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Spoke to Darren Sharper, who hasnt ruled out a return to NOLA but says Saints havent shown enough love yet.

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Saints haven't shown enough "love" yet?

Love=$$$$, or, with fear of getting sued by the NFL, “Cha-Ching!”

He’s not going to get a lot of visits on crutches.

by BRSaintsFan on Mar 10, 2010 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

Kinda tacky

“Love” definitely = $$$$. I like Darren and all, but a classier way to say it is “they are all still negotiating a contract agreement.” He’s 34 years old and on crutches. I don’t know how much more “love” he thinks he should get. I want him back and all, but at a reasonable price. I’m sure Payton and Loomis feel the exact same way.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by satchmo26 on Mar 10, 2010 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

Oh Yeah!

Who else can host a party but N.O.??

by BRSaintsFan on Mar 10, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess nothing compares to what he got on that boat in Minnesota...

Oh, I forget, he wasn’t on that boat, right?

In the beginning, Mr. T created the heavens and the earth. And Mr. T said, "Let there be fools"; and there were fools. And Mr. T saw that the fools were bad; and pitied them.

by ArithMattic on Mar 10, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

v v v

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Mar 10, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

KABOOM!!! REC'D IT!!! +1,000,000

He needs to read this…

Hey Darren, you remember that parade between the Super Bowl and Mardi Gras? THAT was love! You won’t get that anywhere else.

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 10, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Love is a matter of a bigger check?

Well, unless you’re a member of KISS, where it would then be a matter of your d***.

And if I say I wanna set you free
Don't you know you'll be in misery

by stujo4 on Mar 10, 2010 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Personally

I think Sharper is showing his “other” side and, frankly, it’s quite a turn off.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 10, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

I agree.

Disappointing.

"It's better to burn out than fade away."

by SaintsFan-KS on Mar 10, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No love for his B.S.

I’m about ready to show him the door.
Dude needs to shut his mouth.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 11, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

does this mean we're thin at corner?

doesn’t look like he’s coming back, and now Jenkins can assume his true role. Randall Gay as our No. 3 CB is scary to me…

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by LocoSaint on Mar 11, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

2010 draft is deep.

Jesus1000 is just all right with me

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Truth

i want more picks though. I see a lot of value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so we should dump our first rounder because i think we can get better value in those rounds

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by LocoSaint on Mar 11, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

you keep saying that

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

it's beginning to take on a bit of "best player available"-type luster (lustre?)

"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis

by HansDat on Mar 13, 2010 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

we're seeing some backlash here, Darren

Perhaps we should not have tried to embarrass Mickey by making him appear cheap.

And if I say I wanna set you free
Don't you know you'll be in misery

by stujo4 on Mar 10, 2010 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

I understand he's probably looking at his last NFL contract

but I don’t think he should overplay his hand here. He’s getting old – ancient for his position in the NFL – and is coming off of surgery. And there is still the possibility of a work stoppage after this coming season and he might never play again after this year. Hopefully this is all posturing and he comes to his senses, because I don’t think the Saints are trying to low-ball him.

by Nabb1 on Mar 10, 2010 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

I think he has seen his last contract...........Shut up and play ball or go sit on the couch

and watch……………..I wish my job paid me 1.7 mill a year………….To Play 16 games ( 4 months)

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by saint-sly on Mar 11, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

because I don’t think the Saints are trying to low-ball him.

Sharper made $1.7M last year. We don’t know what the Saints offer to him is for 2010, but it is less than the franchise tag of $6M+.

If the Saints are offering him less than $2M, they are definitely low-balling him.

Nothing wrong with paying a guy more in his 2nd year for less production, it makes up for underpaying him in the first year. He was a steal in 2009.

The radio was playin'
Her fingertips were strayin'
Her mama didn't know she was there

by stujo4 on Mar 10, 2010 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

Sure he was a steal.

His record for the previous seasons wasn’t good. He looked like he was getting old. The Saints paid him accordingly. The fact that he played incredibly well doesn’t change the fact that the organization was taking a chance on him. I disagree that he was underpaid the first year. He simply outplayed projections.

Now, should he get more in his 2nd season? Absolutely. Sharper has proven that his flat play in Minnesota was probably more their system than his age. He is flourishing under GW and, barring major injuries, should continue to do so until his age really does catch up with him. But he won’t get franchise player money (6 mill). Unless they really are lowballing him to the tune of 2 mill. he should take the money and play for an organization and a fanbase that appreciates him and wants him back. There’s the love. Real love.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 11, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

If he is worth so much money

Why isn’t he signed a contract somewhere else. Whenever I think Sharper I see a guy making great INTs and then I cant help but remember the 1st play of the 2009-10 playoffs.

by andyp111 on Mar 10, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Why isn’t he signed a contract somewhere else.

Because he’s 34 years old and currently hobbling around on crutches, post surgery.

The radio was playin'
Her fingertips were strayin'
Her mama didn't know she was there

by stujo4 on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

That's called Sarcastica

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 11, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

the new Battlestar?

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Not enough love?

