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2010 Rankings by Division

Ya, it's the end of May. Mandatory Camps are starting soon, teams are getting ready, and that means it's time to start ranking teams. I'm setting it up by division, so it should be clearer to read. At the end of June, I'll come out with another one, but included in that will be my playoff predictions as well.

 

AFC

East

New York Jets 11-5

New England Patriots 10-6

Miami Dolphins 10-6

Buffalo Bills 1-15

 

It's a strong division, I expect 2, if not 3 teams from this division to make the playoffs. The Bills are currently the worst team in the NFL. The questions at QB and LT spell a difficult season for C.J. Spiller and co.

 

North

 

Baltimore Ravens 11-5

Cincinnati Bengals 10-6

Pittsburgh Steelers 8-8

Cleveland Browns 4-12

 

Anquan Boldin will help the Ravens offense out. The Bengals don't drop much, but Cedric Benson's job is going to be tougher this year. They better hope the additions at WR and TE pan out. The Steelers lose Ben Roethlisberger for the first 6, and Santonio Holmes is gone too. If they don't start well without Big Ben, it's going to be a long season. The Browns haven't done enough, and Scott Fujita wishes he didn't leave.

 

West

San Diego Chargers 12-4

Denver Broncos 7-9

Oakland Raiders 7-9

Kansas City Chiefs 4-12

 

Easily one of the worst divisions in football, the Chargers are the only legitimate playoff team of the bunch. Oakland gets better, but not by enough. Denver and KC haven't done enough to put themselves in the playoffs.

 

South

 

Indianapolis Colts 13-3

Tennessee Titans 10-6

Houston Texans 9-7

Jacksonville Jaguars 4-12

 

Peyton Manning continues to own that division. Tennessee builds off of last season's late push. Houston is going to miss Brian Cushing for the first 4, and Jacksonville didn't really do anything in the offseason to get better. Tyson Alualu better have a good season or the questions about his draft position will intensify.

 

Playoff Teams:

Indy, SD, NYJ, Baltimore, NE, Cin

 

NFC

East

Dallas Cowboys 11-5

Washington Redskins 10-6

Philadelphia Eagles 8-8

New York Giants 6-10

 

Disappointing season for the Eagles and Giants this year. The Giants haven't really filled any holes from last year, so they really need to get that pass rush going or they're sitting ducks again. Losing Donavan McNabb and Brian Westbrook will have a bigger impact than the Eagles think. The Redskins, meanwhile, got some big upgrades and might just make the playoffs.

 

North

Minnesota Vikings 11-5

Green Bay Packers 10-6

Detroit Lions 6-10

Chicago Bears  5-11

 

Brett Favre coming back pretty much solidifies the division for the Vikings. The Packers O-line got stronger thanks to the addition of Bryan Bulaga, and if their secondary can stay healthy, they should be a strong team again. The Lions had some very good offseason moves, bringing in Kyle Vanden Bosch, as well as rookies Ndamkukong Suh and Jahvid Best. The Bears offseason acquisitions won't help them enough. We know from experience that Julius Peppers takes a bunch of plays off, and now the Bears get to find that out for themselves.

 

West

San Fransisco 49ers 9-7

Arizona Cardinals 8-8

Seattle Seahawks 7-9

St. Louis Rams 3-13

 

Another very bad division. Kurt Warner retiring leaves the Cardinals with Matt Leinart and Derek Anderson- two guys who haven't done much to prove they can lead a team. San Fran's offseason moves, as well as the development of younger players and continued amazingness of Patrick Willis, means they should be the front-runners for the division. Seattle will be better, but I wouldn't expect them to make the playoffs yet. Sam Bradford is going to have a long season if that o-line doesn't hold up.

 

South

 

New Orleans Saints 13-3

Atlanta Falcons 10-6

Carolina Panthers 5-11

Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3-13

 

Not too many games that I expect us to lose. The Falcons should get better with Matt Ryan's improvement, and Michael Turner back at full health. Carolina hasn't done anything to replace Peppers, and that offense still has a big question mark at the Quarterback position. The only thing good I can say about them, is that running game is still very strong, and will remain the focal point of their offense. Josh Freeman's second year isn't going to go any better than his first, especially now that #1 target Antonio Bryant is with the Bengals.

