75 yards rushing (#1 in the league is 64.1 yards per game, #2 is 90.3 ypg), 25% 3rd down conversion (#1 in the league is 32% per game), 14 first downs (#1 in the league is 15.3 per game)
Is it possible for the Defense to get an A? What would it take?
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
TWO DAT!!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Dec 29, 2010 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
That was intended as sarcastic humor, but I forgot the tags. Sorry.
And actually I wouldn’t really give them a full A myself. But I would give them an A-. They were very good. And even with the refs overlooking constant holding against them, they still got pressure on Matt and at least some hits on Turner in the backfield. Even if most of those hits didn’t stop him, they slowed him enough for others to swarm him under before he could gain more than a few yards. That’s good enough for me to give them the A-.
Realize, I am saying everything here with a smile.
Likewise. I think everything you read on CSC should be assumed as polite and serious while also with innocent intentions. That’s obviously not always the case but in any given situation, you’ll find out soon enough whether you’re wrong or not.
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by Dave Cariello on Dec 29, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
to clarify on the Torrence Unnecessary Roughness penalty
the call was not “late hit out of bounds” it was, according to what I remember from Hochuli’s words, for a rough hit on a player not involved in the play, or after the play was clearly over…
Now something I’ve seen a few times since the games is a replay of Turner’s fumble on the goal-line. And in it, to the right of the scrum pile, you can clearly see Tony Gonzalez, engaging in a block with a Saint, and seemingly well away from the action, after the play is over, right in the view of a ref, I think, Gonzalez knocks him to the ground. Did anyone else see this? I’m not sure how that is legal, but what Torrence did is not. I’m fine with calling rules and enforcing cheating and cheap shots, but please be consistent.
It's gonna be a great year.
but please be consistent
One of the biggest reasons I’m willing to consider allowing for penalties (and even the lack of them) to be challenged as well.
It was not a "rough hit on a player not involved with the play".
I rewound the play several times and watched it on my DVR. Both players were inbounds. The ball was still in the air. Torrence had no way of knowing that the ball would hit out of bounds because he was blocking his player, not looking over his head to see where the ball landed. It was a complete BS call. Also notice that on the first play of the game they practically ripped Reggies head off with a horsecollar. The announcers even showed the replay and said the refs missed the call. But I will say this, the refs were very consistent in calling penalties. They consistently called them against the Saints and consistently looked the other way when it was the Falcons committing the penalty.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 29, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
wonders if Brees gets an A on defense for a TD saving tackle
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
by jeff.l.b on Dec 29, 2010 2:18 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
LOL. Good Point.
That was a fantastic example of how to wrap up a player and take him down. Our defense was outstanding in this game, but in most games they miss tackles all of the time. Maybe Brees can show’em how it’s done.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 29, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Sad when our QB is one of the only players on the team who can make a form tackle.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Maybe next he can kick field goals too, HA!
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
by Ragin Who Dat on Dec 29, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
why not
Brees is a maverick, am I right?
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
LMAO
Yeah that was a great open field tackle altough I would prefer if he did’t set it up in the first place.
When I say WHO DAT U say TWO DAT!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 29, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
We will have to come up with a new defensive scheme for the next game against Atlanta
We basically just stacked everybody on the line and dared them to run. Obviously they couldn’t. But the one time they spread the formation out and aired it out they marched down the field and scored.
I don’t think Atlanta will try to run as much against us next time if we’re stacking up on the line. They probably will use a lot more play action pass if we’re always in a total run defense. I really think we’ll have to be more creatvie next time, and OUR offense will definitely need to score more points. I don’t see us holding Atlanta’s offense to 1 TD next time. They’re smart enough to change their offensive plan.
Our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row - Scott Fujita in 2009
Can anyone explain from an X's and O's
perspective how come the saints could not take advantage of Atl blizting so much?
I was sitting and waiting for us to burn them off the blitz but it never happened…
by blackandgoldbuddha on Dec 29, 2010 6:36 PM CST reply actions
me too
we never had an answer for that…
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Dec 29, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Because
Mainly it was because our o-line kept getting beat and their coverage downfield was good enough that Drew didn’t have time to find anyone nor for anyone to get open. Thank God drew spent some time studying Archie tapes because he turned in his best scrambleing game ever.
When I say WHO DAT U say TWO DAT!!!
by cajuncommando58 on Dec 29, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Defense gets an A+
I thought the defense played out of their mind. After being torched in the first game, they neutralized both Gonzalez and White and stuffed the running game. Kudos to the whole group. After that performance they deserve to take a photo wherever the hell they like!
Completely agree with Dunbar’s grading. He was an absolute beast out there.
A+ not hardly. Not with 2 PI’s in a row to set them up on the 1 yard line. And also the fact that there were 2 in a row, that would also bring the grade down to at least A- or B+.
Dock the player for those infractions, not the entire defense.
The Saints did something to the Falcons that only one other team has done this year.
Give respect where it is due.
"In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs"
Saintsfan75
I think you are reading too much into my comments. What I’m trying to say is anytime you can hold the Falcons to just 14 points, especially after they ran 27 points on us in the first game is good. They bailed the offense out on many occasions with key stops and takeaways and were fundamental in giving Brees a chance to win the game.

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