Darren, I challenge you to find a NFL city with more reasonably priced prostitutes than New Orleans. How much more love do you need to be shown?! Sure Detroit hookers may be cheaper, but their meth addictions really detract from value. What? That’s not the “love” he meant? Then disregard this post.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Mar 10, 2010 4:23 PM CST reply actions  

No lie

I was in Harrahs one nights and this guy had 20 buck in chips and said he was leaving while he still had eough money for 2 hookers.

by andyp111 on Mar 10, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I had a fanshot of this before Dave

But since he is the “el hefe” he gets to post his at the top!

A quote posted on Rotoworld:


Free agent FS Darren Sharper indicated Wednesday that he feels low-balled by the Saints’ initial contract offers.
“If the love was right, that would have been taken care of,” he said. “The love would have been reciprocated.” Sharper, coming off arthroscopic knee surgery, plans to begin formally taking free agent visits within “a week or so.”

For your information Viking's and Colt's fans, no matter how much you say it, you were not the better team in 2009.

by Grumps on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

actually I saw yours

then clicked on it and got an error message. Then looked back and it was gone. Then looked back and it was there. Yours also linked to that actual T-P article. Good work there.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 10, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I am wishy washy

No i am not. Well maybe.

For your information Viking's and Colt's fans, no matter how much you say it, you were not the better team in 2009.

by Grumps on Mar 10, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I Hate This . . .

It’s just a total buzzkill to have these kind of riffs before the guys even have their rings.

I don’t blame Sharper, even though I think he’s not handling it particularly well. He’s a football player, not a businessman, and I’m sure he felt like all of the Championship euphoria would be a kind of substitute for realistic negotiations.

And I don’t blame Mickey, either. He IS a businessman, and a hell of a businessman, and he is trained to look at business with a cold eye, particularly when you’re emotionally as well as financially invested.

That being said, I think that it would be worth it for the Saints to overpay Sharper an extra 2 million on a 2 year contract and possibly put some kind of injury clause stipulation in the contract. Fujita had been a good candidate for replacement for the last 2 seasons and his value to the Saints was a lot more sentimental than practical, but I was still sorry to see him go. Sharper is a true impact player and a sentimental favorite—seeing this great league veteran and first-year Saint lead the WhoDat chant on the sidelines was one of the great joys of the season—so his departure would be a drag for both nostalgic and competetive reasons.

I hope they get a deal done, but I’m going to yield to Mickey Loomis’ wisdom on the matter. He’s been the Drew Brees of the business end.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 10, 2010 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

Unrelated, but . . .

 . . . whatever software this site uses for posts and comments is the cat’s @ss. It’s the Drew Brees of website software.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 10, 2010 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

it is pretty sweet, huh?

I’d love to be able to edit your own comments, even if it were just for 30 seconds. (I’d like the ability to clean up typos that I notice right after I hit Post.)

That’s and maybe the ability to un-rec or ‘thumbs down’ a comment.

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 10, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Anti-rec! Best name so far for it. I’ve been anti-rec’d a few times. Ok a lot of times.

Even in a perfect world where everyone was equal
I'd still own the film rights and be working on the sequel

by stujo4 on Mar 10, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

You would be a

Gators and Falcons fan. Enough Said.

Missing home and my Saints.

by Brazil meets LA on Mar 10, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta admit the dude can jump.

What do the Gators have to do with it? I just like f n football.

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Mar 10, 2010 8:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Somebody check that guy for steroids.

Nobody normal can jump that high.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 11, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Subscribed March 4th...

to the Falcons’ blog, March 7th to the Jacksonville’s one and March 10th on CSC….Still, trashing already.

Yo Hawk, life going your way?

Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....

by FrenchFreak on Mar 10, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually I have been drinking Falcohol for much longer than that.

But as it were I couldn’t resist the chance to throw a sucker punch. Anyway congrats on the bowl win. I guess this will only validate our rivalry. I do have a question. Who is the guy you want at pick 32?

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Mar 10, 2010 8:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Lawrence Taylor!!!!

BH. CSC member since January 26th,. My bad….

Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....

by FrenchFreak on Mar 10, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends on who's left.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 11, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

THAT WAS AN AWESOME PICK, BUT YOU FORGOT THIS . . .

. . .

You gotta jump 14 feet in the air to pick off the QB or your main rival, who also happen to be WORLD CHAMPIONS!! Enjoy your YouTube clip!

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 10, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That's it.

Fed up with Sharper negociating through the medias. Give Young or Jenkins a shot at FS and stop waisting valuable UFA “hunt” time on Darren. Since Usama did pretty good in training camp, I wouldn’t mind having him as a starter with Jenkins on nickels and dimes. How about using that money to pay our six-footer under center anyway?

Worst case scenario, “porcelain” Gay is still on the field. Otherwise, I’m pretty comfortable with our two youngsters. They did both show some skills…

One last thought.

Again!

Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....

by FrenchFreak on Mar 10, 2010 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

If Sharper is counting on the masses of the Who Dat Nation

to make an argument for him I suspect that he’s out of luck. We are seeing the Mr. Hyde side of Darren. A 35 year old cripple does not have a strong negotiating position. If he thinks that he should get paid for sentimental reasons, then adios Muchacos..With the recent discovery of his other side, do we really want him in the locker room next season. One leads by example and so far post season he has set a poor one. If he is wanting “Sympathy” by whinning then he can findi it in the dictionary between Sh#T and Syphillis. He will get none from me….

"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading" Henny Youngman

by CaddoCoonass on Mar 10, 2010 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

Hey it's just business

I ain’t mad at Sharper wanting a bigger check. Who on this thread wouldn’t want a bigger check from your employer? I mean come on. But the team got to do what the team got to do to. It’s just business on both sides of the ball baby. Sharp got to try and get it now he’s only got 1 or 2 years left. He’s knows that, the front office knows that and he’s coming off a surgery. Everybody knows that in the league. He ain’t gon get it, but he/his agent got to ask for it, the team would be crazy to give it to him. It’s just the game. So don’t hate the playa hate the game! Words of wisdom from the Louisiana SuperStar Master P.

by BigTMill on Mar 10, 2010 9:25 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Didnt Master P

represent Ricky Williams? That didn’t go so well. Uhhhhhhhh

by maybetoday on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Showing The Love

Just in case you don’t get Sharper’s perspective, the money offered shows the amount of respect that the Saints have for him. I understand both sides of the fence here, and it is a business decision. Sharper feels as if the Saints have disrespected him after the season that he put up by failing to act in a hurry to secure his services for the rest of his career, or 3 years, whichever comes first. The Saints aren’t going “Bears Crazy” in free agency and just throwing money at people because of an uncapped year. They now have stock as a Super Bowl caliber team and some Free Agents want to be a part of that kind of team. Both sides are trying to do what is best for them. Sharper’s mangina got hurt when the Saints didn’t franchise him, the Saints feel that Sharper won’t hold up for the duration of the contract he wants. I say, give Sharper a 6 mill offer for two years, 2.5 mil guaranteed. If he doesn’t bite, then so be it, we can work Young into the mix.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Mar 10, 2010 11:27 PM CST reply actions  

the money offered shows the amount of respect that the Saints have for him.

We don’t know what that amount is. It might be $5M for 1 year. Or $.9M

Jesus1000 is just all right with me

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Whatever

The Saints offered Sharper 3 yrs/11 mil with 6 mil guaranteed, frontloaded I believe bc of the uncapped year. Any team willing to pay more than that is high. Sharper is just trying to get another team interested to drive up the price.

by RockinTheSuburbs on Mar 11, 2010 11:05 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm calling BS

until you reveal your source.

Jesus1000 is just all right with me

by stujo4 on Mar 11, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Never heard Dat either

Dallas media is talkin about the ‘boys interest in sharper. I wouldn’t mind tryin to steal sensebaugh from them( our first choice a year ago) especially if sharper wants a 3 yr deal. Let Jerry make that mistake.

by saints fan in cowboyland! on Mar 11, 2010 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

source is Ben Folds

alt-rock and roll pianist

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

sweeeeet

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm actually a Ben Folds fan

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

My wife is a huge fan

I don’t know that much of his stuff myself.

by Jay Preece on Mar 11, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

more reliable than Rotoworld

or 3 Doors Down

"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray

by HansDat on Mar 11, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

He woulda been lucky if they offered him that. We woulda franchised him before that offer and cut him lose after next year. I don’t think its over 3 mil a yr @ the most. If that much. Thats what I’m expecting around 2.5 to 3 mil a yr.

by shn_hldn on Mar 11, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Sharper is showing his own love
Free agent FS Darren Sharper believes he would be a good fit with the Jets.
Sharper says he has the “utmost respect” for coach Rex Ryan and loves his aggressive scheme. Sharper added that “there’s something about the big lights and the big city that fits me.” He also expressed interest in playing for the Bears, another team with a need at safety.

For your information Viking's and Colt's fans, no matter how much you say it, you were not the better team in 2009.

by Grumps on Mar 11, 2010 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

It's how the game is played in the NFL.

I think we’ve just been lucky to this point that we haven’t had to put up with it.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 11, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd have more respect for him if he wasn't complaining to the media

As it stands, I’ve lost a lot of respect for him.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Mar 12, 2010 12:25 AM CST reply actions  

tweet

miketripletttp

Loomis’ best line: “Listen, I’ve got all the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don’t have all the money in the world for him.”

I'm a faker, a paper clown

by stujo4 on Mar 12, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

before I even knew you posted it, I made it my sigline

See?

"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis

by HansDat on Mar 12, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, great line.

Definitely the quote of this off season.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 13, 2010 6:45 AM CST up reply actions  

speaking of quotes, what's your sigline source?

"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis

by HansDat on Mar 13, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Let Me Google That For You... here you go:

http://tinyurl.com/ykc2mj7

:-D

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 13, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Funny - THANKS

"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis

by HansDat on Mar 13, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the source.

A musician friend told me that one time but I never knew where it came from. Thought he might have made it up himself.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 15, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not a huge country music guy, but, Randy’s one of the best!

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 13, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

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