 

Playoff Teams

NO, Min, San Fran, Dallas, Atlanta, GB.

 

Let me know what you think

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Woof! Nice tags

Your predictions are worth as much as anyone else’s at this point…

We’ll see how they turn out. I’m quite ready for it to be September 9.

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by Hans Petersen on May 31, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

september 9 can’t come quick enough

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on May 31, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we will be better than 8-8

We get Troy P. and Aaron Smith back on defense, something tells me that BB will only be out for the first four games, Dennis Dixon will win the “Starting” QB battle, and Mendenhall and Jonathan Dwyer will help carry the running game, and an upgraded OL with Pouncy at RG will help create large running lanes for our RB and give BB more time to run around like a Chicken with his head cut off while trying to find the open receiver. My prediction 10-6 or 11-5, win the Division, lose in the Divisional round

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by WVPiratesfan on May 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

i was going on the assumption that goodell keeps it at 6. if you guys struggle their, and start less than .500 before ben gets back, i think that 8-8 is the best you can hope for. if you can scrape out at least 4 wins in the first 6, then 10-6 is a reality

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on May 31, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

NorthFan,

are you assuming that Farve will be back?

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on May 31, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

yep

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on May 31, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the saints will be 12-4 or 11-5

They will be at least a number 2 seed in the playoffs.
If they beat the Vikings in the season opener than they will be number 1 seeded.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on May 31, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

i have them as the number 1 seed at 13-3

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on May 31, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like the turnover from last year's playoffs

You have the same exact teams from last year coming back in the AFC. I like the NFC changes but I think there will be at least one different team in the AFC that goes, the Texans or the Steelers for instance. Both are Playoff caliber teams, that I think made some pretty good adjustments. Big Ben should only be gone 4 games. Cushing being gone 4 will hurt. But he isnt as crucial to the Texans defense as Mario Williams being gone or Demeco Ryans. If the Texans split the Colts and the Steelers take at least 2 of the 4 games Ben misses. They should make the playoffs as wild cards.

by Jon Banks on May 31, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

as stated above, im assuming big bens gone for 6. as for cushing not being crucial to their defense, 3 of the 4 teams they play (IND, DAL and WAS) should have offenses strong enough to show that missing Cushing is going to be tough for the texans. they should be able to beat OAK tho, but 1-3 isn’t a great mark to start with, and they play in a pretty tough division

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on May 31, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

NE is going to be hurting without Welker.
Cincy has never been consistent.
I’d mix it up a bit and maybe put Miami and Titans in the playoffs instead of NE and Cincy
Titans were a number one seed 2 years ago and I like Miami’s steady improvement at QB and defensively. I don’t see either advancing, but maybe getting in.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on May 31, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure about the Titans

If Vince Young comes back exactly as he was those final 10 games. They could win the Division and leave Indy to be the Wildcard. If he can’t come back the same, they will have an 8-8 season. As for Miami, I havent heard much about their defensive improvements. Re-watching the Saints and Dolphins game, I don’t like Chad Henne, he didn’t seem that good, maybe he some improvement, or maybe he just seemed that bad because they were playing the Saints :) . Otherwise I agree with you on Cincinnati and NE. Also I think Tom Brady won’t have a good year this year. He seemed to decline in ability last year the exception being the Jaguars game.

by Jon Banks on May 31, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

“He seemed to decline in ability last year the exception being the Jaguars Titans game.”

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 1, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Carlos Dansby

for Miami D

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jun 1, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miami and Tennessee were two teams that i said could definitely make it. I think there will be a few 10-6 teams, and it’ll come down to tiebreakers

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 1, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

From your post

to the football gods’ ears! I would love to see the Saints go 13-3 again this year in the regular season; starting with a victory in their home opener against the Vikes!

"The Saints made the right decision signing Drew Brees-not just in terms of his arm, but because of his heart and mind." - Marshall Faulk

by SaintsFanMD on May 31, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

NO WAY...

The JETS win 11 games or the AFC East. Miami aint gonna win 10 games either. Both of those teams will hover around 8-8.

by jray2000 on May 31, 2010 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

The Jets don’t win the AFC East? How do you figure? There running game is still going to be top 2(if not the best) in the league, they got stronger on defense and now they have a legitimate receiver. Miami only upgraded at LB(Dansby over Porter), got a stud WR(Marshall), got a solid DT(Odrick), have a great running tandem(Ricky/Ronnie), have a QB going into his second year of a system in which he played very well in last year with little to no receiving help and got Mike Nolan as the DC

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 1, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

“There running game is still going to be top 2(if not the best) in the league”

I agree with most of your analysis above; I differ on a few some points and two (maybe three playoff teams) but that statement is FAR from true.

