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Are the Atlanta Falcons really better than the Saints this season?

Several people within various media outlets are saying the Saints biggest threat within the NFC South will be the Falcons.  My intent of this post is to compare the two teams as closely as possible in regards to scheduling, time off between games, and difference in opponents. I am going to start with week one ending with the conclusion of week 7 for this first duration.

Falcons' schedule

Week

Saints' schedule

  • 1. Vs Vikings
  • 2. At 49ers
  • 3. Vs Falcons
  • 4. Vs Panthers
  • 5. At Cardinals
  • 6. At Bucs
  • 7. Vs Browns
  • 8. Vs Steelers
  • 9. At Panthers
  • 10. Bye
  • 11. Vs Seahawks
  • 12. At Cowboys
  • 13. At Bengals
  • 14. Vs Rams
  • 15. At Ravens
  • 16. At Falcons
  • 17. Vs Bucs

Week 1

The very first thing that I notice is the opponents that each team faces.  Both teams face the same opponents except for one game.  The first game that comes to mind has to be the first week matchups between both organizations. 

Falcons at the Steelers Analysis: 

Yes Big Ben is not playing due to his own stupidity.  The one person that we are forgetting about is Troy Polamalu.  For years the Steelers have built their dynasty around defense.  With Polamalu receiving a season ending injury, greatly hurt the Steelers defense. Without Polamalu they were able to have a 20th ranked defense in total points allowed.  Their second worst defensive category was against the pass, which ranked them at 16.  Polamalu is the heart of the Steelers passing defense.  When he gets back in the game both stats should decrease.  In addition this is the first game of the season, and the first game he will be back.  The Steelers also have good depth at QB.  Big Ben's absence will not even compare to Polamalu's return.

Prediction Steelers Falcons win 20-17

Vikings at the Saints Analysis:

First and foremost if Bret Farve does not return, the Vikings do not stand a chance. Secondly, if he does return this turns into a bloody grudge match.  Yes, there will be blood.  Both offensive lines are good, but ours is better.  The key to this game will rest on the shoulders of Bushrod. HIs ability or inability to contain Jarred Allen is critical to the game's outcome.  This is just one matchup though and not an entire category.  The Vikings running attack took a hit with the loss of Chester Taylor.  As a replacement to this hole they hope Gerheart can fill the void.  In retrospect the Saints rushing defense has improved this offseason, with the acquisition of Alex Smith, and J. Wilkerson.  The Saints rushing attack has changed with the loss of Mike Bell, but this is the first game of the season, and Pierre Thomas should be healthy, thus the presence of Mike Bell does not play that much of a factor during this game.

The Defense for the Vikings is pretty stout, in comparison to the Saints.  But in comparison to the Saints offense the Vikings lack one significant factor. That is a secondary to contain the Saints wide receivers.  The Vikings were hoping that they would be able to acquire Patrick Robinson but they were not able to.  Score one for Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis.  The Vikings secondary has received no upgrade from the offseason. Look for the Vikings to create mismatches with our new linebackers. 

Prediction: Saints win 27 to 24.

Week 2

Falcons Vs. The Cardinals analysis:

Kurt Warner has retired from the NFL.  The QB corps of the Cardinals is mediocre at best .The secondary of the Cardinals is subpar. The Cardinals have lost Anquan Boldin who is a solid WR.  However the presence of Larry Fitzgerald cannot be ignored.   This will also be the season opener at home for the Falcons.  The Falcons have significantly upgraded their secondary with the acquisition of CB Dunta Robinson.  Look for these two players to match up with one another during the game.  I will not be surprised to see the Cardinals focus more on their rushing attack in comparison to their passing game. B. Wells had a decent season as a rookie.  Tim Hightower is solid at this position as well.  However Michael Turner is a beast, when he is healthy.  The Falcons overall are the better team with the passing game, rushing game and overall secondary.

Prediction: Falcons win 24-17 

Saints at 49ers analysis:

The 49ers have significantly upgraded their offensive line with two 1st round draft picks, Anthony Davis, and Mike Lupati.  In addition they have bolstered their secondary by drafting Taylor Mays at the FS position.  The defense, yes the defense of the 49ers is quite impressive.  They were 4th overall in points allowed category.  In addition, they are 6th in the league against the rushing attack.  However, their pass defense is ranked 21st overall.  The 49ers are in the easiest NFC division.  Do not let the 21st ranked passing defense fool you.  The only decent QB last year in that division was Kurt Warner.  If they were in any other division their passing defense would be even worse. Look for Drew Brees to shred the 49ers secondary.  The 49ers do have the overrated Michael Crabtree, but he does not have anything on Tracy Porter or Jabari Greer. The Saints also have a longer week to prepare for the 49ers.  The 49ers LB corps is extremely talented, with is most likely why they have a 6th rank defense vs. the run.

Prediction: Saints win 31- 24

Week 3 Falcons at the Saints.

As we all know the Falcons and the Saints matchup fairly well.  The games are always close, most of our decided in the latter half of the 4th quarter.  Matt Ryan has matured significantly.  I would look for the Falcons to run their no huddle offense for several durations.  The biggest matchup to consider will be our defensive line vs. Michael Turner.  Turner had an injury free season in 2008 and managed 1700 yards (nfl.com).  Keep in mind that the Saints have bolstered their rushing defense as well.  As we all know the NFC is a heavy running division.  I would actually give the Falcons the edge in this category.  Both teams know each other especially well.  The key to this game lies on attacking early and forcing the Falcons to pass the ball more so than utilizing their rushing game.  Special teams will most likely be the deciding factor within this game.  I believe the Saints are superior in this category with Morstead's punting abilities, along with Hartley's accuracy.  In addition home field advantage cannot be over stated during a divisional game. I do not believe that the Saints can sweep the Falcons 2 years in a row.  The Saints will also be coming off of a short week playing at the 49ers on their own turf.  The Falcons in retrospect will have a full week off and a home game before challenging the super bowl champs. 

Prediction: Saints win 27-24

Week 4

 Falcons Vs 49ers analysis:

I also look forward to this game.  I do not believe it will be a blow out on either end.  The Falcons will be coming from the New Orleans game tired giving their all.  I believe these two teams will match up nicely.  I would not be surprised if these two teams meet again in the playoffs during the wild card round.  Atlanta offense in 2009 was ranked 16th, compared to the 49ers 27th.  The 49ers should be more effective this year due to the addition of Lupati and Davis on their offensive line, but not too much. The 49ers have a 15th ranked defense that specializes in rushing.  Their average rushing defense held teams to under 100ypg.  This ranks their rushing defense an impressive 6th overall, with an average of 17 points allowed which corresponds with a 4th overall in the NFL.  This puts the 49ers defensively in the same category as the Vikings Steelers or the Ravens picture.

