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The Saints Have Found Continued Success With Depth

SAN FRANCISCO - SEPTEMBER 20:  Reggie Bush #25 of the New Orleans Saints is consoled by Jeremy Shockey #88 before Bush leaves the field due to an injury during their game against the San Francisco 49ers at Candlestick Park on September 20 2010 in San Francisco California.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

The five year span of the Sean Payton era has been without question the most successful span in Saints' history. The last two years, especially, have seen a very high percentage of wins and a Lombardi Trophy. The Saints are 21-6 in the regular season over the last two years, and while that record has been achieved with quality coaching, preparation, and elite players, the depth of the roster is most responsible in my mind for the consistent success. If you asked me what's changed the most in the organization's business model in the last 5 years that's allowed them to be so much better than before, I'd say unequivocally that the improved talent evaluation has been the determining factor.

If you look at most NFL teams, they are built with a fairly proven, or at least promising, starting lineup. Teams either have starters they consider elite, serviceable, or with loads of potential. In the end football is an extremely physical sport, and the question that's always asked is how well a team will be able to absorb injuries. The problem is one never knows going into a season which positions will be most affected by a rash of hurt players. Assigning depth to each position becomes a challenge in finding diamonds in the ruff and it becomes a guessing game.

Star-divide

If you look at the Saints' roster today, the "superstars" are clear. You've got Drew Brees, Reggie Bush, Pierre Thomas, Marques Colston, Jeremy Shockey, Jahri Evans, Jonathan Vilma, Will Smith, Darren Sharper, Tracy Porter. Sure, you could add or subtract a few from the names I just listed, but these are the players most widely known around the league as the driving force behind the Saints' success the past 5 years. Of all those listed players, they have all missed games due to injury with the exceptions of Jahri Evans and Drew Brees. Now granted, keeping your starting quarterback healthy is a must. No top team can absorb a long term injury to a star quarterback and stay on the same level of competitiveness. The Saints have, however, had to absorb an injury to pretty much every other "superstar" or "elite player" on their roster during this blissful span. So as much as these guys are crucial to how well the Saints do, here's some other names that have made a difference: Jermon Bushrod, Usama Young, Malcolm Jenkins, Bobby McCray, David Thomas, Robert Meachem, Lance Moore, Marvin Mitchell, Chris McAlister, Mike McKenzie, Lynell Hamilton, Zach Strief, Chris Ivory. There's too many to list.

The point is, there's all these role players and they are performing on an extremely high level when they are thrust into a more prominent role. People around the NFL are a lot less familiar with these names, but they represent the difference between a team being good when healthy, and a team competing for a Super Bowl.

Last year, the Saints lost perennial Pro Bowler and reliable left tackle Jammal Brown. If you've been a fan of the NFL, you know that losing a left tackle can be one of the most devastating injuries a team can suffer. It's the most important position on the offensive line, and the number of high quality players at that position out there can be counted on two hands. In fact, an injury at that position often leads to an injury at the quarterback position, because of the severe drop off teams experience in pass protection. In step Jermon Bushrod and Zach Strief, who hold down the left tackle position all the way to the Super Bowl. Star running backs Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas have both missed time the last two years, and people by the names of Mike Bell, Lynell Hamilton and Chris Ivory have picked up the slack and held down the fort during their absence. At one point, with Darren Sharper and Malcolm Jenkins both out this year, the Saints were relegated to starting Usama Young, their 3rd string free safety. He turned in a masterful performance on the back end and played at a very high level. How many teams in the NFL can feel good about their third string free safety? You can count them on one hand. When Lance Moore went down for an extended period of time last year, or when Shockey went down, did the Saints suffer? Nope. Guys like Robert Meachem and David Thomas stepped in, filled in nicely, and the Saints kept winning games.The Saints were down to starting their 5th string cornerback at one point this year, Leigh Torrence, who turned in the game of his life and registered his first career interception. Last year, they were down to their 7th string guy as they brought in Mike McKenzie off the street, who intercepted future Hall of Fame quarterback Tom Brady, and they brought in veteran Chris McAlister, who caused a game winning forced fumble in an overtime game.

There is no question the Saints are at their best when their best players are healthy. What I am saying is that the drop off when those player get hurt is much less than almost every other team in the NFL. That's a tribute to Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis, and the scouting department they have assembled. In the NFL, you're only as good as the players that can fill in for your injuries, and it's a given those injuries will happen. You can hope for relative health, and that your quarterback doesn't go down, but injuries to important players are unavoidable. The Saints are more prepared than ever for a rainy day, and because of that, it's been raining a lot less lately.

