Hell Hath No Fury Like a Who Dat's Scorned
by Dave Cariello on Feb 12, 2010 6:00 AM CST
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PrintEarlier this week while wrapping up my Super Bowl XLIV thoughts I told you I had exposed only "the tip of the 'You deserve everything you get for doubting the Saints' iceberg that I plan on spewing at all of the main stream media morons and near-sighted naysayers" who didn't believe in the Saints.
That might have been a little harsh.
I had actually thought better of it, changed my mind, and figured I probably ought to just leave it alone. Wouldn't want to rub it in and appear like a spoiled sport. But last night I was perusing the interweb and saw this on ESPN's Super Bowl homepage...
Oh, this is too easy. Nah. On second thought, I don't think I should, it would - OKAY! If you really want me to! But you asked for it.
After the jump you'll find my take on each of the 54 Super Bowl predictions made before the game by former and current players, analysts, writers etc. compiled by ESPN. I figured that most people picked the Colts, so right off the bat I'm thinking this is gonna be fun; a good chance to say "I told ya so."
Turns out I was right. It amazes me how little faith people had in the Saints. Upon further review and after doing the math, thirty-six of those predictions, or 66%, were made in the Colts favor, so ESPN can expect this experiment to contain significantly more panning and very little praising.
Sit back, relax as we stick it to everyone who didn't believe in our team and applaud the few who did. Let's begin, shall we?
Predictions Featured in Video
Lawrence Taylor
Pick: Colts
For Peyton Manning to have a bad game, that's going to be a stretch...I find it hard to see him losing this game.
Manning love right out of the gate. Surprising. How hard is it to see Peyton losing now, Larry?
Shannon Sharpe
Pick: Colts
It would be hard for me to pick against Peyton Manning.
Fortunately, Tracy Porter didn't find it hard to pick against Peyton Manning. Ow! Zing! I'll be here all week, try the veal.
Pick: Colts
I don't know how you can beat Peyton Manning.
Just because you couldn't do it doesn't mean it's not possible.
Pick: Colts
I'm probably gonna have to say the Colts. I've been playing Peyton for the last seven years. I think he'll pull it off.
This Peyton Manning lovefest is getting a bit ridiculous.
Pick: Colts
I like the Colts. I like Peyton Manning. You know when he played here four years ago against the Bears obviously he controlled the game pretty well.
You guys know that there are other people on the team besides Peyton Manning, right?
Pick: Colts
It's another Peyton Manning Super Bowl win...I'm seeing the Colts winning this one.
They don't know that there are other people on the team besides Peyton Manning.
Warren Moon
Pick: Colts
I hope the best teams wins and I think the best team right now is Indianapolis.
Bad pick but at least Moon acknowledges the presence of the 52 other players.
Jim Mcmahon
Pick: Undecided
I don't really care who wins.
Thank you for your time, Jim. Moving on...
Pick: Undecided
The defense that makes the most plays.
Ray nailed it!
Anfernee Hardaway
Pick: Saints
I'll say Saints by seven.
It takes a former NBA player to finally pick the Saints. Unbelievable. Why are they asking Hardaway anyway?
Pick: Saints
Saints by two.
I see what he's doing here. He's trying to rationalize that if the Saints won the Super Bowl and the Cowboys beat the Saints then the Cowboys could have easily won the Super Bowl.
Josh Cribbs
Pick: Saints
I'm gonna have to go with the Saints...they have more of a story to tell. I think if they win it will be so much greater than if the Colts win.
Finally a man with some sense.
Eric Dickerson
Pick: Saints
Honestly, you know I played for the Colts, but I gotta say I'm pulling for the Saints...I'd just like something good to happen to that organization. So I'm pulling for the Saints.
I guess I'll take sympathy over stupidity.
ESPN Experts
John Clayton
Pick: Colts, 27-24
In what should be the close game, Peyton Manning's experience playing in a Super Bowl should be the difference. With seven fourth-quarter comebacks this season and two weeks to prepare for the Saints' defense, Manning will slip past Drew Brees and New Orleans with one or two crucial fourth-quarter scoring drives.
Clayton would have bombed in our weekly prediction contest.
Jeffri Chadiha
Pick: Colts, 31-21
Indianapolis has the edge in offense, defense and Super Bowl experience. In other words, this could get ugly.
I'm gonna take it easy on you, Chadiha, and go the poetic route on this one by saying: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Tim Graham
Pick: Colts, 38-31
Two quarterbacks who know how to exploit a defense's weakness will make Super Bowl XLIV a humdinger. The difference will be the greatest quarterback of this generation shredding the NFL's 25th-ranked defense.
Ugh. Was this a cut-and-paste job? What a rote answer. And "humdinger"? Really?
Paul Kuharsky
Pick: Colts, 33-20
In the end, Peyton Manning's precision is more than the Saints' defense can handle over 60 minutes. He lifts the Lombardi Trophy again, and his critics have to get more creative. The Colts' D gets some notice too.
Peyton Manning's precision? Please watch this short film I've prepared...
Len Pasquarelli
Pick: Colts, 27-17
Too much
PeytonPayton forPaytonPeyton.
Fixed that for you.
Mike Sando
Pick: Colts, 34-27
Peyton Manning was much more impressive dismantling the Jets than Drew Brees was attacking the Vikings. The Saints have shown plenty capable, but I'm more inclined to trust Manning over the course of four quarters. He can make every possession count.
No wonder Peyton was so upset after the game. All of these people who had so much confidence in him were let down. Sad, really.
Kevin Seifert
Pick: Colts, 31-21
The Saints' defense is smart and quick. Peyton Manning is smarter and quicker.
This prediction is not smart and not quick. Heh, let that one sink in for a little. Stings a bit, doesn't it? I know.
Pat Yasinskas
Pick: Saints, 31-24
The only difference between Peyton Manning and Drew Brees is that Manning has a Super Bowl ring and Brees doesn't. That's about to change.
Finally! Glad to see Pat's got his head on straight. He's been following the team the entire year so I expect him to know a little something. Check out the score prediction, too. He nailed the Saints. Pat just went up a notch in my book. Well played. I'll remember this, Pat.
ESPN.com writers
Matt Mosley
Pick: Saints, 28-24
New Orleans had no business beating the Vikings in the NFC title game, and that's why this feels like one of those destiny situations to me. The Colts have the edge at QB, but I think Sean Payton will put together a masterful game plan.
This one started off bad - I almost didn't even read the second sentence - but ended on a high note.
James Walker
Pick: Colts, 30-20
In a game filled with offense, I'm going with the better defense. I'm shocked the Colts are not getting credit for posting second-half shutouts in back-to-back playoff games.
I'm shocked you [edited for content] !
Bill Williamson
Pick: Saints, 37-34
Be prepared for a game you'll remember forever: Mix two great quarterbacks who always answer the bell with two defenses that can be vulnerable to the big play and you have the makings of a festival of points. Drew Brees will deliver the final dagger and send Bourbon Street into instant Mardi Gras mode.
