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4th and Geaux: Saints at Bengals Edition

Well, I’ve finally awoken from my Thanksgiving coma, and am back in action. The Saints are at the quarter pole of the season, and the home stretch approaches. Will the Saints repeat last year’s role as Secretariat, or will they be more like Zenyatta? Will I stop writing about horse racing since I know nothing about it? 

It’s time for 4th and Geaux.

Star-divide

Last week in review

The Thanksgiving game has been analyzed to death, so I’ll be brief this week. But here’s an angle that I haven’t seen discussed that much: last week’s game was a classic case of how luck and hidden plays can transform a game from an easy victory to a close contest.

What am I talking about? Fumbles. We all remember Roy Williams’ fumble at the end of the game (forced by Malcolm Jenkins’ heads-up play), but Dallas fumbled the ball a total of 7 times that game. Now, causing fumbles is a skill, so where’s the luck?

Fumble recovery. The Cowboys recovered 5 of their 7 fumbles and 1 of the Saints’ 2 fumbles. Fumble recovery is largely luck (which is why I never thought fumbles recovered should be a Hall of Fame argument in favor of Ricky Jackson), and if a few of those balls had gone the Saints’ way, we’d have had a much less stressful Thanksgiving experience. At least from a football perspective.

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Empty mailbag this week! Makes me sad. Do you have a question for the mailbag? Leave it in the comments or send it via email to stuart (at) whodatreport (dot) com.

Sizing up the opponent

The cavalcade of crappy teams continues for the Saints. The Bengals have been disappointing this year, although the Bengals have been disappointing almost every year since Carson Palmer hurt his knee in that playoff game against the Steelers. At some point, we should stop blaming the Bengals and start blaming ourselves.

However, the Bengals are better than their 2-9 record would suggest. The reason: Cincinnati has played one of the most difficult schedules in the NFL this year, with games against New England, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Atlanta, and others. The Bengals haven’t had an easy road at all.

That being said, they still aren’t a particularly good team, and shouldn’t pose much of a problem for the Saints, assuming that the weather (forecast high of 37!) doesn’t affect the Saints too greatly. I wouldn’t expect the Bengals to put up too much of a fight, but the Saints are the defending champs, and that can lead opponents to do crazy things…

Saints statpoints

Saints offense vs. Bengals defense

Cincinnati’s defense has several weaknesses, but the one that gets me most excited is pass rush. The Bengals have 12 sacks this year, and, per Football Outsiders, an adjusted sack rate (sacks adjusted for passing situation, down and distance) of 3.8%, by far the worst in the league. In other words, they sack the quarterback about 1 time in every 25 passes, which is not so good. Poor pass rush plays right into the Saints’ strengths, so Drew "Tee Ball" "Sportsman of the Year" Brees should have plenty of time to throw.

He'll need the time, too, because the rest of the Bengals pass defense is pretty stout. They’re excellent at covering #1 receivers (ranked 2nd in the league, per Football Outsiders) and even stronger covering running backs (1st in the league), but are only average at covering the rest of the receivers. So, this could be another good week for Robert Meachem, Mighty Mite Moore, and whichever of the former University of Miami tight ends you prefer.

The Bengals rush defense is also terrible, so Chris Ivory may have another strong game, depending on how many carries he gets, the health of Pierre Thomas, and whether or not Sean Payton feels like watching Reggie get tackled as he tries to cut back against the grain. If the Saints can get a lead in the second half, they should be able to milk the clock effectively.

One interesting Bengals stat that bodes well for the Saints: the Bengals are terrible at stopping short runs. The Bengals defense has allowed opposing offenses to convert 86% of runs on 3rd or 4th and 2 or less. That’s by far the worst in the league. Even though the Saints have traditionally stunk at power running, I wouldn’t mind seeing Sean Payton call a few runs when we inevitably go for it on 4th down.

Bengals offense vs. Saints defense

The big addition for the Bengals this offseason was Terrell Owens. If you look at his total yardage, he’s having a great year: he’s 3rd in the NFL in receiving yards. However, the receiving yards only tell part of the story: Owens also leads the league with 124 passes thrown to him. If you throw someone the ball enough, then they’re bound to catch a few of them. But not too many: Owens only catches 52% of the balls thrown his way, one of the worst rates in the league.

Of course, it’s hard to separate Owens' performance from that of Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer entered the league like a comet, looking to all the world like he was the next Peyton Manning. Whether it’s due to injury, bad luck, or being in a bad organization, it hasn't quite worked out that way.

The upshot is that Palmer is not a dangerous passer at this point in his career. He throws the ball a lot (his 432 attempts are 3rd in the league behind Manning and Brees), but hasn’t been very successful with those throws. The lack of efficiency is reflected in the Bengals’ adjusted Yards Per Attempt (aYPA) stat. The Bengals aYPA this year is 3.57, which would have been in the bottom third of the league last year.

