Saints Free Agency Update: Bye-Bye Bell?
by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 6:00 AM CST
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PrintThe action is starting to heat up in this, the Saints first ever post-Super Bowl off-season. Yesterday, the team went on a tenderizing spree, making offers to eleven restricted free agents in addition to the two made yesterday to Zach Strief and Usama Young, bringing the grand total to thirteen RFA offers. Here is the full list of restricted free agents, for those of you keeping score at home...
- Jammal Brown (tendered 1st and 3rd round - $3.619 million)
- Roman Harper (tendered 1st round - $2.521 million )
- Lance Moore (tendered 2nd round - $1.759 million)
- Zach Strief (tendered 2nd round - $1.759 million )
- Jermon Bushrod (tendered 2nd round - $1.684 million)
- Pierre Thomas (tendered 2nd round - $1.684 million)
- Anthony Hargrove (tendered 3rd round - $1.226 million)
- Dave Thomas (tendered 3rd round - $1.176 million))
- Courtney Roby (tendered 3rd round - $1.176 million)
- Usama Young (tendered 3rd round - $1.101 million)
- Marvin Mitchell (tendered 7th round - $1.101 million )
- Remi Ayodele (tendered $1.101 million )
- Chris Reis (tendered $1.101 million )
- Tory Humphrey
- Kyle Eckel
- Rodney Leisle
- Anthony Waters
- Jahri Evans
- Leigh Torrence
- Mike Bell
- Jeff Charleston
No surprises to me as far as the players who received tenders. All are deserving. There are, however, two players on the list who didn't receive offers and it's got me quite alarmed: Jahri Evans and Mike Bell.
Noticeably absent from the list is All-Pro guard Jahri Evans, but there's no reason for alarm.
Whew! Thanks Times-Pic. He's going to get a big boy contract. But what about Mike Bell?
Okay, so I'm not really alarmed that Mike Bell wasn't offered a contract but it's still interesting. There's definitely time left for an offer to be made but I'm thinking other than Jahri Evans, the Saints are finished with their tender offerings. In an attempt not to over pay, the Saints may let Bell hit the market and agree to match the best offer he receives. But like Darren Sharper said earlier this week...
"...if you want someone back, why are you going to let them test the market?,"
Ouch! So does this mean we get to fire up all the the LaDainian Tomlinson talk for real this time?
I was listening to Jeff Duncan discuss this very topic with Bobby and Deke on WWL's Sports Talk while driving to dinner last night. All of them thought Drew could very well be the reason we might see LT in a Saints uniform next season, so long as he was willing to accept a limited role in the Saints running back rotation.
If the LT talk remains pure speculation, then it could mean the Saints will definitely draft a running back at some point in this years draft. We know they almost traded up for Beanie Wells last year so that definitely within the realm of possibility. Or they might feel their running back is "already in the building." We'll just have to wait and find out.
The other thing to watch is the situation at offensive tackle. Though we don't know the details, Jammal Brown was tendered an offer and not signed to any long-term or significant deal. Jermon Bushrod and Zach Strief were also made offers so I would say the Saints are definitely looking for another team to bite on any one of them, most likely Brown or Bushrod. I'm with coldpizza; I'd like to see that happen.
One last point I wanted to make before turning it over to all of you. I'm sure most of us can agree that the new rules regarding free agency in the uncapped year are certainly a little confusing but opinion seems to be divided as to whether they're beneficial or harmful to the post-Super Bowl Saints this off-season. John DeShazier of the Times-Pic appears to be one of those "glass is half empty" people, judging from his latest article, "Free agency rules don't favor New Orleans Saints." He feels...
The rule changes that have gone into effect this year, the final year of the collective bargaining agreement between owners and players, certainly don't do the Saints any favors.
Specifically, this one: The final four playoff teams aren't allowed to sign any unrestricted free agents unless they lose one first, and they can only sign a new player at a similar salary level...
...Sure, it's a fact that New Orleans already has proven it has enough stars to reach the top. It'd be nice if the rules allowed them to bring in one or two more in the effort to stay there.