Prediction Falcons win 20-17

Saints vs. Panthers analysis:

This is also going to be a good matchup.  The saints will be coming off of a tough game vs. the Falcons, and maybe be a little beat up due to the defensive teams they have met so far in the season.  Both teams will have an entire week to prepare.  Interesting enough is the Panthers back to back home games in weeks 2-3.  I would not be surprised if the Panthers have a 3-0 record at this time.  At the very least they should have a 2-1 record when they face off against the Saints in the Superdome.  Like with the Falcons, the main thing to worry about with the Panthers is their rushing attack.  I know it sounds like a broken record, but the Achilles heel to the New Orlean Saints is the ability or inability to stop their opponents rushing attack.  The Panthers last season had an extraordinary rushing attack that was ranked number 3 in the entire NFL.  Their defense specializes against total yards allowed ranked respectively at number 4 overall.  The panthers have also drafted Jimmy Clausen as potential franchise QB.  He will be competing with Matt Moore a 4 year NFL veteran.  I believe that the physicality of the Panthers will play a role in this game.  Likewise with Falcons game the Saints will have to strike hard and fast.

Prediction Panthers win 24-21

Week 5

Falcons at the Browns

The Falcons get the privilege of facing off against one of their previous NFC south QB rivals. Jake interception Delhomme.  The Browns were nice enough to entice LB Scott Fujita with a multi-million dollar contract.  The only thing remotely impressive about the Browns is their rushing attack, which somehow gained an average of 138ypg.  The Browns this offseason have attempted to boost up their secondary by drafting CB Joe Haden and FS T.J Ward.  They also landed Jimmy Clausen who might be the new face of the Browns' franchise, and even starting for them depending on how many interceptions Delhomme throws in the first 4 games.  Also, the Browns, week 3-4 matchups come from division rivals, with week 3 taking on the Ravens away, and week four taking on Carson Palmer's Bengals. The offensive side of the Browns is too horrible to mention, so I will not.  Expect the Falcons to shine brilliant on offense and defense.

Prediction: Falcons win 28-10

Saints at the Cardinals analysis:

What can I say about this matchup?  Without Kurt Warner, the Cardinals do not stand a chance.  Yes I said it.  The Saints shredded the Cardinals defense in half last post season.  I see no reason for this to change.  Statistically this is match made in heaven for the Saints.  However, you can never leave out Tim Hightower, Bennie Wells and Larry Fitzgerald.  I will look for a similar matchup on Fitzgerald this time around as in the post season.  I do not think Fitzgerald will remain scoreless this matchup compared to last years.  He has become the go to guy with the loss of Anquan Boldin.  If the Saints are healthy at this point in the season I see no problem with giving them the win.  Drew Brees will have his way with the Cardinals' secondary.  Enough said.

Prediction: Saints win 38-20

Week 6

Falcons at Eagles analysis:

The Eagles have lost Mcnabb, but I do not think it is as a significant blow as everyone had made it out to be.  I believe Kevin Kobb can and will be an excellent quarterback.  The games last season in which he filled to role for Donavan Mcnabb, he did beautifully.  Hopefully the Eagles have learned their lesson on NOT running the wildcat.  Schedule wise the Eagles are coming from an away game against a defensive 49ers. The Falcons are coming off of their away game vs. the Browns.  Look for the Falcons to play with a lot of confidence at this point at the season. Defensively the Eagles last season had a rushing defense that equates to 9th overall, averaging 105 ypg.  In addition to being the number 12 team with total yards equating an average of 321ypg.  By this time I believe Kevin Kobb will have his feet wet enough.  Look for Philly in an upset.

Prediction: Eagles win 27-24

Saints at the Bucs analysis:

This makes the 3rd divisional game in 4 weeks.  Unfortunate for the Bucs they get to enjoy their bye week on week four.  Week five gives them a fairly good challenge with an away game at the Bengals.  This marks the second away game for the Saints.  During the offseason the Bucs were able to address several positions of concern, especially their defensive line.  Gearld McCoy, the second best DT in the draft will make an immediate impact.  In addition the Bucs were also able to draft Brian Price in the 2nd round.  They also were able to get a second 2nd round pick with Arrelious Benn.  They also have Cadillac Williams running the show for the last two seasons.  Williams's seasonal production is statistically similar to our own Pierre Thomas.  Josh Freeman heads the QB position will little NFL experience.  Statistically the Saints clearly beat the Bucs, but it hardly the scenario when these two teams matchup.  Personally I like this matchup more so than against the Falcons or the Panthers.  The receiver corps that the Saints have coupled with great secondary will keeps the Bucs at bay. 

Prediction: Saints win 27-17

Week 7

Falcons vs. Bengals analysis:

Schedule wise this is a home game for the falcons following a two game road trip.  The Bengals get to have their bye on week six.  The Bengals will have an additional week to prepare for this matchup.  One of the more interesting moves by the Bengals this offseason involves the acquisition of "Pacman" Adam Jones.  He was once solid at his CB position, and it will be interesting to see what type of contributions he may have for the team.  The Bengals have also drafted the number 1 tight end Jermaine Gresham.  This will give Carson Palmer a middle man he can throw to, which was one of the number one needs for this Bengal team.  They were also able to take defensive end Carlos Dunlap, who is known as a beast in his collegiate career.   The most impressive category within the Bengals is their defense.  Last year the Bengals were 7th against the rush, 6th against the pass, 6th in total yards against.  In addition, this impressive defensive unit ranked 4th in average YPG.  This has the making of a great potential game between the two organizations. You might say I forgot to mention Chad oh no I change my name again Cinco.  He could potentially be a factor, but I believe he is extremely overrated and a diva.

Prediction: Bengals Win 28-21

Saints vs. Browns analysis:

The Saints get to face off against two of their previous players, QB Jake Delhomme, and LB Scott Fujita. Schedule wise, the Saints are coming off of a two game road trip.  The Browns, have decided to upgrade their secondary with the acquisition of Safety Taylor Mays, and CB Joe Haden.  Neither of these two CB will able to compete with the accuracy of Drew Brees and his wide receivers.  This should be a matchup in favor of the Saints.  Defensively the Browns are horrible.  Offensively the Browns are not so good too, but they do possess a decent rushing attack.  If the Saints can shut down their rushing attack, this will turn into a very long game for Browns fans.

Prediction: Saints 38 Browns 10.

Falcons Week 1-7 record 3-4 4-3

Saints Week 1-7 record 6-1

There it is ladies and gentlemen.  The Falcons have a bye for the 8th week, whereas the Saints are taking on the Steelers + Big Ben (maybe).  I will pick this up later on the week.  Feel free to comment and make suggestions on how the first 7 weeks will play out.  I might post this on the Falcons' SB nation site to see what they think of this analysis.

Poll
What do you think the Falcons and Saints overall record will be at the conclusion of week 7?
Exactly how you wrote it
19 votes
The Saints up by two wins
85 votes
Both are equal
7 votes
Falcons up by one win
2 votes
Falcons up by two wins
6 votes
other
12 votes

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You may just want to go back and redo something
Prediction Steelers win 20-17
Prediction: Falcons win 24-17
Prediction: Saints win 27-24
Prediction 49ers win 20-17
Prediction: Falcons win 28-10
Prediction: Eagles win 27-24
Prediction: Bengals Win 28-21

I count the Falcons record as 2-5. Not trying to be an ass btw, just trying to help you out. Otherwise I think its a great write up and the Falcons have a great chance at 10-6 record if they can avoid key injuries.

by Jon Banks on Jun 27, 2010 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

i will look at it Thanks

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 27, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, I meant to put the Falcons as the winner of the 49ers matchup.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 27, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s a lot of analysis. Good job.

