Denial: Not A River That Runs Through Indy (Or..The Great SB XLIV Fix, Debunked)
by Anthony_JK on Feb 11, 2010 9:14 AM CST
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Probably the most beautiful thing about basking in on the "Scoreboard" as a Saints fan is to hear the accolades and respect that this team is earning from peers and pros alike.
A close second, though, would be the moaning, groaning, and outright crying of the more insufferable of Colts Fan, attempting to make excuses for why their supposedly superior team ended up on the losing side.
Of course, it would probably be the same on our side if the Saints had lost...but you'd think that even the most jaded Who Dat would be willing to give at least some respect to the winning team with the minimum of "sour grapes".
But, just as victory is bringing out the best in Saints fans, it has brought out some of the typical stages of denial in Colts Fan; the notion that since their team wasn't supposed to lose this game, there must be some conspiracy theory afoot to deny them what was supposedly theirs for the taking.
What I am about to fisk, though, goes beyond mere denial, and crosses the line over the cliff into sheer lunacy.
Allow me to present the latest in lame excuses by a disgruntled Colts fan for losing Super Bowl XLIV: "The Great Referee Fix"....as produced by Charles Kellett of The Bleacher Report, a Colts fan page powered by both Facebook and CBSSports.com.
The Fix Was In For The Saints To Win (Charles Kellett -- The Bleacher Report)
I have been a Colt fan and an NFL fan for almost forty years. I don't know if I will be watching the NFL next year. I know that I probably will, but that Super Bowl really gave me reason to question the integrity of the league.
Ahhhh, yeah...because your team lost, the whole NFL is tainted. Get in line with the other 30 teams not with a championship this year, Mr. Kellett. I suppose you weren't saying that after Indy won in 2006, right??
I did not understand that scowl that Peyton Manning had on his face when he walked into the stadium. I thought maybe he was tired of the cameras in his face, or that it was a put-on, however, in hindsight, I think he was told that the fix was in for the Saints to win.
Told by whom?? Jim Caldwell?? Roger Goddell?? The officials themselves?? Considering that Peyton always seems to scowl before a game, perhaps you misread this as something other than pregame face??
So, we ask...just how was the fix put in for the Saints?? Kellett elaborates:
The first two receptions by the Colts had a very clear defensive hold and a pass interference. No Flag was thrown. I had a bad feeling when I saw that. Even with the Colts up by ten I knew something was wrong. A defensive lineman for the Colts (unnamed) twittered after the game that he went to the refs to report that he was being held consistently and the ref would not even make eye contact with him. "Usually when I tell the ref that I'm being held he will ask his number. Tonight I got no response, not even eye contact. He would not even look at me! That makes me think." A previous post was "I guess America wanted the Saints to win." I think the NFL wanted the Saints to win.
Of course, the fact that the Colts managed to secure a 10-0 lead and overcome these supposed "blown calls" probably doesn't register too well with Mr. Kellett. I guess that Pierre Garcon's critical drop of a third down pass was part of the fix, too?? Or, the goal line stand by the Colt D at the end?? Or Mike Bell slipping on the turf due to having the wrong cleats on the third-and-goal run?? Or, Marques Colston dropping a sure pass in the first quarter?? Yeah, that would be some conspiracy against the Colts.
Oh...and great journalism, Mr. Kellett, to rely on the tweet of "an unnamed lineman" who complained about being held. Gee, as if the Colts weren't holding consistently, too?? And perhaps the "let them play" attitude of the officiating crew which is standard fare for most Super Bowls wasn't merely a ploy to keep the Colts bottled up?? It sure kept Dwight Freeney from getting to Drew Brees, didn't it?
The turning point in the game was really the on-side kick to start the second half. It was not shown during the game, but a day later they released the replay that showed Baskett with both hands on the ball and he and the ball were on the ground in contact with an opposing player. That is a recovery right there. Give Peyton the ball at mid-field and that is a guarantee for at least 3. 13-6 or more likely 17-6. That changes the game big time.
Ahhhh...nice try, but most replays I've seen clearly show the ball going off Baskett's hands, then off his helmet, then bouncing backwards towards Chris Weis, who then got the ball wedged between his legs above the kneecaps. And then, after the proverbial scrum, it clearly shows a Saints player coming up with the ball. The rule on recovery requires not just both hands and contact, but also POSSESSION... and Baskett had neither.
