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Saints Rookie Revealed: Al Woods

I was once told that in music, a great drummer will go unnoticed. They keep the beat and let melody guys grab the attention and make statements with their own instruments. Flawless, reliable and steadfast are the qualities that help them fade into the background, despite their utmost importance to the grand scheme of almost every song. 

Those aren't bad qualities to have in a good defensive tackle either and after my conversation with Poseur of SB Nation's LSU blog, And the Valley Shook!, that seems to be what the Saints got in fan favorite Al Woods. Everything from the position he was drafted - 123rd overall, just four and a half spots from the absolute middle of the total number of draft picks - to his performance on the field all highlight a player who does his job loyally yet anonymously. And that's just fine with me. 

So make the jump and read on to learn more about the Saints newest defensive tackle, the always solid yet remarkably "unremarkable" Al Woods. Because a lot of you also follow LSU closely, I am interested to hear whether you agree with Poseur's assessment and look forward to your comments and even more information.  

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Dave:  Personally, what did you feel about the position Woods got drafted? Did you think he'd go earlier or are you surprised he was drafted as early as he was?

ATVS:  I thought he was a middle round pick given the NFL's unrelenting demand for defensive tackles.  Fourth round seemed about right for a good, not great, SEC defensive tackle who contributed for three years.

 

Dave:  Why do you think the Saints traded up just to get Woods? What do you think they see in him that they just had to have?

ATVS:  Familiarity.  The Saints always seem to take LSU players to fill out the back end of their roster, probably because they are a known quantity.  I don't really think it was an "Oh my God, we have to get Al Woods" sort of trade, but at the 123rd overall pick, it is pretty difficult to find viable defensive tackles.  It was a need for the Saints and it seemed like a trade to prevent someone else from moving up.  Really, he was the last DT on the board without huge question marks.  Woods is a solid player, though sort of unexciting.


Dave:  What will Woods need to improve on to be successful in the NFL?

ATVS:  I think Woods dropping weight to become quicker was a mistake.  He shed some pounds so he would play quicker, hopefully to help with his pass rush, and it didn't really work.  The problems on the pass rush were probably not with Woods, but schematic with LSU.  It seems someone just needs to teach him better pass rushing technique.  Yeah, that's a shot at our coaching.

 

Dave:  Does Woods have any history of injury? 

ATVS:  The good news: no.  Woods has no history of injury.  The bad news: everyone who plays on the interior line is one chop block away from injury.  You can't guarantee future health for the obvious reasons.

 

Dave:  Woods has a reputation for not living up to the hype or the expectations. Should that be a concern at the next level?

ATVS:  Obviously.  Then again, you did get him in the fourth round, so it's not like there's a huge investment in the guy.  Woods was in the rotation as a sophomore but wasn't a starter until his senior year.  He actually seemed to regress in his junior year.  He had a nice senior year, but Woods' career was wholly unremarkable.  Okay, he blocked a field goal once.  But Woods just seemed like a quality player who did his job quietly and now is getting rewarded with an NFL paycheck.  Nothing about him screams "star" but he doesn't scream "bust" either.  

And here comes the double edged sword of potential.  If a player maximizes his ability in college, he's downgraded because he has no upside.   But if he does too poorly, he's already a washout.  Woods has room to get better, but he was a solid player in college.  I wouldn't call him a disappointment, I'd just call him a good player.  Not everyone gets to be a star, particularly interior linemen.

 

Dave:  What's Woods' reputation off the field? Any trouble?

ATVS:  Absolutely none.  Say what you will about the Miles Era, but LSU players have certainly stayed out of trouble under his watch as a general rule.  And those who do get in trouble aren't long for the team.  Woods didn't generate headlines, he just went out there and played hard. 

 

Dave:  Any random, interesting facts about Woods? Tell us something about him that not many people would know.

ATVS:  See, that's the crazy thing about Woods.  He might be one of the most unremarkable players to ever come through LSU's program.  I don't mean that as a negative.  After our recent run of DT greatness, Woods can be labelled a disappointment I guess, but that would be unfair.  Failing to be Lavalais or Dorsey is not a failure as those are two of the best players in LSU history.  He just had a good career.  People wanted it to be great.


Dave:  Where do you see Al Woods in three years?

