You lost me here, Bill
by MtnExile on Feb 10, 2010 2:35 PM CST
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PrintIntroducing Bill Polian, general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, and the latest guest speaker at the "They Didn't Win, We Lost" Club.
"Our offensive line, by our standards, did not have a good game," Polian said of Sunday’s performance. "They were outplayed by the Saints’ defensive line. Our special teams, in terms of handing the ball — both in the return game and on the onside kick — were outplayed by the Saints. Therein lies the result. It had nothing to do with strategy or preparedness or toughness or effort."
I'm sorry, but this is almost incoherent. The successful onside kick had nothing to do with strategy? Tracy Porter's interception had nothing to do with preparedness? The final score had nothing to do with effort, for God's sake?
I'd like to remind Bill that the Colts were given all the room they wanted to run the ball, if that's what they chose to do. They chose to do otherwise. They chose to make Super Bowl XLIV into the Peyton Manning Show, for good or bad, and it turned out bad for them. Therein lies the result. No matter how good Manning may be, he wasn't enough to cover for bad strategy, bad preparation, and bad effort. It wasn't the fault of the offensive line, or even the special teams. It was the fault of the guys on the sidelines who had no insight into the nature of their opponents, and thought that doing the same thing they'd done all year would be enough. That simply being the Indianapolis Colts would be enough.
"… There were certain situations throughout the game where we didn’t execute — most notably, the failure to get the first down and run the clock out at the end of the first half after a magnificent goal-line stand and then, of course, the failure to handle the onside kick," Polian said. "We had four things we could have done positively on that play. We didn’t do any of them. That absolutely changed the game. It went from our getting the ball on their 40-yard line to having them march down for a touchdown. Then, our inability to punch it in from first-and-goal on the 3. Those situations, we did not execute."
So...if the Saints fail to punch it in from the 3, it's a "magnificent goal-line stand" on the part of the Colts; but if the Colts fail, with the game on the line, it's simply the Colts' failure to execute? Did you even see those guys in white and gold, Bill? They were called the Saints. They weren't a delusion (although what you thought of them was certainly delusional)...they were actually there, and they stopped your team. They held your vaunted offense to 17 total points. In the second half, Peyton and your perfect blitzkrieg machine played our defense to a 7-7 tie. And it wasn't because your offensive line didn't give a good effort--it was because our team outplanned, outprepared, and outplayed yours. It was because the Saints are better than the Colts. If we played you again, we'd beat you even worse...because our greatest advantage is your delusion that your business-as-usual approach stands a chance against the most versatile, most adaptable, and ballsiest team in the NFL.
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Boom.
Nothing to add, absolutely dead on target, every single word.
Next time I’m in Asheville or you’re in the GSO, you don’t buy beer.
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
The Great State of Oregon?
The General Services Offices?
Greensboro?
The Geo Stationary Orbit?
The Ground Support Operations?
The Glandular Sensory Organ?
The Ground Safety Office?
Your letters, they confuse me.
Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
Oh, it IS Greensboro
That is obscure. I guess I could be the ICT Saints Fan.
Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
Yeah, sorry...
…I wasn’t being intentionally obscure, I was just drawn that way.
:-D
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
by GSO Saints Fan on Feb 10, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
boom rec'd it
Colts got beat. Worst performance in a Super Bowl by a Colts team since Joe Namath beat their ass in Super Bowl 3.
Anybody been over at the Shoe to test the waters? I can’t go. The temptation would be too great and I am not going to develop a relationship with Allah99.
Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
Boom yeah!
"They're ready to be like 'Same Old Saints'" - Roman Harper, on each of the New Orleans Saints vanquished foes of 2009
Rec'd it.
Dead on right.
"It's a fairytale, man. I don't wanna wake up."--Anthony Hargrove on winning the NFC Championship
A lot of guys would think that a running game producing over 5 yards per touch, and a passing game over 60% accurate, with no sacks, would be a clear indication that the offensive line, of all people, did a great job. But not this guy!
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
E-mail it to Him
Send it to him, let him know that we arent putting up with his condescending BS. I guess if you are a colts fan, then you might want to believe what he said.
Not only were they outplayed, they were out hustled, out COACHED, and were not prepared for the Saints style of play.
Imagine Peyton as a kid in Nawlins, always dreaming of throwing the winning TD in da SB for da Saints, well Sunday, he finally did it!!!!!!
Bill, tell it to the 11 colts fans
who bothered to greet their team at the airport. Nobody’s listening.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 10, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That was friggin' great
11 fans … and we had 800k at the parade. Unbelievable! This should show the Colts management what their fans and sports fans in general think of their bs at the end of the season against the Jets. You have to strive to be the best that you can be. If you have a chance at perfection you go for it. This will take quite a few years for them to repair. And, I shed no tears.
Illusions, Michael. Tricks are what whores do for money...and candy.
Vikings twelve men on the field
Beats colts 11fans at the airport. Hooray !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
HAHA!!!!
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 10, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
guys, lets all relax on the no respect talk
it really doesn’t matter – the saints are the super bowl 44 champs!! bottom line. 10 years from now people are only going to remember that the saints won the game! not the fact that everybody wants to cry and whine right now that they were outplayed
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league, Drew Brees.''
