Reasons Why Drew Brees Is THE Best QB in the league right now.
by greenwald200 on Mar 9, 2010 4:41 AM CST
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PrintThe following article is not meant to de-fame any Quarterback in the National Football League, NOR is it to brag about our most recent WORLD CHAMPION SAINTS (!!!!). But what it is meant to do is give credit where credit is due.
After the Super Bowl, Drew was put into this "Elite QB" group of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning (which IMO all Saints fans knew he was already there). Right after the game, the first thing that reporters asked him was "Where does this put you in the elite status?" or "Are you the best QB in the league?". Andof course Drew is a humble champion would reply with such answers as "My teammates helped get me here..." andjust changing the subject kind of answers (which you can't blame the guy...who's going to say "yeah I am the best d*** QB in the league, and you can tell Peyton I said that" of course he wouldn't say that). What I'm here to do today is prove why Drew Brees is the BEST QB in the NFL and say what Drew wanted to say.
Before Peyton won a Super Bowl who were considered the ELITE QB's? Manning and Brady right? Yes...even though Manning hadn't yet won the big game he was still one of the few. Drew on the other hand was "not elite" yet not "good" he was in his own class. (I'm not sure if that part made sense to anyone but thats how it read out in my head) The chart below is one I've made that averages what I consider the top 4 QB's currently (Brees, Manning, Brady, and Rivers--I personally don't like River's but will give him his due respect) throughout the last 4 years (I let Brady slide on one year and put his last 4 FULL years):
| Brees- | Manning- | Brady- | Rivers- |
| YDS: 18298 | YDS: 16939 | YDS: 16843 | YDS: 14803 |
| TD’s: 122 | TD’s: 122 | TD’s: 128* | TD’s: 105 |
| INT: 57 | INT: 51 | INT: 47 | INT: 44 |
| PCT: 66.85 | PCT: 66.5 | PCT: 64.85 | PCT: 63.1 |
| C: 1572 | C: 1463 | C: 1422 | C: 1190 |
| QB rat: 97.85 | QB rat: 98.475 | QB rat: 98.4 | QB rat: 96.075 |
| Super Bowls: 1** | Super Bowls: 1 | Super Bowls: 0 | Super Bowls: 0 |
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*denotes having Randy Moss to throw to *denotes most current SB victory (tiebreaker) |
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As you can see Drew owns 4 of the 7 "stats" I've compiled. Manning owns 1 (which is somewhat of a bogus stat). Brady owns 1 which as you can see he CHEATED (sarcasm). And finally River's owns 1.
This past years MVP race, pretty much came down to Drew andPeyton. Peyton won with one of the big reasons being "his RB's weren't all that great" (32ndto be exact). OK I can somewhat understand that...he had to take his offense under his wing. Back to the 2008 season, Brees passes for 5,069 yards and becomes only the 2nd quarterback in history to pass for over 5,000 yards in a season. His teams rushing rank? 28thin the league. I can understand that last year we finished 8-8 so that really hurt Drew's stock, but then that was the ONLY reason he really didn't win the MVP, not even a smidgeof anyone saying "oh he didn't have a great rushing group behind him so we have to take that into consideration". Sorry...now I'm just complaining...I'll move on...
It's hard to believe but Tom Brady and his Patriots have not one a Super Bowl in 5 years (since 2005! I just graduated high school). So his SB's according to my chart are zero. Also his 128 TD's, many of those came during his 50 TD season a couple years ago so that bumped his total for that up a bit (if you average the other 3 years not including the 50 TD year, that gives him about 26 TD's a year...if he wouldn't have got Moss we could assume he'd probably meet that avg. and that would give him 104 TD's...giving him no top stats on the chart at all).