Now, if the Colts had regained possession of the ball, chances are pretty likely that they would have gone down the field and scored at least a field goal or a touchdown...but you just never know in a Super Bowl, don't you? The fact remains that the Saints did recover...but still, recovery didn't automatically translate into a score; the Saints still had to convert their "lucky break" into points. Perhaps the Colts D were as in on the Great Fix by refusing to stop Drew Brees as the officials apparently were, Mr. Kellett???
Also....you do know that the Colts responded to the ensuing Saints TD with a drive of their own that produced a touchdown that allowed them to regain the lead..right?? Don't you think that if there was a fix against the Colts, there would be something that would happen during that drive??
I watch the replays of the Saints highlights and in virtually every one of their big plays there were obvious holding calls that were not made. Penalties: Saints 3-19 Colts 5-45. The Colts had only five in their other two post season games. I think this is why Tony Dungy retired after the loss to San Diego. That game was stolen by the officials and this one was to. NFL politics. The integrity of the NFL is a really big question to me now. I have in the past, but this one really was blatant and a lot of people had to know to cover it up. All the analysts were in too. The TV people were clearly in to cut away and not show certain replays to cover for what the refs were doing.
Oh, really?? I mean, it's not as if Drew Brees didn't have such a quick release to throw the ball before the D could get to him, or that the Saints O line happens to have no less than three All-Pros who have been consistant in protecting their franchise QB. Or, maybe, it was the bad tackling of the Colts defenders against the Saints receivers (no less than three missed tackles on the Robert Meachem screen alone). Or, maybe Freeney's ankle just couldn't hold up for 60 minutes of football...or was the lenghty halftime show of The Who part of The Great Fix, too??
I'm surprised that Kellett didn't attempt to say that Tracy Porter's game clinching Pick-6 was invalid because he chucked Reggie Wayne illegally before jumping on the "smash" route and returning it to the house. (OK, so Bobby McCray may have blocked Manning behind the back on the runback. Some calls you miss...too bad.)
I will probably watch next season because I love me some Colt football, but I think that I have made up my mind as to what the NFL is about, and I think that it is AWFUL.
Oh, waaaaaahhhh!!! Just because your beloved team just got beat by a team you don't particularly like, you're ready to give up on the NFL.....but not your team?? Dude...you have a ring already. No one dictated that your team should win the Super Bowl every single year.
The only conspiracy that I see is in Charles Kellett's mind. For everyone else with a working brain cell, there is just clear fact. The New Orleans Saints BEAT the Indianapolis Colts through superior play, better and more aggressive playcalling, and timely plays when it mattered. Scoreboard sucks when you are on the wrong end of it, but sometimes you have to learn to accept it and move on. Goodness knows, Saints fans have had to accept it for the last 43 years.
To Charlie Kellett and Disgruntled Colts Fan: Chill out, grow a pair, accept your loss, and prepare for next year. I'm sure Sean Payton has more than enough cojones to share.
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I usually don't like to make fun of the mentally ill, but Jesus1000!!
Paranoid conspiracy theories. "if you keep doing that long enough, sooner or later you’re going to get one right… " I blame Mel Gibson.
It’s pretty hard to fix a football game. The best you could do is probably get to the kicker or maybe the quarterback. The refs can’t help, they draw too much attention and are subject to instant replay. But this sick F is talking a league wide conspiracy? A waste of 0’s and 1’s.
And now I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place.
Don't you understand, it's not my problem?
Guess somebody forgot to tell Freeny!!
I started to say these are comments by a few and as a whole of the Colts fan base is expected. Then remembered only eleven Colts fans showed to welcome them home. So much for this only being a small part of the Colts fan base. Must be all of them.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Feb 12, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
It's extremely hard to fix a championship game (or series) and even harder to get away with it
The 1919 World Series is still talked about and it is probably the height of corruption in major professional sports and that was just over 90 years ago.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Holy run-on sentence, Batman!
I still think I made my point.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Not really worth waisting time thinking about but..
Refs, Commentators, Television crew WOW that is some cover up.
I heard the Saints/Vikes game was fixed... Good thing we won anyway!
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
by Dan Kelly on Feb 11, 2010 9:47 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Well i can honestly say
I have never read the bleacher report or heard of this writer i guess thats why it doesnt upset me
He sounds like a wack job i wonder if he wears aluminum foil on his head to keep the goverment from stealing his secrets.