So, while Carson Palmer is in the top 10 in passing yards this year, and has led the league in several weeks, the total yardage doesn’t reflect the fact that the Bengals offense has been very inefficient this year. In the NFL, efficiency is more important than total yardage.

While I tend not to dissect the running game as much in this column, I will point out that the Bengals running backs are terrible. While Cedric Benson has a pretty good raw yardage total, he’s averaged a relatively crappy 3.6 yards per carry and fumbled 5 times.

Beer of the week: Because sober analysis requires good beer

Well, my local beer store didn’t have any Ohio beers to review, so I’m headed to California to point out a limited release beer that won’t be available much longer. If you absolutely must have a Cincinnati-area recommendation this week, I’ll have to leave the world of beer do have a Cincinnati recommendation: Graeter’s Ice Cream. Graeter’s uses a small-batch, "French Pot" process to make ice cream, and it’s really some of the richest, creamiest ice cream I’ve ever had. My wife is originally from Ohio, and whenever we head to visit her family, I pester her until she lets me stop at a Graeter’s. Good stuff.

Now, to more pressing affairs: this week’s beer. This week’s beer is a limited-release edition from Lagunitas Brewing Company http://www.lagunitas.com/ in Petaluma, California. The beer is called Little Sumpin Wild, and it’s a great one.

Little Sumpin Wild is a limited-release Belgian Strong Pale Ale. Belgian Strong Pale Ales are complex, powerful, and alcoholic (7.8% in this case), and tend to be fruity, hoppy, and golden in color.

Little Sumpin Wild pours a nice golden color, with an almost pure white head. Lots of citrusy fruit with heavy hops, and pine flavor. The hops are different, though…a little funky. The beer is very crisp, with a medium mouthfeel, great carbonation, and a nice finish. I really enjoy this brew, and am sorry to see it disappear soon. Perhaps they’ll make it again next year?

And, I haven’t even gotten to the best part yet: the label. This is my favorite beer label in quite some time:

Sumpin_wild_medium

Overall, this beer is great, but will unfortunately be gone too soon. Because of that, I’m going to wistfully rate it a Lorenzo Neal, whose greatness we didn't get to appreciate for nearly long enough.

That was way too long...could you just give me a one-paragraph summary and prediction?

Sure. Fumble luck kept Dallas in the game last week, even as it allowed the Saints to win it. The Saints shouldn’t struggle this week, because the Bengals offense and defense aren’t really that good. If the Saints do struggle, it’ll be because of the cold or because the Bengals play over their heads. Terrell Owens is overrated, and Carson Palmer really isn’t that good. Graeter’s ice cream is, though, as is Little Sumpin Wild.

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For some reason,

the Little Sumpin Wild name rubs me the wrong way, but the label more than makes up for it.

The “fumble luck” has been annoying this year. It was a big reason we lost to lowly Arizona. Perhaps Jenkins has gotten the attention of the FBGs (Football Gods) and turned that luck around last week. Let’s hope so.

by Jimbo03 on Dec 3, 2010 7:46 AM CST reply actions  

The name is a takeoff on another one of their beers called Little Sumpin Sumpin. Someone just sent me a bottle of that, so I’ll report back at some point.

I agree about the fumble luck. Does anyone have a spare virgin or two that we can sacrifice to the football gods?

by Stuart Carlton on Dec 3, 2010 7:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty sure Jordan Shipley is a virgin. That count?

by Jimbo03 on Dec 3, 2010 7:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Jenkins

Jenkins, Jenkins, Jenkins! Blah!
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Little Sumpin Wild is a limited-release Belgian Strong Pale Ale.

On the beer note: Little Sumpin’ Wild is a Belgian Strong Ale, I don’t know where the “Pale” came from. It’s brewed with malted Belgian wheat, not barley, which is what accounts for the lighter color. The Belgian yeast gives a huge sour dough flavor, but I don’t care for their hops, personally. The sweet aroma is what I like most.

"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 3, 2010 9:21 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

How about something tastier that doesn't promote alcoholism and liver disease? Say a nice juice blend or smoothie.

"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."

by jeff.l.b on Dec 3, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Party Pooper!

(lol)

"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 3, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I defer to you on the type

When making the finer distinctions, I just go by what I read on various websites, and several refer to Little Sumpin Wild as a BSPA.

I do like the hops, didn’t place the yeast as sourdough exactly, although I’ve got one more bomber left for this weekend, so I’ll look for it.

And Dave is right. We need a CSC beer, and it needs to be done next time I’m in town.

by Stuart Carlton on Dec 3, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

It’s one of those hybrids that I suppose you could call pale, but for that matter you could call it a Wit. Every palate is different…. give it another go…. lol. But the nose is good, no?

CSC Beer is a great idea. Someone give it a name and I, or anyone who wants to add their two-cents) can come up with a recipe.

"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 3, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, the nose is good

Somehow I managed to delete the nose info from my review…I’m amazing at screwing things up on the CSC backend.

sigh

We’ll have to post a fanshot at some point to brainstorm CSC beer names.

by Stuart Carlton on Dec 3, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

We’ll have to post a fanshot at some point to brainstorm CSC beer names.

