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Updates from Today's Saints OTA's

Below are updates via Twitter and a few links regarding Saints practice today. Click the picture of Drew on the right for a few more taken today. 

  

jeffduncantp Quick observations from #Saints OTAs: D.Sharper, J.Stinchcomb, R.Meachem, Clint Ingram, Lynell Hamilton & Charles Brown were not working. 

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA observations: Heath Evans, Chip Vaughn, Stanley Arnoux, Reggie Jones & Rod Harper were back in action after '09 injuries.

wwltvsports From OTAs: Sharper, Stinchcomb, Meachem, Ingram, Hamilton and C. Brown were not working out.

wwltvsports Harry Coleman was out at the OTA, wearing No. 95

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jeffduncantp #Saints OTA observations: Jo-Lonn Dunbar was working as the starting strong-side linebacker with Ingram out.

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA observations: Malcolm Jenkins worked at both corner & free safety, but primarily at free safety

wwltvsports A Brown and B McCray were switching in and out and right def end. Dunbar was working w/ LBs

wwltvsports W/ Sharper out, Usama Young was at FS.

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA observations: Bobby McCray worked as the starting LDE, with Alex Brown behind him on the depth chart.

wwltvsports Payton: "We're more experienced. And winning the Super Bowl, we're more confident."

wwltvsports Payton on SB exp: "also helps you recognize how difficult the challenge is."

wwltvsports Payton: " There hasn't been any dialogue in pierre's case. I haven't talked with Pierre so I don't want to speak o his behalf."

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA presser: Payton on J.Brown: "It's pretty common. There hasn't bean any dialogue. We've had great attendance., y and large."

wwltvsports Payton on J Brown: ""If there's something to report, we'll announce it. right now, we're really focused on the guys who are here"

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA: Payton on Brown trade: "It would be inappropriate for me to discuss players' contracts or trade or any of that."

wwltvsports Payton: "The main focus of may, and april, is getting their bodies in shape. "

wwltvsports Payton says Malcolm Jenkins has made the move to Free Safety, but is versatile and can come down in the nickle package.

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA: Payton on Jenkins: "He has (made the move to FS). We'll work him at '3' (nickel). He's doing well & working primarily at FS."

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA: Payton on rooks: "Patrick had a good 1st practice Tuesday & made some plays on the ball. We've been pleased."

wwltvsports Payton on Joe Horn: "I've said this before. He's an awfully engaging personality, one that's easy to gravitate to."

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA: Payton on J.Horn: "It was good to see him. ... He's an awfully engaging person. He was part of this rebuilding program."

wwltvsports Payton on roster: "The minute we finished in Miami, there's the reality you're not going to have the same team back

wwltvsports Payton on Alex Brown: "He's someone who has acclimated himself well. I think he's a good teammate."

wwltvsports Payton says he'd like to get Chase Daniel a lot of work in offseason and presaeson

wwltvsports Payton on Sharper: ""we're hopeful his role is the same. The key is going to be the rehab of the injury and getting back into playing shape"

wwltvsports Payton on SB hangover: "that topic is the first topic we brought up to start the offseason program."

wwltvsports   Payton on depth chart: We probably pay less attention to who is with the first team or second team right now than any other time."    

jeffduncantp #Saints OTA: Payton said the club would likely lean toward taking 4 QBs to training camp. Right now they have 3: Brees, Daniel & Canfield.

wwltvsports Brees: "there comes a time when it's time 2 get bck 2 work & thinking abt how 2 accomplish the things we're still setting out 2 accomplish "

wwltvsports   Brees: You also have to understand we are building a new team and it is a new year. "   

wwltvsports Brees: "Philosophy is that we have not arrived by any means. Yes, we have reached the pinnacle of our league, but it was only 1 year."

miketripletttp Drew Brees talking now: We have to realize 31 teams are going after us. But I feel like we have great window of opportunity. We cant relax.

miketripletttp Question: If you were an oddsmaker, would you make you guys the favorites? ...

miketripletttp Brees' answer: Every year,if the SB champs have most everyone coming back, youd say they're thefavorites. But we know no one will lay down

wwltvsports Brees: "I look at our team and say why can't we do it again. But you can't just walk onto the field and expect everybody to lay down."

jeffduncantp Brees: "We know that every team on our schedule is circling the name 'New Orleans Saints" on their schedule."

jeffduncantp Brees: "I like what I've seen from him so far. He's a pretty low-key guy. I like his demeanor."

wwltvsports Brees: "A lot of times it's more difficult to stay at the top once your there than it is to rise from the bottom to the top"

jeffduncantp Brees: "Ive tried to talk to as many people as I can who have won the Big One, and tried to come back. It's difficult, maybe more difficult"

jeffduncantp Brees: "I've had some wonderful opportunities this offseason, met a lot of great people. ... I hope we have more offseasons like this."

wwltvsports Brees: "the thing that suffered the most was golf. I haven't played as much, but that's OK bec I hope we have a lot more like this."

wwltvsports Brees (1/2): Last year ws the most competive offseason I've ever been a part of

wwltvsports Brees (2/2) "... felt like that prepared us so well and I feel like we're starting off that way again thisseason."

wwltvsports Brees says SB win has helped show the city in a good light.

wwltvsports Brees: "It's hard to go somewhere and just relax unless I'm in my own home. But I guess that's a good thing.

wwltvsports Brees is gushing over his golf lesson from Jack Nicklaus. Came on the 13th hole of a pro-am tourney. Big ol' smile.

  

 New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees says he's ready to get back to work - Times-Pic

 Observations from New Orleans Saints OTA practice - Times-Pic

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MJ is now a FS

I like that he’s been moved there because it seems he can be one of the best at that position. It also shows that Rotoworld was wrong about him staying at CB after the Sharper signing. I win that Stujo grudge list entry!