This may be true but I'm an optimistic kinda guy. How could you not be after this season. So I've got to disagree with John on this one. After all, if the Saints have "enough stars to reach the top" then we should be thankful that the other new free agency rules making certain players restricted free agents who would normally be unrestricted, also help keep some of those stars - like Jammal Brown, Roman Harper, Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans and Anthony Hargrove - in New Orleans and away from greedy teams looking to pluck Super Bowl talent. Two sides to every coin. Hopefully after next season is over, we'll all be celebrating the Saints good fortune of winning their first Super Bowl directly before an uncapped season, giving them a better chance to win their second.
Lots to discuss here, so start talking.
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please, no lt
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league, Drew Brees.''
-- Sean Payton
by DeuceisLoose926 on Feb 26, 2010 6:26 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
maybe they'll try to sign Bell to a 2-year cheap deal
and see how it pans out? But, I would not be surprised if Bell is not resigned by the Saints.
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
If he’s “already in the building” then it has to be Hamilton, as there isn’t anybody else on the roster, is there? Well, except the extra fullbacks…
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
One thing to say...
Nobody of the guys in the bracket 4-6yy (who are “screwed” by the uncapped year) will sign their tenders ahead of training camp. If a new CBA is reached before then they would basically shoot themselves on the feet. This will create disruption to say the least.
I am inclined to think that yes thats good we dont get raided by other teams with the uncapped year but this is coming at a price
Bring the wood
I'm pretty sure that 2010 is set in stone as of 3/5
I can’t imagine they’d start the NFL year under one set of rules and then change them in the middle of the game if they agree on a new CBA in let’s say June. And they’re definitely not getting anything done in the next 7 days.
Once the calendar hits March 5, I’m pretty sure that any new CBA would go into effect 3/5/2011.
At any rate, I agree with Dave. I don’t think the uncapped year is screwing the Saints at all. In fact, I think the Saints have gotten quite lucky in this whole thing. Getting something for Brown vs. nothing otherwise. Etc.
We’d have been screwed if the Saints had gone 9-7, somehow lucked their way into the final 8, and ended up with a lot of UFAs. That would have been a nightmare. But as it turned out, I think the Saints are sitting is REALLY good shape, even (IMHO) better than they would have been in a “regular” year.
by Grandmaster Wang on Feb 26, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions
You are right
If the CBA isn’t finalized by March 5th (the start of free agency) then the 2010 season is set in stone as being an uncapped year and the 3-5 year players will be locked in as RFAs. The NFL will not change the rules in the middle of the game as far as free agency is concerned.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Not entirely true
Say a Jamaal Brown signs his tender even after March 5th and AFTER THAT a new CBA is reached… he stays RFA (since he signed) even though he would be back being a UFA… there is no incentive for the 4/6 years guys to sign ahead of training camp
Bring the wood
But that’s just what VA / Wang / etc are all saying… it won’t matter. Even if they sign a new CBA on 3/6. (Not like there’s any chance of that happening…)
Unless the league and union agree to push back the league year start BEFORE the new league year starts, they’re RFAs for the rest of 2010 regardless of a new CBA or lack thereof.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I think you have a few facts wrong
March 4th is the deadline for a new CBA to have any impact on the free agency process for this year. The reason for this, as you mentioned, is that it would be extremely disruptive for the rules of the game to be changed in the middle of the process. If March 5th gets here and there is no new CBA, then anyone who is a RFA stays a RFA for the entire free agency signing period of this offseason, regardless of what happens in the new CBA negotiations.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
I have to agree with you. Also, had the Saints finished 9-7, how many players would want to come to New Orleans, even if we did happen to lose enough of our own to accomodate them? The condition of the city itself aside, you’re talking about an owner who makes a living selling cars, currently one of the most unstable venues in the high dollar market. He’d be competing with real estate and oil industry moguls in cities with multiple Fortune 500 companies, better public school systems for the children of players, lower crime rates, less political corruption, nearby beaches or skiing, more concert halls, etc. There’s dozens of advantages other major U.S. cities have over a tiny market like New Orleans. “We’re the defending Super Bowl champs” is about as big as consolation leverage gets.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Couldn’t be any worse than what it was back in 2006 as far as attracting players. The front office and the coaching staff seemed to have done a pretty good job of getting FAs prior to this year.