TJ was their workhorse. And Washington might have turned into something good for them. But their run game is now middle of the pack. They will be improved on defense and Sanchez will be a little better, but he won’t have the luxury of a top 2 running game anymore. I could see them with the same or up to two fewer wins this coming season.

"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin

by Dan Kelly on Jun 1, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

John Connor, Joe McKnight, LT and Shonn Greene, especially behind that line, should do just fine. They traded Leon Washington to the Seahawks

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 1, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

“John Connor, Joe McKnight, LT and Shonn Greene, especially behind that line, should do just fine.”

We’ll see. I seriously doubt it.

“They traded Leon Washington to the Seahawks.”

I know… that’s why I said “might” have turned into something good… They got rid of their two best RB’s.

We’ll have to wait and see how the two rookies (one RB and one FB), the second year player with potential, and the well over the hill LT do next year.

My prediction, the Jets don’t crack the top 10 in rushing yards.

"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin

by Dan Kelly on Jun 1, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

that’s why I said "might" have turned into something good

by that i assumed you meant that he might be good for them this year.

I still think the jets are going to be a run-first team, and with 3 guys in the backfield(taking out mcknight who does appear to be locked in at FB) running the ball, i think theyll be able to crack the top 5. LT got 730 yards behind an OK line in a pass-first last year, and the jets line is much better than OK. If we go by last years stats, adjust based on carries/development/regression, LT should have about 800, Shonn Greene should have about 900, and id expect to see connor get about 500, maybe more. thats top 5 numbers

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 1, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Northfan

W-L records aside, I have most of the divisions playing out exactly as you do. Three exceptions:

a.) Kansas City finishes 3rd ahead of Oakland.
b.) Houston finishes 2nd ahead of Tennessee.
c.) Tampa Bay finishes 3rd ahead of Carolina.

For what it’s worth, I have the Saints winning the NFC South at 11-5, seeded below both Minnesota and Dallas going into the playoffs. I do have them advancing further than either of those two teams however, losing to wild card Green Bay in the NFCCG.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jun 1, 2010 7:14 AM CDT reply actions  

My idea of the playoffs for the saints and the Vikes is exactly opposite

I have you guys having a better record and then losing to us or Green Bay.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Jun 1, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a solid effort Northfan...

I would switch Washington and Philly as well as Houston and Tennessee. Good post.

by Jshore on Jun 1, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice work on the 256-256 overall W-L balance, btw

You have no idea how many people fail to take that into account when posting predictions.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jun 1, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

haha ya i definitely made sure it balanced before i posted it

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 1, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get much from these .

Dallas & the 2 AFC North games in the cold will determine a lot IMO

by gothicpurple on Jun 1, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

This is why the season opener against you guys is so critical.

I would argue it is critical for both teams.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 1, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure how many tipped us to go 13-3 last season.

Let alone 16-3 world champs. Also who saw the Titans starting 0-8 and the
Steelers losing to the mighty Browns, Chiefs and Raiders. The great thing
about this game is the unexpected things happening.
Are the Saints the only team in both conferences to play 2 Championship games
in the last 3 or 4 years ? Just shows how the wealth is spread around this league.

Where next?

by saint_chew on Jun 3, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey Saints fans

Panthers’ fan here, and I’m not hear to talk about the predicted 5-11 record for my team, no comment on that one.

However, I would enjoy hearing the justification for the Saints to repeat 13-3 without Mike Bell and Scott Fujita.

Seems to me watching the NFC South all these years the major difference the Saints had last season was a running game to support Brees, now without your 2009 leading rusher honestly, I think you guys will still be dominant but the run game will take a serious hit. Is Reggie Bush really ready to step up that much?

You added Alex Brown, which was a great pickup… but I would be surprised if the Saints achieved the same W/L

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by James Dator on Jun 5, 2010 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

“I would enjoy hearing the justification for the Saints to repeat 13-3 without Mike Bell and Scott Fujita.”