Gonna get inside your bitter mind

by stujo4 on Jun 27, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I do not know how accurate they will be when it is time.

In addition cold pizza and jeff seem to have gone to bed already.

At least I did not make the list.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 27, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Thought

Making the list was a good thing.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Jun 27, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

If you enjoy being held accountable for your misadventures in carelessly popping off, it’s fantastic.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see the Falcons at around 4-3

They have some toss up games against the Eagles and Steelers. The Bengal game could be close but I still think they lose that one.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Jun 28, 2010 12:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Why is our offense suddenly "anemic"?

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by bondcrash on Jun 28, 2010 12:46 AM CDT reply actions  

What part are you refering to?

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Falcons, Vikings and Panther games will more than likely not be a blowout.

Usually they are decided by less than a touchdown. As much as i would love to see the Saints blow them away, reality dictates differently. The next closest game would be the 49ers, with the Saints being 7 point favorites. Of the remaining games the Saints pull off the win by at least 10 points. They beat the Cardinals by 18 points, Bucs by 10 points, and the Browns a staggering 28 points. The summation of the Saints score up until week eight will total 209 total points scored in 7 weeks. This comes to an average of 29.8 points per game. This would also give them a point difference of +66 the first 7 games, with an average points against averaging into 20.4 per game.

Without allowing too much biased opinion i felt like this was a more conseravitive approach. This reflects the offense doing their job, along with a defensive improvement.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

They would average less than 30 points per game over that period. I think if any they could imprve the 36pg they had last year – barring injuries

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by bondcrash on Jun 28, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks right to me

I think the falcons are in for ANOTHER fall off, not the panthers.

by jray2000 on Jun 28, 2010 1:42 AM CDT reply actions  

You’re already on the list, jray. You panter lover.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish....

You never wrote that list!!!!!

by jray2000 on Jun 28, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well I’m a glutton for punishment. I consider it more likely for the Falcons to have a losing record than for the Panthers to have the same.

by FriarBob on Jun 28, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Panter lover

List entry!!!!!!!!

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I don’t love — or even like — the punkthers one bit. I just think they’re better than Atlanta no matter who their QB ends up being.

by FriarBob on Jun 28, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No need to beat a dead horse, panter lover.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saints are a better team

1) most significant matchup – Drew Brees vs Matt Ryan. Brees is the real deal working with a multitude of receivers (and not just wideouts) who he is totally in sync with as well as a system he is great at. We are the deepest team in the league at receiver. Matt Ryan is a star waiting to be- it could be this year, next or never. Brees has already arrived.
2) not to be redundant- receivers – Atlanta has a good receiving corps- not a GREAT corps.
3) FB- Evans is one of the best in the league and Peyton will use him especially on defenses that do a good job (rarely) of containing Colston, Shockey, Bush, PT, Henderson, Moore, Harper, Arrington, et al- just too much firepower
4) Defense- all our defense has to do is keep opponents below 30 pts. We can do that. We will do much better than that often.
5) Coaching Staff- I would put this staff up against any staff based on the last few few years especially since the only real weak link was our previous DC and he is long gone.

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by Philinwood on Jun 28, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

“FB- Evans is one of the best in the league”

^ Crazy talk.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a pass catcher, no.

As a true FB, yes.

by FriarBob on Jun 28, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t view him as an improvement over Karney in either area. And Karney isn’t in my Top 10.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

he made two very athletic td's that i dont think karney was capable of

before he got hurt. which, in my mind, is his biggest fault.

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by DrewBreesManCrush on Jun 28, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Orly?

Well, I don’t think Heath Evans is capable of scoring three TDs in a nationally televised game. Only certain FBs can handle the mental pressure associated with primetime play, even if the runs are only from a yard out.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

In general terms...

Almost all the pre-season Falcons hype is based on the assumption that Matt Ryan is going to have a breakout year. I see no evidence for that.

Ranked by passer rating, Ryan was the 11th-best quarterback in 2008. But last year he took a sophomore pratfall, dropping to 20th. He was sandwiched between Alex Smith and Jay Cutler, and I think that’s pretty much where he belongs: a quarterback who will have an occasional elite-level game, but will spend most of his time bobbing around in the middle of the pack.

At this point, I know someone will be thinking: Drew Brees came back from a sophomore slump, big time. True: but he’s Drew Brees. He’s currently the best quarterback in the league, and—I’m convinced—a future Hall of Famer. What he’s accomplished since that sophomore season isn’t something that happens very often. That it’s been done indicates that it’s possible, so of course Ryan may do the same thing; but that it’s been done before isn’t the reason Ryan will do the same thing, and it’s foolish to think so. If anyone sees something in Ryan to suggest that he’s the next Brees, I’d sure like to know what it is.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's not a very objective analysis, you'd be a terrible scout

I’m no Falcons fan, but I know my enemies and I give them credit where it’s due.

bobbing around in the middle of the pack.

Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton, David Garrard? Child please.

I’m defining “breakout year” as career best in TD passes and passing yards. And YOU are on the list.

By the way, Cutler is primed for a breakout year as well. Alex Smith? He’ll need some Jesus1000 help and he’s busy with Detroit.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Cutler is primed for a breakout year"

Grudge list, my friend. When Chicago finishes last in the NFC North, we’ll revisit this.

Now, back to Matt Ryan. His career passer rating—so far—is 84.3. Jason Campbell’s is 82.3, Kyle Orton’s, 76.9, and David Garrard’s, 84.9. All of them in pretty much the same ballpark. Alex Smith’s is pretty dismal…but last year he was better than Ryan, as were all of these quarterbacks. I’m not sure what can be more objective than actual stats, so tell me: why will Ryan have a breakout year? For that matter, why will Cutler have one? Objectively speaking, of course.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stopped reading here:

His career passer rating
Why do you waste your time with this crap? It’s been widely discredited as misleading and only of value in specific comparisons. Just because there is nothing better as a widesweeping comparison metric doesn’t mean that it’s good.

I’d like to see Drew Brees play on a bad team with no blocking and crappy receivers. We’d see how big a hero is is then.