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on May 27, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't spend your winnings yet

This is just OTAs. Sharper’s not back, and Jenkins is still being worked at nickel.

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by MtnExile on May 27, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Already spent

Based on what I’m reading here and have read in the last month, MJ as FS sounds almost like a done deal. He may not play there exclusively this year because we’ll have Sharper and will probably train to be a hybrid of sorts, but I’m betting he’ll be the starter at FS next season. Uh oh, I’ve given Stu something new to add to his grudge list.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on May 27, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Done deal

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by Dave Cariello on May 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The analysis of him before the draft was that he was more of a FS than a CB. If I remember correctly, one analyst went as far as to say that he would be a good CB, maybe even make a few pro bowls, but as a FS he has the skill set to be a future hall of famer.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on May 27, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree also

coming on strong

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by OldFartFan on May 27, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He may not play there exclusively this year because we’ll have Sharper and will probably train to be a hybrid of sorts, but I’m betting he’ll be the starter at FS next season.

I agree absolutely.

If you look at the post, my position (not stated) is that Sharper was signed to play. I took Satch’s reply to mean that Jenkins will edge him out as starting FS in 2010 by earning the job (I accused you of making a “bold prediction”). The Saints didn’t sign Sharper to sit on the bench or coach Jenkins. Everything hinges on Sharper’s health and his contract indicates that. If Sharper can play, he’ll be FS in 2010 and Jenkins will play nickel. If Sharper is dinged up, Jenkins will be ready to step in as FS in his place. If Sharper can heal and come off the bench, he’ll take his job back and put Jenkins back at nickel. If he can’t heal, they’ll cut him and Jenkins will be FS.

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by stujo4 on May 28, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, Stu - I think you nailed the FS position situation for 2010

Using my usual positive outlook, I’m going to file your statements in my “Sunshine File” and be sure to remind you of your correctness when it turns out to be true later this season.

Anyone else want to join me in building our CSC “Sunshine File”?

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by Hans Petersen on May 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Harry Coleman was out at the OTA, wearing No. 95”

Switched numbers to free up 55 for Ingram, who is a true LB. Expect Coleman to switch numbers again, once the roster is whittled down a little (assuming he’s not part of said whittling).

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Logistically, the ideal solution would be to trade Stinchcomb, who’s coming off a Pro Bowl season and is still under contract, then sign Brown to RT money and play him there. The problem being Brown’s ego will likely get in the way of that ever happening. His agent will be quick to point out his two Pro Bowls (insert jerk off motion here) and demand compensation based on that, not on what position he’ll actually be playing. Either that or he’ll sign for less and be a pouty little b**** about it. The only real world solution I can see outside of a trade, is if the Saints would agree to some sort of no-shift clause, that would in essence guarantee Brown not to be moved back to LT, if Bushrod/C. Brown were to get injured and/or just not work out. That way, J. Brown wouldn’t feel like he’s setting himself up to get screwed out of LT money. Still doesn’t cover the accolades he racked up at LT, but he may be willing to blame himself for that, being that he agreed to the move the first time around without adequate compensation. I don’t think Payton would want to handcuff himself like that, though. And what happens when BOTH Bushrod and C. Brown go down? If J. Brown flatout refused to fill in during a close game based on a contract clause, the media would run him into the ground as a selfish pr***, when technically he’d be doing exactly what he’s being paid to do. It’s almost a lose-lose situation. I say the guy’s gotta go.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd much rather he (insert jerk off motion here)

than have a link to a vid of him doing it.

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by maybetoday on May 27, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or worse

A link to your mother describing it. BOOM!

Jk. Not about the it being worse part, though.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

only if youre a platinum member of her site.

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by maybetoday on May 27, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess the clause could read something like “IF J. Brown is at any time asked to play LT, his contract will automatically increase x%”. Something like that might work for both sides.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, yeah, they could do that. It would go under the “not likely to be earned” incentive clauses, and basically they could say that any game he plays LT for more than 4 snaps he would be paid 150% of his normal salary for that week.

by FriarBob on May 27, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome. But would Brown and his agent agree to a RT re-assignment for RT money? I honestly can’t see him starting at LT too many other places and the Saints DO still hold his rights. Also, what could we get in trade value for Stinchcomb? And is the upside of Brown over Stinchcomb at RT worth exploring any of this? I guess the answer to that part lies in how well he’s coming along from the surgery.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

As well as how well C. Brown is coming along, because you can’t very well go into the season with Strief as the only healthy backup on the team.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

some sort of no-shift clause,

Has something like that been done before?

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by Dave Cariello on May 27, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to my knowledge. I don’t see why it couldn’t be, though. I mean, if Antwaan Randle El felt there was a pretty good chance he would enter the season as Dennis Dixon’s primary backup in Pittsburgh, don’t you think he’d want some sort of clause in his contract saying “pay me like a QB” in that situation? I know the Steelers have Leftwich so that’s not a likely scenario, but it’s pretty much the same line of thought.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on May 27, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

hamilton not practicing?

down to regg, PJ & the rooks..?

on another note: the wwltv reporter has not realized that you call left & right DEs, looking from the safety position.. not the opposing tailback.. blunt tool, no-doubt..

by the 9th plague on May 27, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

On the O-line

Keeping Brown would secure depth in this uncapped year . Has he got experience playing Rt or OG . Why does every team need tolose a good player to gain a good player . Where is that Superbowl clout …….???

by gothicpurple on May 29, 2010 12:09 AM CDT reply actions  

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