It would be far worse. There was a salary cap in ‘06. Tom Benson doesn’t have Daniel Snyder’s money. Or Jerry Jones’s. Or Al Davis’s. They would be extremely hard pressed to compete for UFAs, just as Jacksonville and Buffalo (two small market teams that didn’t make the playoffs) will be this uncapped offseason.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Tom Benson doesn’t have Daniel Snyder’s money. Or Jerry Jones’s. Or Al Davis’s
Benson prints his own, as needed, like The Fed, remember?
Saints ranked 5th of 32 teams in payroll in 2009 at $131M, with Oakland in 1st at $152M.
It’s not a matter of “we don’t have the money”, it is “I don’t want to spend my fortune on THAT”. Jesus1000, how much do you think that suit cost?
"We’re going to pay attention to salary structure just like we always have." -Loomis
Whoops, poop-can that, it is 2008 numbers
2009 numbers here
Saints are 4th of 32 teams at $121M. First is the Giants at $137M.
No, I wouldn't lie.
You know I'm not that kind of guy.
I know how much it costs
how much do YOU think it costs?
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
RE: the suit
If I’m talking about how much it costs, then I can’t afford it. Not without selling more stock.
No, I wouldn't lie.
You know I'm not that kind of guy.
you probably don't own enough stock
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody of the guys in the bracket 4-6yy (who are "screwed" by the uncapped year) will sign their tenders ahead of training camp.
If these guys are SMART, they will sign their offers long before then. Why? Because after the RFA “other team signing period” ends, then from somewhere right around that point in time up until June 15th, the original team can withdraw the previous offer and instead substitute 110% of the previous year’s salary and still retain exclusive rights to the team.
So many players who are RFAs will sign their tenders just as soon as the option to go elsewhere is gone and their old teams remind them of this little problem for them.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I think FriarBob is really Khai Harley.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Hah! Well my skin would disagree with you. Plus my degree is in Computer Science, not Accounting. Plus I’m not quite as old.
Sorry, I’m just obsessive compulsive to know everything about anything I care about.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
Let me just say
Thank god the Saints won the Super Bowl. Can you imagine being a team like the Jets? Yea they made it to the AFC Championship game, but I really believe they need a good bit of help, mainly on offense, to really contend for a championship. But because of the final four rule, chances are they won’t get much help. When i first heard about the rule, I said the Saints better win it all now because it’s gonna be hard if they don’t. This kind of helps the Saints but the teams that it really hurts are the Colts, Jets, and Vikings.
but the teams that it really hurts are the Colts, Jets, and Vikings.
Now that’s a shame.
"We’re going to pay attention to salary structure just like we always have." -Loomis
if favre decides not to come back
does that open up a lot of money for the vikes to sign a free agent?
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 26, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Nope. He’s under contract, so his contract won’t expire and nobody else will be paying him big money.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
No it isn't free agency that's hurting those teams
THE SAINTS PUT THE HURT ON THOSE TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFFS
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 26, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcasm font?
For your information Viking's and Colt's fans, no matter how much you say it, you were not the better team in 2009.
As far as I'm concerned,
I say use PT bush and Hamilton. I also like what I saw from donaldson. This is all a result of a very good O line. I would rather young unproven hungry runners instead of a fat cat rb like LT. Give me guys with chips on their shoulder.
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Feb 26, 2010 11:21 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Donaldson is a Cowboy. Judging from your surname, you should know this.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
It is on the record. You should read coldpizza’s comments at least as thoroughly as I do. Which is say, you know, browse….
"We’re going to pay attention to salary structure just like we always have." -Loomis
My point was more about not signing an older RB
The fourth RB should be a young hungry fa rb that has something to prove. Not an aging rb like LT. I was hoping donaldson was still available but I was wrong. Sue me. I like the idea of trusting this O line and act like den back in the day and pull another rb out of nowhere. U have more needs than rb when sp goes stretches without running the ball anyway. He did run more this year before one of u freakin geniuses correct me on that too.
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Feb 26, 2010 3:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm going to miss Mike Bell
if he’s really not back with us. He had some great games, especially early in the season. For a while there he was our best running back. I could see why the Saints might decide to pass on him, but he was a big part of our run this year. He’s a fun player to watch play with his running style. That said, his play really deteriorated over the course of the season. As I said above, by the end of the year, Hamilton was producing more.
