Any lurkers from Viking land? Read this.
"And remember this: They call them takeaways. They don't call them giveaways. I don't want to hear that. It's not a turnover. It's a takeaway. If you take that approach, you go try and take the ball all the time. It's not something you just do half the time.''
about 2 years ago
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To borrow from the late, great Patrick Swayze,
Pain Don’t Hurt.
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
According to the media and Vikings fans
it’s only a takeaway if the Vikings do it.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
LOL
Isn’t it great knowing that the vikings suffering is only just beginning? They are going to have to actually pay attention to favre-watch all offseason. They are going to be praying every night before they go to sleep that the QB who ‘gave away’ the NFC Championship will grace their team with his presence one more time.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 4, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
I thought the Vikings/Saints squabble was over. I guess not so here goes:
Q: What does a stolen car and the Vikings have in common?
A: No title.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 4, 2010 6:38 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
My Saints have to play Dallas, Minnisota.Pheonix. and Indy at one time
cause they all cryin…………………I got so mad yesterday whe I saw the Dallas players telling what it took to beat the Saints………………………I broke all my cowboy DVD’s
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Even that "Brokeback" one?
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Feb 4, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
Argument in semantics...
I have always heard Turn Over margin as Takeaways – Giveaways… so inherently a turn over is both. As a rule of thumb, I view turnovers committed by the QB as being good plays by the defense. It was either good coverage or a great pass rush that resulted in a fumble. If the teams play again, those types of turnovers could be expected to repeat with some regularity. Turnovers by players other than a quarterback are mostly random events. They get tackled dozens of times per game and on any given hit you would not expect a fumble. Granted some players are more prone to fumbling than others, but even so you don’t go into a game expecting a player to fumble. So, basically; Saints 3 takeaways vs none for the Vikings. 2 Givaways from the Vikings, 1 by the Saints. Yes, the Vikings were unlucky… but the Saints were also good.
You're full of it
“Turnovers by players other than a quarterback are mostly random events.” I’d love to see the stats you compiled to come to that sweeping conclusion.
Watch the Saints-Vikings game again (did you watch it the first time?). Time and again the Saints stripped the ball from Vikings running backs. Deliberately. As they were coached to do.
I guess Peyton Manning randomly throws touchdowns, too.
"They caught me bathing and sold my clothes."
by MtnExile on Feb 4, 2010 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You beat me to it...
…yup, someone has not discovered that the state of denial is not actually a small country on the banks of a long river that flows north in Africa.
;-)
Irony: An atheist Saints fan.
by GSO Saints Fan on Feb 4, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
May I hilight the section “As a rule of thumb, I view” … This is not a statistical argument so much as a perception. I realize that players are taught to strip the ball but ultimately it is extremely difficult to remove the grasp of a player who sees the hit coming.
Other than DEs, i challenge you to name the best defensive players at causing fumbles. In fact, name the player who forced the most fumbles this year (no googleing.)
Admittedly this is a bit of a round about way to make the argument of “lack of consistency disproves causality.”
I will now flip my initial challenge and ask you to name RBs who are prone to fumbling.
Know where you can stick that rule of thumb?
Same place you can stick your challenge. You apparently don’t know anything about the Saints, their defense, Gregg Williams, or the way he coaches. That being the case, you have nothing useful to add to this discussion.
"They caught me bathing and sold my clothes."
You guys crack me up.
So much hostility.
by invisibulman on Feb 4, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
For the record, I am going to point out that I never said anything bad about the Saints, or their defense, or Greg Williams’s ability to coach.
I don't care if you say bad things
I care if you say stupid things. I care if it’s pointless to converse with you because you can’t understand the simplest propositions.
"They caught me bathing and sold my clothes."
I’m down with that!
"Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints are on their way to the Superbowl!!" Hear the call
Would anyone agree...
That the NFC Championship game has now sparked a form of rivalry that will linger for quite a while? Cross division rivalry? From my perspective, anytime someone says Saints around here it will be followed by people spitting or scowling.
As previously mentioned, i live in a city that is predominantly Viking and Packers fans. Not a word of a lie that there are some bitter bugs up here. It amazes me how many comments i get when i walk around in one of my Saints jerseys from bitter Vikings fans.
I will admit that i have headed over to the Daily Norseman just to see if they are still complaining about the game. If you look at their recommended fanposts “two of the five” are Saints or Saints fan related.
It makes me laugh! I was all for letting them lick their wounds. But get over it already.
I keep hearing about how dirty the players are, and one of the posts mentions how bad the fans are. Truth be told the last time i was in Minnie to watch a game and was supporting the 49ers (supporting one of my buddies), some chick was trying to get someone from the crowd to kick my ass. When i asked if there were “any takers”, to which there weren’t, she kept yelling to take out my knee. I guess that is just as classy. Don’t get me wrong, i wont stoop to their level and stereotype fans based on one chemically imbalanced woman, but just a little first hand experience that fan bases have good and bad.
Sorry for my rant, my son and wife are both sick so sleep was minimal. Truly living up to my nickname today.
me and Grumps need another cup of coffee or something
one of the posts mentions how bad the fans are.
Fans on the blogs? Guilty. Fans at the Superdome? No way. Plenty of Vikings fans there, and I did not see one confrontation. But suzjo4 did. The viking fan woman next to her with her purple feathered sign was getting some of what I would consider good natured grief (having been on the other end of it in Buffalo, I think I can judge) from the young man in the row behind us when she turned on him and called him a DB. Fortunately, the young man’s mother was sitting next to him and she scolded the viking woman for her bad manners. Point is, in the seats, on the concourses, outside and inside, and all the way up and down Poydras, I saw Vikings fans doing their thing without any harassment whatsoever. The Superdome is a great place for visiting fans, I wish all NFL venues were that hospitable.
