Justin Fargas Visiting Saints
Finally, some news to report; it's about time. WWLTV reports that Justin Fargas, formerly of the Oakland Raiders, is visiting the Saints and their offer is based on whether or not they're thinking of matching the Eagles offer for Mike Bell.
Personally, I love the move. He won't be anything more than a third running back; He's 30 years old but still has some gas left in the tank.
Running back Justin Fargas could possibly be the Saints first offseason acquisition.
The eighth-year pro was in New Orleans on Tuesday night, eating dinner with Saints officials at Emeril’s in the Warehouse District, a source confirmed to Eyewitness Sports.
The visit could be tied into whether the team decides to match the Philadelphia Eagles’ contract offer with Mike Bell, which was signed Tuesday. It was Bell’s second visit this offseason after the Saints tendered the running back at the lowest possible compensation.
New Orleans has seven days to match the Eagles’ offer sheet.
In seven seasons with the Oakland Raiders, Fargas rushed for 3,369 yards and 10 touchdowns on 827 carries. He fumbled 10 times, losing only four.
But Fargas missed the final two games of the 2009 season with a knee injury and the Raiders cut ties with him this offseason, citing his inability to pass a physical.
Fargas, though, disputes that and he has taken visits with the Browns and Eagles so far during the free agency period.
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Hell Why Not
Take the guy, he should be pretty cheap to sign. He is a quality back, nothing spectacular, but enough experience and drive to contribute in the current looks of a still “running back by committee” organization.
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
He has been very successful sharing carries with other backs
in his last four seasons he averages 750 yds with 4.0 avg plus 110 recieving with a 6.9 avg. Those are the only seasons where he has had significant playing time. He is much like Chester Taylor in the sense that he is a bit older but with the mileage of a back a few years his junior. As long as the knee issue isn’t an issue then the Saints would be making an upgrade at running back while also adding a veteran presence.
Now re-sign Sharper and address the defense on draft day
This is our year
by DaymanCometh on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Fargas was released after failing his physical. He’s got pretty good size, I’d just rather a bigger, younger, more versatile back … one that could conceivably play H-Back and replace Heath Evans at FB, when his contract is up this time next year.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
As much as it pains me to say no to the son of Huggy Bear … no.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
WTB moar fullbacks!
A young guy who could learn from Evans would be awesome. Wendy’s did alright filling in at fullback last year, but having another actual fullback would be good. Would hate to see evans go down again, but it would be nice to have a real backup fullback. This is asking alot though as i dont believe most people find fullbacks as awesome as i do lol. our running game wasnt the same without evans,some insurance at that postion would be epic.
He wouldn't count as a UFA pick seeing how he was released by the Raiders
I don’t see the problem with signing him, he’s not a primary running back. He probably won’t slip on 3rd and goal in the Super Bowl game at the end of the 2nd quarter like Bell did.
“WHAT KINDA SHOES YOU GOT?”
Draft Toby Gerhart
And if we miss on him, wait until the first round of cuts and pick up one of the dozens of out-of-work, third-team running backs who are just as good as Fargas.
Really: this is not yet a problem. Why worry about it?
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by MtnExile on Mar 17, 2010 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Gerhart and PT
would be shweeettttt. I also agree we should wait and see whats out there come roster cutting time.
Agreed on all counts. Bell to the Eagles probably means P.J. Hill headed back to the practice squad soon. Grab him off waivers for a fraction of the cost. We’re no worse off.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
PJ Hill is now a redskin
"I have seen women walk right past a TV set with a football game on and - this always amazes me - not stop to watch, even if the TV is showing replays of what we call a "good hit," which is a tackle that causes at least one major internal organ to actually fly out of a player's body."
Ahh. Well, whatever falls between the sofa cushions. I was just throwing out a familiar name.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
othello henderson?
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
ray zellars?
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
derek brown?
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
Would love Gerhart
But he may be gone by the time we’re done drafting defence…
If we get Detroit’s 3rd round pick for Hargrove, I could see them drafting Gerhart at the end of the 2nd. You could still address the defense a few picks later and really not lose anything outside of having to replace a part-time DT at some point (not necessarily in the draft).
