CSC All-Time Saints Team Election: Free Safety
by Dave Cariello on Jul 19, 2010 6:00 AM CDT
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PrintThe moment has arrived to finish out the defensive side of our CSC all-time Saints team by voting for the final open position, free safety. Just in case you missed the nomination post yesterday, get yourself caught up right here.
Based on your discussions yesterday, the overwhelming majority seem to feel Darren Sharper should not be included on the ballot. With no strong support for any other player nominations, the ballot will remain unchanged leaving only Tommy Myers and Gene Atkins to choose from.
The polls are officially open and will remain so for exactly 48 hours which means they will close at 6am on Wednesday, July 21st. You only get one vote so make it count. You can make a difference. If you've never voted in a CSC poll to date, now is the perfect time to start. Be sure to tell everyone you know to come on over and vote as well.
As always, the comment section is open for more discussion about these great players and the way things used to be.
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I vote for Myers, I don’t think Gene was a bad player but Tommy deserves it.
Sharper!
Ha ha, just kidding. I don’t think he would have won anyway, but I wouldn’t have had a problem with him being on the ballot. Doesn’t really matter anyway. Tommy is deserving and I voted for him and will again unless Sharper plays another 3-5 yrs with the Saints and has results like this past years performances. Then it might be a contest.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte
riiiight
yeah, i’m gonna go ahead and vote for Darren Sharper…and p.s. are you freaking kidding me? i’ve only been watching the saints since 1990…Darren Sharper made INT’s and scored TD’s…the only FS in my fanhood life to consistently do it…this shouldn’t even be a question
by A DOG NAMED DEUCE on Jul 19, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
By consistently
You mean that he made ints and returned them for tds for only 1 season? Is that consistency? Oh. And his level of play dropped as the season wore on. I do understand that injuries played a role in Sharper not being able to get ints
by Ezio_Auditore on Jul 19, 2010 12:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
When Sharper gets more than 36 INTs in his career as a Saint then I’ll talk about him being more deserving of the spot than Tommy Myers.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
I wasn’t around for Tommy Myers…quick question, what was the Saints record while he was manning center field? i’m big on averages…like Sharper’s average total for INT’s and TD’s per season as a Saint…..
by A DOG NAMED DEUCE on Jul 20, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be fine, if the two were in the same ballpark, as far as number of years played. You can’t possibly go by averages with that small of a sample. Regardless of team, how many player in the league have EVER averaged what Sharper managed last season over a 10 year stretch? Paul Krause, the NFL career leader in INTs, averaged 9.125 INTs per season over 16 seasons. That’s just barely nudging past Sharper’s one year totals. Conversely, you have forgotten players that have tallied 9 or more INTs pretty much every season, throughout history. Hell, just this past season, three other guys equalled Sharper’s mark, including Jairus Byrd. Do you think Jairus Byrd would be in the running for All-Time greatest Bills FS? Better question: do you think anyone will know who the eff Jairus Byrd is, 43 years from now? If I had to guess, he’s a flash in the pan performer, who will go on to have a so-so career, probably with another NFL team. And no one outside of Buffalo will remember him. Which is pretty much what you have today in Dave Whitsell as a Saint. Which is pretty much what you WOULD have in Sharper, if you flipped those 43 years of history on its head, like an hourglass and ignored his non-Saints career.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
sure…1 season…greatest season for a NOLA FS in the last 20 years…no question. what’s the point of a FS? ball hawk, help out in zone D…
TD’s & INT’s…TD’s & INT’s
by A DOG NAMED DEUCE on Jul 19, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
fixed it for ya… “greatest season for a NOLA FS in the last 20 43 years”
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Write in vote
Malcom Jenkins, he’s gonna be our best FS ever. Nah just kidding. Tommy Boy all the way on this one.
by cbkao on Jul 19, 2010 2:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Tommy Boy or Mean Gene?
Voted for Tommy. Who? Tommy.
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
I don't know
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 19, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
livin' right, boys, livin' right
somebody up there likes me and blessed me with the “Wit of the Ages”
you’re welcome
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
Not a big vote total this time around
I guess everyone is tired and just wants to wrap this thing up.
Will we do it again next year after we TwoDat?
It was worth the wait.
All saintsationals team?
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
It's only day one
Actually, I think we’re a bit ahead of the last election for DT.
They’ll all come out of the woodwork when we get to RB and QB.
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 19, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we'll end up with around 250 people voting for this one
and 500+ voting for Brees and Deuce soon
We’ve already seen CP’s QB list, so here’s my RB list of finalists:
George Rogers
Chuck Muncie
Reuben Mayes
Dalton Hilliard
Deuce McAllister
And Deuce will be the winner.
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
Of these, Tony Galbreath is not mentioned and should be, he’s in the Saints HoF.
Chuck Muncie and his eyeglasses, in defiance of Coach Stram’s edict that he be fitted for contacts, is not in the Saints HoF and shouldn’t be, and should not be on the list. His numbers aren’t that great and I’m annoyed by the reverential treatment he gets here on CSC. My impression is that he was and is hostile to New Orleans and the Saints organization. Not a guy to honored.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
I disagree. I think it’s a travesty that he isn’t in the Saints HOF. First 1000 yd rusher in team history, 1st Pro Bowl RB, 1st Pro Bowl MVP, led the team in rushing three times, something only McAllister and Rogers have exceeded, franchise’s all time leading rusher and TD scorer at the time he left.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Also, Pete Finney has called Muncie the most athletic player in team history and he’s on the HOF selection committee, so I would think he knows a thing or two about what it takes to be “great”.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Mr. Finney has seen a lot of Saints games over a long period of time. That’s why he’s on the committee. Certainly not because of his journalistic acuity, or his ability to size up talent.
Hence, Muncie is not in the Saints HoF. Cooler heads have prevailed.
Good times are comin',
but they sure comin' slow.
and I think his son (Tim Finney) is on the Saints' medical staff
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
Good list. I would add Mario Bates, Ricky Williams and Tony Galbreath. Galbreath was already included with the FBs, so that one’s a bit debatable. Bates and Williams each led the team in rushing three times. That’s more than Hilliard or Mayes and equal to Muncie. Like him or not, Ricky was the face of the franchise during his years here and started over Deuce. He’s also the only back with consecutive 1,000 yd seasons besides McAllister and the first Saints back to do so. He can’t possibly be excluded, imo.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Growing up 37 was the man.
I wouldn't disagree by stealing it either though, you know...
we got the black masks on... we got to get out of here. Hopefully
the police don't catch us on the way out.---Roman Harper
when Muncie was on our team I was a kid (born in 1971)
I had no idea he was involved with cocaine or anything like that until my Dad told me (after we traded him) that he had trouble with “putting stuff up his nose” and I had no idea what he meant by that.
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
I was a pretty naive kid, too. and I can be a pretty naive adult as well. Aw shucks.
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
Congrats to my all-time favorite Saints player.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Hey Dave
Why do you hate Tommy so much that 7 days after closing he’s still not on the All Time list?
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