-- Sean Payton
by DeuceisLoose926 on Feb 10, 2010 4:50 PM CST reply actions
No, sorry, I disagree
For 43 years, I’ve cheered for a losing team. That means that I always had to admit—and I did—that there were other teams better than us. The reason we never won a Super Bowl—or even went to one—is that the other teams were better.
Well, I’ve paid my dues. Now, when the Saints are the cream of the NFL, I resent having to face these clowns—and some of them in management positions!—who won’t graciously admit that the reason they lost is that the winner was simply better.
Screw dat!
"We’re running Ambush."
by MtnExile on Feb 10, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not you, it's Polian
Take it with a grain of salt (I’m a Pats fan), but I’ve been trying to ignore him since his Buffalo days. I respect the Colts players, and many of my friends are Colts fans; but I think of Polian getting another ring and I shudder.
Sure, he’s a great personnel guy, but I believe the Colts’ playoff struggles are in no small part due to his arrogance, his refusal to acknowledge being outplayed/outstrategized, and his seeming belief that “simply being the Indianapolis Colts is enough.”
I thought you guys were the best team (hard schedule, impressive wins) ever since you kicked the crap out of the Pats, so congrats. I have followed (and quietly cheered for) Brees ever since he played for the Chargers when I lived in SoCal, and you should be proud to call him your QB.
Congrats again, and hopefully you’re back next year and we can get revenge for the butt-kicking. :)
(No one outside of Indy thinks you’re anything but the best team in the league right now. Ignore the haters, be sure to savor this win. There’s NOTHING like the first SB win for an also-ran franchise…trust me on this one! )
Go Pats!
by Female Patriots Enthusiast on Feb 10, 2010 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
…but it’s more than the Colts. We got this from the Vikings, too. I haven’t had the heart to check, but I’d bet the house Cowboys fans are making much out of the fact they won in the regular season (“We beat them, we should have been Super Bowl champions! Waaaaah!”)
"We’re running Ambush."
Just ignore the sour grapes
I’m sorry, but if in a critical situation you get a 12 man in the huddle penalty AFTER calling a timeout? You have no business calling out another team for not deserving to win. And the ‘Boys (like the Pats) got smoked, so I can’t imagine their fans have much to say.
We went through it with the Pats in the early 00s (fluky, boring, 2003 comp committee complaints, in 2004 they were basically a push at home to the Colts despite the #1 seed) and it used to bug me. But, I took a step back and remembered that my team won, theirs didn’t.
Outside of a very small corner of the internet, most reasonable people accept that the Saints are deserving winners. And no amount of complaining can take the SB away.
Wait until the championship DVD comes in, then watch it repeatedly whenever you need to relive it. Even now, the 2001-2 video gives me goosebumps.
My one regret is that I didn’t buy more championship gear; I bought all of the DVDs and a few other things, but I’d suggest you go nuts.
Go Pats!
by Female Patriots Enthusiast on Feb 10, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'll burn you a copy.
Mail me the blank DVD and I’ll mail you back the copy.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Hah, no
But if you wait a few months after the SB, I’m sure you can find good discounts online. That’s where I got my beloved SB VIII hoodie for something like $19.
I think the DVDs tend to go on sale pretty quickly too (the Stillers one from last year is available for $12), and you can still buy them years later. But I could never wait for those, and if I remember right the Pats sold their DVDs for $10-15 or so, so I let myself get suckered in.
Go Pats!
by Female Patriots Enthusiast on Feb 10, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Or wait for Netflix. Then DON'T copy it. (wink wink)
"They're ready to be like 'Same Old Saints'" - Roman Harper, on each of the New Orleans Saints vanquished foes of 2009
Kind of off subject of the post
But I have first hand knowledge of Polian and yes he is one arrogant *ss who believes he is always right. I was working at Learjet in Wichita Ks and his brother was one of our VP’s. Of course Bill got a first class tour of the plant as well as a ride in a tricked out Lear. (Not an issue, if I was the VP, I would wrangle it for my brother if i could) But we heard Bill tell his brother what “needs to be done around here” to make the aircraft lines work more efficient. Guess what happened the next week? And the month after that? We wen’t back to what was working. I guess he might know some football, but he isn’t always right.
Yep...
Rec’d….
Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....
by FrenchFreak on Feb 10, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
It does matter to most of us
Don’t take away what our team accomplished by saying we won due to others failures. Yes, they failed at winning the SuperBowl, but ONLY because we succeeded. I feel we have the right to want our due, even if its never granted.
Bill Polian is no different than a troller....
he just has a slightly larger audience that pays any attention to what he says…. at least 11 that we know of for sure.
haha
keep the “11 fans” jokes coming. I’mm lovin’ them.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 10, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
zing!
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 10, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
There would have been more but they only had two cars............
