Top 15 Starting QB rankings for next season
So lately I've been thinking about QBs and where they rank compared to others. So I decided to post my thoughts with the rest of you. I've ranked 15 QBs not based on their career but on the expectations for this year
1. Drew Brees: Surprised? Then you work for the MSM and stumbled across this article by mistake, go back to reading your Florio posts, its ok I won't tell. Seriously though, Brees was phenomenal last year racking up 4388 yards in 15 games with 34 TD's and only 11 INT. But what makes these stats so amazing is the fact that he also completed 70.6% of his passes setting an NFL record. Expectations going into this next season are high for him and I say he reaches it because I want him to, really bad.
2. Peyton Manning: I know everyone has heard this ad nauseum, but he's accurate, can pick apart a defense and can throw a ball that makes you wonder how in the hell did he do that. Safe to say, he will do that again this season and will lead the Colts to another division title and will probably get deep into the playoffs if not the Superbowl. His expectations are high, and he may have a small chip on his shoulder after getting so close to his 2nd ring and losing it in the last 3:23.
3. Tom Brady: Had a bad season compared to previous years. Now how does throwing 4398 yards, 28 TDs, and 13 INT make a bad year? Well, that just shows you how good of a QB he was before his injury. The Sane bet is that he comes back next year with a vengeance and has a career year. Since I'm not sane however, I think he will have a good year for an average QB but will slip a bit more.Still will break 4000 yards, but a few more INT after trying to force more throws. Expectations for him are through the roof but I think he will come up short.
4. Aaron Rodgers: 4434 yards, 64.7 % completion percentage, 30 TD, and 7 INT with 50 sacks. Those are great numbers (minus the sacks of course) for any QB but for one without an offensive line, those numbers are unbelievable. The Packers improved their offensive line this past off season, which means that Rodgers should improve with more completions, but if 7 INT occur with no O-Line, this number should stay around that number +/- 3. His Expectations are also through the roof, but with better reason, young, coming off a great season even though hes been thrown more times into the ground than Favre at the NFC championship game.
5. Brett Favre: You may be talking to your computer saying "jon08ban, why would you put Brett Favre on this list, when there's no guarantee he will be back next season" Well umm because hes coming back. Bank on that. Had one of, if not his best season last year. This year he will be 40 years old, play a much tougher schedule, and more teams will know how to beat Favre, by watching the NFCCG last year. I think he will come back but he will have an average to subpar season. Still put up numbers that other QBs will be jealous of, but not the most spectacular season hes had. Expectations for him are high but usually QBs don't have career years every year.
6. Matt Schaub: Had his best year last year... by playing all 16 games. And look what he did! Passed for 4770 yards the 6th most ever in the NFL. Had trouble in the Red Zone last year, but that's more of a fault to put on the Texans instead of on Schaub. The Texans have a Top 3 WR in Andre Johnson that is an automatic 1200 yards for Schaub. The Texans will be better next year and may even take a peek at the playoffs and partake in a round or two. Schaub might have different numbers next year, for example less yardage but more TD's and less INT, but I think after next year his name may be said alot more in the MSM...if they can pronounce it correctly.
7. Philip Rivers: I know he is usually put in the Top 5, but frankly I would rather any of the above QBs before Rivers, so why should I rank him that high? Now that's not to say he isn't a great QB, put up good numbers last year with 4254 yards passing, 28 TDs and 9 INT. He should have another season thats great and will be able to lead the Chargers to another division title (as if its hard). But will fall short in the playoffs thanks to someone who is actively preventing them from going forward in the playoffs, I will give you one guess as to who.Here's a hint (Norv Turner). Anyway back to Rivers, expectations are semi high, which I think he will make having another 4000 yard season with low INT rate but still be in the middle to high echelon of QBs at the end of the season, same place he started the season at.
