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Fujita's Departure Means Super Bowl Party Over; Free Agency Party Just Getting Started

I was busy enjoying my day off yesterday so I was late to the Scott Fujita pity party. Since I didn't really have time to weigh in on the situation then, I'd like to take a few moments now to share my feelings. 

I think it sucks.

Not because I think the defense just lost a great player that will be difficult to replace. For all the reasons I'm upset about seeing Fujita leave, that's probably the least important and most debatable. But more because of the simple fact that he just seemed like a really good guy. It wasn't just talent that carried the Saints to a Super Bowl championship; it was also character and Scott Fujita was a big part of that. Not many players would have the courage to speak out on issues like gay marriage. Whether you agree with his stance on the subject or not, you've got to respect his bravery for saying it and defend to the death his right to say it.

Star-divide

This move also signals the unofficial start of the 2010 off-season for the Saints and brings the realization for its fans that next season is already upon us. The NFL's Circle of Life straightens for no one, not even Who Dat Nation or Scott Fujita. Super Bowl XLIV and the 2009 season are quickly becoming just a memory, something to be talked about in fond remembrance. Fujita's departure represents the first step in truly distancing that memory. And that's just sad. But I offer a sincere thank you to Scott Fujita for his service. I'm glad he was able to earn a ring with the Saints here in New Orleans. It's just a shame he won't be here to earn another one. 

Like everything in life, there is a positive side to this story. The good  news in all of this is that the Saints can now start taking a look at signing an unrestricted free agent and maybe a pretty decent one at that. Since Fujita's deal with the Browns was worth $14 million over three years, the Saints can sign someone in the same range. Possibly an outside linebacker or maybe a defensive lineman? I will leave that for all of you to discuss. It also opens up the strong possibility that the Saints attempt to upgrade Fujita's position via their first round draft pick. 

One more free agency note not related to Scott Fujita but rather Darren Sharper. Like last off-season, it appears Sharper isn't getting as much attention on the market as he might have thought. Somewhat surprising actually, though perhaps teams view him as a system player. If he doesn't attract any suitors, at least not at the level the Saints are willing to pay him, and winds up staying in New Orleans but for significantly less than if the team had tendered or tagged him, we've got to applaud the front office for their brilliant cheapskatery. 

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Couldn't vote. Still bummed about Scott.

Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!

I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.

by Just 'Nother Day on Mar 8, 2010 6:34 AM CST reply actions  

I just have this horrible feeling

That the front office is too busy fellating each other and having a good ole fashioned back-slapping part: Far too engrossed in partying, as opposed to, y’know, actually doing their job and keeping our dearly loved team as intact as possible.

Losing Fujita hurts bad for me – I have such great respect for the guy. Plus, it doesn’t hurt that he’s a damn fine football player.

"There are those that make it happen, those that watch it happen, and those that stand around and wonder what the hell happened." -- Drew Brees

by J of the F on Mar 8, 2010 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

HOW CAN THE SAINTS DO THIS?! He won the SUPER BOWL! He looks more like John Krasinski than ANYONE ELSE ON THE TEAM! First Simoneau, then this guy. It’s genocide, I tell ya.

</senseless overreaction mode>

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Mar 8, 2010 7:23 AM CST reply actions  

lol he DOES look like John K!

And his wife is HOT! What will NO have to look at? Then again, John K’s lady isn’t so bad looking herself…Wait? Where am I going with this?

Back to bed for me.

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

And, it's not all bad, either.

The Saints get $14 million more to play with, and they can now play the UFA field. Or…they can use the money to lock up PT and Sharper, if they wish, and find Fuji’s replacement through the draft or free agency.

You had to think that you were going to lose some people…the law of averages will catch up ultimately.

by Anthony_JK on Mar 8, 2010 7:51 AM CST reply actions  

it only hurts a little bit

don’t get me wrong- i liked fujita as a saint because of his personality, involvement with the community, etc. – but he was probably the weakest of our LB corps (i don’t want to start the whole defense of shanle thing again, so just take it from an injury/productivity standpoint if need be). still a surprise though.

and i think it’s most surprising because fujita doesn’t seem like a money-motivated kind of guy (see: donating playoff earnings to charity), yet he said he chose to sign with the browns because the Saints didn’t “value” him as much – which translates into “they didn’t want to pay me enough.” it’s not like the 3 year, $14 mil contract cleveland gave him could’ve been astronomically more than the Saints’ offer, could it? why wouldn’t he take a few million less to stay somewhere (a) that isn’t god-awful, both as a city and a franchise (sorry, clevelanders) and (b) where he was adored, respected, part of the community, etc.?

oh well- drafting well is more important than ever now.

by jful on Mar 8, 2010 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

Do you think Sharper is going to appreciate brilliant cheapskatery?

He may have to come back, but I don’t think he’ll like being embarrassed in public. I’m not saying he didn’t bring it on himself, because that’s not the point. The point is: will it affect his play?

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 8:12 AM CST reply actions  

If it affects his play

than Sharper is a bigger baby than I thought and I lose a lot of respect for him.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Sharper is a professional athlete...

And he’s in his mid-30’s. He has to expect this type of thing. I doubt it’ll affect anything except maybe his wallet.

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

What are they thinking

Now they have two holes to fill.
One at DE and one at LB.

I really hope they know what they are doing.

This move scares me.

by jeremysherwin on Mar 8, 2010 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Nope

Grant had to go.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 8, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

"Not many players would have the courage to speak out on issues like gay marriage."

This is exactly the thing that made me like him less. I don’t like m*****f***ers preaching to me unless I go to see them in church. And he certainly could have used a little more discretion in the most Catholic city in the country.

Drew Brees is a conservative, but he’s very discreet about his politics and goes out of his way to say nice things about Obama and make sure that he doesn’t alienate half of his fan base. Fujita would have been well advised to do the same.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 8, 2010 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

unless I go to see them in church

Southern man, better keep your head. Don’t forget what your good book said.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

he’s very discreet about his politics

If the above is true, then how do you know this…

Drew Brees is a conservative

By the way, I’m going to assume you missed Brees’ comments about Guantanomo Very discreet.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Well . . .

. . . no, I saw his comments about Guantanamo, and I also know that he donated to Fred Thompson (so did Dean Koontz).

But being asked about his trip to Guantanamo in a small market radio interview and describing his trip and what he saw is not the same thing as blathering garden variety leftist opinions to every open microphone within voice range, like Fujita did.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 8, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

To be fair

Drew did the same thing as Fujita. And his opinions are pretty much just as “garden variety” as Fujita’s are…they’re just the opposite garden.

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

And isn’t it amazing how people who agree with Drew have no problem “tolerating” his opinions… and people who agree with Fujita have no problem “tolerating” his opinions… but asking them to tolerate the other side is like asking them to cut off their own hand.

Nobody is tolerant. Nobody. And the sooner two-faced morons quit using that pious mantra and then being hypocritical turds about it, the better.

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by FriarBob on Mar 8, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

when does the season start

and the offseason end?

I’ll be back to visit then.

Thanks to everyone for a Super-Bowl-win-buzz-killing discussion.

"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"

by MobileSaint on Mar 8, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Most people are inclined to believe their opinions are the correct ones and any others that don’t mesh with their preconditioned world view are wrong. Too bad the concepts of self analysis and self reflection are totally alien to far too many people. An open mind is the true vessel to enlightenment.

Uh oh! That sounded like some of that commie Buddhism! I’m……melting……what a world…..what a world….ahhhhh.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 8, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

If you’re talking about Brees’s Gitmo spiel, I tolerated his opinion on that. Tolerating something and agreeing with something aren’t one and the same.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Mar 8, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

OK, so sue me for a slight overstatement. 99.9999% of society is not truly tolerant.

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by FriarBob on Mar 8, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps I should rephrase…

Tolerance does not mean you have to agree, but you have to admit they have the right to their opinion and not treat them like they are intolerant for not agreeing with you. Quite a few of the most vocal “pushers” of tolerance are exactly this type of two-faced bastard.

Even among those who aren’t “pushers” of the philosophy, very few people truly do it. I’ll give credit that many TRY. But few truly succeed.

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by FriarBob on Mar 8, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

but you have to admit they have the right to their opinion and not treat them like they are intolerant for not agreeing with you.

There are not two equally valid sides to every argument. Often one is right and the other is wrong.

Mangini. Mangini. Mangini. MANGINI.
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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

This thread is starting to remind me of my college philosophy class

Don’t make me go all Kierkegaard on your asses. :-)

“That which does not kill us, makes us stronger”—Nietzsche
I mostly remember this from the opening of Conan the Barbarian. Excellent movie.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 8, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

IMDB =6.8 Never seen it.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I used to love Kierkegaard

Now I realize he was really kind of a squish. : p

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 8, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with that. I’m just saying that I would never bash Fujita and/or Brees and/or anyone based on their beliefs, whether I agree with them or not. I have a personal opinion on most topics and know that I wouldn’t appreciate being looked down upon because of them. Now, if something is completely out of left field, like someone walking into my office and stating that everyone in the warehouse is worthless and deserves to be killed, that’s a different. Civil Obedience 101 is always going to override Joe Blow’s POV.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Mar 8, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn’t tolerate it. I was soured. Still am.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Kinda like how I’ve always insisted nobody is objective, either. And the sooner journalists quit pretending to be “objective” while bloggers are not, the better.

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

tweet, just for the record

jeffduncantp

It’s my job. Journalists must be objective. Without it, you have no credibility @MathiusP @stainemj Can you explain why you can’t be a fan?

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

dr. zin.....

while the big easy is very catholic, like the catholic church, it’s all so very gay.

by r c a on Mar 8, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

oooooooh....

ZING!

At least the priests are discreet ;)

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

That's Tough, But Fair

N.O. does have quite the rainbow flag community (particularly between St. Louis st. and Franklin ave.) While I understand that the rate of pedophilia is actually less among Catholic clergy than the general population, I take your point. (Although, if I were gay—and of course, I AM—I’d be a little upset that you equated pedophiles and homosexuals).

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 8, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny, you don’t type gay.

This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin'

by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, You Caught Me

Not gay, but willing to learn.

Anyway, how do gays type? Substitute ‘th’ for all of the s’s? Suspend the pinkies in mid-air? Is there some indicative font or something?

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on Mar 8, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I laid out an example........

but it disappeared :( I’m thinking you would just use a lot of esses….

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by etid5353 on Mar 9, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

if you arent bi

youre missing out on half the action

by maybetoday on Mar 8, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Fajita

I liked the guy but his skills where diminishing over time. He is a great ambasador to the city and the team but we have to get younger and more athletic. The Browns overpaid by leaps and bounds for him. Hey I would leave to if I got the upfront money that Fajita recieved. Good luck to him and his family and thanks for the contributions to the Saints and New orleans!

by IBLEEDBLACKANDGOLD on Mar 8, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

We should all feel sorry for Fujita.

After all, he’s leaving New Orleans for CLEVELAND!

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."

by SaintShark on Mar 8, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Good, Bad, Ugly

  Parting gift to coastal restoration says a lot to me. No so long-suckers. He must know Cleaveland is no Valhalla, but a man does for his family, a drilling rig in a god-forsaken swamp or Cleaveland, I can relate. Fujita conducted himeself with class, and, take it or leave it, courage as a commuity member and as has been noted is a good football player who will be hard to replace. Saint’s fans if anyone anywhere should know a Super Bowl season is lightning in a bottle, and next year will be it’s own situation. Saw a mock draft the other day with the Saints picking up Carlos Hernandez in the first round, now that is a good idea. Need a veteran LB, already have veteran TEs.

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" -Bob Marley

by PanheadCatahoula on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

While I usually hate anything Bill Simmons writes

He did say one smart thing once. “After your team wins a championship, they immediately get a five-year grace period: You can’t complain about anything that happens with your team (trades, draft picks, salary-cap cuts, coaching moves) for five years. There are no exceptions”

And it happens every time a team wins the SB that teams free agents get signed somewhere else. Its just buisness. So I say good for you Scott. Make your money. Cause you and I know life is going to suck in Clevland nexxt year

by andyp111 on Mar 8, 2010 9:18 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Anytime I see Fujita's name...

I don’t know whether I want Chili’s, or some Japanese food. Either way, the man’s last name makes me damn hungry. Sucks for the Saints that he’s gone, but he might just help the Browns win 2 or 3 games next year.

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

lol... it's funny you say that.

I used to play Madden a bunch, and traded for him in my “franchise”.

And I changed his name, in the game, to Chicken Fajita.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, fajitas…..

Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!

by Dan Kelly on Mar 8, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice post. Rec’d it.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Mar 8, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Well stated

But I assume Dave knew where this would go when he pulled Fujita’s “courage” into this. And it only serves to point out that even within a tight-knit group like Saints fans, there are still serious differences on important issues. Expecting a football team to “bring us all together” and make us forget those differences is pretty naive.

I’m all in favor of getting back to football, if everyone else is on board.

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m DEFINITELY in favor of going back to football. Problem is we still don’t have much to talk about with our team still making no moves…

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by FriarBob on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

+1000

"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"

by MobileSaint on Mar 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m all in favor of getting back to football,

I should think so. The hole!

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Come on out now, Stuart

You’ve gone deep enough.

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

My shoes are clean, M-E. Take a look at yours.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

and by the way

Nobody likes Dolly Parton around here? Where’s Hans? He’s the only one who really gets me.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not wearing any

…we allus go barefoot down here. We’s just ign’rant.

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Thought that was South Carolina.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, M-E. We’re required to arrive at a consensus on the gay marriage issue, prior to resuming football discussions. The moose out front should have told you.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Mar 8, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Love the movie references.

R.I.P. John Candy.

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by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 8, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

BOOM! rec'd ya!

I agree with everything but your Gitmo stance. But, like you say, everyone is entitled to their beliefs and no one ever said we should all agree on everything all the time. What a boring world it would be if we did. I’m all for getting back to discussing football.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 8, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

And....

…thats’s a Rec.

Nah, that's just some dust in my eye....

by FrenchFreak on Mar 8, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Cause Scientology is just plain creepy…If we were to vote on a witchhunt, my vote would be cast to go after those guys…

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

It’s the Big Love of the 20th century.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, you've got me there.

I can’t offer any defense for Scientology. I have yet to find any evidence rooted in fact that may support their belief, so I just stay away.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Mar 8, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I just noticed your sig line

I love it…Being a Colts fan, I wish our old coach knew when to STFU. A Dungy guarantee is pretty much a nail in the coffin for the team he’s guaranteeing will win…

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Of course Scientologists are entitled to their beliefs

So are Nazis. And animal rights activists. And jihadis. And every other wack-job in the world. It’s called “freedom of conscience.”

Acting on those beliefs can be a different thing, however.

"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.." --J.O.L.

by MtnExile on Mar 8, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Some of the people can be all right part of the time. And all of the people can part right some of the time. But, all the people can’t be all right all of the time. I think Abraham Lincoln said that.

More often than not, we can’t come to a consensus regarding the needs of a football team that just won a championship. As that be the case, it would probably be a good idea to leave debates regarding politics and the true meaning of life to a different forum. One of the best things about sports is it’s ability to unite people of different backgrounds and beliefs in the support of a common goal and celebration of achieving that goal.

by Drew-Dat on Mar 8, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I Forgot To Mention

The other thing that has made each memebr of the team such a heroic group is the fact that they have all been so instrumental and support of the rebuilding of New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast region. They have all spent a lot of money out of their own pockets to help rebuild the area, as well as actually go out and help clean up and rebuild.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Mar 8, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

lol only on a sports blog...

I love the “civil/human/moral rights” open thread this has become. Can anyone tell me if there’s a right-wing conspiracy as to why I can’t find wire coat hangers at Wal-Mart anymore??

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

No… wire… hangers. What’s wire hangers doing in this closet when I told you: no wire hangers EVER? I work and work ‘till I’m half-dead, and I hear people saying, “She’s getting old.” And what do I get? A daughter… who cares as much about the beautiful dresses I give her… as she cares about me. What’s wire hangers doing in this closet? Answer me. I buy you beautiful dresses, and you treat them like they were some dishrag. You do. Three hundred dollar dress on a wire hanger. We’ll see how many you’ve got if they’re hidden somewhere. We’ll see… we’ll see. Get out of that bed. All of this is coming out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. You’ve got any more? We’re gonna see how many wire hangers you’ve got in your closet. Wire hangers, why? Why? Christina, get out of that bed. Get out of that bed. You live in the most beautiful house in Brentwood and you don’t care if your clothes are stretched out from wire hangers. And your room looks like some two-dollar-a-week furnished room in some two-bit back street town in Okalahoma. Get up. Get up. Clean up this mess.

by andyp111 on Mar 8, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

wow

Love the eyebrows.

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I heard he’s gay.

This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin'

by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe he should be thrown in Gitmo...

You know, before he influences the children. Now, who wants to watch some men’s figure skating???

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It's funny...

this was what I originally wrote last night in this post…

Whether you agree with his stance on the subject or not (and this will not be the post for you to tell us), you’ve got to respect his bravery for saying it

But – and this shows my naivete – I didn’t want to draw attention to this point because it was nowhere near the most important aspect of this post and I thought I could share my opinion and we could move along. I was wrong. I let my paternalistic instincts be overruled.

I would like to thank a_suitable_case_for_treatment for being “that guy” and sharing his opinion on non-football related matters, an opinion which nobody wants to hear here, and ruining this thread. You’re awesome.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

I'm awesome too

Where’s the comment where I said “I’m not going to get into this”, did that get deleted? Fair enough.

Group hug.

This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin'

by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

dead wrong

First off, you broached the subject. You brought up a very touchy issue in a football post on a football blog. You started this ball rolling. “that guy” is you. A suitable case merely responded to the subject matter you raised. If you didn’t want to draw attention to this point since it wasn’t the salient issue, then don’t. bring. it. up. It’s that simple.

if you’re going to say it and bring up the sacred first amendment, then someone is free to say how they feel about it as well. You can say something and we can argue about it, or agree about it. Fujita can make a stand on something and everyone is free to praise him or condemn him. That’s how this works Saintsational. freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from talk you, or I, don’t like or agree with. Moreover, it doesn’t mean freedom from criticism or someone else exercising the same right.

Furthermore, yes, this isn’t the street corner, it’s yall’s blog. It’s yours to run as you (and your masters at SBnation) see fit. So you do have some control over what is said and who is said it. But if you’re going to bring polarizing political topics into the discussion be prepared to:
-learn to deal with that discourse in a adult manner, free of impartiality and whining (moderators and commentators).
-lose your audience, myself included, who will find their info at nola.com or somewhere else where my football is not clouded the least bit by political or social problems. I come here for the Saints. That’s it. When I come here, I could give one flip about any other issue. Don’t mess that up for me. This is a favorite of mine.

by LSUJOSHUA on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

you're new here and without all the facts, so I'll go easy

You weren’t here when I did MORE than broach this subject…

http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2009/9/30/1061647/scott-fujita-boldly-supports-same

…because I wanted to have this discourse. It went fairly well, in my opinion, and actually got us here at CSC a good bit of praise around the internet. That was the time and place – a post title “Scott Fujita Boldly Supports Same Sex Marriage” – for any talk about this issue.

Also, if you are a fervent reader of CSC, you would know that I am VERY lax with what I let you guys say. Some would probably argue TOO much so. Which is why I let the initial comment stand for a while. But when it leads to idiotic talk regarding Che Guevera, which has absolutely nothing to do with ANYTHING, it’s been taken way too far off subject.

who will find their info at nola.com or somewhere else where my football is not clouded the least bit by political or social problems

Oh gosh, please tell me that was supposed to be in the sarcasm font. Have you read the comments?

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

you're an F'ing fascist, saintsational

and what’s wrong with the nola.com comments? just because most of them are not written by literate, english-speaking human beings doesn’t mean you should doubt how un-cloudy they are. way less obfuscated by actual issues or events. those comment-makers are some of the most wholesome, salt-of-the-earth people that (somehow) have access to computers and want to share their insights about the world. like creed thoughts.

by jful on Mar 8, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that time my dad thought my brother sassed him when he really didn’t so Dad beat his ass with a switch. That was cool.

This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin'

by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

For what little it's worth, Saintsational....

This is a forum about Saints football. If the Saints drafted Tim Tebow, I’m pretty sure there would be posters dying to comment on his politics more than his 40-yard dash time.

I’m personally in Fujita’s camp. But I try to keep my politics and my football separate. If a Saints player whom I politically disagree with tackles a[n] [opposing team’s] player whom I politically agree with, I’m cheering.

I don’t look to football players to validate my politics.

In the immortal words of Socrates, "I drank what?"

by SaintSooner on Mar 9, 2010 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Don’t mess that up for me. This is a favorite of mine.

I’m sensing a challenge…

This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin'

by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

by the way

I’m bringing back some of the comments, and only leaving out the ones pertaining to Che. Those are the ones that really have nothing to do with this topic.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Stay away from hot-button topics like race, religion and politics unless it is inherently related to the Saints.

I’d say 90% of this whole article goes against that, from the original post down through most of the comments. Sure, Fujita’s feelings are directly related to the Saints (or at least a former one) but anytime you bring up gay marriage, abortion, human rights, politics, religion – feathers will get ruffled.

mmmm….ruffles.

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

90% of the whole article

I am assuming you are including all of the comments when you say this. There is no way you could possibly think that 90% of what I wrote goes against that rule.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Word!

My bad :)

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as I'll miss Scott Fujita, I remember these facts

He has been hampered by injuries and turns 31 this year. He felt that he could still play at a high enough level for what the Browns were willing to give him and the Saints did not. I have no doubt that Loomis tried to retain Fujita, but Fujita wanted more than the Saints were willing to give him. We have a lot of free agents to to deal with and there was no way that we could retain them all. This is a business first and foremost and Fujita didn’t air out his problems with money in the media much like Darren Sharper has. I wish Scott the best in his future endeavors.

I don’t care about Fujita’s political views except to say that he has every right to have them. What I did care about is that he was a good presence in the clubhouse and a hard worker. Cleveland could have done a lot worse when shoring up their defense and Fujita still has something left in the tank. With what the Saints have on the table, Loomis either couldn’t afford to give Fujita that much or he wasn’t willing. We’ll never know unless they talk and knowing Fujita, that’s not going to happen.

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by Ace Venom on Mar 8, 2010 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

What he's really going to miss

is a good meal and good music. I mean Cleveland? Hope he keeps a crib down in the easy. As long as Greg Williams stays put I’m cool with all of it. Like somebody said up there, we got more money to play with, so let’s go get a stud. Who Dat, I don’t know yet but a Who Dat stud fa sho!

by BigTMill on Mar 8, 2010 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

All these comments show

the correctness of the title: The Super Bowl Party is Over.

 That’s a wrap.

 Yes. I’m back already.

"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"

by MobileSaint on Mar 8, 2010 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

welcome back

I missed you.

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by Dave Cariello on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks saintsational

that whole hour and a half away gave me time to reflect on this blog and my place in it.

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by MobileSaint on Mar 8, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry to see Fujita go

but, I was ready to have him replaced as a starter. I was hoping that he’d be back as a veteran backup, providing leadership and an occasional Peyton Manning taunt. I do think this makes signing Sharper more important from a leadership perspective than from a football one.

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by SaintBevo on Mar 8, 2010 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

tweet

 drewbrees

We lost a great player, person, and leader today in free agency. Scott Fujita signed with the Browns. He will be missed

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by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

He's a hero

For giving his SuperBowl paycheck to charity. Before he left for Cleveland, he donated most of his SB check to local charities. One in particular that i feel strongly about, coastal restoration. Idk how y’all all feel about that, but I live close to the coast and I thank Fujita for taking the initiative on this matter. And it was brave of him to talk about gay marriage because he is still getting backlash today for it. In my opinion, life is short and who am I to say you can’t be happy. If you happen to be gay and you want to get married, who am I to stop you? It’s your decision and really doesn’t affect me in any way.

PS Can’t wait for next season and we can get away from the political debate. But since it was brought up, I thought I would give my 2 cents

by mknkachow on Mar 8, 2010 6:45 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

well said

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by etid5353 on Mar 8, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

This has got to be the worst thread in the history of this blog

It’s a sad day for CSC.
I wish I had never read it.
Just delete the whole thing.
I’m embarrassed for us all.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 8, 2010 7:36 PM CST reply actions  

Shut up and kiss me.

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by coldpizza on Mar 8, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

no way this is the worst thread ever

I’ve seen much worse on here.

 Where’s Hap?

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by MobileSaint on Mar 9, 2010 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I will though agree with the comment in part

This has got to be the worst post-Super-Bowl-first-championship-in-43-years-thread ever.

 Like, in the history of mankind.

 By a team that lost its last 3 regular season games.

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by MobileSaint on Mar 9, 2010 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

In the words of Chris Rock:

I support gay marriage because I firmly believe that all Americans should have an equal right to be miserable.

by Drew-Dat on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

citation, please

Kidding. I’d rather not know.
Seriously, Dave. This thread breaks every rule in our book. Just burn it. I’d hate for S.I.’s website link to this.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 8, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Worse than the punter and the cat?

This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin'

by stujo4 on Mar 8, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

i actually find this funny.

but im jaded and weird like that. and i do heare flamboyant university has a tight end we might be interested in. just saying

by maybetoday on Mar 8, 2010 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

grrr

heare = hear (my spell check is sooo gay)

by maybetoday on Mar 8, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Please do not delete this thread.

In the immortal words of Socrates, "I drank what?"

by SaintSooner on Mar 9, 2010 2:22 AM CST reply actions  

wow

are we here to talk about football? This is ridiculous. Dave didn’t bring this conversation to polotics or even leave it open to it. He just said that he thought that what Fujita did(speaking about gay rights) was courageous. He didn’t say whether it was right or wrong. He left it up to us to be adults or mature readers, whichever the case may be. He simply expressed he thought he was brave. Agree or disagree with it that’s fine. He didn’t tell you why he thought it was brave in specifics. Do you go to the public and give interviews like these players do? Could you lose alot of fan support because of your opinion and not your work on the field? That’s why I think it was courageous to say that and it doesn’t matter if i agree with him or not. You can agree or disagree if he was courageous to speak out about gay rights or not but let’s leave it at that and be adults. I skimmed 1/3-1/2 of the comments and almost none have to do with football. So…can we move on with this and call it a day? This was like a test and I don’t believe that we passed it at all.

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by skinnykinney on Mar 9, 2010 2:59 AM CST reply actions  

Did my assertion that Fujita resembles John Krasinski violate community guidelines? I notice that it was deleted.

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by coldpizza on Mar 9, 2010 5:29 AM CST reply actions  

I think Dave's gotten out of control here...

Why offer the option to post comment at all if you can’t be borderline offensive?

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by etid5353 on Mar 9, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

This is great!

This is one of the many reasons I love Da Chronic. It’s like having a lot of people over to watch the game. During half-time, when nothing important is happening, the conversations may occasionally drift to politics, even philosophy. Heated discussions can occur. Some people are uncomfortable, some are really into it, some are serious, some are sarcastic. Some, like me, sit back and smile, appreciating that we are not just fans, but real people with a wide variety of opinions. IMO we need a thread like this occasionally. What we really need. though, is for important football stuff to start happening again. Otherwise, we may continue to go Japanese longer than we really want to. Come on second half!

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by Dang Hu Dat on Mar 9, 2010 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

You guys want to keep this thread? fine.

It’s not that I’m easily offended or too sensitive. I couldn’t give two s**** about any of it.
Just don’t be surprised if we don’t get anymore player interviews and such.
If I was on the team, I wouldn’t touch this blog with the crap written above. If you like this crap there are plenty of other sites for it (as our rules indicate).

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Mar 9, 2010 7:39 PM CST reply actions  

yea BCS keep the thread

The fact remains that all Saints fans are stating their opinion and thats a good thing. I’ve seen others blogs and they have a daily open thread for people to “chat” “talk” or “fight” in and I personally think it’s a good idea. They go off on tangents or whatever is the dish of the day and let it all out. Plus it keeps down the random BS on player/team specifics. But….but…..but….they come back to their team when it revolves around football and their team, I guess thats where we differ. I, for one, would love to have a daily thread where we could bitch, moan, be personal (human) and chat with one another. We don’t have to agree, just be vigilent of other Who Dat’s feelings. I don’t think that’s so hard to ask. In the end, Jesus1000 forbid we can’t become a true community around here that accepts one another, backs one another and agrees that we all live and die for that Saints. Sorry man, just got me at the right time where I’m ready to let it all out. LOL

by maybetoday on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

can we trade for fujita?

I’m all for getting him back via trade!!! they can take.. REGGIE!

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by greenwald200 on Mar 9, 2010 9:27 PM CST reply actions  

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