Not much of a festival of points but definitely right about the festival downtown.
Greg Garber
Pick: Colts, 27-21
Indy has been here -- literally, in Miami -- and done that. Experience takes down first-time Saints.
You know what you can do with your experience?
Elizabeth Merrill
Pick: Colts, 31-21
You got the sense, right after that wild November comeback win over the Patriots, that nothing fazes these Colts. And they're so comfortable in Miami. Some of them are sleeping in the same hotel rooms they did three years ago, when they won Super Bowl XLI.
If we're using games against the Patriots as barometers of success, how about including the fact that the Saints didn't even need a comeback against the Patriots. And if we're comparing statement comeback wins let's also refer to the Saints wins in Miami and Washington.
Gregg Easterbrook
Pick: Colts, 20-17
I pick 20-17 not because I have any reason to think that score will happen; 20-17 is simply the most common NFL outcome, happened 11 times this season.
Now that we know how you chose the score would you care to tell us why you chose the Colts?
David Fleming
Pick: Saints, 37-34
The bigger the game the more likely finesse yields to physical.
Hmmm. Interesting.
DJ Gallo
Pick: Saints, 30-24
New Orleans and Indianapolis have similar defenses. But the Saints' offense is more explosive. That's why I am picking them. Of course, if the Colts win, I was just joking with my pick.
Way to cover your butt.
Sal Paolantonio
Pick: Colts, 28-17
Indianapolis won't turn it over five times, and Peyton Manning kills the blitz.
See, the problem with this prediction was that Sal assumed the Saints would come out with the exact same game plan for the Colts they had when they beat the Vikings in the NFC Championship. Pretty nearsighted, Sal.
Seth Wickersham
Pick: Saints, 34-28
The NFC is simply stronger than the AFC this year. The Saints' road to the Super Bowl was tougher than the Colts', whose defense won't look as good against Drew Brees as it did against Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez.
Boom! Rec'd it!
Gene Wojciechowski
Pick: Colts, 28-21
The Colts can stick it to all the people who thought they shouldn't have sat their starters against the Jets in Week 16.
The debate will continue to rage on.
Rick Reilly
Pick: Saints, 27-24
Because I am sick to death of being happy for the Mannings.
I love Rick Reilly. I wish he'd never left Sports Illustrated's back page. He was the best part of that magazine.
ESPN analysts
Chris Berman
Pick: Colts, 31-21
Both quarterbacks will have big games. I don't think it's quite the pinball-wizard, high-scoring affair we think it's going to be, but there will still be plenty of points. Peyton Manning may be playing the best football of his career, which is saying a mouthful.
<Insert tasteless, food or sex related joke referencing Berman using the word "mouthful" here>
Pick: Saints, 35-31
The Saints' offense dominates the game, not only finishes drives with touchdowns but gives Peyton limited opportunities.
Dilfer's the only one with any sense on that channel. He's backed the Saints all year.
Pick: Colts, 38-23
The NFL's Most Valuable Player will prove his worth once again. Too much Peyton -- Colts win.
Drew Brees is pretty good. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Trey Wingo
Pick: Colts, 37-24
Peyton at the peak of his powers.
Alliteration doesn't make it true.
Mike Tirico
Pick: Colts, 34-26
A day for the offenses and the masters of the quarterback craft. I feel a strong emotional pull toward the Saints but can't go against the best on the biggest stage. Peyton is the gold standard.
Should have trusted your emotions.
Pick: Colts, 35-31
No team has beaten the Colts all year.
Ummm...pretty sure that's not true. Yup, just checked. The Colts lost two games this season.
Herm Edwards
Pick: Colts, 31-27
The winningest play-caller of the decade, Peyton Manning, will have the biggest impact in this game. Manning's ability to keep his poise under pressure will allow him to focus on the job at hand.
I'll never forget the time Herm said the New Orleans Saints would be a great fit for Michael Vick. I turned the volume down on him after that.
Scott Van Pelt
Pick: Saints, 28-24
Not one human thinks this can happen, so I will take the Saints (and I'm not happy about it).
Van Pelt subscribing to the George Costanza opposite theory. If every instinct the MSM has is wrong, then the opposite would have to to be true! Must be a bald guy thing.
Jon Gruden
Pick: Saints, 30-27
It's the Saints' year. Who Dat!
Greatest. Prediction. Ever. You gotta love Gruden. I think he and Payton have man crushes on each other. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me Gruden would have a position on the Saints coaching staff sometime in the future.
Matt Millen
Pick: Colts, 35-31
The Saints' defense is similar to the Jets' in what they try to do and how they give you different looks. They play great as a unit, but it will take Peyton about a half to figure it out.
Yet another in a long line of bad choices by Millen.
Scouts Inc.
Jeremy Green
Pick: Saints, 34-31
With so much hype surrounding the prolific passing offenses in this game the run games have been overlooked. The Saints will run the ball and stop the run, and that will be the difference.
It's the thought that counts.
Gary Horton
Pick: Colts, 31-21
Peyton Manning can carve up even elite defenses. The Saints do not fit in that category, but at least they are opportunistic. Manning will make the necessary adjustments, and the Saints will be shocked at the speed of the Colts' defense.
There's that word "shocked" again. You'd think the Saints were completely out of there element. Like the Bears or something.
Doug Kretz
Pick: Colts, 31-26
Even if Dwight Freeney is unable to play, the Colts will put too much pressure on Drew Brees as well as on the back end with their cover corners. Both teams will score plenty, but Peyton Manning will end up with the ball at the end and punch it in.
It's funny because Freeney was the only one who did get to Brees.
Ken Moll
Pick: Colts, 30-20
Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis have been held at bay (zero sacks) in the postseason, but will get to Drew Brees in this game coming off the edge. If Peyton Manning had had this year's Colts' defense in previous seasons, he would have won at least one more Super Bowl.
Yep, this was definitely the defense the Colts needed to win the Super Bowl.
Matt Williamson
Pick: Colts, 30-21
This is the score I picked when I wrote my scouting report and I will stick with it, although the more I dig into it, the more I feel like the Colts will win by double digits. Because of nerves and being on such a huge stage, expect the Saints to start slowly. That won't happen to Peyton Manning.
Good thing you stopped digging there and avoided making yourself look ever more silly.
ESPN.com NFL editors
John Banks
Pick: Colts, 35-24
The only question will be where this Indianapolis team will rank in NFL history. Better than three-time winner New England? Better than the Steelers of the 2000s? Anybody think anyone else but Peyton Manning will be this game's MVP?
Screw dat.
Jamar Hudson
Pick: Colts, 31-27
In what will go down as one of the best Super Bowls ever, Peyton Manning will engineer a late fourth-quarter drive to give the Colts the win and solidify his spot among the all-time greats.
Screw dat.
Alex Kimball
Colts, 31-27
The Saints have a shot after scoring a late touchdown, but they fall short of the end zone in the final seconds.
Screw dat.
Sheldon Spencer
Pick: Saints, 38-24
Beano Cook says this is going to happen. Who are we to argue?