8. Ben Roethlisberger: Putting my personal feelings for the man aside, He has had good years this past decade and would most likely have another one this year if it wasn't for the suspension. Thanks to a 4-6 game suspension his numbers will be a lot lower than usual. Probably around 3000 yards and may break 20 TDs with single digit INT if there is a 6 game suspension. What gets him so high on the list is that the Steelers are in the same situation the Vikings are in if Favre didn't return this year. The Steelers will need him back to have a threat back at the QB position. When he starts playing when the suspension is over, I would stay away from bars if I were a 20 something female.
9. Donovan McNabb: The move to Washington is good for him. Most in Philly have been putting all the blame on him,fairly or unfairly. So hopefully the move will help him with the fan base if nothing else, which is good because there is nothing else awaiting him in Washington except for a huge DT who is unhappy with 100 boatloads of money. He had a good season last year throwing for 3553 yards with 22 TDs and 10 INT. His problem was his 60.3% completion rate, if he can get this up to the mid 60 range, the Redskins will be in the playoffs. Expectations for him are pretty high, thanks to him the Redskins have jumped into playoff contenders just with this one move. If the O-line can hold up for him better than it did for Campbell then he should have a good year.
10.Joe Flacco: Not the greatest year for a QB, throwing for 3613 yards with 21 TDs and 12 INT. It's good, not great. But this coming year he now has a great weapon in Anquan Boldin to throw to and an offensive line that will improve. This next season should be his breakout year for QB to get into the mid to high echelon QBs, not the elites mind you but the next tier.His name should get a few more mentions next year as he should improve to a 3900+ season with close to 25 TDs. Expectations are high and I think he delivers.
11. Matt Ryan: Past few days there have been some arguments here on where Ryan ranks as a QB, Ive now picked a side. Ryan did not have a good season last year, and missed two games to injury. He passed for 2916 yards and 22 TDs and 14 INT. His last year ranking would be in the high teens. This next year he should have a breakout year. It's not that hes due, its the fact that hes maturing as a QB which I think will help lead the Falcons to a 10-6 record, also leaning on Micheal Turner for help though. If he can do better on the no huddle offense as the Falcons want him to do, then he should lead the Falcons to a good season. Although what happens in the playoffs is any guess. The expectations for him are through the roof, I think he may not reach the roof but will get to the 5th floor at least.
12. Eli Manning: Eli is hard to place on a scale of 1-10, can be good streaky and bad streaky in the same game. Can throw like his brother then will turn into a skinnier version of Jamarcus Russel. Threw for his best season ever with 4021 yards and 27 TDs with 14 INT. Which are great numbers, but again work in streaks. I don't see NY making the playoffs this year (although I also said there's now way they beat the Patriots in 08) but they may get a winning record depending on their division record. He should have the same season as this one, great but will stay in the middle echelon of QBs and may surprise a few people but I doubt it. Expectations are "eh" on him.
13. Tony Romo: Personal Disclaimer: I hate Romo with the intensity of a billion and 4 suns, my hatred for him could write poems that would fill this blog with a whole bunch of crap but I digress, just wanted to make sure that is known beforehand. Romo had a career year throwing 4483 yards with 26 TDs and 9 INT. He also managed to not screw up a playoff victory this year but they did play the eagles who had an end of the season collapse and then fell flat on their faces in front of the world when they played the vikings. Now the Media says the Cowboys are going to be led by Romo to the greatest victory ever to go to the Superbowl in Dallas to finally claim the title that has alluded them for Oh so long. I, however am not the media, Romo will drop a bit next year to about 4000 passing yards with maybe a few more TDs but more INTs too. They probably will get to the playoffs, but it would simply be because the rest of their division has dropped a bit this year.