What a shame Mary Jane had a pain at the party.
No the post is about fans at the Superdome
Some blah blah blah whine about fans heckling Favre when he was carried off. And some quote from a player:
“It was incredible,” Loeffler said. “They were cheering and saying they hoped his leg was broken and he’d never walk again. I know fans are out to cheer for their team, but I couldn’t believe some of the garbage I was hearing. I could have expected something like that from Philadelphia fans because they kind of pride themselves on being jerks and being hard on everybody. They were the guys that threw snowballs at Santa Claus. I get it. But everything we had heard about Saints fans was that they were going to be loud. They were. But some of things they said to Brett was way out of line and really pathetic.”
Guilty as charged
I screamed my butt off when Favre got carried off. I was euphoric. I ran to the front rail and held up my ’Favre’s retirement party’ sign. Not because I hoped he was injured, but because we knocked him out of the game and our chances of victory went way up.
There was no flag on the play, so how was I supposed to know he had been hit below the knees?
For the record, I jumped up and down in my living room when Warner got lit up. Unlike favre, I actually respect kurt. I LOVE big hits. They are the great equalizer. ‘Jacked Up’ was the best segment ESPN ever did. Hard tackling is what football is all about. It doesn’t make you a bad fan or person to enjoy fierce hits. Like G.W says: ’I’m not going to apologize for it’
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 4, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
I would argue that a quazi rivalry between the two clubs have existed since the late '80's
The Vikings owned the Saints in the playoffs in the late 80’s, and I read an article last year that talked about the psychological fear of the Vikings that permeated the Saints organization back then. It was bad. Curling up into a fetal position bad.
Then the Monday Night game last year just cemented my hate for that club. The Vikings were DOMINATED in every aspect of the game last year. Offense, Defense, Special Teams. They were the beneficiary of very questionable, and sometimes outright blown calls. (The Reggie Facemask that resulted in a lost fumble.) Freak plays (Blocked field goal attempt for a TD?!) Jim Rome talked the next day about how he couldn’t believe the Saints lost. He said he is the first person to say “Scoreboard”, but after that game he wasn’t so sure about that anymore.
Little did I know then, but for me, the memory of that Monday night game is what made the NFC Championship game SO DAMN SWEET! It’s a bitter F#$% pill, ain’t it Vikings fans!
"They're ready to be like 'Same Old Saints'" - Roman Harper, on each of the New Orleans Saints vanquished foes of 2009
by Hollywoo! on Feb 4, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 4, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
What goes around comes around
Seemed fitting.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Maybe i should just relocate
Move down to nawlins and get away from these meatheads. That way i wont have to put up with all the crying.
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere...
"Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints are on their way to the Superbowl!!" Hear the call
by Dan Kelly on Feb 4, 2010 10:53 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Tired of the whining!!
Get over it Vikings Fans.
I will get Farve credit. He is one TOUGH SOB. I am 40 years old and not even GGM could cook up a spell strong enough for me to play in the NFL. Much less play as well as Farve did all season. He gets mega props for not only showing up, but kicking a$$.
That said, GW put in a plan .. very simple… HIT FARVE. There was nothing dirty about it. There was nothing evil. Just hit him and knock him senseless and in the end he got hit so much he made a mistake and, as planned, we are in the Superbowl.
So Vikings fans, sit on the couch, shut up and enjoy the game while the Saints abuse Payton worse than a Barbie at a GI Joe convention.
WHO DAT !!
"that was a floater!" Troy Aikmen (during the Cowgurls/Philly Playoff game)
you do realize
the Vikings are on the schedule to come to the Dome next year. No doubt the NFL will make that a Monday night game. Maybe even the first week of the season.
Return of the BRET.
"I've been waiting almost four years for this!!!" said MobileSaint when Hartley's kick split the uprights.
Return of the Tarvaris, homie.
"I do know that we have some unfinished business that we started a few years ago and we want to finish the deal."- Dulymus McAllister
If Bret comes back and they make that the first game of the season, that would SUCK for Vikings fans and management.
I have a strong feeling that would be the end of his career. We’d hit him with the same aggressiveness and “nastiness”… I have a bad feeling that he wouldn’t get up.
That’s not being boastful. I’m genuinely concerned for his health.
"Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints are on their way to the Superbowl!!" Hear the call
Saints Fans
I show empathy for you my friends. The accursed MSM despises my Broncos as well. Nevertheless, you had more sustained success than we did and because you’re not the darlings and don’t have sex with Brett Favre like the media does, they scorn you. Screw em, just do the best you can and we’ll see what happens against the Colts. I’m expecting a good game. Don’t disappoint me….
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Feb 5, 2010 2:54 AM CST reply actions
Thanks, bro! Well said!
"Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints are on their way to the Superbowl!!" Hear the call
WHO DAT!!!
I’m getting exited!!!!!!
About to go to my g/f’s for the big party!!
I’ve got chills for no reason!!
"Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints are on their way to the Superbowl!!" Hear the call
hey, guys
Here is a Vikes fan, whak makes me the maddest, is that ESPN said you guys lost the NFC super bowl, and that the AFC Lost this game. We’ll as pissed off that we didn’’t win the NFC game but hey, ass-holes, the NFC won the superbowll, get used to it!!!!
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