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
has hargrove been given an offer?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
He was tendered at the 3rd round level
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 17, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
by the lions, i mean
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 17, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh…
How about bringing in something we NEED?
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
that is…
I hate questioning Payton/Loomis… but why bring in someone where we already have 3, if we loose the one that might leave…
How about a DE? Or an LB? (whichever one you’re not gonna draft at 32.)
((My comments are just my frustration with the lack of activity… I really do have faith in those guys… But, how about throwing us a glimmer of hope that we’re going to improve the DEFENSE.)
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
Agreed. The temporary void at RB3 is something that’s bound to work itself out. Either in the draft or via table scraps, as M-E said.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
couldn't agree more
I have no problem with PT, Bush and Hamilton next season.
Bell had very few touches in games where PT played last year.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 17, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say they don’t want to bring in anybody because they don’t see anybody who’s awesome enough to bother bringing in at this point.
And they also want to keep their options open for the draft. After they know who they got there, then they’ll know who they want to try to get later.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
But by then, it’ll be too late.
It’s almost already too late.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
Fall and hit your head again next season
Please. I’ll fall and hit MY head too, if that’s what it takes to get another Lombardi.
"I suppose if I had said television was more popular than Jesus, I would have gotten away with it." --J.O.L.
Take one for the team, eh?
…a concussion, that is!
Me too!
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Mar 17, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
too late to pick up a good free agent… for a class that started off very limited… now many are taken.
If we wait until after the draft to figure out what we’re going to do at key positions, it’ll likely be too late to get good/adequate replacements, much less upgrades.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
Fargas is a decent back
but there will likely be better, (younger, cheaper and more versatile) options available later on in the year.
Some people are like slinkies. They don't really serve a purpose but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Fargas would fit
You can’t argue with adding more depth without wasting a draft pick on it. Sure, Fargas has his proven limitations, but he’s also proven to be healthy over the past few seasons (more than you can say about PT, Bell, or Reggie) and he’s not looking for a whole lot of money.
Also, I disagree that the Saints should use a high draft pick on a RB. Look at where the Saints’ RBs have come from: PT and Hamilton were undrafted; Bell was signed after he was cut by Denver; Reggie is a special case. It’s not Payton/Loomis’s style to take a RB in the draft. I’d honestly rather see the Saints draft a QB to back up Brees (specifically, Max Hall from BYU, who comes in a similar package to Brees and will be available late) and then focus on upgrading the defense and O-line. Maybe take a fullback if there’s a good one out there.
I think they're saying he was signed to a 1 year tender
I don’t think it means the Saints have matched the Eagles’ offer yet. Plus, the source here is Yahoo Sports, so nuff said.
Does the visit by Fargas mean that the Saints have already made up their minds to NOT keep Bell? I think it may be a strong indicator.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
Scratch that
I meant to say he was offered a 1 year tender. I think Yahoo is just plain wrong on the signing part.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
Fargas' knee
I started out loving this as a possibility, then I noticed he was cut due to not being able to pass a physical following a knee injury. That’s a 30 year old back with a knee injury. So now I’m saying no.
Draft a younger back. Failing that, pick up a couple late rounders or undrafted free agents and see what comes out in the wash.
I remember when the Saints signed a QB that had been cut after an injury.
What was his name again? Oh yeah. That Drew Brees guy. Some of you may have heard of him.
I kinda sorta remember him. Wasn’t he 27 years old at the time? That’s a kindergartener in QB years. By comparison, Fargas is a 55 year old GED student attending Delgado.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Mar 17, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
haha
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
not a huge fan of this pickup if it works out
I don’t really see Fargas as an upgrade over what we have at this point, even without Bell, and if we’re looking to add another back to the mix I’d rather it be a young promising player. If he does comes, he better come cheap. If they end up paying him what Bell is making I won’t be happy.
I really think
we don’t even need another RB even if we let Bell go. Hamilton proved to be just as good a runner as Bell and he’s young with a lot of upside in my opinion. We need another true FB in my opinion as far as offense goes. Evans is a key part of our running game and can catch the ball out of the backfield as well. If we can draft or sign a you versatile FB with the potential to be as good as Evans I say pick him up.
