Analyzing the Saints 2010 Free Agents: Defensive Backs
The first phase of the NFL off-season, free agency, will be upon us in just a few short weeks on March 5th. With nearly thirty free agents on the roster this off-season, including some key players, the free agency period will be a busy one for the Saints.
Canal Street Chronicles begins the long, dull days of off-season coverage today with a look at all of the Saints free agents.
Throughout this series of posts, it's important to keep in mind the very real possibility that a new CBA will not be reached this off-season and that the 2010 season will uncapped. This means that any 4th or 5th year players, who would normally be unrestricted, then become restricted. This is represented by an asterisk (*).
Also keep in mind that because of the top 8 provision, the Saints will not be allowed to sign any free agents unless they let the dollar equivalent of free agents go. That means they've got more of an incentive to let free agents walk.
We begin our series with a look at the secondary.
Leigh Torrence
Cornerback
Unrestricted Free Agent*
Analysis: Torrence would become a restricted free agent in the event of an uncapped season but I doubt any offer will be made. The Stanford grad has made his living as a defense/special teams role player, bouncing around the league between four teams in five years. Now he's coming back from a season-ending shoulder injury. I doubt he's very high on the priority list for the Saints. Regardless of his free agency status, Leigh could find himself on yet another team next year.
Opinion: Let him go.
Roman Harper
Safety
Unrestricted Free Agent*
Analysis: This is one of those situations where the possibility of an uncapped season in 2010 might actually help the Saints. If 2010 is uncapped than Harper becomes a restricted free agent instead, thus allowing the Saints a better chance of keeping him or getting some value if they let him go. I would definitely expect the team to tender an offer in that situation.
Opinion: Keep him.
Darren Sharper
Safety
Unrestricted Free Agent
Analysis: If there is one thing we all learned this season it's that Darren Sharper still has plenty of football left in the tank. Sharper and his bevy of interceptions was the key to the Saints defensive turnaround this year. They need to make signing Sharper one of their top priorities this off-season. Hopefully the euphoria of winning a Super Bowl combined with Gregg Williams' scheme and the fact that the Saints believed in him last off-season will be enough to keep Sharper around next year.
Opinion: Keep him!
Pierson Prioleau
Safety
Unrestricted Free Agent
Analysis: If Gregg Williams has anything to say about it, Prioleau will be a New Orleans Saint in 2010. Pierson has followed Williams his entire career - Buffalo, Washington, Jacksonville and New Orleans - so he must see something. I don't think many teams will be going crazy for the ten year veteran safety. If the Saints can keep him for cheap, we might continue to see Prioleau's good special teams play next season.
Opinion: Always liked Prioleau. Find a way to keep him.
Usama Young
Safety
Restricted Free Agent
Analysis: This is a tough one. I'm not sure the Saints would tender Young an offer. If Usama doesn't catch on somewhere else, the Saints might be able to get him back cheap. Unfortunately, it may come down to a numbers game and Young could be the loser.
Opinion: Sadly, might not be back.
Chris Reis
Safety
Restricted Free Agent
Analysis: Like Usama Young's situation, this one is a tough call. Reis is on the borderline; I'm not so sure the Saints would tender him an offer. His special teams play and performance during the Super Bowl could possibly be his saving grace, however.
Opinion: Keep him.
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I see nothing wrong
…with signing every one of these guys. Then they fight it out in training camp, and may the best man win. When you cut a player, you cut his salary…so the payroll won’t be significantly higher than it would have been anyway. Frankly, I think all the doom-and-gloom scenarios that have the Saints crashing and burning are way out of line.
"My prediction for next year's SB: Saints vs. 2nd Place."
by MtnExile on Feb 15, 2010 6:39 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
mmm hhmm
I totally agree. All the quotes I have seen from players seem to indicate they are bent on repeating.
Da Bone
by tboneforever1 on Feb 15, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Might not tender Young? Really? I’m pretty sure they will at least tender him at the minimum level. He’s worth hanging onto for another few years if we can get him back.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
yeah I'm not sure where the might not tender is coming from
he played well in replacement of Sharper at FS, and he’s a great gunner. My opinion is Young is going nowhere.
Young can’t cover anybody. I don’t know what he contributes out there?
by xen-cuts on Feb 15, 2010 7:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
perfect, cutting remark by xen-cuts boom
Not that I totally agree with it. But the thought did flash across my mind.
I rec’d Dave’s post, agree 100%.
"...while the Saints would consistently drop down and take a guys legs out from under him (Improper...)"
BTW
I do have a soft spot in the old heart for Young. He’s a Saint, he’s been here for a while, and he’s been cool about changing positions. But he’s just not great at any of the positions. And he always seems to be the guy who needed someone else to help him out. So either Young needs to go or we really, really need to look at the other players who never seem to be in the right position when Young is in the game. Amazing how that works.