14. Jason Campbell: Just like with Mcnabb I think the change in scenery will do him good, I think hes a good QB, running for your life while trying to throw the ball is not the best way to get into the upper echelons and that won't change much in Oakland, but a change of place seems to work on some players. I think he will produce a 3900 yard season at least with a possible 4000 yard season in his future if Oakland's receivers have a great year. Oakland may get out of the gutter this year and have their sights on a....wait for it....500 season! That's right Oakland may get close to an 8-8 season, its amazing how changing your QB from a DT to an actual QB will do for a team's prospects. I got him pegged as someone who may change Oakland's future.
15. Tim Tebow: Yes Thats right the man who was appointed by Jesus1000k he will enter the Top 15 rankings and be on his way to a hall of fame career...HAHAHA yeah sorry about that. First fanpost requires a dig at Tebow, if your heads are still intact, read on for the real number 14.
The real 15. Vince Young: VY isn't the greatest QB and is lucky that his team has one of the greatest RBs in the game. However, look at the Titans pre-VY and after and you will see just how good he can be. He's probably one of the best running QBs and his passing is enough to get him some yardage but not a big threat. However, ask the Texans about that dual threat of running and the ability to pass. He has burned the team that burned him in the draft a few years ago many times on plays where he looked to pass then broke out for a run to get the first. He can have a good year and this will probably be the difference between playoffs and another season for the Titans.
Well that was it, first fan post I've written and I tried to be as unbiased as I could in my rankings and I hope they are mostly accurate. I may try to do one for RBs in the future as well.
Update: Tebow on the list was a joke at his expense, I did not mean it at all. Just wanted to clarify.
Update: Big Ben got lost in cyberspace, had to go back and add him because of that everyone dropped down a spot.
This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.
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Romo’s too low, imo. I also think Cutler and Palmer both bounce back with Top 15 seasons. Chad Henne and Matt Leinart are two more that could easily wind up pushing the tail end of this group. I also wouldn’t rule out Roethlisberger, despite his suspension. That is, if you’re not simply basing these rankings on projected cumulative yardage.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I know Romo is low which is why I put the disclaimer
I’m not sure about Cutler, he seems to almost want to throw it to the other team, and Palmer, Henne and Leinart were my runner ups to the 14 and 15th spots. And no, I did select based on the QBs themselves, the stats usually follow a good QB, and can sometimes represent where they are even though they only tell half the story.
What about Kolb? Even without Westbrook, the Eagles’ RB rotation should figure heavily into the passing game.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
To be honest, don't know much about Kolb.
Will have to do some searching on him before I can say either way
Jason Campbell and Vince Young?
Are you high? Vince Young is a less accurate version of Tim Tebow. And when has a change of scenery been good for anybody when it involved going to Oakland in the past 10 years? If Jason Campbell was a big pile of suck when he was throwing to a roided up Santana Moss, what in the world makes you think he will be the 13th best QB in the league when throwing to Louis Murphy?
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
VY is not dead on accuarate but hes not worse than Tebow, and its not his passing thats great but the fact that when he runs he can get a first down quickly. I believe Oakland will be better this year than the past decade. They are starting to rebuild and resemble somewhat of a pro football team, and I believe with Campbell their offense will be alot better. Plus his stats weren’t that horrible, he threw for 3618 yards with 20 TDs and 15 INT. Pretty good considering he also had 43 sacks.
Running QB: check (and it looks like Tebow can take a hit better than VY at this point)
God-awful throwing motion while in college: check
Taking a look at completion percentage…..yep….Tebow is the more accurate passer.
And I’m sure the Raiders offense will be better with Campbell. But that doesn’t mean it will be good. If he was mediocre with some decent weapons, it stands to reason that he will be horrible in a system where he has no real weapons. And let me tell you as a guy living in the Redskins TV market, most of those sacks were Campbell’s fault. They guy has no clock in his head telling him when to get rid of the ball.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
As weird as throwing motions may be, they don’t define the QB especially while in college. And Tebow has yet to play a down in the NFL we don’t know what his NFL completion percentage is. If we are going to use college football as a determinant of how good a player is in the NFL, then Jamarcus Russel is the greatest QB and Reggie is the best RB in the league.