Philip Rivers, like I said I don't like (his attitude I guess). He doesn't throw INT's though, and he is and will be a great QB in the NFL. That's all I have to say about Rivers. (oh and without Rivers we wouldn't have DREW! so thats another good thing about Rivers I guess)
What I said here is what Drew really wanted to tell reporters (ok maybe IF he were to say it it wouldn't be like that...). We all know Drew is the best, and he has the stats, superbowls, leadership to prove it. Just because Manning gets behind the line and takes 20 seconds to call/setup a play doesn't make him a better QB than Drew. When all is said and done the New Orleans Saints are WORLD CHAMPIONS! and Drew Brees is the best Quarterback in the NFL.
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That certainly was a mouthful. Drew is one of the greatest QB’s on the league, and in a couple of years he may even be compared to the likes of Elway, Bradshaw, Marino or even Montana. I think 3 of the 4 QB’s listed are definitely in the “elite” category, but I don’t really agree with Rivers in the discussion. Favre would have been a better candidate. Brees has done so much since coming to New Orleans. He has led us to the play offs twice in four years, to the NFCCG twice in four years, and even one trip to the Super Bowl, which we happened to have won. The stats you listed above are true accounts of how he has progressed and improved. He also now holds the NFL record for completion percentage, 70.62%. His stats since joining the Saints indicate the good fit that he is with this team. He has turned relatively unknown players into houshold names, Colston, Meachem, Moore, Henderson – well, at least households in Louisiana. I believe that Drew Brees is the best QB in the league right now, and I believe he will continue to improve on the little things that will lead us back to the Super Bowl many more times.
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brett
i was gonna say something about brett, but I guess i was thinking more of the elites of the future, i kind of already put brett with elway, marino etc.
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I pray Stampede Blue doesn't read this
You will get reamed, and for good reason.
In my opinion Drew is playing the best right now, but you’re cherry picking which statistics you champion.
Who has the most interceptions out of the four quarterbacks mentioned? Drew.
Certainly not a statistic he wants to be known for.
Sure, I agree that Drew is the best, but moreso because of intangibles at this point. If you want to argue straight numbers, I think you’re going to lose buddy.
Not that I want to rain on your parade or anything. Jus’ sayin’.
"There are those that make it happen, those that watch it happen, and those that stand around and wonder what the hell happened." -- Drew Brees
No team fan is ever going to admit their QB isn’t the best, even if he’s Trent Dilfer. Well on second thought… maybe if he’s really THAT bad… but not if he’s in the top 10 or so.
There is no chance we’d ever convince Stampede Blue. Nor is there any chance they’d ever convince us. Ditto with the Patriots, Steelers, Chargers, Vikings, or even the hated Dirty Birds.
So I don’t really give a hoot what they think. Drew’s the best and we know it even if they don’t.
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Actually, I'm a SB guy, and I agree with greenwald.
But I’m also not one of those guys that throws stats around left and right because quite honestly stats mean NOTHING. It’s wins that people remember and it’s wins that matter.
Drew is (currently) the best QB at this very moment. He’s the MVP of the most recent Super Bowl and beat the team that has the league MVP who happens to be a QB as well. Rivers should never be in any “elite QB” discussion…mainly cause he’s a prick but I’m sure there are numbers that I’m too lazy to look up to back up my claim.
Drew may have more INT’s, but that just means he takes more chances – and those tend to pay off for him. Manning is no stranger to INT’s, and his most recent one sealed the deal on an otherwise “winnable” game.
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So, would Roethlisberger have been in this same conversation a year ago? Since stats mean nothing, I mean.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Probably.
Excuse me while I go puke.
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lol...
If you take ALL stats, except wins, out of it, sure you could make an argument.
Of course, you have to use some stats and some “intangibles”… while taking into account lots of other factors – o-line, wr’s, scheme/play calling, etc.
Pigs have flown! Hell has frozen over! The Saints HAVE WON the Superbowl!!
Yes, and I hate to admit that...
I hate Big Ben as much as any other non greaseball Steelers fan but of course he was in this conversation. Again, not so much statistically but the intangibles were there when he wasn’t being dragged to the ground. That game winning drive to win the SB is proof. Now he’s just a dirty (alleged) rapist though.