It amazes me that people like this have a platform to write from
There was a time when individuals like this were commited to places like Whitfield mental institution now with our new understanding and caring society they are deemed fit for every day life.
God bless the guy I hope he can remember where to catch the short bus to school everyday on his own
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 11, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions
'bleacher report' is just a bunch of homers writing articles about their teams, and occasionally writing about NFL related topics.
Don’t pay too much attention to it, and certainly, do let it get you upset.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
If this guy was right, and Manning was told the fix was in before the game
wouldn’t his “beloved Colts” be guilty of cheating and conspiracy? I really don’t think the author wants to go down that road, because Manning would be as guilty as sin.
Keep the faith!
Lol
never thought of it from that standpoint.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
I do believe that Manning threw that pass to Reggie Wayne
and missed him on purpose. It was thrown directly to Tracy Porter and created the TD to put the game away. Poor Payton!!!!!!
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
It's from Bleacher Report
That’s the problem. It was probably writtent by some thirteen year old kid. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. just when the thirteen year old kid is not very smart.
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those retards also talked about outlawing onsides kicks after half
they dont get it, they even said it was “ungentlemanly”. has anyone here heard of the unwritten rule to not go for onsides kicks? everybody is now dumber for reading any of their articles.
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 11, 2010 10:52 AM CST reply actions
It's probably a 13 year old who's main football 'education' is playing Madden online, with the "Fair Play" settings on...
.. no onside kick unless you’re losing in the 4th quarter… same thing for going to 2-pt conversion.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
But not shaking hands
Is perfectly acceptable and “gentlemanly” because he just wanted to win so bad.
And what kind of message are we sending to our kids...
that interceptions are not only part of the game, but encouraged? Gregg Williams’ style sends all the wrong messages to our future generation of leaders. We must mold our children into leaders, not theiving thugs that try to cripple role models such as Peyton Manning!
Finished Strong.
Bwhaha
it’s freaking football!!! How about the determination and dedication it takes to study hours worth of film?
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
I believe that was sarcaism
ok we need some one to make a sarcaism font
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"the earth moves when Sean Payton walks...Because his balls are just that huge." Anarchon after Super Bowl XLIV
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 11, 2010 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Unfortunately that’s not likely to happen. But a simple mod post by Saintsational could solve the problem if he would “lay down the law” really quick. It’s a simple and easy law to follow too. Any time you are being sarcastic and there’s ANY chance people might not “get it”, end your post with “/sarc”.
Or
Always add the word “SOOOO” at an opportune moment in sarcastic comment, like, “Manning was SOOOO great at reading defenses and adjusting to them on the fly.”
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
Sorry my bad
There has been so much BS lately that I don’t know what is sarcasm versus stupid comments by people who actually think that way.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
by SarahT on Feb 12, 2010 8:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Did ANY of the Colts
congratulate ANY of the Saints after the game? I didn’t even see the coaches meet for the congratulatory handshake. Maybe it happened and just wasn’t shown on t.v.
WHO DAT!!! (sue me No Fun League)
I didn’t see any of the Colts players come over to congratulate them, maybe I missed it if they did
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Feb 11, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Caldwell did shake hands with Payton
It just makes Manning’s excuse of “it was their field” when asked the question in his post game interview that much more lame. I don’t ever recall a coach or quarterback not congratulating the opposing team after a loss with the exception of Belicheck. The press has ripped him for that in the past, but they’ve let Manning get a free pass… I guess that’s another conspiricy. I always respected Peyton prior to this game. Now I hold him in about the same esteem as I do Stampede Blue.
The question is...
Did Rex Grossman and the Bears shake hands with Manning and the Colts when THEY won?
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 11, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
That's a lil different though Dr
the Saints offense and Colts defense were on the field during the last seconds…they can’t get away from congratulations. The coverage was so p&^%=poor by CBS…usually they show a wide view, and you can see the teams converging on mid field…friends seeking out friends…former teammates seeking out former teammates…coaches seeking each other out…..but this game, ifin I’m remembering right…CBS cut away right after the final tick for a commercial. It would not surprise me in the LEAST if the Colts team was as snobby, obnoxious and rude as their fans, and NOT congratulate the Saints for a good game and on their win.