I don’t know what games you were watching, but Jamarcus Russell proved he had some huge problems with his game in college. The only reason he was drafted 1st overall and expected to start his rookie year was that Oakland is run by a crazy old man that has probably been legally dead for about 5 years now. And Reggie showed in college that he couldn’t be an every down back. Pretty good assessment.
And I’m not saying Tebow should be in the top 15. He shouldn’t. I’m saying that VY shouldn’t either. And I’m saying that if you compare college Vince Young to college Tim Tebow, Tebow is the better QB. Young is essentially the exact same QB he was in college: inaccurate and has trouble with quick decisions.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
“The only reason he was drafted 1st overall and expected to start his rookie year was that Oakland is run by a crazy old man that has probably been legally dead for about 5 years now.”
In Davis’s defense, Russell was included in practically ever GM in the league’s top 5 overall prospects. He wasn’t a reach persay, he just wasn’t a franchise LT or DE. And that’s what any team drafting first overall should be targeting, if they don’t already have one.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
“Young is essentially the exact same QB he was in college: inaccurate and has trouble with quick decisions.”
And light years better overall than Kerry Collins. He put that argument to rest this past season.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Chaz Schilens will start over Murphy and be among the league leaders in YAC. You can take that one to the bank.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jun 30, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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I am a coldpizza sycophant today.
Oh war, I despise
Because it means destruction of innocent lives
More like Tim Tebow is a less NFL-ready version of Vince Young.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Check out Vince Young’s throwing motion when he was at Texas. Makes Tim Tebow look like Joe Montana. At least Tebow is throwing over-handed.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
That’s the worst argument I’ve ever heard for someone having a good throwing motion. How many good side-armed quarterbacks have there been in the league?
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
John Elway is one. I’ll try and find more when I get my lunch.
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
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I am no longer a coldpizza sycophant today. He is a mean nattering nabob of negativism.
Oh war, I despise
Because it means destruction of innocent lives
by stujo4 on Jun 30, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
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I love it when you serenade me in alliteration.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Elway did have trouble with a low release at times, but that was something he worked to correct for much of his career. If you want someone that had success as a pure 100% sidearm thrower the way VY tries to be, you are down to pretty much Bernie Kosar.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Kosar was a ridiculously awkward looking QB, especially when he attempted to scramble. It was like watching a baby giraffe trying to shake off the effects of a tranquilizer dart.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
All I’m saying is that throwing motion, yes can affect how a ball is thrown, but is relative to the person throwing. He’s clearly more comfortable with the sidearm, and he wouldn’t sacrifice throwing overhand if it was much better
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
In Elway’s case, he had a wider array of effective deliveries than most professional QBs, and a lot of that stemmed from his amateur baseball career. You can practice prototype technique until the cows come home. When the game’s on the line and you’re engineering successful drives by improvising — which Elway’s arm strength allowed him to do — no one is going to b**** and moan about mechanics. In truth, that’s any position. Think Pete Gogolak caught a lecture or two over his unorthodox kicking style? If a cartoon RB emerged out of the jungles Tazmania, no one would give two sh** s about his constant spinning and failure to follow running lanes, as long as he was bowling over defensive players on his way to the end zone. Success breeds acceptance, point blank.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
So what I’m getting from this paragraph is: if Tim Tebow can complete 70% of his passes during his senior year, then all of the pundits and scouts are insane for being critical of his throwing style.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jun 30, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
If you mean pundits of his potential at the college level and college scouts, then yes, they were proven wrong.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I'm confused as to what you are getting at
You said that success breeds acceptance. Where exactly is he supposed to have success in order to gain acceptance? The only chance he has been given to succeed is at the college level, which he did. Yet he was still told that he had to change his throwing style before the combine or he would not be an NFL quarterback. Where exactly was the acceptance that came from his success? What was he supposed to do at the college level to gain the acceptance that Vince Young and Phillip Rivers (both had horrible throwing mechanics in college) got for their playing styles?