Your cool.
Patrick Stiegman Colts, 35-24
Three reasons the winningest franchise of the decade will add another Super Bowl title: (1) The Colts will boast eight of the top 10 players on the field, and they are all at explosive, play-making positions -- QB, WR, TE and DE; (2) The Colts converted nearly 50 percent of their third-down opportunities in 2009; (3) Toss out the two meaningless games after clinching home field, and the Colts were plus-6 in turnover margin. The Saints will score, but the Colts will soar.
Screw dat.
Scott Symmes
Pick: Colts, 32-24
In 2009 (and 2010), we haven't seen the Colts fall short when their sole focus was winning. We won't see it on Sunday, either. Peyton Manning will be a step ahead of the Saints' defense and will guide Indy to a semi-comfortable victory.
Screw dat! I'm out! (<-----bad language)
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We ought to have the ability to rec a post
multiple times like maybe once a year- I would do that here!! Great job Dave- appreciate it!
Did you ever hear the Italian term for guys like these? I am not sure how to spell it- stewnod- that’s not the right spelling but maybe you get my idea.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Ha ha ha
Great job Dave i love reading all these experts now i hope their publications make them retract everything they said
And your right John Gruden is the man
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 12, 2010 6:27 AM CST reply actions
This should be mailed to ESPN.com
I’d like to give out a big, hearty FU*K YOU to every analyst that bought into the Manning-hype and crowned the Colts before they even took the field.
This, coming from a self-admitted Manning-lover.
“The Saints are who we THOUGHT they were!…and we let’em off the hook!”
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
Actually, there is a lesson to be learned here
With almost perfect unanimity, those picking the Colts did so because they believed Peyton Manning was unstoppable. Turns out they weren’t wrong about the Colts so much as they were wrong about Peyton Manning.
"We’re running Ambush."
the correct response would be...
This is the score I picked when I wrote my scouting report and I will stick with it, although the more I dig into it, the more I feel like the Colts will win by double digits. Because of nerves and being on such a huge stage, expect the Saints to start slowly. That won’t happen to Peyton Manning.
Good thing you stopped digging there and avoided making yourself look ever more silly.
the better response wouldve been from a clip from a little movie called the cable guy.
“Well dont dig too deep or youll get burned by the molten LAVA!”
This made my day
Say what you want about Jim McMahon, but his “I don’t care” pick has gotta rank in the top 25% as far as correctness when compared to the rest of these stinkers.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
i liked it
let me precede this message with Im a giants fan.
i see three reasons why people would pick the saints if they themselves are not a saints fan.
1- They have a friend who blogs about the saints, so he wants him to experience a superbowl win as i got to experience not too long ago.
2 – The city of New Orleans gets the sympathy vote. Since Katrina, anyone who has ever been to the city of New Orleans has been rooting for the team and the city to get on top and overcome the past.
3 – they have money riding on the saints winning.
So i had all three of those.
Usually though, like last years superbowl, i couldnt care less about who won the superbowl…. as long as i went home with a little more money than i came with and hopefully the commercials were not lame.
#4. They actually wacthed the Saints play this season and realized they were the better team...
Better offense.
Better defense.
Better special teams.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
you bet on the Saints?
good boy
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 12, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
I won $80
on a $20, 4:1 bet I made (before the playoffs started) that the Saints would win the Super Bowl.
I honestly tried to make a $20 bet before the season started; that was 40:1 if I remember correctly. It would’ve been sweet, but the Super Bowl win wouldn’t have been any more special!
Finished Strong.
These are all the reasons I don’t want people to have for picking the Saints. They EARNED a win through superior play. They EARNED pick-’em consideration with bettors by being every bit as good as Indy for the entire season. A lot of this falls in the “what have they done lately?” rationale for giving Indy favorable consideration, because they routed the Jets, and the Saints had a tough game against the Vikings. Maybe, just maybe, that had something to do with the fact that the Vikings were a better team than the Jets.
The other part is experience. Well, hindsight being 20/20, we see that experience got the Colts approximately 15 minutes of dominance in a 60 minute game.
Picking the Saints should have been a 50/50 venture, because the Saints were just as good as the Colts this season. They might have actually given points to the Colts, based on the superiority of the NFC this season. But nothing about the Saints screamed “sympathy vote” this year, and I, for one, didn’t want anybody to say, “Well, the city really deserves a win”, or, “My heart says New Orleans”. Sure, those things are true, but the other thing the city, and all those hearts really needed was for New Orleans to actually BE the best. These weren’t the Bad News Bears that played in the Super Bowl. It was the best team, from the best conference. Nobody wants to be given anything. They wanted to take everything, and they did.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
This is exactly my thoughts...
hit it on the nail. You have to earn the favor. I didn’t take it personal at all that people were choosing the Colts, I expected it! And I didn’t think the media was favoring them because I was feeling good seeing all the feel-good stories about how New Orleans needs this win. We earned this championship for sure but we better not get too high on our horses, we can be this Goliath one day too and then we’ll be saying the same things that the Colts fans are saying now and blah blah blah…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Saintsational
Dave – I like your style man.
MSM proves just how ignorant they are. 66% of picks against the Saints, and I wonder what that number would be once you removed the “sympathy” votes. Probably in the 80-90% range.
All we heard about all week was Manning’s intelligence and how he would outsmart the Saints (not to mention the, “they did the same thing on this field…THREE YEARS AGO…” how is that relevant to anything in athletics?
I love nothing more than the fact that Saints, as a team, outsmarted Manning…culminated by the 2nd year corner out of Indiana taking a pick to the house on the biggest stage just when the “machine” they refer to as Manning was supposed to shine.
Maybe next time
All these ney-sayers should come on over to CSC and Let us tell them who’s gonna win it.If they would have listened to us , they would be genius’.
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
Gallo's pick is pretty good
The butt covering is just because he’s a humor columnist, I don’t think he really meant it.
And “didn’t need a comeback to beat the Pats” is pretty charitable of you. It was in that moment that I predicted them to win the Super Bowl (and got all kinds of crap).
Interestingly, in my 11/66 pool of pretty knowledgeable football guys, 13/21 picked New Orleans to win straight up, including 5 of the top 8 heading into the Super Bowl. So, some people were paying attention.
Go Pats!
by Female Patriots Enthusiast on Feb 12, 2010 8:17 AM CST reply actions
Playoff Predictions
Great job! I wish I could find the SI playoff predictions. One or two of their experts had the Saints in the SB, but losing, of course. Most seemed to like the Chargers and Greenbay early so after a round or two the whole thing vanished from the SI site. I’d make a poor “expert” myself since I’ve been rooting for the Saints since 1967 (“Wait till next year!”) Until this year, my greatest sports experience was being in Tulane Stadium when Dempsey kicked his 63 yarder. This year that was replaced by Hartley’s kick to beat the Vikings, which was then replaced by Porter’s pick. Go Saints!!!!