Ryan is a smart kid with a nice touch. He’s set to blow up big time.
Rotoworld.com:

The Falcons are increasing their no-huddle repertoire from 10-12 plays to about 30. Matt Ryan has a better handle on the offense, can better read opposing defenses, and now knows when to attack, so the Falcons are giving him more responsibility. Somewhat of a post-hype candidate this season, Ryan is a good bet to increase his numbers across the board.
Matt Ryan said that the Falcons have been focusing on their deep passing attack during OTAs. Ryan ranked just 23rd in the league last season with 31 completions of 20+ yards. With both Ryan and Roddy White now 100 percent, the vertical attack will naturally improve. Ryan is a prime bounce-back candidate with upside.
Matt Ryan will have no limitations from his late-season turf-toe injury in offseason workouts. Consider him 100 percent recovered. In what was considered a disappointing season, Ryan still increased his touchdown and pass attempts numbers despite missing two games. Expected further progression in his third season.
Ryan will be 100 percent well before the season, which keeps him as one of our favorite bounce-back candidates for 2010. He’ll be helped by the expected to return of slot WR Harry Douglas.
Falcons assistant head coach/quarterbacks Bill Musgrave attributes Matt Ryan’s mid-season slump to “nagging injuries” in both his upper and lower body. “He worked through them and he finished strong,” said Musgrave, who expects play-caller Mike Mularkey to “attack and exploit” defenses through the air in 2010. Ryan is a fine bounce-back candidate and an ideal “buy” in Dynasty leagues this offseason.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

“The Falcons are increasing their no-huddle repertoire from 10-12 plays to about 30. Matt Ryan has a better handle on the offense, can better read opposing defenses, and now knows when to attack, so the Falcons are giving him more responsibility. Somewhat of a post-hype candidate this season, Ryan is a good bet to increase his numbers across the board.

I love how they address this no huddle frequency increase. Matt Ryan is only one person. He has 10 other members of his team that need to memorize these no huddle calls as well. All it takes is one blocker to mess up or a reciever to run a route that is off to create a disaster for them. The tacticts of a no huddle offense not only affects the other defense, but also affects the offense running it.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still trying to to figure out the block quote.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. paste your text into the box.
2. highlight it all
3. click the blockquote button

< blockquote >YOUR TEXT SHOULD BE HERE< /blockquote >

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 28, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The other 9 already had the calls memorized.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did not know that.

Still, it would take the confusion of one player to potentially derail that offensive style of play.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like how you assume adding the no huddle will mean it will improve their offense.

That’s like saying that just because you added us to your “accountability index” we’re guaranteed to be wrong. I’ll admit it’s likely, but it’s by no means guaranteed.

To have the extra no huddle help them out, not only do they have to learn the plays, everybody has to be on the same page (as jeremysherwin points out), and then on top of that they have to execute. If they go three-and-out on an attempt at no-huddle it actually becomes a MASSIVE backfire.

by FriarBob on Jun 28, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

it’s by no means guaranteed.

No guarantees. But I’m 1 for 1 on the list, to date.

Of course you are correct. If their no huddle scheme fails in practice, and fails every time they try it in game situations, they will obviously bear down and continue to run it throughout 2010 and end up below .500 for the year, as you have predicted.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

hah. You are funny. Your skill at exaggeration is infinitely greater than my own… or at least close.

But it only has to fail ONCE for it to be a massive backfire that might well cost them a game you were expecting them to win. Two or three times at inopportune moments and one or two other bad bounces of the ball and they could easily end up 6-10 and you’re going “how did I not see this coming?”

by FriarBob on Jun 28, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think their season hinges on how well they run the no-huddle. If they run it the same way they did last year, they’re still better. Read the other 4 points.

War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate.

by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boy, did this inspire a lot of bandwidth use

Okay, where to start. Career passer rating has been “widely discredited as misleading and only of value in specific comparisons.” By Rotoworld, I guess. So…was this not a specific comparison? I specifically compared Ryan to four other quarterbacks. Not specific enough? Okay, I compared them on Monday.

Here are a few quarterbacks, ranked according to their career passer ratings:

Peyton Manning, 95.2
Tom Brady, 93.3
Drew Brees, 91.9
Donovan McNabb, 86.5
Matt Hasselbeck, 83.3
Jason Campbell, 82.3
Eli Manning, 79.2
Kyle Orton, 76.9
Alex Smith, 69.2

Do you have any serious objections to that order? Because it seems, in broad strokes, to be pretty accurate to me.

And as far as Mike Martz goes, two words: Detroit Lions. Or, to paraphrase further, “I’d like to see Mike Martz coach on a bad team with no blocking and crappy receivers. We’d see how big a hero is is then.”

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Brandon Pettigrew and Tony Scheffler now rate as a crappy receiving corps? Umm……k.

by jeff.l.b on Jun 28, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martz doesn’t coach at Detroit anymore (not that he got much done, there). He’s with Chicago. You know, Devin Aromashodu, Rashied Davis, Earl Bennett, etc.

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by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

they are good, that's all- good- nothing better. didn't say they were crappy

they will scare zero DBs in the NFL.

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by Philinwood on Jun 29, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Philip Rivers’ and Tony Romo’s career passer ratings are higher than Joe Montana’s, Tom Brady’s, Kurt Warner’s, and Peyton Manning’s?

Nice tool you've got there. Really shines a light on things.

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by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

As far as Cutler goes, two words: Mike Martz

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by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just asking...

Will Mike Martz improve his horrible interception tendencies?

And, will Mike also be playing WR? I guess that would make their WR corp worse… so, who is he going to bring in a WR? (I actually see TO as a good choice for them.)

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 28, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drew Brees career passer rating after starting for 2 full seasons was 72.5.

I threw out his first year rating, (94) because it was for 1 game.

Matt Ryan will be a thorn in the Saints side for the next 10 years. He is a player ascending in a hurry. Brees may be better but Mat will be a top tier QB for a while and will be a guy that wins his fair share against the Saints.

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by squidlo97 on Jun 29, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

"He is a player ascending in a hurry..."

What evidence do you see for this?

Yeah, Brees wasn’t a world-beater after two years, either. He was ascending in such a hurry that the Chargers drafted Eli Manning. No one predicted what happened next…precisely because it is so rare. So what makes you believe that Ryan has shown himself to be a top-tier quarterback of the future, as of now?

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan started all 16 games in his rookie year, threw for 3440 yards and 16 TD’s. Threw 22 TD’s in his second year, in 14 games (injured).

That’s steaming hot ascension. Not top tier, too soon to call that. But plenty of teams would like for him to start for them. Just not the Saints.

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by stujo4 on Jun 29, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

precisely because it is so rare. So what makes you believe that Ryan has shown himself to be a top-tier quarterback of the future, as of now?

Let’s put it this way, M-E…You’re right, it is rare. But someone has to be a breakout quarterback. That’s what I like to call The Circle of Life in the NFL. Matt Ryan is the leading contender to do so. Make sense?

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by Dave Cariello on Jun 29, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it doesn't

“…someone has to be a breakout quarterback.” This is simply not true. Every quarterback currently in the NFL could play at practically the same level next season as he did in 2009 (barring the rookies, of course). It’s just as likely for that to happen as for someone to radically elevate his game.There is no reason at all why someone must have a breakout season, let alone why that someone must be Matt Ryan.

And as far as “leading contenders” go…the Saints were a “leading contender” to win the Super Bowl…in 2007. It didn’t happen quite that way.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Every quarterback currently in the NFL could play at practically the same level next season as he did in 2009 (barring the rookies, of course).”

And if they did … and if what we consider to be the elite QBs of today were out of the equation … the two or three that were being advertised as the next best things would be considered the new elite QBs in the league. Elite doesn’t necessarily mean “great”. It’s a relative term based on peer performance.

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by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of like, "It depends on what your definition of "is" is."