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jun 30, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Vince Young has had some success on the pro level and Philip Rivers is lighting it up. They gained acceptance through that success. Tebow hasn’t accomplished jack on the pro level yet, so the pundits remain. What’s so hard to understand about that?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
The fact that nobody said jack when Young and Rivers were both top 5 picks and half of the blogoshpere exploded with hatred when Tebow went in the middle of the first round, calling it the biggest reach in the history of the draft. That’s what’s so hard for me to understand.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jun 30, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A lot of people talked negatively about their mechanics. The primary difference is that Tebow has relied moreso on his feet and improvisation than either one of those guys, Rivers in particular. The line of thinking is that his lack of discipline as a pocket passer will ultimately be his undoing. The mechanics are just icing on the cake. That doesn’t mean he absolutely will fail on the pro level. Steve McNair was basically the same type athlete at Alcorn State, albeit without the question marks with his mechanics. He transitioned well into a pocket passer. With Tebow, you’re talking about the shortcomings of a few different athletes rolled into one. Young wasn’t anywhere near the fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants QB Tebow/McNair was in college. Young ran plays specifically designed to take advantage of his athleticism. At least to this point, Tebow’s has been a free-wheeler, like McNair when he was drafted. Obviously, the Broncos feel he has enough raw talent to overcome those shortcomings. Many people simply don’t feel that way.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I have to disagree with you about Vince Young. For most of his college career, and some of his pro career, I haven’t seen much of anything other than improvisation. I can’t see “run if no one is open” being a solid play design.
And with a 70% completion percentage, I’m not sure I buy it that there are legitimate concerns about him as a pocket passer. He put up passing stats better than Vince Young ever dreamed about in college.
Its funny, I actually compared Tebow to a young Steve McNair a while back and Stujo jumped all over me for that one. But either way, you can add McNair to the list of top 5 draft picks in this conversation. Being a “free-wheeler” didn’t keep him from being the 3rd overall pick.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Pickings were slim that year and he went to a team that desperately needed a QB. What was their alternative? Kerry Collins? Penn State was and always has been a run heavy football program. I don’t blame Houston for going with the guy they had more tape on. Regardless, the Oilers were willing to roll the dice and it paid off over time. The same may hold true for Tebow.
Young rarely improvises. Almost all of Tennessee passing plays are designed the way they’re run. If they weren’t, Young wouldn’t be as successful as he has been in the pros. The same held true in college, albeit to a slightly lesser extend. Urban Meyer has never failed to be candid about allowing Tebow the leeway to improvise throughout his career at Florida. You’re dead wrong about that.
If you made the comparison to McNair in terms of improvisation skills, you were correct. Mechanics wise, there’s no comparison between those two. Cunningham was a scrambler by design. Vick is and always has been by design. MOST running quarterbacks are. Fran Tarkenton was not. Steve Young improvised moreso in the pros than he did in college. John Fourcade was nothing but improvisation. There’s nothing set in stone among those examples that points to success or failure. The simple fact that there aren’t many examples of such is what makes most GMs so hesitant to go that route.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Houston was in no way desperate for a QB in 95. During McNair’s rookie season Chris Chandler was rated as the 4th best QB in the AFC.
With Vince Young, I get that the plays are designed to get VY to roll out and give him options, and I guess improvising is the wrong word to describe it, but it seems that Young always has the go-ahead to pull the ball down and run with it if he feels the pass isn’t there. My criticism is that I feel he goes to that run option too quickly in a lot of instances.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
So, what leads you to believe Tebow would fare any better in that decision making process? He ran more often than Young did in college when outright given that leeway.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I actually think Tebow will show the same tendencies when it comes to running too often that VY shows. I don’t deny that will be a downside for him (at least it is a downside the way I look at it). I just think that when he does pass, he will be more effective at it than Vince Young based on comparing Young’s college career to Tebow’s.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Houston was 100% desperate for a QB in 95. Their QB, Chandler as you pointed out, was a career failure up until 1995. He had already flopped between 5 teams in 8 years. Just because he turned it on and became a good reliable starter in the year they drafted a QB, by no means should be interpreted as not being desperate.