Just updated the tenders
PT only got a 2nd round tender. Interesting.
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I think they’re trying to tempt their rivals…
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I think you're right
would they really give up PT? I would be so pissed.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't even pretend to understand any of this tender/free agency stuff.
BUT they can’t seriously be thinking of letting PT go??? I guess since Dave said it, I can say it too: I would be pissed…really pissed.
"It's better to burn out than fade away."
by SaintsFan-KS on Feb 26, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Me three! (or is it four now)
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
And Jammal Brown
was tendered at the highest level. Don’t think anyone’s going to give up a first and third rounder for Brown.
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supposedly
they have to increase the players salary at a minimum by 10%, which means that they might as well tender him at the highest level. they can still negotiate a trade for less than a 1st and 3rd.
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 26, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
No supposedly about it. The new tender offer must be at least 110% of the previous salary UNLESS they are tendered with a special “right of first refusal only” tender that carries no compensation at all.
Also, a team can give a higher tender and the player can actually ask to instead extend their previous contract with the same terms for one year at 110% if they wish. So the player can actually choose to accept a lower salary number but get the guarantees or bonuses or whatever else were in the previous contract.
It’s a complicated mess. Florio is a complete idiot in many areas but he is good for explaining legal mumbo jumbo like the CBA.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I'm not sure why everone thinks RB is a problem
Can’t seem to figure why we need any change or help at the RB position. PT is gold, Reggie does his thing and looks to be improving, Bell had great games and some not so great games but is still a good back. Hamilton seemed to be pretty good when he got touches. 4 freakin capable and proven RB’s aren’t enough? I can only see looking to place someone else in that line-up if a player leaves, such as Bush because of salary and contract issues, or Bell for similar reasons. Hey I’m sure there is a player or two out there that may be an upgrade over Bell and possibly Hamilton but I would think the Saints have more pressing needs. Instead of trying to fix something that ain’t broken (running game seemed to be pretty good last year with these guys) they should work on getting better on D-line, improving LB corps by adding a solid guy or two to the mix, and looking to shore up the back-up corners and free safety positions (injuries took their toll there last year). We got more receivers than we can start and their all good. We have some quality at the TE position but maybe could use a young guy for the future there. The O-line is good but definitely should look for another tackle to upgrade a back up position because Bushrod did have some problems filling in at times. So I think we can all agree that keeping the guys that got you there with maybe upgrading the obvious problem areas that could have got you beat the year before is the smartest direction to go right?
There were many drives over the course of the year that ended on failed short yardage rushing attempts. If they’re converted, maybe we’re not involved in dog fights that come down to missed chip shot FGs by our opponents, strips on INT returns, pick sixes deciding games, etc. Those are the types of plays good teams shouldn’t have to rely on. All eight planets aligned for the Saints in 2009. With a little tinkering in certain areas, maybe only three or four planets will have to align for them to play in Arlington next February.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
All eight nine planets aligned for the Saints in 2009.
F*** NASA, Pluto’s still a planet in my book.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
haha
if you didn’t say it, I would have. Still a weird concept.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nine
just DOES not work as a pneumonic device for me
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 26, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
or does NOT work for me
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 26, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
HA! my favorite astronomy joke
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 27, 2010 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
Well I would hope it wouldn’t give you a disease either! Especially one as nasty as pneumonia. Keep that crap as far away from all of us as possible!
Oh you meant mnemonic device… my bad.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
thanks for the correction
my mneumatic spell checker must be broken :-)
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 28, 2010 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
Bell…is still a good back.
This right here is where the disagreement starts. Some people don’t necessarily agree with this.
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I don't think he was ever a good back.
He’s played to his potential for short periods of time because he had a chip on his shoulder. Thing about guys like Bell though is that the chip just vanishes. Poof. Gone. For no reason whatsoever.
He’s a slacker. Which is why he was released twice before he ever got here. He just doesn’t have the give-a-damn. He’ll turn it on just long enough to get comfortable. Then he’ll coast until he gets cut. It’s a full blown pattern at this point.