ATVS:  In the defensive line rotation, anonymously doing his job.  He'll be a good run stuffer primarily and he'll be just one of the guys filling out the roster, maybe even a starter.  Hopefully, he'll have a Super Bowl ring from a Saints team on which he made a decent contribution.  I can't predict greatness for him, but I think he'll have a solid career as a decent defensive tackle.  The shelf life for linemen isn't exactly long, so he'll probably be out of the league in five years once he suffers the inevitable injury.  Boy, that sounds pessimistic.  I like Woods, but let's not kid ourselves, there's a reason he was available in the fourth round. And the career of an interior lineman in the NFL is hard and usually short.   

And I know you didn't ask, but I love Harry Coleman's upside.  My random prediction is that Coleman actually has the better NFL career due to his ability to play both linebacker and safety.  And Coleman is a guy who has the reputation of being willing to cut off his right arm to help the team.    

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I love Coleman's chances for making the final 53 man roster for the Saints

Talk about “versatility”. This kid practically defines the word that Saints coaches covet so greatly in their aggressive on-the-field schemes! I just hope that he doesn’t automatically supplant Chris Reis, who I also love for what he brings to the table on this Saints squad.

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey guys, sorry for interrupting – I need your help – I’m writing a piece on the ages of offensive linemen in the NFL.

What is the most likely starting 5 along your OL for the upcoming season? For the best accuracy, I’d prefer to hear from you guys rather than trust an ESPN depth chart.

Thanks!

by JimmyK on Apr 30, 2010 7:25 AM CDT reply actions  

For the Saints, that all depends on where Jammal Brown winds up...

Currently, the depth chart would look like this if Jammal Brown were coming back to New Orleans, which he probably won’t be (but who really knows at this point?):

LT – Jammal Brown, Jermon Bushrod
LG – Carl Nicks, Brandon Carter®
C – Jonathan Goodwin, Nick Leckey, Matt Tennant®
RG – Jahri Evans, Tim Duckworth
RT – Jon Stinchcomb, Zach Strief

My Prediction: Brown gets traded sometime before preseason and Bushrod keeps his starting spot this year with the Saints…

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry… one more question – Could you please shed a little more light on the Jammal Brown situation?

by JimmyK on Apr 30, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jammal Brown is a RFA due to no CBA this year (otherwise he'd be UFA)

The Saints gave him the highest possible tender offer at a 1st and 3rd draft pick level of compensation if signed by another team but he got no offers from elsewhere, he has yet to sign his tender offer from them and he is holding out from the team’s offseason training program until either a long term deal is agreed upon for him with the Saints or they can agree to part ways in a trade, essentially. Bushrod is contracted in with the Saints and they drafted OT Charles Brown from USC as an apparent form of insurance in case a trade scenario is eventually worked out with Jammal Brown. Does that explain the situation in a nutshell well enough for you?

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, very nicely. Thanks again.

by JimmyK on Apr 30, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where will I eventually be able to read this anyway?

“I’m writing a piece on the ages of offensive linemen in the NFL.”

I would like to read your final findings after you have done all the leg-work to collect it all from around the league…

Thank you.

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

You left out Charles Brown, who is currently behind Bushrod on the depth chart. And that’s probably where he’ll stay…this year, at least.

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by MtnExile on Apr 30, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

The guy was only asking for the top 5 linemen for each team...

…which is why I purposely left Charles Brown off the list that I gave him. He won’t project into a depth chart until he gets into rookie camp next weekend and something happens on the Jammal Brown front anyway…

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

He needs to be coached up....

He’s a pretty good tackler, but not very quick.

Wouldn’t call him productive, he never gets to the QB.

His Senior season was a huge disappointment given his Junior-year performance and the expectation that he would at least moderately improve on those numbers. Instead, he plateaued and was seemed to take plays off.

He’s a guy that has the tangibles. Now someone needs to teach him better technique and light his fire.

by TigerPaw on Apr 30, 2010 8:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't doubt for one second that GW and Bill Johnson can get that accomplished...

The kid loves the fact that he was drafted by his life-long favorite team in the Saints and he will not have the luxury or the desire to want to “take plays off” anymore on the pro level. I think there was a lot of question regarding the coaching at LSU too, which may have more to do with his lack of improvement from Jr to Sr years there than anything that he failed to do himself, at least in my mind.

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny how I’ve never heard anyone attempt to write off Jonathan Goodwin’s lack of production as a Saint on John Pease or Rick Venturi.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Apr 30, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

If any of you in here hasn't seen it yet, please read my Saints Draft Recap here:

http://isportsweb.com/2010/04/28/new-orleans-saints-draft-recap-pick-grades-and-rookie-free-agent-list/

Please feel free to leave your comment there at isportsweb with your take on the draft, or anything else regarding the Saints, for that matter too.