WHO DAT!!! (sue me No Fun League)
Just keep in mind the NFL is a very small world .
The players on the field maybe be friends with the guys across the line and although disapointed at a lose will congradulate theirs buds out there. Manning has never been anywhere else to make a friend on the oposing team. May not have any on the Colts !! LOL
by saints-fan-in-miss on Feb 12, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Good point about Manning
except for the fact that he and Drew do have a history going back to when Drew was at Purdue. I read somewhere that Archie and Olivia Manning helped Drew and his wife find a house in the Garden District when they moved to New Orleans.
He showed himself to be a spoiled brat born with a silver spoon in his mouth who reads too many of his press clippings. He and the entire Colts organization (along with their former coach) can all go to hell. If the Saints are the new “America’s Team”, the Colts are the new Cowboys.
I hope not!
I wouldn’t want our boys to get any of that colts’ loser stink on their hands
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 11, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Probably a good thing if they didn't shake hands. The Bleacher Report would have said Payton was slipping him a check!
These people take bad losing to the lowest level. Just wait till Jesus 1000 hears about this!!!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 12, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Now JND
you know as well as I do…Jesus1000 ALREADY knows about this….and more! lol
WHO DAT!!! (sue me No Fun League)
Also
They have it on camera where Payton explained to the refs what was going to happen minus the outcome, and it happened exactly the way he explained. Obviously he wanted to have all his bases covered.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Who said that?
Please point me over to this fan so I can bash his head in.
(Please note that I am a Colts fan)
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
C Kellett should seek medical treatment immediatly.
But in his defense, we all know, the Feds assasinated JFK, Bigfoot ate my grandma,Ufo’s are for real and if you keep doing that, you’ll go blind and hair will grow on your palms.Oh, just in case the Saints had not won, I had already sent a letter to the refs wanting my money back.
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
Quick fix for the hairy palms
Just use “Neet” as your lotion and you don’t have to worry about hairy palms.
If there are any horny 13 year-olds that are by themselves please do not take the above advice, IT WAS A JOKE!!!!
The guy talks about the NFL being big business
And big business only caring about what will make them the most money. Well, in case everyone forgot, most everybody was projecting that the Vikings would give CBS the best ratings for the Super Bowl. According to a Neilson Poll a Saints/Colts matchup was the 3rd most favorable game for CBS, behind Vikings/Colts and Vikings Jets. The only matchup worse for CBS was Saints/Jets. So why would the NFL work so hard to rig a game for a team that they thought would be bad for business?
Either way, this guy, and anyone that thinks the game was rigged is a moron. I hope he never watches football again. So does that leave the Colts with only 10 people to welcome them home next year?
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
CBS ratings projections were as off the mark as the Bleacher Report's Conspiracy Theory.
The first Super Bowl the Saints ever played in accounted for the largest television audience in history. There should be little wonder why the three “once major” networks are giving up market share at an astonishing rate and cable television is making them irrelevant. Like newspapers, their day has come and gone.
25th largest market and 51st largest market's teams
combine for the most watched television show of all time.
Take THAT, Yankees.
Of course, things may change with the removal of the salary cap, but at least we won our first while parity was still alive and well!
Finished Strong.
Oh Damn, damn, damn, they weren't supposed to find out.
Who told them?? Who let the cat out of the bag?? Do you think they know that Drew was actually having a bad game until they LET him complete 24 passes in a row!!. And Hank Baskett must be pissed- he was told to let the onsides kick hit “him in the helmet.” Reggie Wayne eas told to let the last pas of the game go thru his hands, he never misses passes like those. And I saw Freeney out on the dance floor at a disco later that night- his ankle
looked fine to me.
And that Colt on the bottom the pile on the onsides kick- I heard right before he gave the ball to Reis he autographed it!! That’s way cool.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
How much cover up can the NFL really do,
especially with all the internet “reporters” now days as well as all the people picking apart the game, looking for anything they can point out to make them look knowledgeable and/or prove the game was fixed because their team didn’t win?
There are several hundred people involved in the production of the Superbowl and you cannot tell me with the amount of people it would take to pull off a cover up of that size someone wouldn’t go to the media. Also there are multiple highlights showing how elated the Colts players were on some of their big plays. I guess they received acting lessons before the game?