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jun 30, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, here's the thing

I think Matt Ryan is going to play at an elevated level in 2010. The odds favor it because he’s healthy (unlike last year), the line is healthier and deeper (unlike last year), and the Falcons don’t have to lean on him as heavily (Michael Turner’s back). Also, in less concrete terms, he’s not in his dreaded sophomore campaign and has another year to mature.

Put it this way: It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see Ryan post about a 60% completion rate, 25 TDs and 12 INTs. That’s not leaps and bounds better and it’s not elite, but it’s enough to put him in the conversation for one of the better quarterbacks in the league. That’s about all I’m willing to raise my hopes for at this point.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 30, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’d say that’s a fair estimate of how his numbers should shape up

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by Alex Swift on Jun 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

And he’s got Harry Douglas back.

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by stujo4 on Jun 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is simply not true. Every quarterback currently in the NFL could play at practically the same level next season as he did in 2009

From a statistical, mathematical standpoint, you are right. But it just doesn’t work like that.

Again, it’s the Circle of NFL Life. Every year there will always be players that disappoint and don’t live up to expectations. There will always be players that surprise and exceed expectations. There will be at least one 2009 playoff team that doesn’t return the following year. There will be a team that winds up sucking, simply because injuries decimate their roster. Certain players will get arrested for doing something stupid. Some first round pick will hold out through training camp.

It’s all inevitable. Does it HAVE to happen? No. But it will. That’s just the way it is. And there WILL be a quarterback that we will all deem has a “breakout” year. Sorry, it’s just the truth. Right now, my money is on Matt Ryan.

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by Dave Cariello on Jun 30, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I had the money to bet

I would take you up on that. I am not saying Ryan will suck this upcoming year, but as far as a breakout QB goes, I would have to place the dollar bill on Flacco. His receiving corps has definitely improved over last year. Also look out for Romo. Statistically he wasn’t as bad as Cowboy fans think he was, but he really only had one receiver and one of the best TE’s in the game as choices. I feel he will improve more this year than Ryan will. He has a viable option besides Austin. I know that Bryant is an unproven rookie, but compared to Williams and the inconsistent Crayton, Romo will have a better year than last year.

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by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 2, 2010 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know who else has a chance?

Jake the Snake Delhomme - breathing new life into his career in CLEVELAND

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by Hans Petersen on Jul 3, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

The new sarcasm font seems to be working out well.

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by coldpizza on Jul 5, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if someone has said this yet, but...

Usually, when a player has a “breakout season”, it’s not just because they got better all by themselves.

Usually, something/someone new is added to the picture.

Our defense had a breakout season last year (in my opinion) – new factors were Gregg Williams and Darren Sharper

Tom Brady had a breakout season 3 seasons ago when he threw 50 TD’s – new factors were Randy Moss and Wes Welker both signed with the Patriots that year.

If I were to guess at which QB’s will “break out” next year, I’d guess Sanchez (after the first 5 games) and Flacco – with the additions of Holmes and Boldin… Maybe Chad Henne b/c of Marshall… Maybe even Alex Smith with the full-time practice of Crabtree.

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I don’t know the answer, that’s why I’m asking…

Did Atlanta add any such weapons THIS offseason?

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 29, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

PS.

I forgot about Greer. He was another big addition that helped our defense ‘break out’.

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 30, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boom rec!

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by Philinwood on Jun 28, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

he assumption that Matt Ryan is going to have a breakout year. I see no evidence for that.

Really? He’s pretty good. Stu, please add this comment to the list.

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by Dave Cariello on Jun 28, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Done and done.

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by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Definition of a breakout year is extremly subjective.

If we will use Stu’s indepth definition, then I agree with him 100%
If we use a more generic control and base a breakout year upon on better overall production, then I would agree with that statement as well.

So, How do you define a breakout year?

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define "pretty good"

After two years, Ryan has a 59.7 completion percentage and a TD/INT ratio of 1.52. That’s not “pretty good” in the NFL. It’s practically the definition of mediocre. It is, in fact, very Jason Campbell-ish.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

BOOM!

Rec’d
I did not realize that. That is pretty damn good for a 2nd year QB
According to my own definition of a “breakout year”, If he could sustain his TD/INT ration, and increase his completion% to around 65% he would indeed have a breakout year.

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

*ratio*

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why we keep using Campbell as a comparison like it's a bad thing

On one of the worst teams in the NFL, with virtually no weapons and an ancient offensive line, he put up a 61.2 completion percentage and 55 touchdowns versus 38 interceptions. That’s hardly great numbers, but on a quality team you’d have to figure he tosses a few more TDs and maybe connects on a few more passes. If Ryan tops out at 62% and say a 1.7 TD/INT ratio, and the Falcons have a quality defense and ground game, I’m willing to bet they win a lot of games.

I think this whole argument boils down to trying to refute what stupid talking heads on ESPN and others are trying to push forward, namely that because they’re in the same division, Brees and Ryan need to be compared. There is no comparison. They’re not even remotely similar quarterbacks, and it’s ridiculously unfair to expect Ryan to hit those heights when Brees himself took years to do it.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 28, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I used Campbell only because their stats are similar. In truth, the quarterback I think I would compare Ryan to is Matt Hasselbeck. Good but uneven, might even reach the Super Bowl once, but never elite.

And you’re right about the stupid talking heads. Also Rotoworld, which deals in fantasy, after all.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And maybe that's a fair comparison

They’re different quarterbacks, but as an overall picture you may not be far off.

I know Brees is an extreme case, but I think if Ryan blossoms this year those comparisons are really going to take off. As you mentioned yourself, Brees had two early years in the NFL that were downright mediocre before he took off, partly due to finding himself and partly due to a better team cropping up around him. I wouldn’t say that’s likely with Ryan, but even if he’s merely good, he’s got enough weapons to make him look better than that.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 28, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Hasselbeck was never elite? He was without a doubt among the top 3-5 QBs in the league, in his prime.

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by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

missed it on the first skim
might even reach the Super Bowl once

Jesus1000, M-E. That is a significant accomplishment which many quarterbacks never achieve. I’m thinking of Dan Marino and Dan Fouts, for example.

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by stujo4 on Jun 29, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

fyi… Dan Marino reached the SB, but never won one.

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

Really? “Significant accomplishment”? Every year, two teams go to the Super Bowl and drag along mediocre players who just happen to be lucky enough to fill a roster spot. Among the quarterbacks who accomplished the significant by just happening to be on a good team were those fantasy favorites Stan Humphries, Trent Dilfer, and Rex Grossman (career passer ratings 75.8, 70.2, and 69.5…not that there’s anything wrong with that).

And Matt Hasselbeck, to whom I’ve compared Matt Ryan. Sometimes good, never elite, and outdueled by Ben Roethlisberger in the Super Bowl. Maybe Roethlisberger can one day kick Ryan’s butt, if he can stay away from coeds and motorcycles.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot to mention

…Lito Sheppard’s been to the Super Bowl, too. A significant accomplishment.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Add this to your list, ME…

Matt Hasselbeck, to whom I’ve compared Matt Ryan. Sometimes good, never elite, and outdueled by the sometimes good, rarely elite Ben Roethlisberger in the Super Bowl.