Thanks,

Derrick

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather tell you here

I pretty much agree with your take, on everything.

1. Robinson—like you, I was pretty much against this pick when it happened. Unlike you (probably), I was a little hysterical. But after thinking about it a lot, I have to admit it makes sense. The Saints never were going to draft a linebacker (I hope they really see something they like in Arnoux), they covered up their hole at defensive end with Brown and Wilkerson, and they got the tackle they wanted later at #4. Robinson actually will be an immediate starter, I think,—because with so many 3-receiver sets, nickel back can be considered a starting position nowadays. Assuming Sharper doesn’t return, a backfield consisting of Jenkins / Harper / Greer / Porter / Robinson looks pretty good on paper.

2. Brown—a solid pick. Was there anyone else better to take at that position? Not apparently. As things will inevitably turn out, of course there was…but who? Based on what we know now, Brown was a good BPA pick.

3. Graham—like you, this is the pick that excites me most. And though some say he has a high bust potential, I don’t think that will happen—because of Jeremy Shockey. He has the talent; all he needs to do is put in the work. The presence on the team of another top tight end from The U is going to push Graham to give his best. I think he’ll turn out to be one of the best tight ends in the league.

4. Woods—a good pick for this spot. I was hoping we’d get Price in the first…but then again, Price is a 3-technique tackle. Woods isn’t very big for a nose tackle, but he is best against the run, and Price might have been largely wasted at this position. (How is Tampa Bay going to use both Price and McCoy on the line when neither is a true nose tackle?)

5. Tennant—great pick. The next gem of an offensive lineman taken in the low rounds by the Saints. We’re the best in the business at doing this. Sorry…MICKEY is the best in the business. Give the man his due.

6. Canfield—don’t know. Weak arm? Does that mean he can’t throw 50 yards downfield, or can’t throw 8-yard out patterns without being picked off? He’s smart, accurate, makes good decisions. As a backup, that’s about all you have a right to expect. I don’t think he’ll develop into the next Drew Brees…but we don’t want him to. He’d leave. We want him to be serviceable in an emergency. An emergency that never happens. Work on those clipboard skills, kid.

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by MtnExile on Apr 30, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the comments MtnExile...

…but I don’t see why you wouldn’t also copy and paste them onto the isportsweb site to potentially add to the discussion over there as well.

On a side note, what mountain are you serving your exile on? I live part time on Signal Mountain on the outskirts of Chattanooga, TN with my soon-to-be estranged wife of 13 years this September and the rest of the time in Clinton, TN (near Knoxville and the Great Smoky Mountains).

Later,

D

by realheavyd on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t really frequent many blogs…don’t take it personally, but even if I posted there, I probably wouldn’t bother going back to check things. If I’m going to get into discussions about the Saints, I’d rather it be here.

I live in Asheville, not too far from you. Not on a mountain, per se, but surrounded by them.

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by MtnExile on Apr 30, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then why isn’t your name VlyExile? Or GlenClose?

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Apr 30, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I’m going to get into discussions about the Saints, I’d rather it be here.

He loves the give and take. And he is gradually becoming a better person. No thanks are necessary.

Who finds the money when you pay the rent?

by stujo4 on Apr 30, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hot women? If they’re here, they’re all lesbians. But I haven’t seen any lately. Now, New Orleans…lots of hot women there. Even more come August.

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by MtnExile on Apr 30, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is really heavy. Seriously.

Who finds the money when you pay the rent?

by stujo4 on Apr 30, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Saints always seem to take LSU players

I know!! And Peter King (I think) once said that it was a reader’s imagination that NFL teams tend to collect players from regional colleges. That is some BS. Look at any roster.

Who finds the money when you pay the rent?

by stujo4 on Apr 30, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Just think how much it would suck to get drafted by the team you followed all your years growing up, only to get cut, waived or arguably worst of all, traded to another team. That’s exactly what happened to Brady Quinn. That’s also why I’ll never buy into the notion that players should be 100% loyal to any one NFL team. No matter how we choose to paint it as fans, it’s a business. Al Woods, I hope you’re taking notes.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Apr 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woods may be a solid DT but he was domianted

many times in college and was not a top-notch DT in college

He was good but not great.

He has a LOT of learning to do and people who think he will do great to start the year off are very misinformed

by Alious on Apr 30, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Ready for the Al Woods sack dance!

by pma on May 18, 2010 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

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