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Maybe Poulian mad all the players fly by themselves.....1 player per plane
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Bill Polian is a joke of a gm
Maybe it’s just coindence but he was also the gm of those great Bills teams in the 90’s that lost 4 super bowls although he was fired after the 3rd lose
Maybe if he keeps his nose out of his teams game plan and let his coach do the game planning and running the team they would win a few of them
This is what happens when your front office personell think they know more then the coach ask Dallas and Oakland
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 10, 2010 6:01 PM CST reply actions
He's a jerk
But he’s also a genius.
He’s built the Colts into a perennial powerhouse, and there ain’t no denyin’ that.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Polian is the Marty Schottenheimer of GMs
He can take a bad team and turn it into a good team. He could also take a great team and turn it into a good team.
Both the Bills and the Colts were built for regular season success. The Colts were just fortunate that they went to a Super Bowl and got to face Lovie Smith and Rex Grossman, because otherwise Polian would still be ringless.
"We’re running Ambush."
I think
You mean AJ Smith?
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
hey now
Polian is the Marty Schottenheimer of GMs
Don’t be dragging Marty into this. Marty took sh*t and turned it into semi-precious metal in Cleveland, Kansas City, and San Diego. Never could get it to go gold, though.
Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
Yeah Marty is a lot better than some give him credit for, especially in one key area: teaching a crappy team to be a lot better. Which is why I really think he should have been given the Bills job. Sure maybe he gets fired in 6 years for not getting them a playoff win, but if he can just get them TO the playoffs that’s a step in the right direction.
Lovie Smith and Rex Grossman
You mean the same Lovie Smth and Rex Grossman that dominated the Saints in the NFC Championship game that year?
Yep, that's the one. And your point is. . . . . . . ?
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 12, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Hooray.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 12, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
....
Seemed like M-E was devaluing their Super Bowl win by saying they were fortunate they got to face Lovie Smith and Rex Grossman. That’s an odd thing to say coming from a Saints fan after what the Bears had just done to them. Now with that being said, that has nothing to do with this year, but I wasn’t the one to bring it up. Congrats on your win. Enjoy it while it lasts, no need to be bitter.
The '06 Bears
Were a good team.
M-E has just been on a hater-streak of late.
Don’t forget that the Saints played the Bears at Soldier Field in retardedly bad field conditions.
Our Dome team was just not prepared for that.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Our DOME team played in some pretty sh*tty conditions too...
Two weeks from the night the Saints got manhandled. Granted it wasn’t freezing cold but it was pouring rain. Definitely more “Da Bears” type weather than the Colts weather.
No Colts fan with his screws on tight enough devalues the Saints game. They had the momentum, the mojo, the heart, and the desire to win much more than the Colts did. They went in, took care of business, and took home the Lombardi.
Ignore Polian, he’s an idiot when it comes to ANYTHING besides personnel decisions. I think he made that perfectly clear in week 16.
This is my first visit to CSC since the SB. I’m a Colts fan, and of course needed time to let it go. Y’all would’ve done the same had the tables been turned. Congratulations on the win, hopefully we’ll see each other next February.
I hope that it's a date...........
"Sometimes there's just not enough rocks". Forrest Gump
by CaddoCoonass on Feb 18, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Boom rec'd it!!
I thought the same thing when I read his comments. And I will add another thing- they faced very few good QBs this season so they got this false sense. You don’t have to play a phenomenal game on both sides of the ball when you are going against Flacco, Sanchez, Garrard, V Young, Alex Smith Etc. Just a good game. When you face someone like Brees it changes everything.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Update....
3 of those 11 fans were actually foreign tourists looking for directions to the luggage carousel…..
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
and one was holding up a sign that said
“i love you pierre” or something like that. I think she meant thomas. (stolen from somewhere else on CSC)
He is Toting the Party Line
He is just spewing what his fan base wants to hear. They dont want to hear that we have a better team, a better coach, and our players have bigger hearts than their players.
I was over at BS blog reading some of their posts. Man, that guy mgrex or whatever his name is, sure loves to spit out stats. All he was talking about was how da colts outplayed da Saints, blah, blah, one stat after another.
I hope someone remembers me telling those youngsters, over there that nite they came on our blog and kept spewing out stats on their team and how they were so much better according to the stats, that stats were for the losers, that the winners would be too busy drinking champagne and hoisting the trophy to worry about stats. BOOM, guess I got it rite. Stats dont win, heart and want win games, not stats. Live by stats, you lose by stats.
WE RAZOOOOED THEIR AZZZZZ, ALL THERE IS TO IT!!!!!
Imagine Peyton as a kid in Nawlins, always dreaming of throwing the winning TD in da SB for da Saints, well Sunday, he finally did it!!!!!!
Not the stat that matters.... THE SCORE!!! WE'RE SUPER BOWL CHAMPS, BABY!!!
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
You know what they remind me of?
With all their stats? They remind me of a bunch of nerds in a singles bar armed with a spreadsheet “proving” they’re the hottest guys in the place. And when the girls all leave with someone else, they go home and fondle their stats.
"We’re running Ambush."
by MtnExile on Feb 10, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I laughed too!! Out loud.
"It's a fairytale, man. I don't wanna wake up."--Anthony Hargrove on winning the NFC Championship
by SaintsFan-KS on Feb 10, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Coulda just been
The baggage Handlers.