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Great post, Andrew

Although I think you’re a bit too quick to call some folks (PT, for example) a superstar, even in the context of the team.

I’m fascinated by team construction. It seems like the teams that are able to remain consistently good (Colts, Patriots, Steelers) have a couple of irreplaceable parts and then a poop-ton of role players who the irreplaceable guys make better. As you point out, the Saints have done a good job of building this type of team.

by Stuart Carlton on Dec 4, 2010 7:26 AM CST reply actions  

Great Post

I’ve thought about this several times and I agreee with you wholeheartedly.

If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
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by Philinwood on Dec 4, 2010 7:54 AM CST reply actions  

Excellent anaylisis

 It is so nice to be on the right side of things after the long years wandering in the wilderness.

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" -Bob Marley

by PanheadCatahoula on Dec 4, 2010 7:55 AM CST reply actions  

I have to say it has been

Rita Benson LeBlanc…she has gotten her Gramps to pay some of the money needed to bring in caliber players….No Doubt…

She is why Mickey and Sean can do what they do!!!

Before to long she will own this team!!!

by Saintsfan4life on Dec 4, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

SF 4 Life

you getting any of this rain/slush snow down in Ft Knox? Here in Louisville it’s not too bad, but it’s gonna freeze overnight again and get a bit messy…

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Dec 4, 2010 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

BOOM rec'd it

I believe her influence is vastly underrated. She’s a peach.

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But you can keep 'em for the birds and bees

by stujo4 on Dec 4, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup - it's good to have depth

In 2000, we were 7-3 and lost both our starting RB and starting QB for the stretch run, AB stepped in for Jeff Blake, while Terry Allen/Chad Morton stepped in for Ricky Williams – we went 3-3 to end the year, but still won the division and beat the Rams for our most successful season ever (at that point). I’d say we lost not much, and maybe even gained in the QB dept. for that stretch run, while our running game dropped off severely from Williams to Allen/Morton (Ricky had already gained 1000 yards in 10 games)…

Hmm, I started off writing this thinking I was going to highlight that we didn’t have good depth in 2000, but by the time I finished this, I think we did ok that year – hunh! Anyone else have thoughts on this?

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Dec 4, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

Great Post

One thing about Shockey though…last year, we were winless in the three games in which Shockey didn’t play (Which makes us 16-0 in games he did play in). While Dave Thomas was and still is a very important factor in the team’s success, and the reasons we lost those three games weren’t Shockey driven, he would have definitely had a positive effect had he played.

"I'm in the Courtroom screaming Who Dat on the double, serving gumbo with a shovel, dog i'm on another level" -Jay Electonica

by triplea20x on Dec 4, 2010 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

That's why Payton started his pet project

namely “Jimmy Graham.”

If Pro is the opposite of Con, what is the opposite of Progress? Congress!
-Men's Restroom - House of Representatives, Washington, DC

by Philinwood on Dec 4, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

YEP!

The FO’s ability to scout and bring in quality players has been amazing. Our depth cannot be understated. It appears to me that the Saints have broken ranks with the old NFL talent/draft paradigm and have created a new synergistic mold that suits their type of coach, team and winning philosophy. Cudos to all those who turned the “Loveable Losers” into the back-to-back SB Champs!

by jray2000 on Dec 4, 2010 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Hey peeps,U of Cinn/Pitt playing on ESPN

Take a look at field/conditions, snowing

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica-Jim Halpert

by metryman on Dec 4, 2010 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

First thing awesome post!!!

With that said why is it that 90% of the best articulated information and analyst of the NFL, especially about the Saints, comes from this site? I read tons of sites and get the same rehashed drivel from the talking head week end and week out. Then come here and get a fresh and well thought out concept I can both follow and agree with. It would seem all the other places are just copying each others “insights” or they really are clueless?
   This remains why this site is my first stop for information about the Saints. Keep up the high standards and great comments guys. This is by far the best fan site in the NFL. Thank you all for you comments and posts though the years.

"Pigs have flown, hell has frozen over....", Jim Henderson

by ValientC on Dec 4, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

Jeff Duncan being one of them huh?

2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!

by TAYDIGGA on Dec 4, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Great post

I agree with everyone else about your analysis of the Saints. The biggest difference has been the evaluation of talent by the front office and the use of that talent by the head coach. In this day of overpriced “superstars” it’s good to be behind a team that can evaluate true talent and do away with “play me” egos.

Bear

by bearsaint on Dec 4, 2010 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

Shockey's Blocking

If you just watch the re-runs of the game and focas on Shockey, you will see how much his unsung role as a blocker is probably as important as his contribution as a receiver-

by '09 on Dec 4, 2010 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

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