SI Midyear Super Bowl Prediction was
Chargers vs. Saints, with Saints winning. I can’t link it, but I subscribe and I saw it in the magazine after the 8th game, or 8th week.
by BRSaintsFan on Feb 12, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
What about Tony Dungy
I quote
“I think they’re [COLTS] going to be so far ahead that people are going to say, ‘Oh, ho-hum, he played a good game, they won by two scores, the Colts won their second championship,’ " Dungy said of Manning on Thursday. “He’s going to have those rings Sunday night. I don’t think it’s going to be close.”
He's right, it wasn't close
We outscored the Colts 31-7 after the first quarter. Oh, he meant MANNING. Who’da thunk?
"We’re running Ambush."
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Dungy looks like he's from Outer Space?
I was sick of this E.T. looking bozo being treated like he was the elder statesman of football before this goofy prediction. I’ve always wondered how this guy was a successful coach. Can you imagine him giving a pep talk in the locker room? You would think Mr. Low Key would put people to sleep.
But Caldwell seems just as uninspiring. The MSM calls it “business like”. The rest of the world calls it boring… just like the city and state they represent.
ay don't be messing with Caldwell...
he’s from my hometown and it’s bad enough I didn’t even have an inkling of sadness that he didn’t win a superbowl.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Peyton Manning is from my hometown and I’ve begun to hate him.
by Drew-Dat on Feb 12, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
people are funny...
Why hate Manning himself? He’s a great QB and he didn’t ask to be crowned. He’s just an opposing QB, yall kill me how yall start hating people that are just people who benefit from hard work and determination. Isn’t that what this country is all about, “pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps?” lol. I don’t like TO, or Pacman Jones but they give you something to hate…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
by TAYDIGGA on Feb 12, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You're right, and I don't hate him
…but I have less respect for him than before. I was willing to concede that he was one of the greatest before this game; but he did nothing, really, on the biggest stage of all. Yeah, he piled up some yards, but come on…17 points? The great Peyton Manning and the invincible Colts, and they score 17 points!?
I suppose that disses our defense, who had a lot to do with that score; but great players are supposed to step up in the Super Bowl, right? Peyton just sat down. Makes you wonder if the term “great” really applies.
"We’re running Ambush."
I still think he's great...
Just think its the nature of the game. You win some you lose some. Like how this year Lebron might actually get that ring from my boy Kobe. It’s bound to happen. But if it doesn’t, I’m still thinking Lebron is dope. Him and Kobe both (although D-Wade is my favorite player) are probably the best right now and in that second circle of people behind Michael Jordan, who I don’t think anyone can match up against as far as great. Anyhow, it happens great players make mistakes but they learn from them…I’m sure Payton will get another ring (I’m trying to be objective here) and I’m sure Brees will one day screw it up. It always happens sooner or later.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Even great Quarterbacks have bad games. Even in the Super Bowl.
Manning may or may not have asked to be crowned. And, I don’t really hate him. My original statement was intended to be somewhat tongue in cheek.
However, I wouldn’t call the son of an NFL quarterback blessed with near perfect “football genes” and born into a life of wealth and priviledge as being someone who “pulled themselves up by the bootstraps”. In fact, he may have had the one of the easiest paths to the NFL of anyone to have ever played. Not saying that deminishes his accomplishments; just saying that it’s not exactly a case of overcoming major obstacles standing in the way of reaching his goals.
I have lost a large amount or respect for Peyton. His actions immediately following the game was one of the worst examples of poor sportsmanship by a team leader I have ever seen. He acted like a spoiled child who was upset that he didn’t get his way. Having an astute understanding of public relations, he has since tried to put as good of a spin as possible on his walking off the field without congratulating his opponent. But, I’m not buying it.
I think my disappointment and loss of respect was magnified by the fact that I had previously placed the Manning’s on such a high pedestal. It certainly has nothing to do with his being the “opposing quarterback or his hard work and determination”. If the truth be known, I suspect that Archie would agree that his son’s selfish display after the game was much more disappointing than his performance during it.
I was being facetious with that one, it was a political statement...sorry
the bootstraps comment.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
i think people make a big deal about the "he didn't shake hands crap"
I could see if someone tried to and he didn’t, he was disappointed. Think about it, these guys expose themselves to the world and get criticized for it like very few people do. I know, I know, the get paid millions. But isn’t the money just for playing. We sit here on blogs, analyst on ESPN do it, and millions of magazines and etc., criticize these guys on and off the field and its rough! If I through that pick I’d be too ticked to talk too, its not really that big of a deal. One question, Drew-Dat you’re older huh? If so it would explain your conservative expectations of these guys. And there’s nothing wrong with that—just know…things change.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
People making a big deal out of his not shaking hands isn't "crap".
To use reverse logic on your words….. One question, Taydigga. You’re younger huh? If so, it would explain a juvenile lack of expectations of these guys. And there’s nothing wrong with that—-just know…. some things don’t change.
Some things should remain constant in our expectations of what is considered appropriate behavior; particularly when it involves the behavior of someone whom you admire.
To answer your question…. yes, I’m older. About the same age as Bill Belichick. but considerably younger than Buddy Ryan. In the past, both of these men have walked off the field after a loss without paying any regard to the age old tradition of the sportsmanship connected with shaking the hand of one’s opponent. At the time of doing so, both were heavily criticized and rightfully so. Is that because they were older and therefore held to a higher standard?
Opposite of Belichick and Ryan, Jim Caldwell did manage to seek out Sean Payton and congradulate him for his victory even though he was surely very disappointed in his team’s loss. The implication you make is Peyton’s lack of doing the same should somehow be overlooked because he is of a different generation and he was just “ticked” because he threw an interception. I’m sure Bill Billichick and Buddy Ryan were also “ticked”….. but all three should be open to the same criticism. There are some codes of conduct and tradition that still exist and should be adhered to for no other reason than because it is the right thing to do.
You said you don’t like T.O. or Pacman Jones because “they give you something to hate”. Is that because you are a racist??? I sincerely doubt it. But were I to make such an assumption, it would make as much sense as your assuming my disappointment with Peyton Manning’s post game behavior was because of “conservative expectations” due to my age.
I understand where you're coming from but...
I never said what he did should be excused because he’s younger…so you’re arguing against your own interpretation. I said that I don’t view it as a big deal. Should he shake hands? Sure. Does it justify a loss of respect for the guy? That’s debatable…Drew Brees said it himself, “Mannings a classy guy” because he called Brees after the game and congratulated him. And if he made a habit of doing this non-handshaking thing, then sure I’d say its ridiculous and juvenile. But I also understand that in his situation (pressure, media attention, the loss itself and his reputation) you kinda lose your marbels and feel like crap. Some guys don’t and can go over there and shake hands and congratulate right away—good for them! But in no way is he less of this or that because he was upset with himself for letting his team down.