He’s the Jonathan Sullivan of tailbacks. (I’d say the Randy Moss of tailbacks, but he can’t hold Moss’ jock even when Moss is in one of his “I don’t care” cycles.)
by Grandmaster Wang on Feb 26, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
LT
I read a lot of negative stuff on us maybe picking up LT. There are 2 reasons why I like the idea. First we have been terrible at picking up short yardage for the last 2 seasons. PT and Bell who I both love on the team just do not have the ability to constantly get that one yard when it counts.
Second reason is that I see LT as the perfect Mentor for Bush to push him to the next level. Bush has physical gifts unmatched in the NFL and LT has been the best North/South runner in the NFL for the last decade…can anyone think of a better player to guide Reggie?
Plus it will make Brees happy so its all good.
We will have Evans
back for short yardage situations.
Illusions, Michael. Tricks are what whores do for money...and candy.
From the poll, most think we'll draft an RB...
and why not? Look at some of the mock drafts, even though there are some good RBs out there, there might be what, 1 or 2 going in the first round total? The huge supply of DT and DE (who will unfortunately be gone by the time it gets to us) have pushed some RBs who would usually be out of our reach at 32nd into our reach. Now I’m not advocating that we should draft a RB—I think we’d get mileage out of a DT or DE—but if an RB is the highest grade player at our draft spot, and we lose one or more of our current RBs, then I don’t think it’s such a terrible idea, and I can see the Saints (potentially) trying it.
I find these two particularly interesting
Chris Reis (tendered original draft round)
Remi Ayodele (tendered original draft round)
being that neither player was drafted.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
take it up with the Times-Pic
Defensive tackle Remi Ayodele, linebacker Marvin Mitchell, safety Chris Reis, tight end David Thomas and receiver Courtney Roby were all tendered at the lowest level, which means their compensation is equal to the round they were originally drafted in.
I just call ’em like I see them.
They’ve since changed their mind…
No draft-pick compensation
DT Remi Ayodele ($1.101 million)
S Chris Reis ($1.101 million)
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
The problem is that the “original draft round” and the “right of first refusal only” tenders are the exact same amount. So when all you know is the dollar figure, you have to guess which is which.
The Saints could basically use either if the player was undrafted. Otherwise, the only real reason to use the RoFRO tender is to avoid paying the 110% increase to a player with a rather high salary the previous year.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
Disspite the Jibber Jabber and the naysayers...............
I see the writing on the wall for Mike Bell. I see him out and LT in and only because Drew Brees wants it to happen. I also believe that Drew has the teams success in mind and would not jeprodize the future of the team with an atempt to help a friend. Drew has planted a seed in Paytyons ear and the plays are already being drawn up on napkins at dinner.
Mike Bell is nothing but an average back and not as versatile as compared to Pierre and Reggie and has shown very little effectiveness since early in the season. The coup-de gra was not knowing what shoes to wear during the Super Bowl and he never got another sniff at the field. Shoes should have been addressed during warm ups if he had been working out as he should have.
Now…..LT only needs a new coat of paint and a tune up (mentally) to be a part of a Three Headed Monster that could dominate defenses from every angle and he could extend his carreer another 2-3 years for the right price. Pierre, Reggie, and LT running by committee would be like a vacation to LT…………….I see it working like a swiss watch !!!!
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Interesting..
Does anyone else besides me find it interesting that Roman Harper was tendered for a 1st round pick? Are we trying to get a team to bite on him?
by Ezio_Auditore on Feb 26, 2010 3:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Its more rare than respect for the Saints was on February 1st for any RFA safety to get moved when the price is a first rounder.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I don't believe there is a team in the league that would give up a 1st rounder for Harper.
I believe I saw somewhere that this is a farely deep draft at safety. No one wants Harper. His coverage skills are lacking a lil bit.
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Feb 26, 2010 3:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
That's what i thought
Yeah, I thought the tender for Roman Harper was a bit high, but I would be indifferent if a team plucked him for us. I’m tired of him dropping interceptions
by Ezio_Auditore on Feb 26, 2010 4:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think Harper is going anywhere
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 26, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Safetys must have big time coverage skills in todays game. Harper is more of a thumper.
He is worth a 4th, maybe.
KICK ASS every day!!!
No one wants Harper. His coverage skills are lacking a lil bit.
And yet, they froth for Antron Rolle. Somebody told me that the two are very similar.