Super Bowl BOUND!
by VoodooGrisGris on Feb 12, 2010 5:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LOLOLOL and a snerk!
We Won The Super Bowl - and Dat's Dat.
by VoodooGrisGris on Feb 12, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
HA!
Now THAT was funny.
:-)
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
by GSO Saints Fan on Feb 12, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
lol
a priest, a rabbi and a colts fan walk into a bar……
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
by saintsfan77 on Feb 12, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Hope they didn’t bruise their shins too badly.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I fondle
My stats all the time.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
The really sweet part of mgrex's article
Is when he explained that the Saints won despite coming up short in several of his trademarked(I assume) “Winning Stats”. It’s great that he believes he really can boil the outcome of a game down to a few lines on a spreadsheet, but those stats didn’t work, despite their wonderful complexity!
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
by FuSoYa on Feb 10, 2010 8:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I laffed at his post
I didnt reply to any of it, but I rec’d one of their guys who has some sense, “themelodyman” or sumtin like that came out and toll megastatter that he was FOS and that the Saints beat the crap out the Colts for 3 of the 4 qters and that was the main stat!!!
Imagine Peyton as a kid in Nawlins, always dreaming of throwing the winning TD in da SB for da Saints, well Sunday, he finally did it!!!!!!
by Big Bru on Feb 10, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hell, winning 3 out of 4 quarters isn't even the main stat.
Look at what the Dolphins did to the Colts. They beat them for 3 quarters, only to have Peyton lead a 4th quarter comeback.
The only stat that matters in the end is the score.
Last I checked, we beat the Colts in that department.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
He's probably been banned by now
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 11, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
The author of "Winning Stats"?
That guy couldn’t tell a trend from a random occurrence. I told him and a few of his buddies that the manipulated stats they were presenting didn’t translate into wins and losses, just more manipulated stats. I also told them that I’d stop by and congratulate them if I was wrong and they were right, but asked them if they’d be willing to eat their crow like big boys and come congratulate us if they were wrong. I haven’t kept track, but has anyone seen them lately? Have they gave their unqualified congratulations yet?
If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002
by ArithMattic on Feb 12, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Statistically, the Colts won! They’re waiting for us to congratulate them.
Like I said before…nerds in a singles bar.
"We’re running Ambush."
I just have to take issue with the Nerds in a Singles Bar
Nerds are pretty cool – too cool to be a Colts Fan…
We Won The Super Bowl - and Dat's Dat.
by VoodooGrisGris on Feb 12, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
How do you define nerd?
I think you have something specific in mind that’s different from the way I’m using it. I’m thinking of…oh, let’s say the comic book guy on the Simpsons. An obnoxious know-it-all regarding everything Marvel, and a total waste of oxygen regarding everthing else. And that doesn’t describe all Colts fans—just the ones who think stats are superior to scores.
Actually, I don’t believe they know anything at all about football.
"We’re running Ambush."
stats?
I have been a Saints fan for almost their whole life. It has been a great year for my favorite teams, First Bama wins the Heisman, and the NC, And the SAINTS win the super bowl, beating peyton I choked manning. It doesn’t get any better than this. Someone should tell the indy crybabys that using the Auburn “logic” they can still reward themselves with a “MORAL SUPERBOWL” win if any stats other than the final score are in their favor! LMAO! peyton throws a pick six in Super Bowl, hows that for stats?
don't confuse me with stats and facts.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 10, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Ditto Dat about Stats...
We Won The Super Bowl - and Dat's Dat.
by VoodooGrisGris on Feb 13, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Recomend we ban stats and facts from CSC. Makes my eyes bleed.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 13, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
oh...u miss one colts fan who said
Man
Screw the handshakes and all the ball-washing of the Saints. They are an inferior team which got lucky on all its gambles. Consistency is the mark of an excellent team.
Why does the media expect athletes to show "class"? I think MJD of Yahoo sports (have to agree with him on this) put it right: If you are a true competitor then you don’t shake hands as if nothing happened. In that sense I actually like Belicheat "Remember the feeling". I’m sure #18 does.
“Winning is not everything;the desire to win is” – Vince Lombardi
“Lomu’s the Brent Spar with attitude. A figure who inspires hero worship among even those who think a fly-half is a glass of beer consumed when ’er indoors is looking the other way.” – Robert Philip Daily
by rangerover76 on Feb 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and i responded
inferior??
they beat you by 14pts and held your offense to 17pts.Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki…..159mph is my top speed on the interstate
I bleed Scarlet and Grey…A Buckeye for Life
Peyton Manning ran off with seconds to go @ Super Bowl 44…that is priceless
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Marvez-Manning-has-unhappy-ending-020710by mathew.40 on Feb 9, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that little punk has the audacity to insult my military career. here is the link.
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2010/2/9/1301637/the-predictable-mock-outrage-over
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159mph is my top speed
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Don't bother
Rangerover is an idiot. I don’t think many fans at SB like him much more than Karim.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Srew that mofo lttle bi...h
I spent 22mos in iraq and 9 mos in afghanistan that little pansy SOB is one of those people who would pee their Pants at the site of a gun not to mention IED’S and suicide bombers.