And styles. What style best fits WhoDat Nation?

"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 3, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the analysis

but I don’t see this as an easy one. Palmer scares me in that he is capable of being on another level any given Sunday, just not many Sundays. TO is not over-rated- I don’t want him on my team, but he can still play- he is in phenomenal shape, he’s big, still pretty fast and knows how to be an NFL receiver. Having said that, I think we win but I hope it’s easier than I am expecting.

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by Philinwood on Dec 3, 2010 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

I hope you're wrong :)

Though with the Saints this year, it seems like every game is harder than it should be.

TO is still a pretty good receiver. I’m just saying he’s not as good as his total yardage numbers say he is.

by Stuart Carlton on Dec 3, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I got a bad feeling about this game

Someone please tell me it will be alright, cher. It’s games like this that scare me: away, non-conference, team with losing record. Let’s hope the players on the field don’t overlook this one.

"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 3, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

It will be alright, cher

Have a homebrew. If the Saints take this one lightly, they’ll probably have to return to the North later when it’s really frozen, to play a much better team. I’m sure Payton has impressed this upon them.

My own feeling is that the Saints have finally woken up and will proceed to kick butt for the next five weeks. 13-3, here we come.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Dec 3, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I just hope

that the Bungles record doesn’t lull us into a since of over confidence. EVERYBODY wants to beat the champs. But what’s worse about the damn strippy ass cat is that “who dey” madness. I mean what’s that all about? How can they even look themselves in the mirror knowing that they TRIED and tried poorly to steal our WHO DAT!!! They deserve a Kyle Turley head snatch for that alone.

by BigTMill on Dec 3, 2010 10:23 AM CST reply actions  

I know

Even if they did start “who dey” first (which they did not), it never took off. Why keep clinging to a lame, hacked cheer that was never accepted in the first place? It’s just sad. Kind of like thier team. Who Dat is the recognized cheer in the NFL. It belongs to the saints, regardless of when it started, end of story. Find a new cheer, bungholes.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Dec 3, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Sheesh, and I thought I had only to argue with Bengals fans who didn’t educate themselves…

Yes, BCS, the Bengals did use Who Dey first. They started it in their super bowl season of 1980-81 (when we went 1-15). They continued it through the 80s… and then it faded a bit during the “lost decade” of the 90s, when they pretty much made our ineptitude of the 70s look mild in comparison. But even then it still stuck around, just not too many people had the guts to chant it when the answer was basically “everybody”.

How many of us had the guts to chant Who Dat during the lost season after Katrina? Not too many, I’ll bet you. What about in 96 or 99 when we also went 3-13? It was still “our chant” then, but how many people had the guts to say it out loud? Not too many, I’ll bet you. But just because it temporarily faded in popularity didn’t mean it stopped being the fan’s slogan for their team.

It’s so completely not worth fighting over, guys. It’s not even the same chant. Neither side ripped the other off. Just let it go and move on with life.

by FriarBob on Dec 3, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but ah'raaa

See you are educating on a “sports term” WHO DAT vs who dey. Any and er’body from Louisiana knows that who dat is a way of life that we have used since when…..FOREVER. Somebody knocks on our door back in the 60’s what my mama say…who dat at the door? Cat was talking to my uncle back in the 70’s and said man somebody put orange juice in this sauce, he said Who Dat? The preacher back in the 80’s said who dat need to come to Christ? Well you do and you do and you! And I could go on and on and god back as far as the 50’s. BAM!!!
So I say again they need a Kyle Turley head snatch for trying to steal our way of life, not just our football chant!!
WHO DAT!!!!!!
Let’s GEAUX baeeeby

by BigTMill on Dec 5, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Pull their heads off!
 WHO DAT.

by tommy v on Dec 3, 2010 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

If the Saints have taught me anything

It’s not to underestimate any team regardless of how bad their numbers are. We either blow right by them or completely fail. I am hoping the rest of season brings good luck (especially against you know who) but I am not ready to call it 13-3 just yet.

Breesus Is My Homeboy

by SarahT on Dec 3, 2010 6:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Let's grab a six-pack of Hudepohl or Hudepohl Light!

That’s cheap Cincy beer and it sux and it’s the beer that they sold in the Bengals stadium forever. And they would holler out to the beer sellers “Hude!” [hoo-day] to call for a beer, and that eventually turned into “Who Dey!”

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Dec 3, 2010 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

My wife's family is from Ohio

And I used to sell beer at Saints games, so they’ve all regaled me with stories about Hudy. Those are some sweet looking cans, though!

by Stuart Carlton on Dec 4, 2010 5:11 AM CST up reply actions  

yup

and those were before pull tabs, I bet – get me beer key, please!!!!

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Dec 4, 2010 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 5, 2010 2:04 AM CST up reply actions  

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