That Tebow kid is no Jack Kennedy, I can tell you that.
Oh war, I despise
Because it means destruction of innocent lives
If he did, he’d lobby for her corpse to keep the baby.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Tebow hate
It is because he is a Christian, that is the only explanation to all the amount of criticism.
"We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night." -- Greg Williams
by DrWhoDat on Jul 1, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s an obnoxious, holier-than-thou, proselytizing, sitting-in-judgment Christian burning with unChristlike personal ambition. That’s why I despise him.
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
But if you were a UF fan, you’d have his kid. Success breeds acceptance, right?
by Andrew Tessier on Jul 2, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
If Tebow played for Kansas, I’d still despise him. I don’t like Dez Briscoe either.
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
Rodgers too low, Favre too high
Aaron Rodgers will be playing in the NFC championship game this coming season. Like it or not.
Oh war, I despise
Because it means destruction of innocent lives
Eli way too high...
Flacco too high.
Romo too low.
Tebow? (I don’t hate him like some of our other member’s might, but… Tebow???)
Where’s Carson Palmer?
"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin
Good post
Well written, well thought out. Way to start out.
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Aaron Rodgers is a Very Dangerous QB!!
It’s been predicted the Packers will be playing in NFCCG. I’ve even predicted it myself. And I hope the Saints will play them. It would be a great match up. This guy is incredible! I observed watching him play last season and the amount of pressure he took from sacks and hurries, Rodgers can play there’s no doubt!
If and when he gets protection from his offensive line, just imagine how dangerous he will be with that.
He put up phenomenal numbers last 2 seasons when he was pressured consistently.
Here are some Aaron Rodgers highlights I found on youtube.
Where is Big Ben
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 30, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 30, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for pointing that out.
I don’t know what happened. He was there when I hit publish. I remember because I had a detailed explanation on him. I will have to go back and edit it again.
Gotta go Rogers number 1, Brees number two. Especially when you look at the improvement in his line over the last half of the season plus the stud rookie tackle they drafted. His numbers over the last two years back it up.
Out of curiosity how is this ranking based? Is it based on a Fantasy system aka, who has the most yards, most TDs, least ints etc. Or based purely from your perspective on who’s a better leader and quarterback?
Do i agree with your rankings….no, i threw up a little in my mouth at Tebow, Stafford and VY, but i appreciate the hard work it takes to create your own post and throw it out there for everyone to see. Thanks for effort.
From the Fantasy perspective I agree with Rogers being number 1
It does have some fantasy influence but also a bit of personal thoughts and also how much that QB helps their team win. Team needis how VY jumped others because the Titans were horrible with Collins at the helm, then improved massively when he came back. Tebow was a joke, I guess I need to edit the post because a lot more people thought that Tebow was seriously placed at 14. And Thank you for the comment.
Fair enough
But a few thoughts, or more accurately, my opinion…
1. Brady has seen his best days and is on the way down. Maybe number 5 on this list at best and only because of his PAST!
2. Schaub ahead of Rivers? I’d take Rivers in a heartbeat over Schaub.
3. I get the manlove for Brees but Peyton is probably the best QB ever and hasn’t started his downhill decline. Not sure you can put anyone ahead of him even though you beat them in the SB.
4. I’d take Stafford over Tebow, Young or Cambell at this point. Very promising future!
5. And now the tough one…. I think I’d taake Romo over McNabb at this point. As a Viking fan, I think about who I’d rather trade for and Romo would be my choice of the two.
1. Agreed on Brady, but I think he will still perform better than other QBs and because of that he got a bit of a boost. However I think this is his last year in Top 3 and next year may be his last in the Top 5.