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On the INT's
Has anyone ever seen more INT’s off the hands a receiver than the ones Drew has been Credited with? A lot of his INT’s hit his receivers’ hands first. Of course, you all knew someone would bring that up.
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by SaintsFanInIraq on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
haha!
yeah I was going to say that too, but I also wanted to show that he’s not “perfect”, no one is but you can also check out this stat: Drew Brees- 2355 ATTs – 57 INTs, (1 in 41 attempts) Peyton Manning- 2198 ATTs – 51 INTs (1 in 43 attempts) Tom Brady- 2189 ATTs – 47 INTs (1 in 46 attempts) Philip Rivers- 1884 ATTs – 44 INTs (1 in 42 attempts). And yes you could say oh Brees is still last in that list, but if you look at the big picture of things, The difference in 1 in 41 attempts and 1 in 47 attempts isn’t that big of a deal.
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by greenwald200 on Mar 9, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
I also tried to crunch these numbers:
I totaled the passes these 4 QB’s attempted over the past 4 years, and came up with 8,626 passes. If you divide that by the number of games that have taken place over those 4 years (256 games total) you get an average of 33 passes attempted per game. Drew Brees Throws an avg of 14 INTs per year (0.875 per game). Tom brady throws an avg of 11.75 INTs per year (0.73 per game). {i used these 2 players to show how little the difference it is between first and last in the stat}
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by greenwald200 on Mar 10, 2010 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
and one more thing about INT's
Tony Romo threw 55 INTs in that span, Jason Campbell has thrown 38 (he didn’t play ever game), and David Garrard has thrown 35…and they are not better or even close to as good as Brees
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by greenwald200 on Mar 10, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions
You forgot to add
head to head competition. Drew beat Rivers last year in London. He beat Brady this year in the Dome. And he beat Manning in the Super Bowl. Right now, Drew Brees is the on the top of the quarterback heap.
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by MtnExile on Mar 9, 2010 8:17 AM CST reply actions 8 recs
and Favre!
in the NFCCG!
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by greenwald200 on Mar 10, 2010 3:06 AM CST up reply actions
and Warner
in the Divisional Round!
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I wasn't aware
Quarterbacks played on the field at the same time.
"There are those that make it happen, those that watch it happen, and those that stand around and wonder what the hell happened." -- Drew Brees
You guys are funny.
Don’t get me wrong Brees is right there with all of them in terms of talent. But the reason your Brees beat the other guys was Defence. The Saints had the better defence this year. If Brees was the best he’d have more rings than Rothlisberger, the Saints would be division contenders every single year,not every OTHER year. Like you said you can twist stats to say what ever you want them to say, and I do think Brees is one of the top 4 now that Warner has retired. But the facts are this. The Pat’s didn’t have the defence that they were accustomed to having, the Bolts have not been the same since Merriwether can’t use the Juice. The Colts were playing with basically out there 2 defencive stars in the superbowl. Yes Freeny and Sanders. So OK Brees beat 3 teams that were down last year, and you guys got lucky that a certain traveling Safety had another career year. Cause without him the Saints don’t go to the Superbowl.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Drew is the Best QB playing right now, but . . .
. . . not only that, not only is he the best, but he also LOOKS the coolest when he plays.
His drop back, his roll out, his set-up, his motion . . . He also looks awesome, the way his Saints helmet sits on his head, his gear, his gold cleats . . . He’s like aesthetically perfect, like some idealized anime or clip-art version of a QB.
Anyway, getting a little too close to homoerotica there, but seriously, he’s the kind of player that a lot of us imagined when we were doodling football players on our notebooks in 8th grade.
About Rivers, he’s great AND a d***.
BUT that’s exactly why I love him.
The NFL has become so bland and sterilized by rule changes and fines and overofficiating and other stuff, that a lot of guys are corralled before we even get a chance to hate them. I don’t even hate the Falcons anymore, at least not the good old Nazi-Bolshevik-like hatred I used to enjoy.