I dont care if I have ever argued with you or not I’m PROUD of you for serving your country and I’m even more proud that you are home and alive
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 11, 2010 7:35 AM CST up reply actions
damn
did you do 2 tours in OIF?….22 consecutive months in Iraq would suck.
i hate IED….and VBIED.!!.
are you retired or still on active duty or in the reserves/guard?
Thanks for your services. I think my unit till be activated in early 2012 for OEF.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159mph is my top speed
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Afghanistan may 2003-feb 2004 i watched the superbowl at a fob on pakistan boarder Chapman
Iraq sept 2004-june 2006 camp Taji 15 miles nnw of bagdad
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 11, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
"Winning is not everything;the desire to win is" – Vince Lombardi
I think Vince would be appalled to have such a classless turd mouthing platitudes and pretending to respect him. Vince knew how to win with class and how to lose with class. This guy does not.
Vince knew how to win with class and how to lose with class.
I don’t mean to be argumentative, but I never viewed Vince Lombardi as having class. I saw him as a bully. And when he put those R’s on the sides of the Redskins’ helmets in 1969, I knew he didn’t have any taste either. Contrast him with Bill Walsh, who told people close to him that he loved them. They both won a lot of games and championships. Who’s the better person?
Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.
Vince Lombardi
Fatigue makes cowards of us all.
Vince Lombardi
We didn’t lose the game; we just ran out of time.
Vince Lombardi
And now I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place.
Don't you understand, it's not my problem?
Hmm OK maybe I meant he knew how to win the rhetoric battle.
Still I thought he was a bit classier than you seem to remember him. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe not. But either way, he certainly blows the crap out of the moron who was quoting him when it comes to class, intelligence, and just about anything else.
First
time stopped celibrating the victory to chime in man no excuses our saints were the best team in the nfl this year.
dearly appreciate all the knowlage shared by all of you. My dumb a%$ looked rather intelligent at the SB party I went to. Thanks to all of ya’lls input I looked very knowledgable about the game. Nokidding thanks to all.
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OldFartFan
an open letter to all who believe the colts lost more than the Saints won...
I no longer care what you say. Say we don’t deserve it…it doesn’t bother me. We’re world champs – raise the banner and print the t-shirts
Sincerely,
Saintbevo
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
just been on yahoo sports lately:
there was a post on needs of 32 teams in the NFL entering the offseason, and i repeat:
as we at CSC know, there are a few weaknesses like our front 7 that need to be shored up, and that was graciously mentioned in the article. However when it got to the colts, it read, and i quote exactly, “Needs: Not much, despite Super Bowl flop. Continued development of OL; another sturdy LB; decision on PKs Vinatieri and Stover.
Strengths: Peyton Manning(notes)-led offense, bolstered by young receivers; aggressive and deep secondary; excellent coaching staff.”
i found that laughable especially the part about excellent coaching staff
The Easter Bunny is a savage...
They do have an excellent coaching staff
Problem is, they’re all position coaches. Not one of them has an iota of strategic imagination.
"We’re running Ambush."
Coaching staff
I have no problem with how they coached that game. I wish the would coach the same way every time we play them for the SB. :)
Not disrespecting BUT
He sure aint saying who the best team was. He still thinks his Colts are the best team. All the stats prove him right. All the MSM still believe the stats too.
The loser spews stats, the winner spews champagne, which would you prefer????
Imagine Peyton as a kid in Nawlins, always dreaming of throwing the winning TD in da SB for da Saints, well Sunday, he finally did it!!!!!!
We know who the best team is
And we get to gloat until next season starts. ;)
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Big Bru, I understand I just choose not to let anyone get me down
Well if they believe their stats they sure will be surprised when we are back next year. Let them build back their confidence, let them underestimate us again.
Over at Stampede Blue, the Colts fans are taking solace in their running game during their Superbowl loss. I didn’t have the heart to tell them it was part of the game plan and coach Williams said he didn’t care if they got 300 yards rushing.
Link?
Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....
by FrenchFreak on Feb 10, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Well actually I’m pretty sure it was 200 yards rushing not 300, but yeah that was in one of the postgame quotes from Vilma (I think) about how they could run it all day and they couldn’t let it bother them, it was more important to avoid giving up the big play to Manning. Even at the price of an occasional big play to Addai.
not enough has been said about Caldwell
and how he prepared this team. We all got 2 weeks of “Colts will win going away/Saints need 6 turnovers to win/Payton can’t be stopped/Saints can’t handle Colts D’s speed” and I think the colts were listening. I never heard Caldwell doing a whole lot to disabuse us (or his team) of the notion that we would just participate in a coronation. I’m sure he said more in private, but I think he should have been banging that drum every chance he got – in public and in private. Their whole team seemed like deer in headlights for the entire 2nd half.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Caldwell is a good coach
and we really have no way of knowing since no one has said. We can only assume. He is solid and I am pretty sure he tried to prepare them in the best way he could.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
I realize you're trying to be charitable
…but the evidence suggests that he not only did not prepare his team, he also didn’t prepare himself. He was totally outclassed by Payton, and I mean “totally” in the literal sense: it was as though Caldwell wasn’t even there.