Ben is good, better than mediocre even; but he wasn’t the reason the Steelers went to and won the SB.

pre-reply: Hush your mouth about the last drive. Yes, that was one of those rare times when Ben showed he could be elite.

James Harrison was the reason they won the SB. Without his 100 yard INT return for a TD to end the half, it’s very unlikely that they would have won.

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 29, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you'd only said this, I would not have objected
might even reach the super bowl once on the coattails of a great defense or a great running back

I think even Trent Dilfer did a pretty good job at QB in his super bowl, and they didn’t even want him back

But ok, I take your point. Conceded.

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by stujo4 on Jun 29, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with all of this

Theres not one thing I don’t like about this.

by Jon Banks on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can talk about Jason Campbell’s 2010 season next. You focus on past statistics and I’ll look forward to the future and we’ll see who comes out ahead in 2010.

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by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Oakland—and Campbell—may just kick ass this year. I don’t believe Matt Ryan changed teams, though, so I can’t see how one quarterback blooming under different circumstances translates to Ryan’s case.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Small sample size alert

I sense this is partly coming out of the desire to distance Drew Brees from Matt Ryan, what with all the heaving NFL analyst bosoms regarding Ryan, and I’ll agree they’re not even in the same conversation.

But let me get this straight. You want to take two seasons—one above average and one below average—and confidently predict Matt Ryan is going to be a middling quarterback for all of his days? You know I always respect your arguments, M-E, but it seems to me you’re jumping the gun big time. How are you going to tell me that a kid who has a quality arm, terrific instincts and . You have to account for the fact that he’s played two season on a young team, and that last year he dealt with injuries to a good chunk of the starting offensive line and a revolving door at running back. Yeah, he’s got Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez—but two weapons and a bunch of crap does not a team make. Brees is the far more talented quarterback, but he’s also surrounded by a much deeper set of weapons.

I find it a little funny that you’re able to relegate Ryan to the Garrard Doldrums after two seasons, based on little more than a gut feeling and his passer rating. Hey, maybe you’re right….but you don’t know that yet any more than I know if he’s the second coming of Jesus Christ in a Falcons jersey. You say you don’t see any reason to anoint him as the next Drew Brees, and of course you don’t….he’s not going to be. Could he be a very good quarterback for the Falcons for a decade? Maybe, maybe not….but I’d like to hear you explain why he won’t be, without referencing a two year block of passer ratings.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 28, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

boom rec'd it
.but I’d like to hear you explain why he won’t be, without referencing a two year block of passer ratings.

That’s what I’m talkin’ about.

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by stujo4 on Jun 28, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've done it again.

I agree with you completely, you better stop doing that or I’m going to wonder if you’re my clone. Except you root for the Falcons of course. :)

by Jon Banks on Jun 28, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

First of all, I didn’t relegate Ryan anywhere “based on little more than a gut feeling and his passer rating.” I used his passer rating as an example, simply because it’s an amalgam of several different stats, and thus is quick and handy. If you want, we can break down his game stat by stat…but passer rating will still track the breakdown pretty closely.

Secondly: while I didn’t, of course, spend as much time watching him last year as you did, it strikes me that the knocks on him coming out of college were spot on: his completion percentage ain’t great, he’s not all that mobile, he’s streaky. He’s okay. He’s solid. He’s (as I suggested above) Matt Hasselbeck come again: he’ll give you hope for another five years or so, maybe even ride along to the Super Bowl if you can put together an otherwise outstanding team. But he won’t be the reason you got there.

Is it too early to tell, definitively? Hell, it’s too early to tell about Brees. He’s still playing, after all, and he could play for another five years and be miserable every season. (I don’t see that happening, but it is logically a possibility.) And yeah, two years is too small a sample to knock a guy down and call him a bum. Or to claim that he’s a superstar on the cusp of exploding. I think, all told, that middle-of-the-pack is not only the safest bet, but the best description. So far.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't entirely disagree

I’m not sure I believe Ryan is ever going to be the franchise savior by himself, but again, that’s okay. We’ve never had one of those guys before.

It’s not that passer rating is the wrong stat to use, either. What I’m saying is that while an important piece of the puzzle, you have to consider what was working against Ryan in his sophomore campaign, which is exactly the sort of whiny nonsense you’d expect to hear from a Falcons fan. Again, he was playing injured, the one piece of the offensive puzzle expected to take pressure off of him was injured an awful lot last year, and you can see the number of sacks and pressures piling up against him thanks to injuries to the line.

Not to say Ryan is blameless. We got on him frequently last year for looking frightened in the pocket, and if you’re going to make an argument for mediocrity with the guy, that’s probably the place to start. I don’t know too many great quarterbacks who were afraid to take a hit or make an extra read. The Hasselbeck comparison isn’t as apt here because he has—in my estimation—a much better arm than Hasselbeck, but not his instincts at this point.

So yeah. I see where you’re coming from, but I think it’s too early to anoint Matt Ryan as much of anything beyond a young quarterback on an up-and-coming team. Obviously, I’m hoping for greatness, but that’s more a testament to watching him during his great moments (like the very first pass of his NFL career) than it is the body of work.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 28, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well you did have one franchise saving QB

And you traded him to Greenbay where he saved there franchise in the 90’s
I believe Cleveland needs a QB if you want to trade Ryan haha

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by mississippisaintsfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thankfully, the people running our team now

Are not complete morons. It’s a big relief.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 29, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dave-san, you are preaching to the choir on THAT point.

BTW, give Matt our worst. ;-)

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What's your worst?

A smashed and shot television?

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by Dave Choate on Jun 30, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus Christ in a Falcons jersey

Isn’t that Tebow’s line?

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

look around the league at FBs

Evans is probably the fastest or close to it. His pass receiving ability is beyond any real FB I have seen. Go look at the film on his catch vs. Phila. No other FB in the league can make that play. Many RBs can’t. That is why Payton upgraded to him when we already had an excellent FB that everyone loved. Payton knows west coast offense and when you have a FB that can catch, it changes EVERYTHING. That’s why we put Dave Thomas at that position and not the 4 others that tried to replace Evans. They couldn’t catch well. Thomas could.

Also, if you look closely at our season, we slumped offensively after Evans went down and stumbled a bit until we
figured out how to make things go again with Thomas etc. Evans or any other Saints FB will never be our receiving leader, but the catches he makes are some of the most important because it stretches the defense in one more dimension than they have. It’s the closest thing to what happened on the teams that had Moose Johnston (Dallas) and Rathman (SF). They opened up things for everyone else just because of what they could do. They made the offense be all it can be instead of almost all it can be. No team can cover (on a passing play) Colston, Shockey, Henderson, Moore, Bush and Evans. None. Most FBs are just agile blocking guards and a defense doesn’t worry about them.

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by Philinwood on Jun 28, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Um...

I’m inclined to agree with you, in general. But the reason no team can cover six receivers on a single play is that they don’t plan against that kind of formation, since it’s impossible. Five interior linemen, plus a quarterback, leaves only five possible receivers.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 28, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heath Evans

Phillinwood…You made a valid point regarding Heath Evans when he got injured, our offense slumped down a little bit. Brees was feeling more pressure without evans so they had to adjust throughout the season. Before Evans was injured, Brees had so much time in the pocket, he could have finished a 400 page novel through the whole game.