Get ready to FEEL DAT BREES!!!
by born in areacode 318 on Mar 17, 2010 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We need one for the taxi squad and possibly a fourth for the active roster
… if we are still into that committee mode
Bring the wood
RB is one position I believe we can get off the scrap heap… late round draft, after the draft, FA’s after the draft.
With our line and existing stable of RB’s, if you can hold onto a ball and survive a few hits and gain a few yards, you’ll be fine.
unlike… positions like LB and DE, which require more skill/awareness/instincts to be effective.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
I wonder whatever became of Alley Broussard. I was hoping they’d bring him into training camp last year as a UFA. To the best of my knowledge, he has yet to be given an opportunity with anyone. I know he screwed up his knee at LSU, but he bounced back to put up some impressive numbers at Missouri Southern.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
As opposed to
and Unidentified Flying Agent?
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by Dave Cariello on Mar 17, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea if there is an “official” abbreviation for that, but usually I make that as UDFA to make it obviously different from “unrestricted”. I’ve also used CFA for “college”.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
What about Hoover from Carolina as FB?
good FB. We could use a backup to heath evans considering we had the baconator and Strief filling in last season.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 17, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
anything calling for more fullbacks get rec’d by me lol. bring back the power I formation i say!!!! Alright maybe im overdoing it a little…but yes a young fullback for Evans to teach would be awesome. Doesnt really need to be able to catch to be a winner to me…i just wanna be able to hear him lighting up silly linebackers.
He's from Oakland.
I don’t think I trust any player that old playing for Oakland with such a limited role. Any player from Oakland is practically on college level. We might as well get someone from the draft that doesn’t have a bum knee and too many years.
A player from the Raiders has gotta be hungry for success
I’m thinking Fargas would be ecstatic about playing for a winning team with good locker room chemistry for a change. He would have to know that his window for personal success is closing fast and so would bring his very best to the new club. I’d rather keep Bell over him, but I won’t be upset if they do sign him, as long as it’s to a reasonable dollar amount.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
it has to be more difficult at oakland as an rb
when teams are stacking the box, just begging jamarcus to throw.
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by DrewBreesManCrush on Mar 17, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if we didn't show interest in LT or Westbrook or any of the other better FA RBs
why sign Fargas? Seems pointless to me
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Fargas
Wouldn’t be a bad pickup. Bell really wasn’t all that great last year, even in a limited role he declined severely down the stretch and always seemed to be injured. Not to mention his balance issues. I was once a big fan of Bell, but I don’t see why we can’t add a well proven veteran to do the same thing that Bell does, only more consistently. Anyway, there’s no guarantee Fargas would even make it past final cuts. The team is really high on Lynell Hamilton who could eventually be our H-back/fullback because of his size, running, and catching abilities, not to mention he’s an absolute ace on special teams. Bell offers less value than Hamilton, and Fargas excels in rotation. So really, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal should either way because Hamilton is bound to see more playing time next year and probably take the role of 3rd down, short yardage back.
I wouldn't mind getting half the "love" that the Saints are willing to give Sharper...
Scott
lets see how far down in the draft he falls after his season ending injury. I know that sounds cold but he is a good running back. Sure would love to see him in black and gold. And jones
OldFartFan
Just say No
We can probably do better by further developing the RB’s we already have AND building thriugh the draft.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
I'm not willing
to use a draft pick on a running back. We don’t need anyone out of the draft, unless we get an athletic H-back to eventually replace Heath Evans. There’s really too many other needs on the defense, and the offensive line to go along with it. I think the plan will probably be to look in the early rounds for defensive players, likely pass rushers, and in the later rounds find a lineman and the usual 7th round gem. Loomis and Payton don’t really feel like they need to draft running backs anyway. The last RB they drafted was Antonio Pittman, and that was a wasted pick considering he’s not even in the league and he was beaten out by undrafted rookie FA Pierre Thomas. So, the only RB the Saints really would even take a shot at would be C.J. Spiller if he somehow fell to us, as a value pick of course. Other than that, according to history, I really don’t think we’ll draft a running back.