The “major difference” was the defense, by a HUGE margin over any other possible reason for our increased success.

Mike Bell was a nice role player, but nothing spectacular. He did fairly well in Denver for the same reason he worked out nicely here… the O-Line. They’ll make his replacement(s) look good too.

Scott Fujita was/is an above average LB, but not irreplaceable. He wasn’t the Julius Peppers of our LB corp. That would be Jonathan Vilma.

(I will admit that I am still concerned about the quality of Scott’s replacement, but the coaches must have seen something in the guys we had b/c they completely ignored the position in the draft and early free agency. I hope either Clint Ingram or Stanley Arnoux becomes the guy we need to replace or even improve on Fujita.)

And, as you mentioned, we got Alex Brown (and a couple of other guys) to replace/improve on Charles Grant.

“I would be surprised if the Saints achieved the same W/L.”

We shocked the world more than once last year, and I’m sure we’re going to surprise more people than just you this coming season.

"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin

by Dan Kelly on Jun 5, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

5-11??

I understand most people don’t have more than a passing familiarity with teams that aren’t their own, so as a Panthers fan I’ll fill you in on some stuff you got wrong.

You’re wrong we did nothing to replace Peppers. The Panthers spent a first round pick last year replacing Peppers with Everette Brown. Brown is in his 2nd year, has added 10 pounds of muscle, and is expected to be a fierce pass rusher. He showed flashes last year. This year, they also drafted pass rushing specialist Eric Norwood, who was the all-time leader in sacks and tackles for a loss at USC. Then, later, they drafted defensive end Greg Hardy, who was projected by Sports Illustrated to be the number 1 overall pick a year ago before injuries continued to plague him. When healthy, experts compare him to … can you guess? Julius Peppers, yes. Check out his CBS sports draft prospects page and a youtube video. That’s 3 draft picks in two years they’ve spent replacing Peppers. However, you can’t fully replace Peppers. He’s a one of a kind player. The best any team can do is try to find a quality starter. Saying we suck ’cause we lost Peppers is like the Union army having a fighter jet that broke down and the Confederacy saying they suck ’cause they did nothing to replace that jet. Peppers was a luxury, not a necessity.

As for the QB thing, Matt Moore pretty much dominated for 5 games against some good teams, but I’ll leave that one alone until he starts a full year. I guess a 5 game fluke is possible, but I wouldn’t count on it. Although, with Clausen and 3 drafted receivers, I’d be worried if I was you folks. The passing game has been the only thing holding the Panthers back for years. If that has been fixed, their offense will be one of the most potent in the league, as evidenced late last year.

Overall though, I just don’t see how you only have us winning 5 games. The NFC South has one of the softest schedules of any division this year. Even if the passing game is still below average, and none of our defensive ends can step up, the Panthers still have one of the top run games, linebacking groups, offensive lines, pass defenses, and of course Steve Smith. How does all that translate into losing 11 games? The Panthers haven’t lost 11 games since they went 1-15 in 2001 with George Seifert as the head coach.

My prediction, the Panthers win the division. The Falcons may do it, but I’m over 70% sure it’ll be the Panthers. No team has ever won back to back NFC South titles, so the Saints definitely won’t. I think you all may be depending too much on turnovers, and it’s about to catch up to you. NFC South anarchy must last forever!

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jun 6, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

No team has ever won back to back NFC South titles, so the Saints definitely won’t.

You were doing okay until here.

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by Jay Preece on Jun 6, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it’s astounding you all believe your defense can carry you again. Turnovers were the only thing that saved you all from a mediocre season. It’s not going to happen every year. Once your defense stops getting so many turnovers, they’ll have to stop teams with their tackling and coverage and that’s clearly going to be a huge challenge for them. Brees will have his work cut out for him, and you folks will slide right back down to 8-8. Chris Harris forced 8 fumbles for us one year, but only got 2 per year the next 2 years I think. It’s unreasonable to expect a high turnover ratio every year.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jun 7, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I most certainly agree with that. Even if you think Gregg Williams is the exception to the rule, how do you explain away his defenses’ historical inconsistencies in maintaining those takeaway numbers throughout? It simply isn’t anything you can rely on. It’s lagniappe, as I’ve said time and again.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jun 7, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand

Being a complete homer and defending your team to the death. I do the same thing myself. It seems to me, that part of the philosophy involved in the 5-11 assessment has to do with some rebuilding that is going on in Carolina. You lose Delhomme, not a trgic loss, but a veteran team leader is now gone. You also lose your defensive general in Peppers, which is a huge blow to your defense. Your “replacements” for Peppers are unproven talent and will take a little time to develop into the starters that they need to be. Moore had quality outings last year, but you are right, he can’t truely be evaluated until he has a full season under his belt. I don’t think Carolina will be a 5 win team, but I don’t see them making the playoffs, much less winning the division.