That’s why it’s critical this coming season to keep Evans healthy. He not only can catch, make plays and make the passing game easier…he also opens up the running game as well.

by Jricky70 on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you. i have a very high regard for evans.....

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by Philinwood on Jul 3, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you missed my point

and please don’t take that as a knock because I really agree with so much you post and have great respect for your knowlege and opinions. What I was trying to convey is this: When we line up with a slew of receivers- let’s say Bush, Colston, Shockey and Henderson. Technically Evans could be in the lineup and considered a receiver also. But, in contrast, when some other team does that, usually the defense on the field is either not worried about the FB as a receiver or is minimally worried. Usually that’s because most FBs are just blockers. Now, with the Saints- not only are ALL of those above mentioned receivers capable of a big play and become a major matchup headache for the DC, but then there is Evans who is immensely capable as a receiver either on a direct route of some sort or on a chip vs. the DE and an outlet pass opposite from say Reggie in the opposite flat or across the middle (less likely).

Making this all even a bigger nightmare for a defense playing the Saints is that Madman Payton is just dying to see an opportunity for this and loves this kind of stuff because now the play succeeds because he dictated this response to the defense’s dilemma. I am convince this is what makes the play calling for Payton the most fun is having that 1 or 2 extra weapons to play with. And when I listed Moore in there as well, I was just trying not to leave him out (he is a very bonafide weapon) and not to imply that we had 6 receivers on the field.

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by Philinwood on Jun 28, 2010 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you’re overrating a career journeyman. I’m sure no one can make some of the throws Kerry Collins makes. No one in your mind, anyway.

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by coldpizza on Jun 28, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

why do you always blather about something extraneous and unrelated such as Kerry Collins?

Why not bring Joe Scarpatti or Sherman Plunkett into the conversation?- they are irrelevant too.

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by Philinwood on Jun 29, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kerry Collins is a career journeyman QB. Joe Scarpati played almost his entire career for one team. You might want to revisit the definition of extraneous.

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by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

see that's where we don't see eye to eye

I’m talking about Heath Evans and FBs and you think that bringing up any random journeyman athlete such as Sedale Threatt is pertinent to the conversation. I call it extraneous. Heath Evans and Kerry Collins are both right handed. I think they both have cousins named Wanda. Doesn’t mean it’s relevant to the argument. Kerry Collins was no where NEAR the blocker Evan is. Nor does he have as many receptions. Touchdowns actually scored-Collins has the edge. This is all extraneous. But this is where I’m pretty comfortable with the description of extraneous as a major adjective related to your attempts to prove another person incorrect. BTW Lorenzo Neal bounced around playing for 7 teams and Craig Heyward played for 5, 2 very,very good FBs. I think switching teams multiple times as a FB doesn’t mean necessarily you should be classified as a journeyman or that you aren’t a quality player.

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by Philinwood on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

“I think switching teams multiple times as a FB doesn’t mean necessarily you should be classified as a journeyman or that you aren’t a quality player.”

As a FB or as any position, if you switch teams numerous times throughout your career, you’re a journeyman player. That’s the definition of the word. I’m not saying Evans isn’t a quality player BECAUSE he’s a journeyman. In fact, I’m not even saying that Evans isn’t a quality player. i’m saying that he isn’t among the best FBs in the league. I’m saying that you’re overrating a journeyman FB. Whether Kerry Collins can throw a block or a d*** up your a** is what doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. Any position can be used in an analogy. Any extreme can be used in an analogy. If you said Terrell Owens is among the worst WRs in the league, I would state that you’re underrating a journeyman WR. Does that mean that I think he’s not a quality WR, BECAUSE he’s switched teams so many times? No, it doesn’t. Conversely, does it mean that I think he’s still an elite WR? No, it doesn’t. I just don’t think he’s among the worst, as you stated. If you want to draw negative connoctations from non-negative terms, that’s your prerogative. I do agree that Neal and Heyward were both good FBs, btw. Neal much moreso. If you can draw comparisons from Evans to either one of those guys, more power to you. I’d personally I’d file him somewhere between Verron Haynes and who gives a rat’s rump.

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by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was referring to the iurrelevancy of those players- went over your head apparently

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by Philinwood on Jul 3, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah. So, you have no trouble drawing a parallel between players and irrelevancy, yet when it comes to drawing a parallel between two players’ journeyman-like careers, your brain begins to fog up. Makes perfect sense.

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by coldpizza on Jul 5, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then I think...

to take it further, that Payton loves even more what THE NEXT play would be based on now how he has messed with the defense’s heads via his pass-receiving FB being a major headache and now has to be accounted for.

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by Philinwood on Jun 28, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I have to make a change to the first week's matchup between the Steelers and the Falcons.

Steelers just lost their starting RT for the entire season. He was placed on IR for an Achillies injury. Score one for the Falcons.

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and are the Saints better than the Falcons overall?

Yes.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 28, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for your honest opinion Dave.

I think your fellow bloggers at your site may differ with that.

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 29, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure neither Adam nor I have claimed the Falcons are better than the Saints right now.

Many of our commenters are very confident about this year’s matchups, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

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by Jason Kirk on Jun 29, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

We could finish with a worse record than the Saints

And still beat them silly in at least one game. I’d like to think that’ll happen.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 29, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The odds are probably 50-50. Besides…everyone seems to want to beat the Saints silly now. At some point, it’ll happen. Maybe twice.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 29, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've got a target on your back

And that’s an issue, but it has to be tempered with the fact that you’re a darn good team. I’m just not sure you’re appreciably better than last year in the short-term…but you won the Super Bowl, so who cares.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 30, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Walsh believed that the second year under a coordinator was always much better than the first. In the first year, the players are learning the system and finding out what’s possible. In the second, they know the system, and start to apply what they know in earnest.

Last year, the Saints had a damned good defense by some measures (red zone, takeaways, opponents’ passer rating), and a poor one by others (primarily yards surrendered, but also total points). If they get only a little better at their run defense, and cut down on the number of big scoring plays allowed, the Saints could indeed be much improved over the Super Bowl champion team.

(I’m assuming that—absent injuries—the offense will take care of itself.)

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Jun 30, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The offense will take care of itself

When I (an only semi-informed Falcons fan) look at your defense, I don’t see any substantial improvements. I see some young players who should be helpful in the future, but I don’t know that it will be in 2010.

Of course, you know by now to take everything I say with a grain of salt.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 30, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we dont get as banged up as last year on d

then that will be a substantial improvement

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by DrewBreesManCrush on Jun 30, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of the best Saints players on defense missed the middle of the season (I was going to say middle third, but it’s more like the middle two fourth’s isn’t it??) due to injuries which resulted in the low ranking for the season. I can’t understand why no one outside of us understands that. That hot s*** D who won the Super Bowl is ready to go for 2010. If they stop eating chicken and making speeches and get back to work, that is.

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by stujo4 on Jun 30, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, okay

See? I was relatively unaware of your injury issue. Foolish Falcons fan.

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by Dave Choate on Jun 30, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, for our first loss, our #1, #2, #4, and I think #5 or 6 CB’s were injured, and I think Sharper was out for that game too.

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 30, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Statistics REALLY crack me up. Try this one on for size ~

The Saints, Falcons, and Bucs have all been to the Super Bowl once.
The Saints and Bucs won.
Therefore: the Saints and Bucs are better than the Falcons.
Duuh? The Bucs are better than the Falcons? Thanks, stats.
(This was just a dramatization. No actual statistics were killed or injured during this post.)

I think the older Saints Fans realize that when the Saints and Falcons play, everything that happened between 30 seconds to 43 years before the kickoff is a non-factor. Although at a lower profile (this IS the NFL South, after all), the Saints and Falcons have one of the best rivalries in football. Anything can, and does, happen.

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jun 28, 2010 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Hey, I like that line

Might make a good tagline.

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by Dave Cariello on Jun 28, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consider it my gift to you for all your hard work.

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jun 28, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boom! Rec'd

That comment should be added to the list Stu.
Got to keep up with appearences and all.

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 28, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just ’nother rec.

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by Dang Hu Dat on Jun 29, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think Ryan can be a really good QB

I won’t say a Manning, Brees, or Brady but one of the upper-tier type QBs. I don’t like stats from the past when the guy’s been in the league less than 4 years.(i know Ryan’s been playing for less) There’s something i like to consider when deciding how well i think a player will do that’s not been in the league long. That’s experience. Brees did not become one of the best QBs in the league untill he got to the Saints. I think alot of that has to do with experience and the style of O that we play. Ryan has gotten experience and has a good bit of potential. Those 2 things mixed in with commitment and skill sets make me think that Ryan is ready to have a good year. That’s just me though

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by skinnykinney on Jun 28, 2010 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with the gist of what you say. I'm afraid Ryan could be a thorn in our paw for quite a while.

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jun 28, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Clausen

Will be the face of the Bowns while being the Panthers franchise QB?? Kids got talent :)

by Alex Saints on Jun 29, 2010 8:00 AM CDT reply actions  

He’s leaps and Bowns better than most Notre Dame QBs.

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by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

CP’s on a roll. Cracking me up.

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by stujo4 on Jun 29, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

CP, I am supprised you are being gentle with this fanshot.

Don’t get me wrong i do not mind accepting hand me outs. I did after all ride the short bus.

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by jeremysherwin on Jun 29, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just skimmed over it. What was I supposed to react to?

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by coldpizza on Jun 29, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

My original point was Ryam needs to prove himself since he hasn't yet.

And, very few QBs live up to their “expected potential” so until he does all he is , is a large question mark that makes it very dicey to hang a hat on as a guy to lead his team to post season success. The list of QBs that have had one or two good or great seasons but never panned out to be a superstar and make a difference in the long run is considerable.

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by Philinwood on Jun 29, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Awesome work, sir.

Rec’d. Can’t wait for the second part. You just might have made it on my always-do-read radar.

Now how will Stu manage to get all that stuff into his, oh so ever kindly, rebaptise gruge list?

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by FrenchFreak on Jun 29, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

So you think the Vikings didn't upgrade there secondary

Even though our first pick was a cornerback out of Virginia and we signed a veteran in Lito Sheppard?

by vikesfan4lyf on Jun 30, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll let Stu handle this one

G _ _ _ _ _ _ H !!!

Sure hope he has $250 to spare for a vowel.

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by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol...

That is funny, not as funny as him being happy/proud/delusional about LS, but quite funny.

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 30, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

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by Dave Cariello on Jun 30, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

How gentlemanly of you, stu… [golf clap & rec]

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by Dan Kelly on Jun 30, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

how random?

all i did was find a football on google images and upload it there’s no need for looking at what’s on the football.

I’m not saying Lito is going to come in and be a force but nobody knows wether he’ll be a upgrade or a downgrade so for the OP to say something like the Vikings wanted Patrick Robinson, which we really didnt, and then say we haven’t upgraded the secondary any makes it seem like he hasn’t really done his homework on it.

by vikesfan4lyf on Jun 30, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

nobody knows wether he’ll be a upgrade or a downgrade

Oh I know. I know.

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by stujo4 on Jun 30, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lito Shepard is an upgrade to a secondary

About as much as CSC Member Deedy is grammar professor.

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by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 2, 2010 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

BOING!!!!!!!!!

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 2, 2010 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

don't ban me, bro?

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by Hans Petersen on Jul 3, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

pre-reply

that question mark should not have been there – I was trying to applaud and praise the phrase…

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by Hans Petersen on Jul 3, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I recall getting a little excited about a guy we signed from Indy

Feeling quickly turned to dismay during our opener vs the colts :(

Where next?

by saint_chew on Jun 30, 2010 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

What?! HWSNBN made the play of the millennium in that game, stripping Wayne and returning it for a TD.

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by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess I went to bed that morning as a glass half empty guy.

All the expectations of a new season plus HWSNBN`s pre game talk of how he
knows Manning and the Colts inside out left me feeling like the kid who wanted a bike
for christmas and ended up with a scarf knitted by grandma.

Where next?

by saint_chew on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

That scarf may have saved you from a life-threatening bicycle accident. Grandma knits in mysterious ways.

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by coldpizza on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or got snagged in the spokes...

my early years seemed to be either full of enormous let downs or
comical mishaps , a bit like the Saints I guess.
sigh….. maybe one day I`ii win the superbowl.

Where next?

by saint_chew on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Streams like this remind me

of what it’s like for me to scroll down to click on “Year of Birth!”

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by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 2, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

for clarification re: journeyman

from wikipedia

“In professional sport, the term “journeyman” refers to a player who is experienced, but has yet to achieve a major success. It is a term particularly used to refer to quarterbacks in American football; players such as Trent Dilfer, Kelly Holcomb and Tony Banks are recent examples of journeymen quarterbacks."

I think Terrell Owens would not be considered a journeyman in this regard since if it wasn’t for his big mouth he would be perilously close to HOF status. Still might be.

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by Philinwood on Jul 3, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

For Further Clarification

Websters Online defines it this way.

Journeyman:
1 : a worker who has learned a trade and works for another person usually by the day
2 : an experienced reliable worker, athlete, or performer especially as distinguished from one who is brilliant or colorful

Wikipedia is too opinionated for defining words.

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by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 6, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

an experienced reliable worker, athlete, or performer especially as distinguished from one who is brilliant

That’s the sense used for the NFL.

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by stujo4 on Jul 6, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

but I'd add part about playing for multiple teams in a career, too

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by Hans Petersen on Jul 6, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Si.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Bobby Scott referred to as a journeyman backup.

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by coldpizza on Jul 6, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

would that make him a sub journeyman

by shn_hldn on Jul 7, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, the Falcons are not better than the Saints.

However, the Panthers are. Yet, the Falcons are better than the Panthers. Try to figure that one out.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Jul 11, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Spoken Like A True Homer

I can both appreciate and respect this comment, as I feel, and have always felt, that the Saints are a better team than the Panthers. I believe this has been diagnosed as “Homeritis”. Either way, I am happy with it and it hurts no one but me if I am wrong.

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