He's not retarded, but he DOES have a syndrome.
That settles it. I’m naming my next child Antron. It’s too catchy a first name to go unused.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
and they're doing a remake of Tron in 3-D/IMAX, so if it happens soon (your 1st son) it'll be timely, too
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Feb 27, 2010 7:36 AM CST up reply actions
The one that caught my eye
Was Dave Thomas. He was tendered for a third rounder. I would nibble on Dat if I’m atl or another team with an aging te. He showed real versatility and good hands. Would hate to lose him.
by saints fan in cowboyland! on Feb 26, 2010 4:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
we can still match
im sure we would match someone elses offer if it was within reason
"When he's backed into a corner, that's when Drew stands up and does his best work. I mean, any time anyone says, 'You're too small, you're not fast enough, you're not gonna win' ... he loves being the underdog,"
- Brittany Brees
by DrewBreesManCrush on Feb 26, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
I see what Bells value is. He may think he is in for a big payday watching others cash in on a SB victory.
If he gets what he wants then go draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th round. No to LT unless he comes for league minmum and agrees to be a role player.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Liked the post
liked the feed back. Now we’re the heck do y’all find the time and the inside info. I just thought I was a fan. love it keep it up
OldFartFan
Saints will sign LT and Sharper to a one year deal. Evans will get a big pay day 5 yr deal. Bell will not return stayed hurt to much last season, look for them to draft in the 4th rd for a big back like Scott out of LSU. Saints need to see if they could bring LB Porter in as a back up roll to help Vilma out to give him a rest, I’m still not sold on this Mitchell kid as a back up MLB.
i read last night
on the crawl on nfln, saints want to give evans a big deal but sides were not close on contract
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by sernycrusher on Feb 27, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
"...if you want someone back, why are you going to let them test the market?,"
To determine a fair price for their services?
No question the Saints want Sharper, but if they can avoid giving him 7 million bucks for one year, they’re going to do it. I think it’s a reasonable move and it could end up making Sharper even more $$$.
totally agree
"if you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on earth" Bob Marley
by sernycrusher on Feb 27, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Agent: We think Darren Sharper is worth more than your tentative offer.
Loomis: Perhaps he is. Shall we take him to market, and find out definitively?
Agent: When you talk like that, it makes me think you’re gay.
Loomis: I most assuredly am not. Have you overlooked my goatee? But we digress… Let’s put Darren out to market and find his real value by the offers he attracts, and I… I mean we, will have right of last refusal. Is that acceptable?
Agent: I guess.
Loomis: Excellent!
He's not retarded, but he DOES have a syndrome.
anyone else
get a bad feeling we might take a rb in the first round? wouldnt be the worst thing in the world but i really want this defense to become dominant. maybe just selfishness, what do i know anyway, these guys do this for a living right
"if you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on earth" Bob Marley
get a bad feeling we might take a rb in the first round?
No. You guys worry too much.
He's not retarded, but he DOES have a syndrome.
relax stujo
just a thought
"if you know what life is worth, you will look for yours on earth" Bob Marley
I'm more worried that we trade UP
to get one. That would be worse.
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by Dave Cariello on Feb 27, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
The brees endorsement
Never has Drew in his career as a saint promoted publically the acquisition of any player.
What makes DREW happy makes the saints and the general management happy.
I think they will get LT. LT knows (at least i hope) that he is no longer an every down back
Based on that logic, he will join with the saints.
He did not have that many carries last season, however that is okay with the saints RB 3 headed gorilla monster gang.
Any other team that may be a problem.
Besides we could hire him as a “RB consultant”
he wants to start
rotoworld.com:
LaDainian Tomlinson-RB- Chargers Feb. 27 – 2:54 pm et
ESPN NFC East blogger Matt Mosley “wouldn’t be shocked” to see LaDainian Tomlinson with the Redskins in 2010. Mike Shanahan disclosed Friday that he and Tomlinson are friends who stay in touch. The Redskins have too many holes to upgrade the position early in the draft. Tomlinson and Clinton Portis could conceivably stage a training camp competition to if either back can outrun the grim reaper. It’s one of the few situations where LT would have a fighting chance to start.
He's not retarded, but he DOES have a syndrome.
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