I’m black so the TO and Pacman Jones analagy doesn’t really work (but i can see what you were trying to say—i get it) and yeah I made an assumption…i think you totally misread it and overanalyzed it but out of respect for my elders I will apologize if I offended you. I realize it’s about personal principles and if you feel like you lost respect for Manning then I can respect that because that’s how you feel. I think the problem with my “juvenile” generation is that we always feel like we have to right every (perceived) wrong. My bad Drew.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
boom rec'd it Tay
Well you think you're gonna find yourself a little piece of paradise.
But it ain't happened yet, so girl, you better think twice.
YUP!!!!
Born there, Moved to Ft. Worth when I was three and then to Rockford, IL then to back to Beloit at 10-11ish. I usually say milwaukee because no one has heard of B-city. Danika Patrick hails from there too, she’s about as good as we got. Kyle Weaver from the Thunder is from there, I actually knew him but he’s not doing much. Anyway, I live in Los Angeles now if that tells you anything about how boring of a place it was…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Drew Dat, are you a Vince Lombardi fan? Take it easy on Tony Dungy. One, he built that Tampa Bay Super Bowl team that Gruden inherited. Two, he built that Colts team that stumbled and bumbled and finally won the title game in 2007. Three, the guy does not cuss and yell because he does not have to do that to earn his players’ respect and loyalty. Four, who actually thought he would not pick the Colts? He’s loyal too. Just has developed a big mouth in retirement.
I don’t know Caldwell at all. Seems like a rookie coach to me. 2 grades ahead of that kid in Tampa now. 2 grades behind Lovie Smith. (“Can you imagine being coached by a man named Lovie? Who would listen to that pep talk in the locker room?” Yeah, Lovie’s team kicked the Saints’ ass in the 2006 NFC Championship game, so there you go.)
Well you think you're gonna find yourself a little piece of paradise.
But it ain't happened yet, so girl, you better think twice.
I never said Dungy wasn't a successful coach.
I just said I always wondered how he was a successful coach. I still do.
And yes, I am a Vince Lombardi fan. I think he epitomized what you would think a good coach would be like. Personality wise, the opposite of Dungy.
"Can you imagine being coached by a man named Lovie?"
Can you imagine being intimidated by a player named Rosie Greer?
(Member of the LA Rams Fearsome Foursome.)
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 14, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
That’s right. And Rosie did needlepoint or cross stitch or something. And witnessed Bobby Kennedy’s assassination:
Wiki:
Grier grabbed the gun held by the assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, and jammed his finger behind the trigger, fracturing Sirhan’s arm. Grier later said, “I grabbed the man’s legs and dragged him onto a table. There was a guy angrily twisting the killer’s legs and other angry faces coming towards him, as though they were going to tear him to pieces. I fought them off. I would not allow more violence.”
"...while the Saints would consistently drop down and take a guys legs out from under him (Improper...)"
and I swear, Stu, every time I look at your avatar, the first thing that crosses my mind is
what orange-jumpsuited prisoner is that? Lex Luthor? And then I remember…that’s no prisoner, at all, that’s good ole Billy Miller with the Lombardi (I think).
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
Yes, my close personal friend Billy #83 HA
Swiped the photo from his twitter thing.
"...while the Saints would consistently drop down and take a guys legs out from under him (Improper...)"
Skip Wood / USA Today
Picked the Saints as Super Bowl Champions during the preseason!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-09-08-preseason-picks_N.htm
by Pathomaniac on Feb 12, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Thats pretty good
He also picked Drew to be superbowl mvp
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 12, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
He needs to get an award from the Who Dat Nation.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
I remember seeing that at the beginning of the season and thinking...
wow, who is this guy? One person out of the entire MSM was picking the Saints to win the Super Bowl during the pre-season. Removing anyone who was somehow connected to the team (N.O. native, former Saint, etc.), he may have been the only one. But then, he may be from N.O. for all I know.
Don Banks
from SI had us in the NFC Championship game. He picked us to with the last two but Sean Payton asked him not to pick us this time! LOL
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/02/12/snaps/index.html
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson
picked us to *win* the last two
my bad.
"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." --Mike Tyson
you were right...
it does make you sound like a spoil sport. Honestly, who the hell cares what the experts at ESPN think? ESPN has become a serious joke over the last few years.
You're right
Anyone who thought the Colts were going to win is a serious joke. Whatever that is.
"We’re running Ambush."
Here is a serious joke
This morning, the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up; fireman, policeman, salesman, etc.
The teacher noticed that little Ricky was being very quiet and so she asked him about his father. “My father’s an exotic dancer in a gay bar and takes all his clothes off in front of other men. Sometimes if the offer’s really good he’ll go out tothe alley with some guy and do it with him for money” The teacher obviously shaken by this statment hurriedly set the other children to work on some coloring. and took little Ricky aside to ask him, “Is that really true about your father?” “No”, said Ricky. "He plays for the Indianapolis Colts, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids cause the Saints really kicked their ass!
WHO DAT! WE DAT ! THAT’S WHO DAT !
I like it!! I love it!! I want some mo of it!! Supa Bowl Rings, Dat Is!!
by Big Bru on Feb 12, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
when i saw these predictions before the super bowl
i knew we would win. herm edwards and matt millen—who are vying for “worst football analyst ever”—both picked the colts.
i’ve seen very few of these sportswriters own up to their incorrect predictions, especially some of the more certain ones (cough, cough, tony dungy).
i was younger...
but before millen went on to ruin the lions i thought he was a pretty good tv guy. but now when i see him i just want to slug him for my friend brian, who is a lions fan.
Living here in the Northeast, one of the advantages I see that the Saints have
is that noboby knows very much about them usually. I mean even right now not many people know how good Courney Roby has played or that Heath Evans was an important part of our offense and went on IR or that Dave Thomas has come in an played 2 positions and done well. It’s an advantage that we can continue to enjoy. I really think even most other teams outside of the NFC South are less informed about the Saints than any other NFL team.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Tony Dungy should get some kind of award
His comments might have just put us over the top. I think we were going to win anyway, but he sure helped the motivation thing along a bit.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
I'm still mad at Tony for saying that Dallas had 'no chance' to beat us
and the Cowboys used that to get riled up. So of course when Dungy said ‘it wasn’t going to be close’ I knew the Saints were going to win. It just proves that these guys know NOTHING. First it was the Eagles that were the team to beat, then Dallas, then the Vikings, then the Colts. It’s not just the ‘experts’. Most football fans can’t get the idea of the Aints out of their mind and kept dissing the Saints all season long. Didn’t think they’d beat the Eagles or Giants and never gave them a chance against the Pats, said the Saints would get blown out. Well guess what? Except for one game where we were missing multiple starters (and almost tied it late in the 4th qtr) we beat everybody. I guarantee next year, they’ll be saying that the Saints can’t repeat or wont make the playoffs because they can’t understand how a team with a non-traditional defense can win.
I'll credit Mike and Mike for
taking their lumps on Monday morning with humility and style. The rest of those “experts” can go pound sand. I hope drinking all that Manning-flavored blue Kool-Aid for two weeks straight gave them a massive hangover.
this is ridiculous though
the main thing that pissed me off was: “manning is just too good/smart/accurate”
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 12, 2010 9:19 AM CST reply actions
It's like those guys never even looked at a stat sheet that had the name Drew Brees on it.