I guess you've already forgotten
About the great pick Usama made when he filled in for Sharper.
The kid has talent, and he’s still developing. I say give him another year.
"There are those that make it happen, those that watch it happen, and those that stand around and wonder what the hell happened." -- Drew Brees
He was supposed to be playing safety
Usama had been practicing at safety all year long and they throw him back at corner duirng the playoffs. Tough situation for him, but it is to his credit that when Greer was injured that they put him in there instead of Jenkins, or Gay. The guy is a keeper and Darren Sharper’s eventual replacement IMO.
by tboneforever1 on Feb 15, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not even sure it was Young's fault
Usually, the safety on that side (Harper) is responsible for giving help deep. There was no help. Young could have done a better job, but it looked more like a total breakdown to me.
And since when do we make decisions based on a single play? Other than that, Young has played well on special teams and held his own in the secondary (mostly).
"My prediction for next year's SB: Saints vs. 2nd Place."
Bad coverage by Young
but you’re right, Harper’s help over the top was atrocious on that play
by Andrew Juge on Feb 15, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Usama being burned...
wasn’t a surprise to anybody. Heck, didn’t we do the same thing all year long against second stringers lining up against us? If you watch “FX sound” on NFL.com, you can even hear Payton calling it before the play. The whole world noticed the switch; how could Manning miss it? So….
I like “that Young kid” as much as I like Jenkins. In both cases, it seems that Saints’ head office picked up very athletic players but didn’t have a real plan for them. CB or safety? Even if Jenkins made a case for himself when he came into the game, it still feels like the jury is out on them.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on my scouting staff???
Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....
Time for Sharper to go...
Yes, he had an incredible first half of the season, but his production noticeably tailed off as the amount of games played took their toll (only 2 ints in the last 12 games). Then you factor in the outright liability he is against the run and the reality is we need to get younger and faster at that position.
Sharper production declined when...
.. he had to do mop up duties with Greer and Porter injured.
They will keep him one more year if only for his mentor role to the youngsters
Bring the wood
Sharper is shakey but he’s better than anyone else we can get.
by xen-cuts on Feb 15, 2010 8:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
With two healthy top tier corners (Greer/Porter) Sharper is better than almost anyone else… not just “anyone else we can get”. (notice I did say “almost”)
It goes way beyond stats. Like our great coach (GW) and great defensive captain (JV), DS lifts the entire attitude, awareness, and motivation of the defense.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
Yeah......... NO!
He’s not a cover guy… that’s why we NEED depth at CB.
If you make him play coverage, his production will go down… agreed.
But, if Greer and Porter and 2 other CB’s didn’t get hurt, I think he would have had an unbelievable season… of course, that didn’t happen.
That’s why you CANNOT just look at a stat sheet to determine effectiveness. This is a team sport. We/They have to take into account everything that was happening on the team when his stats went down.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
They all have value on the field, except for Prioleau and Torrence. I like Prioleau, but I think he just comes with the GW package as an on-field coach. He doesn’t make a lot of impressive plays when he’s on the field. Torrence is a textbook journeyman, and I don’t see why it should end here. If one more had to go, I think it would be a coin-flip between Reis and Young. One has more value on defense(but is not a solid starting anything), the other is a special teams whiz(next year’s model of Steve Gleason). I’d rather keep the special teams guy, but they both have upside. I still think Jenkins’ future is at FS, which would make Young more expendable, but he did come out of nowhere with some solid pass defense in the SB, so who knows what the Saints’ plans for his future are. They should let Sharper finish his career here, though. When he’s good, he’s awesome. But as soon as injuries to defensive starters began to pile up, I’d want him benched in favor of a more athletic option. And I think they have to retain Harper, unless they plan on drafting another hard-hitting safety early.
"The Colts were punching at it and grabbing for it, trying to get it out. But I didn't care if they broke all my fingers. There was absolutely no way in the world I was going to let go of that ball. That was our ball.''-Chris Reis
My only Usama memories are of him doing well on STs, and then getting beat a few times when he plugged in at CB this season
Does anyone have any knowledge of how he did at Safety this year? I remember we talked about his switch to S all through training camp, and then as the season went along, I never seemed to get a feel for how he was doing at the new position…I know with Harper and Sharper starting, his opportunities would have been limited to injury plays and nickel/dime situations, so maybe he didn’t actually play all that much. As for keeping him or not, it would depend on all the things Dave said, as well as what kind of leadership/team intangibles he provides. I could see him staying or going…
As for Torrence, I had high hopes for him in 08 and 2009, but he never really showed us anything, and then he got hurt.
Reis is a solid special-teamer and decent back-up, I guess? It’d be cheaper to keep him than Usama, but I’m really not sure which of them would be more valued by Wil-Mis-Pay (that’s it – the 1st 2010 offseason use of one of our nicknames for the 3-headed coach/mgt. team!)…
Great first offseason analysis breakdown, DAVE! It was nice to savor the Super Bowl, but let’s get busy movin’ on to figuring out how best to defend that title for all we’re worth! If not us, who?