And how ridiculous is it to base A COVER UP off of the look ON SOMEONE’S FACE? That’s so totally retarded words cannot express what level of stupidity that theory is on.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
The fans were in on it too,,,,,,,,,,They didn't even go watch........
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Honestly though
I think what has happened with these fans is that all season long their team won. After months of winning you begin to think they are invincible and it’s hard to handle when they actually loose because at that point you’re not just loosing a game, you’re realizing the guys you idolize are actually human.
It’s just like a lot of people being SO devastated after the Cowboys game. It happened to me. Even if you think your above believing in it some piece of you, however small, is secretly feeling that way. You love them so much you can’t help but put them on a pedestal. One of the great things about football is these elite football players have reached statuses most men could never come close to reaching.
Then it all comes crashing down and boom – some people can handle it, and others have to come up with ridiculous theories because there is no way for them to face the truth. In some cases you are dealing with the only way people have to escape, maybe from horrible situations in their lives, and to take it from them feels like death.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Ouch...
It’s just like a lot of people being SO devastated after the Cowboys game.
That was me…. I’m a little embarrassed about some of the things I posted after that game
Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die!
WHO DAT?!
by LA_No1_SaintFan on Feb 11, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Saints let the cowboys win
I know what you are talking about, Sean Payton let the cowboys win so Wade Philips and tony homo could keep their jobs. He knew that if he won that game, he would be expected to go undefeated and he wanted to start resting his starters for the playoff run.
And if you believe that BS, you must be a blonde.
I like it!! I love it!! I want some mo of it!! Supa Bowl Rings, Dat Is!!
Here is
another Bleacher report calling the onsides kick “dirty pool”:
Ah, what could take away the joy of watching two great quarterbacks duel it out in a Super Bowl, having a snack at half-time anticipating seeing Peyton Manning and the Colts drive down field with the first second-half possession after making their usual adept adjustments during the break?
Dirty pool by Sean Payton, in the form of an onside kick to start the second half, could take away that joy.
Although it was a legal play by existing NFL rules, there has always been an unwritten rule, a gentleman’s rule that you do not attempt an onside kick to start a half.
At any other time on a kickoff, fine, but when you win the coin toss, you only get to receive the ball to start a half once. You don’t get to break the rack in nine-ball 2 times in a row.
That's one of the stupider things I've ever heard.
That onside kick call was brilliant, and I give massive props to Payton for having the guts to call that.
I hate how some of these people give bad impressions of Colts fans.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
So if you kick off normally
and while running the ball back, the player is stripped of it and the kicking off team recovers….I guess we’re (the kicking off team) are supposed to say…“Ooops, sorry about that…here, take the ball on the xx yd. line. We didn’t mean to strip you of it!”
WHO DAT!!! (sue me No Fun League)
First NFL football is not a gentlemans game.
What about all the gentlemen Colts who came over to congradulate the Saints players and staff.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Feb 12, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, pullleeeeeeze!!!!! "Dirty pool"?!?!? LOLOL....Yeah, right.
Oh, wait a minute…I guess that according to that brilliant logic (sarcasm here), Payton should have told the Colts before hand that he was going to do the “Ambush” thing and given them a chance to react and recover..all so that Peyton could get the glory of driving down the field.
And…did this fool remember that Indy just happened to march down the field and score after the Saints scored the TD resulting from the onside kick??
Maybe I should retitle this post: “Delusion: Not The Latest Gillette Razor Brand From Indy”. WOW. They really can’t handle “Scoreboard” up there, can they??
Anthony
there has always been an unwritten rule, a gentleman’s rule that you do not attempt an onside kick to start a half.
…especially if your team is not the one kicking off.
I’m calling BS. I’ve been watching the NFL for 45 years and I’ve never heard of this.
And now I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place.
Don't you understand, it's not my problem?
Yeah... it is complete and utter garbage.
Teams have started games with onside kicks. They kicked onside kicks when they had a lead. There is no ‘unwritten rule’.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
Phil Simms, of all people, was in a perfect position to point out the “bad taste” of that play, if it was there, and he didn’t Simms only thought it was too risky. If Phil Simms doesn’t want to take an opportunity to call out the perceived inferior team for taking an unfair advantage over the favorite, I’m inclined to believe it was perfectly legitimate.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
Part of me thinks that stuff like this is how the 9/11 conspiracy stuff got started
The internet gives every moron a voice. And for every moron with a voice there are at least 10 morons that will think it makes perfect sense and agree with them.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
To be fair
I think Kellett is just a massive troll. There’s no way he believes half the drivel spewed from his mouth.