"We’re running Ambush."
It's not just Caldwell
When they win, the whole organization gets credit for great strategy (Polian, Irsay, Manning as “the coach on the field”); Caldwell’s mostly the guy who doesn’t get in the way.
When they lose, the strategic mistakes are Caldwell’s bad coaching.
It is curious that the Colts reverted to their uberconservative selves, when earlier in the season Caldwell was more aggressive than Dungy had been. We might never know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the head coach’s game plan was partly driven by a certain micromanaging GM.
Go Pats!
by Female Patriots Enthusiast on Feb 11, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
Hey
couldn’t help but notice the more low key type espn ers picked NO. In their humble opinion. They just rose above the hype.
OldFartFan
some did, i grant them that (don't ask me to name names they all look alike)
But like you said, low key. ie, don’t need to hype and make everyone happy to keep their ratings.
Remember
This is the arrogant jerk who defiantly ordered the starters pulled against the wishes of the fans and players three halves away from a perfect regular season.
And then mocked them/stormed off of the set.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Payton
SP did say that at this point in the year teams tend to stick to what works. Fortunately for us we actually prepared as if we were playing another team that had tendencies. I remember watching the game telling my mother in law that I have not seen the patent pending Manning to Wayne slant! GUESS WHAT! I finally got to see it happen, but TP jumped the route and took it to the house.
Don't think I'd let the ramblings of the GM from the losing team upset me too much.
For one, he’s just doing his job. Seems arrogant but he can’t tell the press “Yeah we got our asses handed to us cuz the coach was in over his head”. Players can say “they were the better team today” and get away with it. The GM can’t. He’s the lead dog in the pack.
Besides, who’s got the trophy again?
"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."
On a side note I found this today
AND IT MADE ME LAUGH! HAHA!!
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
That is funny!
Marcus Allen made some good picks though.
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson
That guy (last name) Allen said the Saints would win by double digits. :-)
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
you hit the nail on the head
GREAT POST! REC’d IT!
PSN: greenwald2004
Hit me up on the sticks! Madden 10 is my game now.
recd....congrats on ur SB win
i was cheering for you and for the 4 ex-pats players and two of my buckeyes.
btw i posted this @ pats pulpit b/c everybody over there hates polian.
oh btw MtnExile, watch your back…you never know who is behind you
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159mph is my top speed
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Question..
WHERE THE HELL HAS COLD PIZZA BEEN?? We haven’t heard from him since before we won…did he die during the celebration? WHERE ARE YOU COLD PIZZA?? WE NEED UR COMMENTS!
PSN: greenwald2004
Hit me up on the sticks! Madden 10 is my game now.
did anyone notice on media day
or some day during the week before the SB Caldwell did a press conference and wore a gold blazer and black and gold tie with a shirt that was I think gold too?
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Mike and Mike were just dicussing his comments.
They said the BETTER TEAM WON. Will try to find the link with them discussing this, don’t want to misquote the guys.
LOVE MY SHOCKMEISTER AND THE COOL BREES!
Don't you know that the game was fixed?
Yep, the league wanted the Saints to win and Manning was told to take a fall. “The scowl on Manning’s face when he walked into the stadium said it all.”
Oh, the Saints should also be aware that it was unfair and ungentlemanly to call an onside kick to start the half. Greedy little buggers!
They lost. It stinks for your team to get to the Super Bowl, endure two weeks full of 24/7 hype, and then lose (I know, I’m a Patriots fan) while the whole world is yukking it up afterwards. But at some point Colts fans, and Polian, have to come to grips that they lost to a better team. Period.
Keep the faith!
Oh and as to those links…
Bleacher report has some good participants on its site. Unfortunately it also has a lot of sewage that makes the most virulent, hate-filled, extremist political organization (whether left-wing OR right-wing, doesn’t matter) look like a Saint when it comes to honesty, accuracy, fairness, and believability.
That’s the DOWN side of bloggers. Any idiot can get a blog and say whatever they want, and there are actually people stupid enough to believe them. Pity the fools.
ROFL! I just voted in the poll that the second moron has on his post so that I could see the results. Of 7766 responses, counting mine, an utterly overwhelming majority of 96.8% (over 7500 votes) say no. A measly 2.4% of voters, or approximately 186 Colts fan whiners, said yes, and an even smaller 0.7% of them, or approximately 54 brainless twits, say “undecided”.
So much for that moronic idea.
Here was my response to this dipshit:
Wow. I’ve heard of sour grapes, but wow. So tell me…when the Saints beat the Vikings was the 12th man in the huddle a plant by the NFL? Did Favre throw that shitty pass on purpose? I mean, he’s done that same thing in big games at least 3 other times, but that time it was obviously on purpose. So you, as a Colts fan, have so little respect for Peyton Manning you would suggest he would participate in this? Wow, quite the fan you are.