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
Against St Louis
…Darren Sharper sat out, and Usama Young played at safety. He had 4 tackles, a pass defensed, and an interception. That’s from his player page on NFL.com…I don’t know how much he was targeted, or how many receptions or yards or scores they made against him. Apparently he didn’t play in the second half…maybe Prioleau took his place?
"My prediction for next year's SB: Saints vs. 2nd Place."
thanks, M-E
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 15, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Missing a critical factor.....$
Yes we want Sharper back. Yes we want Harper back. Bring em all back and see how they do in camp. But we have to sign them first and in doing so we have to put a dollar value on them. If Sharper wants a 2 year deal for 5 Mil, we sign him without hesitation. f he’s looking for a 5 year 30mil deal we’d have to pass. I doubt Reis will be tendered an offer. He played this year for about 450K and the min. tender would be over a Mil. But that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t bring him back. I think he’ll be released but re-signed after he sets his value in the market.
I think the question shouldn’t be tender or cut, but what are they worth?
Torrence – 500K/yr 2yr
Harper – 2 M/yr 4yr
Sharper – 4M/yr 2yr
Young- 1M/yr 4Yr
Prioleau – 500/yr 2yr
Reis – 750/yr 3yr
I’d offer them contracts that paid that for the first year, and went up for the length specified.
I could see getting..
rid of Leigh Torrence becuase we have two quailty corners (Greg Fassitt on the PS and Danny Gorrer on IR) that sat out this year. They both looked pretty good with the limited time they got in preseaon.
I think Travis Mackel suggested trading Usama Young for some helpp at the DT rotation, and as much as I like Young as a ST gunner and back up FS (not at all as a back up CB) , I think our needs in the front 7 trump keeping Young if we can get some value you for him.
Harper should be locked up LONG TERM… no ifs ands or buts about it. He is SOLID in run defense and with good FS help in the back, will not be exposed in coverage.
I think we should lock up Reis as well… he’s seems to be becoming our ST ace, and those players can change games, even in their limited roles.
Please pay Sharper a fair market deal for 2 yrs!!! Hes even worth possibly over paying in this UNCAPPED year. I think somewhere in the ballpark of 3 – 3.5 mill a year is good, but if we franchise him and he gets 6 this year, I wouldn’t be totally against that.
I have a feeling Prioleau isn’t going anywhere for two reasons… no one is going to show interest in him and he his GW’s boy.
Colts fans are officially the worst sore losers and their home is Stampede Blue. Don't laugh Vikings fans... you're a close second!
I honestly hope they part ways with Roman Harper, while they can still get something for him. He’s done a p*** poor job in TE coverage all season and never seems to wrap up in the open field. Four seasons in and the guy is still playing defense like a pinball flipper. Hard hitter? Absolutely. So is anyone that constantly leads with their shoulder and/or back. The occasional highlight reel stick doesn’t justify $2M/year, imo. Tender him, trade him to the highest bidder, hand Chip Vaughn the keys to the SS spot and use that money to upgrade another area. If they handle it any other way, you’re looking at yet another season of status quo production, followed by zero compensation for a first day draft pick, when he reaches his 5th year. If this seemingly lateral-at-worst move helps out elsewhere monetarily, it would be worth it to bite the bullet now. Especially if you still have a team or two that covet him, like the Giants reportedly did at the time of the Shockey trade. Too bad he wasn’t included in that deal, as I honestly view him as the weakest link in our starting secondary.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I think this is good stuff
Could definitely see this happening.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 15, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
If CP would call in to the radio show, I’d stop watching TV and tune in to listen. Ralph would need to sharpen his moderator (i.e. interrupting) skills though, naturally.
"...while the Saints would consistently drop down and take a guys legs out from under him (Improper...)"
Or figure out the mute button like on “Around The Horn”. ;)
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
right on CP
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 15, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Harper as the weakest link:
Agreed.
"There are those that make it happen, those that watch it happen, and those that stand around and wonder what the hell happened." -- Drew Brees
yeah, after reading that I recall that SB winning teams often lose many role players who get offered bigger $$ by other teams
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 15, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Will Chris Reis
Be the next Steve Gleason?If he’s productive…..Keep him.If he’s just a fan favorite I say not.
I'll be your huckleberry- Doc Holliday to Ringo
Reis IS productive
Chris’s parents watch the game at the same place that I do, so I’m sure I’ve paid more atention to him than normal. Heck, I don’t think I’ve ever paid attention to special teams player who wasn’t the return guy before. But he is very aggressive out there. He attacks the ball on coverage, and definitly risks his body to make the play. He is a perfect special teamer. Will that ever make him a star? No, but he has value to us. We are a better team for having him on the roster.
by saintsdevotee on Feb 16, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions

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