I mean, c’mon! How can you talk about Manning’s accuracy while not even acknowledging that the he’ll be playing against the most accurate QB ever?
If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002
Hilarious
Saintsational Dave, scatting and be-bopping all over the page, nailed every one. BOOM REC’D IT!!
All her brothers were fit for stealing watermelons out of my truck patch.
love the post!
man… we need to do a post superbowl roast. sit everyone who picked the colts on stage and roast em!
Awesome post!
Notice how most of the idiots who picked the Colts are now not admitting how wrong they were. It’s as if they think we’ll have forgotten by the time next season starts and will once again give a s*** about their opinion. Not me. I still don’t understand why the MSM spends so much time making game predictions when they are all so wrong most of the time.
Where’s Skip Bayless’s asinine pregame predictions for the Saints? That’s right, they aren’t here because everyone already knows how much of a joke he is. He’s been dissing the Saints all year.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Feb 12, 2010 9:44 AM CST reply actions
How about...
…we send every single one of the Manning-love-slave common-taters one of these:
…along with a note telling them that there’s something brown on their nose from having it stuck up Peyton’s backside too far, they should use this to wipe it off.
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
I think all Saints fans...
need to congratulate Jeremy Green from Scouts INc like we congratulated other Saints fans… He picked the Saints and the Colts in the Superbowl on his show right before preseason this year, and he picked the Saints to win the game. He’s been behind the Saints all year and even when they lost the last threee, he was still there.
Colts fans are officially the worst sore losers and their home is Stampede Blue. Don't laugh Vikings fans... you're a close second!
This is one of my favorite posts of all time.
By the way, all 4 yahoo sportswriters picked the Colts, but I can’t find it because the links to all those pre-game prognostications have been removed.
HMMMM.
Finished Strong.
My
First year on here,hell my first year on a computer and I sounded like I knew something. Thanks to all it was a wonderful begining for me, my friends and family, you people really knew your stuff. thanks for the insight
OldFartFan
great read
that was awesome. i love when people say “the games they tried to win.”
“ok guys…peytons on the bench, now get out there and throw this game so he looks that much better!!”
“Bethae…what the hell are you doing…dont wrap up…are you crazy man”
“c’mon Saturday…dont block that guy…its the backup qb for cryin out loud”
"if you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on earth" Bob Marley
Dave, you left out the ultimate
That pigskin-pickin prognosticator, Peter King, in his Monday Morning Quarterback of May 10, 2009, had this to say about the Saints and where they rank:
24. New Orleans
No team with Drew Brees will ever be awful, particularly in a division without an almighty power. The Saints will win two or three 40-31-type of games. But unless Gregg Williams can find a better-than-average pass-rush by maneuvering some average chess pieces — and unless Jonathan Vilma plays like Superman, and Jabari Greer and Malcolm Jenkins cover like Deion — this defense is not going to be good enough to win eight games.
Peter, we’re starting a class-action lawsuit against you for journalistic malpractice. You can call most of the guys above as character witnesses…
"We’re running Ambush."
by MtnExile on Feb 12, 2010 10:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I totally lost respect for King when he wrote that
Payton has reportedly thrown it back into King’s face at every opportunity he’s received this year. Even Loomis has given King grief for his history of doubting the Saints:
I remember going to training camp that summer in Millsaps College and thinking … well, I’ll let Loomis pick up the story.
“You went to our camp in ‘06,’’ he told me at the Saints’ victory celebration at the Intercontinental Hotel around 1 Monday morning, "and you said, ‘This is the worst team in the league.’ Didn’t you?’’
“I think I did,’’ I said.
Loomis beamed, because he knew what he and Payton did. They rebuilt a team in a city that was braced to lose it, somehow convincing enough good players and coaches that the team was worth building in such a fluid environment. There’s a moral in there for so many teams in so many other cities. Hire smart people. Trust them to make bold decisions. Back them, even when the tide of public opinion rushes against you.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Feb 12, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The great stalwart of sports prognostication: history will always repeat itself. Just pick two left-field, dark horse teams, and the rest will be a carbon copy of the previous year.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
Peter King
Does Peter King EVER get it right?? If you or I were wrong that often in our jobs, we’d be fired (unless you work for the gov’t that is).
Peter King is to Sports Journalism what Andy Rooney is to "60 Minutes"
He is a washed up old fart that SI keeps around out of fear of an age discrimination law suit. His articles quit having any relevance years ago.
Nobody cares what kind of coffee he had last week or how bad he thinks the airline industry has become but yet he talks about that crap as much as he does about football. It’s similar to when Andy Rooney is given 5 minutes to show the TV audience all the junk he’s collected in his desk over the years right after a 15 minute spot on the earthquake in Haiti. The difference is that at least Andy doesn’t claim to be a news journalist anymore and isn’t allowed a vote for the Football Hall of Fame.
The only reason I read him is so I’ll have a point of reference when I’m reading the satires of his columns on Kissing Suzy Kolber. For any King haters, these are a MUST READ….hilarious.
no. 24
I think that was a fair assessment of the Saints coming into this season. There was nothing to suggests that anything was going to be a whole helluva lot different from the previous season. Sure we got rid of Gibbs and brought in GW, but nobody had seen the saints play and i think it would have been a stretch to say (in May anyways) the team would have won more than 9 games.
I concur i dont like some of the language of it and the artistic liberty he took, but hell look at some of the didactic harangues posted in here from time to time!!!
well we were 8-8 the year before
i think its a stretch to say that bringing in GW, Greer and Sharper was going to make us worse on defense. so saying that the saints would be in the bottom 3rd of the league is a weak prediction
I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy
by knucklesmalone on Feb 13, 2010 3:53 AM CST up reply actions
totally disagree
he basically said that unless michael jenkins and greer played like deion sanders we’d have NO SHOT of breaking .500. That’s completely bone-headed. With all of the crap that went down last year (Porter and about 20 others going out for the year) and having the scarecrow at DC we were still .500. We had obviously upgraded our DC and added Greer, so saying we’d be worse was just plain stupid.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Yeah, King was a buffoon there. The Saints won 8 games with a lousy
defense in 2008! And then he said they wouldn’t win because of Jeremy Shockey getting ‘dehydrated’. He was all over the place. But he DID write a column when the Saints were 8-0 and actually said he needed to eat crow. I think these guys not only read too much of their own skewed analysis, they actually believe their own BS!!!
So if Manning is the gold standard
What does that make Drew?
Platinum baby!
Record completion percentage says it all.
Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.
by alcoholic_insight on Feb 12, 2010 12:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Previous Record Completion percentage holder
was from the strike shortened season, and only played in NINE games. Ken Anderson, wasn’t it?
by BRSaintsFan on Feb 12, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
From Peter King's Monday SI.com column
Quote of the Week II
“Not bad for number 24.’’
— Sean Payton to me, before taking the podium to do his postgame press conference.