Holding? Really? That’s your argument? Holding happens on every play. Every. Single. Play. It only looked egregious to you because you are a Colts fan and lost. That’s it. Hank Baskett never had possession on that kickoff. He coughed it up without ever possessing it and then it bounced where Reis was on the ground, who then grabbed it with his right hand against his body (possession) and then was hit by a Colts player trying to jar it loose. Possession, contact, down ball right there. The rest of the scrum was unnecessary. Sorry. Your team lost. Deal with it. You were out-coached and out prepared. Suck it up and move on. Jesus.
If the NFL really wanted to rig a feel good story why not do it in 2006? A season removed from Katrina, Brees, Bush and Payton all new in town. The destruction was still fresh. They made it to the NFC Championship game, so they were right there. They could have easily rigged the game against the Bears and then rigged the SB. Why not then? It makes waaaaay more sense for the feel good story part. The reason they didn’t do it then? Because they didn’t do it all. You’re an idiot.
The real money-making story (or so anyone thought when the playoffs started) was Vikings-Colts. Brett Favre is instant notoriety while the Saints, feel good as they are, were not national names the way Favre is. If it’s about money, Favre would have been the best bet for the NFL, not the Saints. If it’s about feel good, 2006 would have been the best time to do it. Neither one happened. You’re wrong. It’s sour grapes. The Colts weren’t the best team this year. Get. Over. It.
Bleacher Report is so frustrating because it’s filled with quality writers, but for every quality writer there are about 25 of these morons.
Heh no kidding. And I loved that you pointed out holding happens all the time. The Saints did get away with a few, but not many. The Colts got away with it just about every other play. Screw morons who can’t see when their team commits an uncalled penalty and then scream like whiny two year-old brats when one that hurts their team doesn’t get called.
That's it - we've arrived!
As if we need any more concrete proof of our arrival as a team to be reckoned with, this is it: Crazy-ass conspiracy theories about how the NFL wants us to win.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
wow
nice job….that was awesome
"if you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on earth" Bob Marley
Why don't more people hate the Colts again?
Say what you will about the Patriots, but you will never hear Bill Belichick say crap like that. When the Pats lose Bill always says “we got outplayed and we got out-coached and it starts with me”
Be careful Saints fans, Polian may change some additional rules to make 3rd quarter onside kicks illegal….
for a team with such a great qb
they seem very conservative, i for one believe their entire coaching staff should be fired. i dont think they had anything up their sleeve waiting for the saints. as for the fans, i along with anyone else who was in miami had to notice how lame their fans were….
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 11, 2010 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
If he tries, he’ll lose his competition committee membership even faster. Frankly if he isn’t already in the “dead man walking” category he’s on his way there. The rest of the league is already sick of him as it is.
Colts ought to issue free season tickets
to at least 11 fans . It’s the least they could do for such a large fan base.
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
Congrats to the saints
for winning a well deserved title and the ability to recognize Bill Polian as a FRAUD of the highest order.
I am a Patriots fan and only a handful of games were as out of hand as the one you laid on us this season in the last ten years, so from that perspective it makes me sleep easier that your Saints won.
Oh and Bill Polian is a FRAUD.
I gotta give Polian SOME credit...
It’s not easy swallowing your pride and saying the other team was better. Especially as an owner that doesn’t want to alienate his fan base. I think he DID give some credit to the Saints, he said the Saints outplayed the Colts three times. Yes, he surrounded it by saying that the Colts could have played better, and what’s wrong with that?
If the Saints had lost, would you have wanted Tom Benson to say “I have to hand it to the Colts, they’re a much better team than the Saints.”?
A final thought… Many Saints fans here are saying that we dominated the game and won easily. In hindsight it may seem that way, but through 55 minutes, the Colts were driving towards tying the game up. If not for that interception, this would’ve been a Brees 2-minute drill away from a last minute nail-biter.
Okay, let the flaming begin. But also know, I’m a huge Saints supporter/believer and am just trying to be unbiased.
Finished Strong.
I understand what you mean, but: their tying drive failed. The Saints stopped it. Their desperation last-minute drive also failed: the Saints stopped it. Those stops weren’t just accidents that turned out in our favor: the Saints worked for them. And even if Indianapolis had succeeded in scoring on that last drive, they still would have been behind by a touchdown, and 24 points would have represented pretty much their average in postseason scoring. That team you saw? That was as good as the Colts really are. And they lost by two scores.
"We’re running Ambush."
all right
That team you saw? That was as good as the Colts really are.
I think they can do better than what we saw. 7 fourth quarter comebacks this year or something. They can do better. They just didn’t that night.
And now I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place.
Don't you understand, it's not my problem?
I agree with Stujo
Sure I’m a Colts fan so it’s expected of me to agree here. I think M-E is just trying to rub it in a little bit. Your team won, and won decisively. Take it for what it is and stop trying to make the Colts sound like slobs who could get rolled by the Rams – all it’ll really do is take away from the great victory your team achieved.
would you have wanted Tom Benson to say
Benson wouldn’t have said anything. Few people outside of the region can understand him when he speaks anyway.
The GM Mickey Loomis might have made a statement but probably not. Payton definitely would have. As a matter of fact, I did his losing statement for suzjo4 the other night, just for contrast (I’m big on contrasting). I think it would have gone a little something like this:
We just didn’t execute tonight. Give credit to Peyton and the Colts. We were outplayed and outcoached tonight in most phases of the game. It’s disappointing, but we’ve got some work to do and it starts tomorrow. We need to review and start making some changes and improvements so hopefully we’ll be back next year.