I wouldn't mind getting half the "love" that the Saints are willing to give Sharper...
According to history, they haven’t drafted a DE since Rob Ninkovich and have yet to draft an OLB since Sean Payton took over. Prior to Morstead, they hadn’t drafted a punter since Russell Erxleben. What you’re saying truly means nothing.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
What you’re saying truly means nothing.
It took Sean Payton class balls to type that. True or not.
Breathe the air we have blown you.
Balls?
I didn’t realize it took balls to type something to a complete stranger on a football blog? No need to kiss up to him, now. I will concur with CP’s reasoning that the history thing may mean nothing at all, but think also about the position of RB. Does it really need to be upgraded? No, it doesn’t. Does DE and LB need to be upgraded? Yes, Loomis himself said that.
I wouldn't mind getting half the "love" that the Saints are willing to give Sharper...
From a short yardage standpoint, I’d say it definitely needs to be upgraded. Granted, that could just as easily be based on shortcomings in the OL, but since we don’t have a true power back — something teams with excellent OLs still covet — why not go that route? Speed and elusiveness will only get you so far. On top of which, Heath Evans is a journeyman 31 year old coming off a season ending injury. Sorry if I’m not completely confident in this bunch, in any given situation.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
You’re also assuming Thomas and/or Bell will be back. Are you comfortable with a Bush/Hamilton rotation? Because that’s all we’re guaranteed, at this point. Further, which one of these backs — including Thomas and Bell — weren’t on the roster this time last year, when Loomis was reportedly chomping at the bit for a shot at Beanie Wells? I think there’s a need for improvement whether Bell stays or goes and I honestly believe the upper brass does, too.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Thomas
will be back. Jeff Duncan has reported that the Saints have been trying to work out a long term extension. I’m not worried about losing him because we won’t.
I wouldn't mind getting half the "love" that the Saints are willing to give Sharper...
Jeff Duncan also reported that Scott Fujita would be back and Derrick Brooks would be signed. But yeah, I feel better about this particular hunch, too.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I hear the Saints are also looking to nail down a deal with their current starting QB
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
No, huh? I thought they were dissatisfied with his lack of production in the offense. Just one Lombardi Trophy in four seasons? My grandpa could earn that with his teeth in a jar.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
see? this is breaking news - take nothing for granted until someone @ the T-P/nola.com weighs in on it
"I have all of the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don't have all the money in the world for Darren Sharper." Mickey Loomis
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Saints’ visit with RB Justin Fargas is completed. No word on any contract offer. Also, team has no comment on its plans for RFA Mike Bell.
Breathe the air we have blown you.
dont be dum ok
we’re not gonna sign Vargas hes just FISITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
running back
We need a RB who can slash and cut- sign O.J. Simpson.
When Reggie is cutting he ain’t slicing. When he’s slicing he ain’t cutting.
If Vargas doesn’t quit- Orenthal Juice will fit- or have one if you let him out to retrieve his gear from those interlopers trying to get illustrations for Bresus’ book.
Draft Tebow- he’ll be a GET-BACK. Every time he tries to get into the game- Peyton will say get back on the bench.
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LeGarrette Blount-RB- Player Mar. 18 – 7:42 pm et
Oregon RB LeGarrette Blount posted forty times of 4.53 and 4.55 at the Ducks’ pro day workout Thursday. Blount more than redeemed himself after a miscommunication led many scouts to believe he skipped out on Oregon’s first pro day last week. At 238 pounds, his forty times are impressive — down a full two-tenths from his marks at Indy. He could tempt teams into selecting him in the mid rounds as a power back.
Ten million cigarettes burning every day
And Billy's still doing fine
probably not, but he was THAT guy, I didn't realize that; probably not Saints material
After the opening game of the 2009 season, Blount was suspended again, after punching an opponent and angrily confronting fans immediately after the nationally televised season-opening loss.
Ten million cigarettes burning every day
And Billy's still doing fine
Oh yeah, now I remember him. Wasn’t he suspended for the entire season?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

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