Sign and then ship back out Brandon Marshall?
by FriarBob on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM CST
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PrintCrazy idea, you say, but it's not mine. It's Florio's. Yeah, I know, he's an idiot and a Vikings fan and all that... but every rare now and then his ideas aren't actually horrid.
6. Seahawks should pull an end run around the Broncos
With the Seattle Seahawks flirting with Brandon Marshall, the Broncos are getting the word out, loud and clear: If the Seahawks want Marshall, they need to sign him to an offer sheet and be prepared to give up the sixth overall pick in the draft.
The position is more than a little donkey-headed, given that the Seahawks also hold the 14th overall pick in the draft, which Denver sent to them in 2008 for a second-round pick. With the Broncos essentially begging someone to sign Marshall to an offer sheet by tendering the restricted free agent at the first-round level only, the Broncos should be happy with any first-round pick they can get.
So here's what the Seahawks should do. They should communicate to a team like the Saints or the Colts or anyone who picks below No. 14 the terms they'd be comfortable paying to Marshall, and the Seahawks should offer to those teams the 14th overall pick for Marshall's contract. Then, one of the teams picking below No. 14 should sign Marshall to an offer sheet.
It would be a lot easier for the Broncos just to take the 14th overall pick and send Marshall to Seattle. But if they refuse to relent, then the Seahawks should give some other team an easy chance to upgrade to No. 14 — and to stick the Broncos with a pick a lot lower than No. 6.
Well if nothing else it would give us an option to upgrade our draft position for basically free. Maybe we'd need to pay a bit extra (some of his signing bonus, perhaps?) or something to pull off the trade, but that would probably be worth it as well.
And a little revenge on the Broncos for that loss in 2008 when the refs missed a blatant offsides call (and Sean got fined for complaining about it) adds even more extra reason to consider it.
So anybody else game for trying this?
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I'm game... if we can have legally binding contracts in place that would make the whole thing happen smoothly.
Basically, for the price of a few lawyers’ fees, we’d upgrade from 32 to 14.
I’ll take it!
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
lol... care to elaborate?
You wouldn’t want to move up from 32 to 14 for $50k in legal fees?
Because we’d tick off the Seahawks?
Because we’d look bad to the rest of the league? (Publicly, they would be saying what A-holes we were, while secretly and in private saying how they wished they’d had the ballz to do it.)
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
NEVERMIND!
We can do it even if we wanted to.
He’s an RFA.
Mike Florio is an idiot for suggesting the Saints/Colts there. So, other teams, not in the top 8, could do it… probably.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
"can do it" ==> "CAN'T do it."
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
If I take a Chevy and put a Toyota motor in it, is it still a Chevy?? Not worth it !!!
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I hate Mike Florio!!!!
With the 32nd pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints take... The suspense is killing me!
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by greenwald200 on Mar 9, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'm no barrister, but wouldn't this kind of team-to-team contact
(here’s what we’d pay this guy, so you sign him to the deal, sacrifice your low first round pick to Denver, then trade him to us for our higher first round draft pick)
smack of collusion or illegal tampering?
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
If I had to guess, it would wind up in arbitration, with the team that signed Marshall ultimately compensating Denver the difference between either their own first rounder and a.) the 6th overall pick (what they asked for), or b.) the average value of the 6th and 15th overall picks (what they would have been guaranteed in compensation from Seattle barring the trade) in the 2011 draft.
For the Saints, that would equate to a first round pick either way, probably more. You’re talking about a 1,010 point difference in value under the former scenario, or a 735 point difference in value under the latter. That’s roughly the equivalent of the 16th and 24th overall picks, respectfully. Under a worst case scenario for the Saints (or best, depending on how you look at it) they could theoretically win the Super Bowl again — thereby putting them back in the same 32nd slot as this year. If that occurred, they would owe Denver their first round selection, plus as high as a 3rd, 5th and 7th.
Of course, if they worked a player into the deal — say, Reggie Bush to Seattle — then Seattle would wind up footing a considerable percentage of that 2011 make up compensation. It could be worth it, provided the 15th overall pick is used wisely. Just depends on whether or not you think mortgaging the not-too-distant future of the team is worth bettering your chances of a Super Bowl repeat this season upcoming. Regardless of what side of that fence you’re on, I certainly don’t expect the team that pulls such shenanigans to walk away from it scott free.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
On top of all of that speculation, the Broncos could conceivably elect to match the contract offer, in an attempt not to get “screwed over”, as it were. It would then be up to Marshall and his agent whether or not to remain in Denver. If he did, the ambush would be avoided. If he didn’t, Marshall would be just as much the target of the Broncos’ fans scorn, as Seattle and New Orleans would. If Seattle was still in the AFC West, you could pretty much bet on on-the-field retribution — read: a cheap shot on Marshall — in one of those games. No matter how you slice it, dirt is dirt.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
All in all, it’s a creative idea … I just wouldn’t feel comfortable opening that can of worms.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
yes - NO WORMS for me either
"In the end, the bread was in the pudding." Bobby McCray
by Hans Petersen on Mar 10, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
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Marshall isn’t worth the headache. Playing pattycake in this instance would only serve to undermine the integrity of professional football. I know that in this day and age, there isn’t a lot of integrity left in the league, but at the same time, I think this sounds more like a parlor trick than anything that would benefit any organization in the league.
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by SaintsFanInIraq on Mar 9, 2010 11:51 PM CST reply actions
Sounds like a plan to me...except...
As soon as we started working on it the Broncos will accept the 14th pick from the Seahawks. Thus we’d just wind up looking like fools.
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