We need more HATE! When Flozell Adams cheapshotted Justin Tuck (think it was Tuck), I was over the moon! “WHAT A D***!” Hating him, in a strange way, made me like him a little more and it certainly made me enjoy that game more.
I don’t know about you guys, but as much as I need to bring a fond passion for the Saints, I also need to have a fiery hatred for other teams and players. That’s what makes the NFL fun.
Hmmm . . . I might have an idea for a new post.
"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’
by DrZin on Mar 9, 2010 6:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Man I hear ya on the hate!
I used to HATE the Patriots. I’ll admit, every time I saw Tom Brady go down on a sack, I’d scream some kind of obscenity and prayed to the football gods for an obliterated spine. One year for Halloween I cut the sleeves off a Patriots hoodie and hung it from the tree in my front yard (an “homage” to Bill Bellichick). But IDK, ever since Brady went down with that knee injury he hasn’t been the same. A lot of the best defenders on the Pats are old and worn, or retired. Yeah, they played the Colts good, but they lost to crap teams like the Broncos and got absolutely murdered by the Saints. It’s just not as fun any more to see them get beat up.
I think the issue lies with the obvious – The Colts and Saints are on their own level. They are both so good that you naturally expect them to win. There’s no point in hating another team (especially division rivals) because unless our team is having their worst game ever, that team isn’t going to beat our team. No chance. The Colts were perfect in their division this year, and IMO the Saints were too – that loss to the Bucs was one of those meaningless games.
So it comes down to this – in a league that’s supposedly built around “parity”, there just isn’t enough competition to warrant hate.
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You can hate the vikes
I don’t think you have to play your worst game to lose to us. We however, well we might have to play our worst game to lose to you….
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
As for Ben . . .
Don’t particularly care for him as a QB, but that thing last year was BS and I can’t believe that it hasn’t been thrown out of court.
The woman was sending e-mail to her friends bragging that she was on her way to bang Ben Roethlisberger later that night. That b**** should be publically shamed and charged with filing a false police report.
Of course, I have no information about what he did in the bar last weekend, but come on . . . I’m sure he did something stupid, but it was, in a bar! Likely far short of the Jody Foster on a pinball machine scenario.
As for actual forcible rape, I think depending on the circumstances, that’s another crime that should carry the death penalty. Seriously.
But if some guy is drunk at a bar, and grabs some girls t***, that is a FAR FAR lesser transgression. That’s disturbing the peace or drunk and disorderly, not “sexual assault.”
If we don’t maintain a proper distinction between drunken boorishness and violent rape, the former is magnified and the latter is diminished.
"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’
After reading a little more . . .
. . . I’m less inclined to discount the second girl’s story, but I still think that more than in most similar cases, and until more details come to light, Ben doesn’t deserve the “Rapistberger” smears.
"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’
Well technically she didn’t actually file a false police report. Just a (potentially, at least) false civil claim.
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But really..
how could Drew Brees have answered those questions? for some reason I was kind of annoyed. It’s not up to him if he’s up there with Brady and Manning…it’s up to the FANS and the media itself. All Drew could do was keep performing the way he did and win the big one. Don’t ask the MAN “who’s the man?”
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Either way, you can bet on it: next year, it’s STILL going to be . . .
“Is it time to start considering Drew Brees one of the elite quarterbacks of the NFL? Up there with Manning, Brady, and Roethlisberger? If he keeps playing like this, I think it might be!”
He’ll need to win 2 more titles before they drop that s***.
"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’
lol thats true
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by greenwald200 on Mar 10, 2010 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
Check out this awesome shot downfield by cool Brees!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKLL7Lk74D8
Rule #1: Double tap.
you keep showing that clip. is that the best ya got?
oh wait, yea it is.
by maybetoday on Mar 10, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was at that game.
That dude’s got ups… but you lost.
How’d you do in the playoffs?
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