2. I’d rather Schaub but that’s my opinion.
3. It was close to be honest, at first I had them tied but I wanted to pick a side, and Brees has the advantage of just coming off a great season and post season compared to Manning, and I also think that pick 6 in the SB will haunt him a bit this next year.
4. I agree, I like Stafford and I can see him being Top 10, he did drop out of my rankings when I realized Big Ben wasn’t on the list, but he is the young QB to watch.
5.I agree (shudders) I would rather Romo then McNabb, mostly because of his age. However, I admit that Romo should be higher and that I just couldn’t get my hatred for him off my back when I wrote that.
Where i agree with Rivers over Schaub as the better QB, based on their teams i gotta go with Schaub. Especially when you consider that the only real wide out threat for the Chargers (Jackson) states he’s willing to miss most of the season holding out. Also the Chargers just released a statement regarding their willingness to trade Jackson.
You also have no idea how effective their running game will be, with Mathews an unproven commodity and Sproles, who hasn’t truly been anything more than a explosive change of pace back since he was drafted. I personally think they’ll be ok, but that’s purely speculatory.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
My Top 5 Exactly . . .
. . . then I’d swap Rivers and Schaub.
McRib would not be in my Top 10, at all.
I also wouldn’t have made the really dumb, wildly premature, claptrap comment about Tebow.
Other than that, decent first outing.
"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’
I would switch Flacco and Ryan
With Manning and Romo, cause Flacco and Ryan still have a lot to prove. But other then that, mostly agree. That 15 spot could be just about anyone though, Orton, Young, Henne, there are a lot of guys who could be there.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
QB rankings?
- Brady should be lower. He’s starting on a decline, he may have two good seasons left.
- I agree with picks 1 and 2, obviously, but 3-5 would be Rodgers, Brady and Rivers. Don’t underestimate Phillip Rivers. He’s going to play in a Super Bowl in the next 5 years.
- Out: Campbell, Young, Eli Manning; In: Palmer, Henne, Alex Smith. What? Alex Smith? Yes. The 49ers are gonna be the turnaround team in the NFC, and the O-line got better in the draft, albeit I rank Smith at #15 and no higher.
- Stafford still has to prove himself. He’s getting there. And who would put Leinhart on this list? You may as well put Hasselbeck or Garrard on the list if you think Leinhart’s gonna break out.
by Jee on Jul 5, 2010 10:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Brady has one more year left in the top 3 then he drops imo. I will underestimate Rivers, maybe its the coaching, but I don’t like him. Palmer and Henne were the runner ups, it coulda been either of them to grab 15, but I thought the fact that the Titans were 0-6 without him last year then 8-2 with him, pushed him over the edge. Smith? No. If the 49ers win in the NFC west, it’s because the rest of the division is either rebuilding, or going through the suck stages. Stafford I think has potential to do good and I think he will have a good season next year. Leinart sucks, hes not on my list. I don’t know where you saw him but hes not on here.
I did try and be as unbiased as I could.
I am human though. Although I did admit to being too biased on Romo, he should be top 10. Didn’t think that when I wrote it and I do apologize for that. Otherwise I think the rankings are great, and are my own opinion which of course contains bias.
Jon don't worry about DIRE WOLF...
…he’s a Cowboys fan, therefore by definition a truly clueless git. ;-)
So, DW, if it were your list, who’d be on top? Romo??? Because, well, we all know you’re the soul of unbiased, right?
Fact: Drew Brees is by every measurable way, the best QB in the NFL right now, and you can’t STAND it, because he’s a New Orleans Saint. Come to terms with that fact.
Here’s another one: Tony Romo will never add a Lombardi trophy to the team’s collection. (I am biased, but at least I admit it – I freakin’ HATE your team.)
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Jul 8, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
HA! Got it.
