2010 NFL Combine: Monday Open Thread

by Dave Cariello on Mar 1, 2010 12:50 PM CST

Sorry I was a little late on this one. They're actually making me work here today.

For those of you watching the defensive lineman and linebackers work out today, feel free to use this thread to chat live about what's going on.

If you don't have NFLN or you're at work, you can watch live right here at NFL.com.

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Everyone's favorite Sean Weatherspoon tore up the bench press.

Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!

by Joseph William Stern on Mar 1, 2010 1:00 PM CST reply actions

This open thread is blowing up!

Not all at once guys

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 1, 2010 1:34 PM CST reply actions

As a college student you know I'm always around.

Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!

by Joseph William Stern on Mar 1, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions

I didn't see his 40 time, but Witherspoon looks like a BEAST!

He is a “physical specimen” for sure!

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 1, 2010 1:40 PM CST reply actions

Agreed.

Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!

by Joseph William Stern on Mar 1, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions

Odrick will not be there for us

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league, Drew Brees.''
-- Sean Payton

by DeuceisLoose926 on Mar 1, 2010 1:47 PM CST reply actions

Uh oh. Before this point I didn’t realize I could watch the combine for free… we’re all in trouble now… of me falling asleep…

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 1, 2010 2:10 PM CST reply actions

ALERT: Bottom scroll says "Thomas Jones to be released on March 5th."

If you think we need to sign another RB, he’d be the top free agent.

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 1, 2010 2:35 PM CST reply actions

way too many dollar for him…

NOW you’re just messing with me.

The budget is merely a concept. There is no cap. There is no artificial, arbitrary limit. If we need a guy, we get the guy. Get him cheap if you can, but if you have to have him, get him.

They will never say “We would have liked to have signed player X, but we just couldn’t afford him.”

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by stujo4 on Mar 1, 2010 3:02 PM CST reply actions

There is no artificial, arbitrary limit. If we need a guy, we get the guy. Get him cheap if you can, but if you have to have him, get him.

Is this what you want? Or what you think the team will do? Because I don’t think the Saints are just gonna throw money around. They’ve said they’re gonna work with a cap in mind.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 1, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions

What I want is for guys to stop saying it is too much for this or that player. Without the cap, there is no basis for that comment. The Saints can’t run into cap trouble because there is no cap.

I don’t think they’ll throw money around, either. But if PayLoo feel like they HAVE to have a guy, I’m pretty sure Mickey will go hat in hand and ask TomRita for the extra $2M to $5M they hadn’t planned to spend this year. The sky is not really the limit, I’ve exaggerated that. The limit is very flexible though, I believe.

No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any f*****g Merlot!

by stujo4 on Mar 1, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions

That GDub gambit (“I’ll pay the excess out of my own salary!”) really bought them some credibility with Tom Benson.

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by stujo4 on Mar 1, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions

stujo4

Tell me the truth.
Are you the secret identity of Jesus1000?
That post you did the other day where you said you “summoned him” blew my mind. I read it way late so i couldn’t determine if you were joking or the time frame.
If you have been J1000 all along, I’m going to give you a standing ovation.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 1, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions

Honest to Christ (as a former boss used to say), I am not Jesus1000. Saintsational Dave can verify the IP addresses on the posts.

I can’t summon him. He just shows up.

No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any f*****g Merlot!

by stujo4 on Mar 1, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions

Oh well

It would be pure genius if you were.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions

the problem is that it is too much or too little for a player

just because there is not a cap in 2010, it is only going to be 2010. unless you’re saying that a player of thomas jones’ calliber is going to take a one year deal, you’re wrong. the organizations must still work with a cap in mind, because the salary cap is going to return – just not in 2010

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league, Drew Brees.''
-- Sean Payton

by DeuceisLoose926 on Mar 1, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions

You seem to fear the salary cap, perhaps because you do not understand it. I do not understand the salary cap, but I do not fear it. If the Saints sign Darren Sharper to a 3 year 12$ contract, $4M each year for 2010, 2011, 2012, and the NFL and the CBA sign a new salary cap agreement for 5 years starting in 2011, how much do you think Sharper is going to count against the cap? I doubt that, in this scenario, the Saints would get into any cap trouble. Same with Thomas Jones with the numbers tweaked a bit.

You can’t make roster decisions for 2010 in fear of what the unstated terms of a future salary cap agreement might be. It might cost you Super Bowl 45.

No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any f*****g Merlot!

by stujo4 on Mar 1, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions

ic ic

I do not understand the salary cap, but I do not fear it.

Teh top brass do not “fear” it either, but they understand it. And they know that if they over extend themselves this year (even if they have the money) they will VERY likely be forced to cut several good players the next year…

Which would destroy any thoughts of a dynasty… especially since we’re already near the top of the salary range.

Sure, we might have a better chance to win this coming SB, but it would kill our chances at the next one and the next one after that.

Quick example:

We sing J. Peppers and T. Jones, and Adalius Thomas (wouldn’t that be freakin’ awesome) and we sign them to deals which put us over the salary cap in 2011 by $20mil.

A. Which players do you now drop?

B. When you drop those players there will be “cap penalties” which will “count against the cap” in that same year… so, instead of having the cap at $100mil (the cap without penalties) our would be $85mil…

So, you need to drop EVEN MORE players just to stay under the cap.

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You don’t have to “fear it”, but you MUST plan for it.

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 1, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions