2009 Saints Draft & CSC Comments Revisited
Since there hasn't been a lot of new Saints news lately, I was just perusing through the CSC archives and came across some of the many posts we all made in reference to the 2009 Saints draft last April. Our comments at the time are what's most interesting. Here's a Fanpost I posted right after the draft. Judging by the comments section, we were still trying to make sense of the Morstead pick. While MtnExile and I somehow go off on a Lord of the Rings tangent, saintsdevotee posted a sensible "let's wait and see" comment regarding Morstead:
It's possible the kicker is a good pickIf this guy is as good as Keonan(sp?) is in Atlanta, punting and kicking off, I guess he’s worth it. I just don’t believe he is, since no one has heard of this guy coming out of college.
I’m not gonna sweat it anymore. We’ll see what happens in August.
Gotta trust the professionals…
Morstead was indeed an excellent pick and his punts and kickoffs were very instrumental in our Super Bowl winning season (insert giddy, over-joyed laughter here).
MtnExile contributed a great post that graded the mainstream sports media graders. In hindsight, his overall grade of an A for the Saints draft was right on:
NEW ORLEANS. Grade: A
The Saints had little room to maneuver, with only four choices. But you have to factor in that three of their picks were already used to put Jeremy Shockey and Jonathan Vilma in black and gold. Shockey had a solid season, for a tight end—it just wasn't spectacular, so he would seem to be overpriced as things stand now. Vilma, on the other hand, was spectacular: every bit the player he was when the Jets took him with the 12th overall pick in 2004. Getting that kind of value for a third-round pick alone elevates the Saints draft nearly to the top.In addition, New Orleans got Malcolm Jenkins—who may be the next Rod Woodson at cornerback, or bust at cornerback and be the next Rod Woodson at safety. Plus, the Saints added a solid safety prospect in Chip Vaughn, an intriguing linebacker prospect in Stanley Arnoux (both in the fourth), and punter/kicker Thomas Morland. Every real need the Saints had was addressed in some way, and with quality players.
(Today's Kool-Aid is Purplesaurus Rex.)
That Kool-Aid was delicious. Our fearless leader Saintsational also weighed in with his grades on the 2009 Saints' draft.. Since the Morstead pick was obviously the main topic of discussion at the time and has inevitably become a theme of this post, here's his take on that one:
Thomas Morstead - Punter - Southern Methodist University
C-
Initially this pick had me, and many other Saints fans, all hot and bothered. Up until selecting Morstead the Saints were doing a great job of choosing players that addressed their needs. But after taking a deep breath and drinking a couple of 190 Octanes I now have a better understanding of the reasoning behind this selection. Often an overlooked position, Punters play an important role in the field position game and the Saints haven't had anything too great in the punting department for quite a while. Still, drafting a specialist could blow up in the Saints face...again. The question from here on out will be, "Was he worth it?" They gave up their 2010 fifth round pick as well as this years seventh round pick just to land this guy. There were also players left on the draft board with higher grades than Morestead. The pressure is on. I'm not sure about this one but I am feeling generous so I went with a grade of C. Glenn Pakulak...your days may be numbered.
He was truly being generous with his grade of C-. Most of us were grading the trading away of draft picks for a punter somewhat lower than that. I'm very happy we were proven wrong and Morstead worked out so well for us. Enjoy that ring, Thomas! You and all the others truly deserve them.
This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.
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This year lets try sharkleberry
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 17, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I do believe I was one of the other people who was mostly calm and rational about the punter pick as well… but then I was also new around here and probably nobody knew who I was or cared what I thought.
Now you probably still don’t care, but at least you know who I am… :)
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
I remember and still care.
I think I was kinda on the fence. It was the trading away of this year’s 5th round pick that didn’t sit very well with me. In hindsight, it was totally worth it.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 17, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
i was the same way. i could've cared less about the 7th
but it was the 5th that had me kinda bothered. it was definetly worth it
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Mar 17, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Its is possible to have a bad draft and win the SB
look at the Broncos since winning the two SB to end John Elways career.
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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If you grade this draft class on what they contributed to winning the Super Bowl, I’d give it a C- … and that’s almost entirely based on Morstead’s play at punter. Include Shockey and Vilma and that jumps to a B+. In a draft where half the players actually selected have yet to see the field, I can’t rightly give them any more than that.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Somewhat agree
I’ve added another couple of poll choices.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
agree
I think a Super Bowl victory in 2010 would mean success in earlier drafts like 2006 or 2007.
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 17, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
With Arnoux & Vaughn being out...
….I would grade the draft as an “I” for incomplete, not all work turned in.
Based on the work turned in, it’s a “C”, but let’s see what the two guys that were on IR last year bring to the table befor passing final grades.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
Added
I guess I was thinking more about Pay-Loo’s preseason moves including the draft than about the individual performances of each draftee, when I created this poll. Pay-Loo definitely deserve the “A” for using future draft picks to get Shockey and Vilma and then filling a few holes with the remaining four picks. I think we can all agree on that.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 17, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
What about
“I like hamburgers”
"I have seen women walk right past a TV set with a football game on and - this always amazes me - not stop to watch, even if the TV is showing replays of what we call a "good hit," which is a tackle that causes at least one major internal organ to actually fly out of a player's body."
not again...I'm trying to be good and eat my baked salmon and steamed broccoli
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
eck
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 17, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the baked salmon sounds good
not so much for the steamed broccoli
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its a Great Day to be a Mountaineer where ever you may be" Tony Caridi
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
by WVPiratesfan on Mar 17, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
good for the heart (and your farts)
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
either will do the trick
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Its a Great Day to be a Mountaineer where ever you may be" Tony Caridi
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
by WVPiratesfan on Mar 18, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
broccoli is a huge gas catalyst for
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
me (sorry about the break, but something broke as I was typing)
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
exactly...
A Mighty Wind
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
...or, you could...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7V406XfAaI
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Mar 19, 2010 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions
quite a comeback album
those guys look familiar…
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
I give it an "A"....
as in Ambush.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Mar 17, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thomas Morland?
I think someone spiked the Kool-Aid that day.
"I suppose if I had said television was more popular than Jesus, I would have gotten away with it." --J.O.L.
I’d like to see Morstead attempt a drop kick FG in preseason. Based on the lift his kickoffs get, I think he could nail one with a little practice on gauging the bounce.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
try to nail that m-f-ing fleur de lis
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
He has been
practicing the drop kicks. I read it in a story earlier in the season when he was doing an interview. He really wants to try one out and I think that preseason is an awesome time to try it, unless Coach is saving it for another game winner for next years superbowl
Can you do that in open play?
I`ve not seen a drop kick in the NFL , it`s a big part of rugby. Would it be on the crazy play
page from SP`s playbook with Morestead in the back field taking a direct snap and …POW!!
Lets GEAUX SAINTS.......... ALL THE WAY!!!!
Thanks - just googled it.
Does seem the kind of thing SP would do somewhere along the stretch just to keep
DC`s guessing.
Lets GEAUX SAINTS.......... ALL THE WAY!!!!
good idea, SATCH
ding! rec’d it
voted for incomplete
need 4-5 years at least to grade a draft class
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
by HansDat on Mar 17, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad none of my comments appeared in the post
not sure if I was wildly irrational or calm and collected after the draft
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
Didn't have time to search through them all
I’m sure I could find some if I really looked. lol
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 17, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I checked your post-draft thread
I commented twice in the LOTR strand, and posted some funny youtubes of LOTR-related brain candy…nothing of substance about our draft picks – Ha!
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
and then on Dave's draft grade post
I commented on the Major League strand…again nothing of substance on the draft selections
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
on M-E's grading the graders post
I simply commented with praise for his work and rated it better than John DeShazier’s work. Is that actually praise, though?
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
there's a pattern to my post-draft commentary
yup…you guessed it – I must have been 420’d.
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
Haha
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I was pretty melo for last years draft.
I was pleased with our picks, although not going after Shon Greene in the 3rd kind of pissed me off. I’ve been looking for management to draft a stud 1st down back for the last 4 years. And he held great value in the 3rd.
What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing
Oh yeah, and I think a B (B+ if it was an option) grade sums up last years draft.
What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing

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