Now, as far as this statement goes:

“No team has ever won back to back NFC South titles, so the Saints definitely won’t.”

The Saints never had a 13 game win steak, a 13 win season, an NFC Championship, or a Superbowl title until last year, so who is to say that the Saints won’t win the division again this year and break that streak as well? Good luck to your team and let’s get ready for some football.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Jun 7, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jon Beason is our defensive general ...

… not Peppers. Peppers isn’t a leader. He’s too laid back. He was only a defensive captain because he was a veteran and the team wanted to make him feel included after the whole incident where he kept saying he wanted to go to some other team. On the field though, Beason commands the defense.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jun 7, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is this:
You’re banking on 3 guys with less than a full year of games started between them to replace Julius Peppers.
You’re banking on 2 guys with 5 total games started experience to play QB.
You’re banking on an aging Steve Smith and 3 guys who have never played a down in the NFL before(including one who has never played a down ANYWHERE at the WR position) to play well at WR.

Yep, I’d say you’re spot on in your prediction.

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

How did the Skins get that good?

Im all for us being at 8-8. i personally think we will get 10 wins and miss the playoffs, but i understand the logic.
I just dont understand how the Redskins get that big of a turn around. McNabb is good but he doesnt have a line of the same caliber in Washington, and he is to old to be making epic plays with his legs. Plus he still wont have anyone to throw to.

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by Udalango on Jun 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I see big things coming out of Washington. People are going to underestimate them, they have a backfield that, if it was 2006, would scare ANYBODY, and I think Donovan and Mike will make a good team(Not as good as Drew and Sean though)

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 7, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

WTF?????

Now. I don’t know if you started randomly picking numbers or what. I don’t know what kind of research you have done. But I do know that this 5-11 prediction for the Panthers is dead wrong!

Its actually just as simple as abc. We don’t have Jake Delhomme (who does own your lives) anymore. Which means there won’t be 21 give aways this year. 2 game improvement from last years easy. We go from the 2nd hardest schedule to the 26th hardest. Another 2 games you could throw on that. So that would put us atleast at 12-4.

Which isn’t that hard for me to swallow. We lose to Peppers, Ravens, (pains me to say this) split with the Aints, split with the Falcons. We should sweep the Aints though. So color me personally 13-3.

At the very worst we lose the 4 as stated above and then to the Seahawks. And then to Cincy. And the Gmen get revenge. I highly doubt it. But that is worst case scenario…9-7(don’t want to hear it Bacon). Absolute worst case scenario. 9-7.

Now you have us getting swept by y’all yeah? And the Falcons? Splitting with TB? Falling to the 9ers and the Steelers? And the above scenario? No friggin way. Fox has NEVER lost more than 9 games. He isn’t goin to do it with the most talented unit he has ever had the pleasure of coaching.

What everyone knows we do have...Steve Smith! Double Trouble! One of the NFL's BEST OL's! Jon Beas(t)on! Thomas Davis! A top 5 secondary!

What you don't know about our offense... Jarret is finally going to get his chance to shine. Matt Moore is a good QB that protects the ball and can extend a play. Lafell is a fast Moose. Edwards is siiick athletic! He is catching every ball that comes his way. And he has 0 bad habits. And being taught by one of the best in Tolbert. A Very solid rotation at TE. The best FB to come out in the Draft in at least 5 years. And he is a year in the system.