After you mentioned it I checked his profile and your right. Gonna have to remember next time he complains about me, means I did something right.
but maybe Jon would be worried about AIRWOLF
"The good news is we're gonna sign you to the roster. The bad news is you're 26 pounds overweight and I gotta fine you, and that's gonna cost you more than you'll make for the playoff game." Sean Payton to Deuce McAllister, January 2010.
by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
This is about how I'd rank them:
1. Brees
2. Rodgers
3. P. Manning
4. Brady
5. Schaub
6. Romo
7. Rivers
8. McNabb
9. Favre
10. Roethlisberger
11. Flacco
12. Cutler
13. Palmer
14. E. Manning
15. Ryan
16. Smith
17. Kolb
18. Leinart
19. Henne
20. Campbell
21. Stafford
22. Moore
23. Young
24. Hasselbeck
25. Garrard
26. Sanchez
27. Quinn
28. Freeman
29. Delhomme
30. Cassel
31. Bradford
32. Edwards
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
You’ve got VY under a few guys he has clearly outperformed so far(Matt Moore, Matt Leinart, Alex Smith) but other than that, pretty solid list.
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
Agree with Northfan
Also, I’m not willing to put Leinart and Kolb higher than 20 considering they have limited experience outside of college
Re: Alex Smith, you have to look at the second half of last season, when he was operating out of the spread. He’s a Top 10 QB over the last 8 games. Granted, they’re fairly balanced on offense when Gore is healthy and I don’t really see Smith maintaining that level of play over an entire season, but you never know. Ted Ginn should help stretch the field some, too.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
You’re right though, based on past performance, Young deserves to be in the middle of the pack somewhere. I’m probably underrating him.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Cutler could probably be a few spots lower based on his TD:INT ratio last year.
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
me too
And the rankings are for 2010, not prior years. If you think everything is based on 2009, we would welcome you to our fantasy football league, Noreasterfan.
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Noreaster?
I’m from Ontario, so I guess that’s kind of East?
As for the rankings, yes I understand they’re for 2010, not for 2009. However, and yes Martz did great things in St. Louis, I don\t think he’ll have much of an effect on Cutler. We need to remember that Kurt Warner had some pretty stellar talent around him, whereas the Bears just don’t have it. Holt and Bruce are replaced with Knox and Hester, Faulk with a mix of an old Chester Taylor and a Matt Forte who needs to prove his sophomore season was the fluke, not his rookie season. All in all, I see it being another loooooong season for Cutler and Co.
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
I don\t think he’ll have much of an effect on Cutler.
BOOM you’re on the list.
pretty stellar talent around him, whereas the Bears just don’t have it.
There’s that 2009 viewpoint again. Knox, Hester, and Aromashodu. You’ll know those names better by November.
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They also drafted Juaquin Iglesias from OU in the 3rd round. On top of which, there’s Rashied Davis, Earl Bennett (Cutler’s go-to guy at Vandy) and undrafted Freddie Barnes, who broke Randy Moss’s NCAA record for most receptions in a season. There’s plenty of potential talent there, it’s just untapped to this point.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
There’s plenty of potential talent there, it’s just untapped to this point
thats what she said
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Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
I feel honoured to finally be on the list.
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
You forgot the sarcasm font.
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No sarcasm meant.
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
Well then you’re welcome to be on the list.
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see, the list is inviting and welcoming and a warm and fuzzy facet of CSC...
bringing us closer together as a community, bit by bit
"The good news is we're gonna sign you to the roster. The bad news is you're 26 pounds overweight and I gotta fine you, and that's gonna cost you more than you'll make for the playoff game." Sean Payton to Deuce McAllister, January 2010.
by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Florio ranks Brees at top
My personal order: Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Schaub, Romo, Rivers.
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I'm not going to get into this too much ...
… but I think Matt Moore should be somewhere from 13-15, at least until he can prove he is consistently a good QB. By week 5 or 6, he should be higher.
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