Read his responses to comments on his post – he’s outlandish, lacks any logic whatsoever, and seems to say things just to incite murderous rage in others. Definitely the markings of a king troll.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
I think Bleacher report has to do some serious self-evaluating
if they continue to publish stuff like this they will soon be extinct.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Bleacher report
is starting to sound a lot like the Onion’s sports page
Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.
by alcoholic_insight on Feb 11, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
That's my point
I’m pretty sure it’s just a big joke.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Amen to that!
You can't fix stupid - Ron White
by SBookerSaintsFan on Feb 11, 2010 7:21 PM CST reply actions
we should take up donations
and apply little league Political correct rules in for the whinning colts and colt fans and give every player a trophy because there is no loosers in little league and all LOOSER players in the superbowl should get them a trophy, This is about as stupid as the idiots gentlemen game theory…
They could give out trophys from MVP down.
Like second place all the way to 52nd. Then all would have their egos fluffed. Don’t know about the guy in 52and place . LOL
by saints-fan-in-miss on Feb 13, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
To be fair to Colts Fan, though...
Steve Montana is getting absolutely torched and burnt alive in the comments section for his “dirty pool” post.
So, not everybody in Indy is as delusional as he is.
Anthony
Well...two weeks has pased, and the delusions still reign amongst some in Indy.
Get a load of this comment posted today to my Bleacher Report article rebutting Steve Montana.
Paul Crain 259141 N12347641969726_comment posted about 11 hours ago 1266852604 1927040 Paul
Anthony,
While I live in the Indianapolis area, I am first and foremost a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. That being said, I was sitting in my living room on a dreary Sunday morning watching a recap of the post season games, including Super Bowl 44. During the presentation of the Super Bowl, there is a captured moment in time that I believes… utterly screams of a planned conspiracy to hand an NFL championship to the city of New Orleans. During a pre-game handshake between head coach Sean Payton and Mike Pereira, Vice President of Officiating for the NFL, they discuss the planned on-side kick that occurred at the beginning of the second half of the game. While watching the game, I had concerns about the validity of the call which gave possession of the ball to the Saints and, quite effectively, changed the momentum of the game. Firstly, in what is undoubtedly the biggest game of the season, there was not a camera angle that provided definitive proof as to who recovered the loose ball. Secondly, there were obvious personal foul calls that were blatantly ignored by the officiating crew. However, as a former player and coach, you quickly realize that those types of things happen and you just continue to play.
Fast forward to this morning and the aforementioned converasation between the Saints head coach and the VP of Officiating. I am not normally a conspiracy theorist, but this was a situation that immediately struck me as being a questionable moment that happened to be caught on tape. The fact that they were discussing this play at all, before the game began, is enough to make anyone wonder. Again, this is the biggest game of the season and undoubtedly the biggest game of head coach Paytons career. Does any rational thinking person honestly think that he had discussed any part of his gameplan with ANYONE outside of the Saints organization, including the direction of the kick? Honestly? The answer to that question is a resounding “NO”! Unless, of course, the outcome of that “courageous” call was predetermined. Unfortunately, there are recent examples from other major sports(NBA and Heavyweight boxing) that shows us that championships can be predetermined. Apparently we need to begin questioning the validity of the National Football League as well…again, unfortunately.
Yeah, right….in fact, what Coach Payton probably was mentioning to the officials was that Zach Strief would be used during the game as a “tackle elegible” H-back/tight end, and maybe to give the officials a heads up about a possible onside kick. As if that in any way gave the Saints any points directly, or stopped the Colts from attempting to recover the kick…or from driving for a TD their first possession of the first half.
Oh..and meeting with the Director of Officialting is slightly different from meeting with the actual officiating crew. Unless he was out on the field making the call, I’d assume that it was just small talk.
Scoreboard still sucks when you are on the wrong side of it, doesn’t it?? Too bad some folk still can’t accept it and move on. Too bad…still our Lombardi Trophy.
Anthony
Hey! Did you notice during the opening coin toss they made Brees actually tell the ref what side of the coin he wanted?
Yep, sumptin’s up here!
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by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 24, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
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