About our D...Everette Brown is 265 lbs. He was created my Ron Meeks, he is the next Freeney. We drafted the next Freeney (yep that makes 2) in ERIC F.(please say the F.) Norwood! He can go around or through blockers. BEAST! He is as sure of a thing as it gets. Charles Johnson has been developing for 3 years and is ready. Louis Leonard is a hippo at 325 with quicks. He will collapse the pocket. Tank Tyler is as strong as his name suggests. Sherrod Martin got 3 INTs in 3 starts...he is now starting FS. Godfrey slides to SS. Lots of speed over the top now! Top 5 secondary just got better!

by Steve785 on Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

If we lose to Peppers and the Bears I’ll quit watching football. There would be no justice in the universe lol.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you think he decided to turn it on against the Vikings to show Allen how its done

Then you just wait till he comes back home in a Bears uniform. He is going to abuse Gross. He knows Gross inside and out. Along with Wharton. He is gonna abuse our OL. And I would say its vice versa. Because Pep doesn’t go hard every week much less every practice.

The only way we win that game is if Fox and Davidson have enough respect for him to run a special scheme to neutralize Pep. And that means 2 TE sets and a back in to block on passing downs. Jeff King meet Julius Peppers he will be raping you all day.

What everyone knows we do have...Steve Smith! Double Trouble! One of the NFL's BEST OL's! Jon Beas(t)on! Thomas Davis! A top 5 secondary!

What you don't know about our offense... Jarret is finally going to get his chance to shine. Matt Moore is a good QB that protects the ball and can extend a play. Lafell is a fast Moose. Edwards is siiick athletic! He is catching every ball that comes his way. And he has 0 bad habits. And being taught by one of the best in Tolbert. A Very solid rotation at TE. The best FB to come out in the Draft in at least 5 years. And he is a year in the system.

About our D...Everette Brown is 265 lbs. He was created my Ron Meeks, he is the next Freeney. We drafted the next Freeney (yep that makes 2) in ERIC F.(please say the F.) Norwood! He can go around or through blockers. BEAST! He is as sure of a thing as it gets. Charles Johnson has been developing for 3 years and is ready. Louis Leonard is a hippo at 325 with quicks. He will collapse the pocket. Tank Tyler is as strong as his name suggests. Sherrod Martin got 3 INTs in 3 starts...he is now starting FS. Godfrey slides to SS. Lots of speed over the top now! Top 5 secondary just got better!

by Steve785 on Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldn't* say it's vice versa

Ugh

What everyone knows we do have...Steve Smith! Double Trouble! One of the NFL's BEST OL's! Jon Beas(t)on! Thomas Davis! A top 5 secondary!

What you don't know about our offense... Jarret is finally going to get his chance to shine. Matt Moore is a good QB that protects the ball and can extend a play. Lafell is a fast Moose. Edwards is siiick athletic! He is catching every ball that comes his way. And he has 0 bad habits. And being taught by one of the best in Tolbert. A Very solid rotation at TE. The best FB to come out in the Draft in at least 5 years. And he is a year in the system.

About our D...Everette Brown is 265 lbs. He was created my Ron Meeks, he is the next Freeney. We drafted the next Freeney (yep that makes 2) in ERIC F.(please say the F.) Norwood! He can go around or through blockers. BEAST! He is as sure of a thing as it gets. Charles Johnson has been developing for 3 years and is ready. Louis Leonard is a hippo at 325 with quicks. He will collapse the pocket. Tank Tyler is as strong as his name suggests. Sherrod Martin got 3 INTs in 3 starts...he is now starting FS. Godfrey slides to SS. Lots of speed over the top now! Top 5 secondary just got better!

by Steve785 on Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Peppers doesn’t have the endurance to dominate a whole game. He might have one or two stellar plays where he causes a fumble or gets a sack, but that’s it. Our offensive line knows all of Panther nation is looking to them in that game. They won’t let us down. I don’t think Peppers does anything.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jun 7, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesnt have the endurance??

Julius Peppers does not get tired. He doesn’t even poop. The man isn’t a man at all. He is a (lazy) magical beast.

If he decides to flip the switch then he does. If we keep double teaming him and chippin him then he will get frustrated and tire. But it will take a nice scheme and great technique. Underestimate him if you would like…I just hope our players and staff don’t do the same.

Remember this is only 1 game not 16 or the playoffs. He will show up dude.

What everyone knows we do have...Steve Smith! Double Trouble! One of the NFL's BEST OL's! Jon Beas(t)on! Thomas Davis! A top 5 secondary!

What you don't know about our offense... Jarret is finally going to get his chance to shine. Matt Moore is a good QB that protects the ball and can extend a play. Lafell is a fast Moose. Edwards is siiick athletic! He is catching every ball that comes his way. And he has 0 bad habits. And being taught by one of the best in Tolbert. A Very solid rotation at TE. The best FB to come out in the Draft in at least 5 years. And he is a year in the system.

About our D...Everette Brown is 265 lbs. He was created my Ron Meeks, he is the next Freeney. We drafted the next Freeney (yep that makes 2) in ERIC F.(please say the F.) Norwood! He can go around or through blockers. BEAST! He is as sure of a thing as it gets. Charles Johnson has been developing for 3 years and is ready. Louis Leonard is a hippo at 325 with quicks. He will collapse the pocket. Tank Tyler is as strong as his name suggests. Sherrod Martin got 3 INTs in 3 starts...he is now starting FS. Godfrey slides to SS. Lots of speed over the top now! Top 5 secondary just got better!

by Steve785 on Jun 7, 2010 9:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

BTW..

You guys do know you should have been swept last year right? I know some of y’all are gonna get sour but honestly…we were down by 3 and approaching the 2 min warning in the 4th. We have the ball out by mid field. Jake the bum throws 3 friggin imcomplete passes in a row and turns the ball over on downs. Now I dunno if it was him or our retard OC that went with those 3 plays but it was stupid. You give Double Trouble 4 attempts at 10 yards and they will get it. I guess they wanted to push the ball up to around the 30 real quick.

Whatever…you guys get the ball and go 3 and out real quick…and then the most beautiful punt I have ever seen! Ball goes out at the 1! Then… then we run the ball!!! And Deangelo fumbles for the first time in like 300 carries. You guys recover for a TD. Without the timeouts and under 2 mins, this was an insurmountable lead.

Your team know they got out of their lucky…because it was business as usual at the Super Dome for the Panthers. I wouldn’t be confident at all if I were y’all. SB or not. Panthers own the Aints. It will be a long time before its even.

And that last game last year…you guys were playing our B and C squad as well.

What everyone knows we do have...Steve Smith! Double Trouble! One of the NFL's BEST OL's! Jon Beas(t)on! Thomas Davis! A top 5 secondary!

What you don't know about our offense... Jarret is finally going to get his chance to shine. Matt Moore is a good QB that protects the ball and can extend a play. Lafell is a fast Moose. Edwards is siiick athletic! He is catching every ball that comes his way. And he has 0 bad habits. And being taught by one of the best in Tolbert. A Very solid rotation at TE. The best FB to come out in the Draft in at least 5 years. And he is a year in the system.

About our D...Everette Brown is 265 lbs. He was created my Ron Meeks, he is the next Freeney. We drafted the next Freeney (yep that makes 2) in ERIC F.(please say the F.) Norwood! He can go around or through blockers. BEAST! He is as sure of a thing as it gets. Charles Johnson has been developing for 3 years and is ready. Louis Leonard is a hippo at 325 with quicks. He will collapse the pocket. Tank Tyler is as strong as his name suggests. Sherrod Martin got 3 INTs in 3 starts...he is now starting FS. Godfrey slides to SS. Lots of speed over the top now! Top 5 secondary just got better!

by Steve785 on Jun 7, 2010 7:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

“And Deangelo fumbles for the first time in like 300 carries. You guys recover for a TD.”

The guy that recovered the fumble, CAUSED the fumble. It’s wasn’t a gift. It wasn’t a mistake on Williams’ part.

HARGROVE TOOK IT!

"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin

by Dan Kelly on Jun 7, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea saints fans

If we had played a perfect game and Kolb Threw 1000 yards for 1000 touchdowns you would have lost.

Im sorry but thats such dumb logic. If the refs screwed up then sure it works to say they should have lost but you team didnt perform well enough to score thats ridiculous

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Jun 7, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your team know they got out of their lucky

are the viqueen fans cheering for the panthers now too?

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what makes them the biggest guys on the field."-John Madden

by Alex Swift on Jun 8, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

love it

i think the texans are gonna give the colts a push

deedy baby

by Deedy on Jun 10, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Forgot to keep up with this thread

Wish I hadn’t remembered to read it.

Apart from another epic Dan/CP road-to-nowhere argument.

If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.

by Jay Preece on Jun 12, 2010 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

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