In the offseason, I ranked the 32 teams from top to bottom, and I ranked the Saints 24th on my list. To say I’ve been reminded of that several times in the past few months would be an understatement. I feel quite sure when Payton is 78 and wasting away in Margaritaville, and we run into each other, he’s going to say, "Here’s the genius who said we’d stink the year we won the Super Bowl.’’
Well, at least he owned up to it. Sorta.
Regarding the Payton-Gruden man crush??
Can anyone confirm this?
A friend of mine told me that Jon Gruden was in the locker room and the team elected to award him the game ball after the win over the Cardinals. Reason being because he had “been with us and for us all season” or words to that effect. My buddy said he saw it on TV but I’ve not seen or heard anything else about it.
Gruden said before the season (as did I and I almost put a G on us in vegas) that...
We’d win the Superbowl!
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
gruden was at training camp for a few days
came out saying we were the best team
I see what you got...Lets rock - Al Bundy
by knucklesmalone on Feb 13, 2010 3:55 AM CST up reply actions
ANYONE HEARD FROM COLD PIZZA?
I truly miss his acerbic bantering and dry sense of humor….he’s been such a great read all season and now he is mysteriously silent. Anyone?….Is he alive? What? Where?
Oh, and BTW-Great Post!
"How's your Mama and them?"
by whodatblackandgold on Feb 12, 2010 12:55 PM CST reply actions
yeah
I was thinking that. wanted to hear what he had to say about the game since he was there.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 12, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
me too
Hey, hell already froze over.
All her brothers were fit for stealing watermelons out of my truck patch.
me too, that's how I found this comment
i was looking for something from him…weird I know. He’ll prob show up in the Reggie post…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Maybe he is Reggie???
"How's your Mama and them?"
by whodatblackandgold on Feb 12, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
No, he looks like Harry Nilsson’s little brother. And I say that with respect.
You're breakin' my heart
You're tearin' it apart
So f*** you
he's still in mourning
he did say that the worst thing that could happen was Payton winning the superbowl
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Loved it!
Mike Tirico
Pick: Colts, 34-26
A day for the offenses and the masters of the quarterback craft. I feel a strong emotional pull toward the Saints but can’t go against the best on the biggest stage. Peyton is the gold standard.
I don’t understand how Peyton is the gold standard. Sure, got them MVP and is a very winning QB but what about the playoffs? He’s been in them almost every year hes played and has 1 SB title and this is only his 2nd time getting back. If you want to talk playoff gold standard QBs it’s Brady(not that I like him or don’t like him, he just simply has been the best QB in the playoffs that’s still in the NFL). Peyton is 9-9 in the playoffs. Great job there Peyton!10 years making the playoffs(99-2009 straight through except 01) and it’s only his 2nd SB appearance! How bout his games against the Patriots in 04 and 05! 4 interceptions in 1 and 0 TDs in the next. He has 27 TDs to 18 INTs. That’s alright. about a 1.50 TD to INT ratio I believe. Not great but good. Throw in a 62.4 completion % and 3 rushing TDs. Then theres a 87.5 QB rating in the playoffs. Seriously, where do these guys get their answers? He’s hardly the playoff gold standard. Nothing against Manning, he’s just still a choke artist in the playoffs. 1 SB in 10 attempts isn’t that good, sorry.
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
Peyton Manning
…is the gold-plated standard. He’s shiny in the regular season, but in the playoffs he’s tin.
"We’re running Ambush."
Love this.
What a bunch of know-nothings. Great job in calling them all out.
Today, I had a guy tell me: “I was pulling for the Saints to win, but I would have never put any money on them. I had no idea their defense was that good.” I said to him: “Everyone has been underestimating our defense all season long. I knew how good they were, and I walked away with $372.” He was stunned. It felt good.
"It's a fairytale, man. I don't wanna wake up."--Anthony Hargrove on winning the NFC Championship
Why I hate ESPN and NFL analysts in general:
You can predict the amount TD’s thrown, or the amount of rushing yards, or breakdown defensive stats and turnover ratios. But you can not, and will never be able to measure what lies beneath those pads and helmets. You will never be able to place numerical values on heart and determination and desire. These unseen qualities, which you can not track with stats, will always reveal that predicting the final outcome of a game is nothing more than a guessing game and that is why the analysts will always fail.
by jack_casse on Feb 12, 2010 3:15 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Boom!!!!!
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 12, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Give 'em a Break
These guys are just high paid idiots who look in the mirror too many times a day. Kind of like a weather man, one of those people who can be wrong at least half the time and still keep a job.
Unlike real people, these are elitist types, if they werent on TV they would be politicians. And we all just love and hang on every word any of those pretentious jerks has to say, so why do we put so much faith in some jerking-off sports announcer on TV. Even most of the ex-jocks are idiots, or believe themselves to be so far above the rest of the people who watch them, that they just repeat some party line given to them by their bosses. Or, they are like Craig James and think they sit on the right hand of God and can actually manipulate society.
I try not to let them get my blood boiling from their disrespect, because I dont think they are smart enough to actually disrespect us, they are just too stupid to understand that we are the best team int the NFL right now, even after we showed it to them. Is that raw egg juice dripping from their face or it is something else?
I like it!! I love it!! I want some mo of it!! Supa Bowl Rings, Dat Is!!
Still...
…there are weather men, and then there’s Nash Roberts. So it’s possible for there to be a good media football analyst, and we keep looking for him to come along. Maybe we should just let Nash do it.
"We’re running Ambush."
herm edwards is an idiot....
as soon as he made his pick THE COLTS, I knew beyond a shadow of a dought THE SAINTS HAD THIS GAME IN THE BAG, without any brains at all wheather it be coaching or predicting this guy Herm Edwards is a cpmplete idiot, and I bet over the next five years some other stupid owners gives this idiot another coaching job, I would not hire this guy to pump my septic tank, he would end up doing it bass ackwards.
that idiot also said the raiders would win the west preseason
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 12, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
the biggest problem
with the main stream sports media is that they appear to do no research and only make analysis and predictions based on what happend the last time a team played. They make no effort to look at the season or team as a whole – for example:
- Colts rolled jets + Saints eeked by vikings=colts roll Saints
- Saints have 25th ranked defense, so they can’t stop Manning (obviously forgetting that we played without our starting corners for the better part of the season).
- Saints struggled to close the season, zona scored lots against GB, therefore Zona will score hundreds against saints
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
25th ranked is just wrong though
and so many sportscasters couldnt look past it
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 12, 2010 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Well it was our yardage ranking. But what they forget was that despite playing some teams that were at least mostly decent (Eagles, Giants, etc) we were still a top 10 D in yardage before our corners went down.
They forgot that. We didn’t.
Also, nobody seemed to notice that Colts D had played precious few top offenses this year
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
I think you guys are over reacting.
I didnt see any body pick against the Saints as much as they picked Manning. I picked Brees as the MVP of the league in August and put him of Manning and Brady as the best QB this year. I could still understand the love affair with Manning.