You’ll NEVER hear Loomis or Payton single out a player or position or group for direct criticism. That’s why the post game comments are usually so boring.
Mr. Polian is a clod who can’t control his emotions.
And now I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place.
Don't you understand, it's not my problem?
We have been intercepting balls all year....
so why should Peyton Manning be an exception… I had alway thought that if we played "our’ game, that we would win because we are the better team regardless of how well the Colts played. The better team won, no doubt about it….
"Sometimes there's just not enough rocks". Forrest Gump
by CaddoCoonass on Feb 13, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Manning threw more than TWICE as many INT's as Favre this year.
Why would he be immune from good defense’s taknig the ball away in the SB?
Is there an unwritten rule that you just don’t intercept little Peyton’s throws in the SB?
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
I agree with this.
I don’t see what all the fuss is about.
by Totally Spoil on Feb 18, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
Arrogance loses games
If Polian is dilusional enough to think that’s not true, then he needs a therapist. My team learned that against the Giants.
Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit
And by the way
…does anyone else remember that after the Colts lost to the Steelers in 2005, Peyton Manning threw his offensive line under the bus? “Let’s just say we had some problems with protection…”
Seems to be a grand tradition in Indianapolis.
"We’re running Ambush."
My overall view of the Colts has changed.
Did not go for 16-0. Ok, there are pros and cons.
Manning did not attempt to shake Brees’ hand. Ok, there are pros and cons.
Polian make these idiotic statements. No defense for that.
11 fans show up at the airport. Absolutely no defense for that.
I used to think the Colts were a pretty classy franchise led by a pretty classy guy.
This year seems to have scraped some of the make-up off this beauty of a team.
Mr. Manning had better hurry up and have a cute son. ’Nuf said!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 11, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you
“Make-up” = stats. If you look underneath, things don’t look nearly as good.
"We’re running Ambush."
Just a thought
If Buddy D had had his way, Polian would be GM for the Saints. Back in the day, he carried on for weeks campaigning for him to be hired. Kind of ironic, no?
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" -Bob Marley
by PanheadCatahoula on Feb 11, 2010 5:02 PM CST reply actions
I have a feeling Buddy would have changed his mind after this year, if not sooner.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
another example of how Caldwell, etc mishandled Colts...
was how the two teams handled the drive for the perfect season/ Payton and the Saints embraced it, saying that they wanted to go undefeated. When we lost to the cowboys, we didn’t say “it doesn’t matter”, we expressed disappointment. The colts hid from the perfect season, saying over and over that it didn’t matter that “they don’t give trophies for the regular season” and finally throwing it away by pulling their starters in the middle of a game. Payton never would have done that. He (and the team) wanted perfection and would’ve fought for it.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
I think Caldwell and Polian greatly underestimated
how that decision would affect the players, the fans and the negative reaction from around the country. They purposely threw that Jets game for two reasons:
1) to avoid the media pressure of going undefeated, and
2) they figured they might lose legitimately the last game of the season in Buffalo in the frigid cold and snow, and didn’t want to be 15-0 and have to lose that way.
What the Colts’ organization did was wrong and it was dishonest. Polian said they pulled the starters to rest their players and save them from injury, but Caldwell played them enough in a blizzard in Buffalo so certain players could reach their personal milestones.
The approach they chose made me finally and fully appreciate what Bill Belichick and the Patriots did in 2007. Yes, they fell short of history by 3 points and a freak helmet catch in the last 2 minutes of the SB, and it was a gut-wrenching heart-breaker for the fans. But at least every player could say that they played their hearts out every single time they took the field that season. I’ll take that kind of honest effort with a loss over what the Colts did any time.
The Colts also busted the myth that if only Belichick wasn’t arrogant enough to try to go undefeated, then the team wouldn’t have been mentally and physically exhausted and they would have won the Super Bowl. As Brady said, “what team doesn’t try to win every time they take the field?” The Colts, apparently.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 11, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The only reason I didn’t want the Patriots to go undefeated was I didn’t want it to be right after spygate and as Bellicheat’s “screw you” response to the rest of the league.
If both the Colts and we had met at 18-0, I would really have liked that. But they threw it away, we didn’t adapt well enough to the loss of Shockey, and it didn’t work out. Maybe next year?
Maybe... but it's hard
Now you have a team full of Super Bowl winners, some of whom now want to be paid as such. New players come in, some leave, things change. Pats did it earlier in the decade, but then the coaching and scouting staff got raided (again and again) and players were multi-Super Bowl winners and I can’t blame them for wanting killer contracts with other teams that could pay them. It can be done, but it’s hard.
Keep the faith!
PLEASE
much to early let me think this team will stay togather for at lest one more year. I know its a dream but i’m not ready to wake up just yet.
OldFartFan
Congratulations, Saint Nation on a well deserved victory.
Enjoy it. Good luck next year.
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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 12, 2010 2:58 PM CST reply actions
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