Sit back at the top of the mountain and enjoy the View. It never lasts long enough. The team and the fans have done the City/state/area proud. 99% of the time I have heard nothing but good things about the fans and how cool everyone was at Miami. You put on the greatest SB parade ever in funky weather at night. You have conducted yourself with class and showed everyone how great the fandom is here.
Dont get yourself worked up over BSPN B.S. You need to hold on to all of those clippings and feelings and bring them up all during training camp to get the team pissed off and in a fighting mood for nexts years run. Save your rally material for later and soak in the feeling of being the biggest ass kickers in the NFL.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Feb 12, 2010 6:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It never lasts long enough?
It lasts forever, man. Super Bowl XLIV is a historical fact. If I live to be 100 I’ll look back on this and smile. It’s mine now…and the rest of world can’t have it. I’m keeping it.
"We’re running Ambush."
Im a Cowboys fan, we have 5 SBs and been to 8. Their great memories but they mean nothing once the new season starts.
All that matters is the thirst and hope for the next one. Drew will be old and broadcasting way sooner than you will ever be ready for. Trust me every game I wish I could see Emmit in his prime. That was over 10 years ago. It hurts man it hurts.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Thanks, I been living in the NO area since the early 80s. Before the internet and Espn
all you got was the local news. So back in the days of the Dome patrol the Saints became my number 2 team. So I pull for them except when it hurts the Cowboys. This is really the 1st time they have both been very good so I havent ever had an issue before.
KICK ASS every day!!!
yeah, he has to be cool admitting that in public like that
that’s like saying, “I’m gay”…just messing with ya. And i don’t mean to offend anyone who might be offended by my usage of the word gay…I’m sorry.
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
WHO DIS
I don’t think one of these ‘experts’ watched a game all year. I got so tired of people making comments on the Saints without one bit of fact attached. The only other entity that knew the Saints would win was Cold Hard Football Facts. ESPN is a Peyton Manning/ Brett Favre/Tony Romo promotion machine.
Anyway, we won, they suck. It’s all good!
Yeah, but all Romo had to do was win one
game against the Saints and he was the golden boy. Meanwhile if Drew didn’t put up 40 pts a game they were wondering what was wrong with him.
Only because you guys were undefeated and kicking ass. You get props for that.
KICK ASS every day!!!
I don't think it's a Manning/Favre/Romo machine as much as it's...
Just like any media…it goes after whats hot. They love Reggie Bush, they love Drew Brees it’s just that Brady, Favre and Manning or whoever have done somethings here and there to get them to a point of being in the media all the time. Brees will be next. When we win it again people will start to say that they love us too…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
And by the third time...
…even the North Koreans will be Saints fans. After that, I guess we convert the Martians.
"We’re running Ambush."
i disagree...
Those folks that picked against the saints seriously did not believe we could win and now that we have they consider it a fluke! We are the story now becasue the music has stopped and we are the only team standing. Trust me the saints will be also rans by the time the preseason starts. Why? becasue it’ll be time to report on the pro sports favortie destinations: NY, BOSTON, LA , some team in Texas, some team in Florida.
I blame the usual Eastern Seaboard/NFC East media bias, myself.
Considering that most of the sports media establishment is based in New York City and Boston, and tends to sway towards the typical establishment teams (Jets, Giants, Cowboys, Pats, Steelers, Vikings due to Farve, Colts), I wasn’t even surprised that the Saints were seriously underestimated, even with having the second best record in the league.
Most of the media hacks I read or saw on TV were openly wishing for a Cowboys-Colts or Vikings-Colts (or, should I say, a Romo vs. Manning or Farve vs Manning) Super Bowl, and those darn Saints were just supposed to be a “finesse team” speed bump to that end. (So were the Jets…but because of the history of “Broadway Joe” and that New York media bias and their old-school “ground-n-pound” philosophy, they would have been a bit more acceptable to them than the Saints would be.)
That the Saints not only won outright, but did so in front of the largest viewing audience in TV history — outdoing even the season finale of M*A*S*H, for crying out loud — is probably going to stick in their craw for quite a while, even if they have to give Drew Brees his begrugingly respect. I totally expect the “experts” to pick the Saints to finish last in the NFC South next season (because Carolina, Tampa Bay, and Atlanta are allegedly more powerful and will just run over them due to sophomore jinxes), and Dallas will become the new darlings due to them hosting SB XLV (and because of Tony Romo).
Oh, well…it’ll just make the repeat next year all that sweeter.
Anthony
I don't think anyone considers us a fluke at all
Just like I don’t even think the media had a colts bias. Again, I was seeing Saints stories all the time—positive ones. I think we have an inferiority complex and feel this way but next year we’ll win again and then we’ll start to become hated, like the Pats or something…
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
I’ve heard the internet called (semi-sarcastically… I hope) the “in-tar-web” before. Usually in a heavy “hick” accent with the syllable breaks heavily emphasized…
yessir
isn’t that what this here thing is called?
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 12, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
interweb
term for the internet used by Tracy Morgan’s character (Tracy Jordan) on 30Rock. BTW, this character also said “Live every week like it’s Shark Week!” and “Meat is the new bread!” This show is hilariously funny – you should check it out.
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
ridiculously funny
I have a secret crush on Fey. Morgan’s character as Amos N Andy as it can be is hilarious!
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Fey? Really?
Her character is too pathetic to make her attractive.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 14, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Ahhh, I don't think it's her "character" that TAYDIGGA is TAYDIGGIN'!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 15, 2010 1:57 AM CST up reply actions
yeah I just think
she’s super cute in like that librarian way…I also think Sarah Palin is attactive too, I’m ashamed to admit that but it’s true!
Don't worry I got your back cuz...
Yeah, Sarah's cute in like that I've never been to a library way. LOL!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 15, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Other than politics, the biggest difference between Tina Fey and Sarah Palin is Palin isn’t smart enough to be a librarian.
by Drew-Dat on Feb 18, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
no reason the crush should be secret - Tina's totally smokin hot and funny and smart
and that Liz Lemon character is hot and hilarious…
Tay – did you see the one when she let that guy who wears those hats live with her and he was trying to quit smoking while she was going to eat healthy? That night-cam had some freaky footage…
I love how she leaves it all out on the soundstage…for EVERY DANG episode. she will do anything for a bit. You just GOT to admire that.
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
THANK YOU THANK YOU
THANK YOU THANK YOU for calling out these useless analysts who must all be related to Payton Manning in some way. Even in the post superbowl discussions most of them are saying that the Colts LOST it rather than the Saints winning it. How hard is it to eat humble pie and say you were beaten by THE BETTER TEAM!!!!!!! Even a CNNSI article i read recently still refers to Manning and Brady as the best QBs in the NFL. WHAT THE HELL DOES DREW BREES NEED TO DO TO GET SOME RECOGNITION AROUND HERE. I can’t believe these guys get money to spew the garbage they write about.
And how about Jermond Bushrod? I thought he was the weakest link and Dwight Freeney was going to eat him for lunch??? Fools….
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