Accountability Index Updated
by stujo4 on Jul 19, 2010 11:39 AM CDT
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PrintIt's been about a month, so time for a review. Only a few new entries, no new resolutions. Hyperlinks direct you to the evidence. Be sure to give me your suggestions, I really enjoy typing "Request Denied".
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Apr 29 |
Skeptical of rotoworld report that Jammal Brown will be traded in the offseason |
Rotoworld is awesome |
Traded June 19th |
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May 3 |
Objection to rotoworld opinion (Jenkins stays at corner) after Sharper's signing for 2010 |
Depends on Sharper making the team. I agree that Jenkins moves to S as soon as Sharper is off the roster |
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May 6 |
Objection to Sharper's contract: $2M if he makes 53 man roster, wk 1 |
I love Frenchie. Frenchie don't love Sharper. |
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June 3 |
Sharper won't start in game 1 |
Sharper's not too old to prove a point |
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May 4 |
PJ Hill gets picked off the waiver wire and we have to have a party |
I was a fan of Mike Bell. PJ Hill, you're no Mike Bell. |
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June 16 |
Not too worried about losing Bell. (Hans: PJ Hill not a replacement) |
Split Bell's carries between all RB's: How is that better than 2009?? |
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July 11 |
Breakout year for PhotoOp, 4 yds/carry, leaves as free agent 2011 |
Kind of a long term issue, like PhotoOp himself |
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June 11 |
CP thinks PT and Reggie both gone in 2011 |
Outrageous at first, now looking prophetic |
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Apr 25, May 19 |
CP favors Julius Jones as a Saint |
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May 24 |
CP thinks AP1 (former Bear Adrian Peterson) is as good as Mike Bell |
I doubt that AP1 is on an NFL roster in 2010, let alone on the Saints' |
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May 14 |
Condemned Ricky Williams draft day trade, applauded Tebow draft day trade |
As if Tebow had more potential than Ricky. As if. |
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May 19 July 7 July 15 |
Carolina Panthers are not in steep decline in 2010 |
Lame duck coach: Running game won't help that 12-4? Child, please |
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May 22 |
Favre leads team to SB 45 win starting with a win over the Saints on Sep 9 |
Something about wearing Favre's jersey for 3 months if the Saints lose. Not too worried about it. |
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June 28 |
Matt Ryan is a middle of the pack QB |
Matty is primed for a breakout year, career highs in TD's and yards |
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May 23 |
Harry Coleman makes the team |
Who in the hell is Harry Coleman? LSU? LSU?? |
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June 28 |
Falcons more likely to have losing record than Panters |
I just can't see this happening. |
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June 16, 18 |
Chargers win the AFC west in 2010 |
It's 2010. And what about Tebow? Hmmm? |
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June 28 July 6 |
Questions about Mike Martz's ability to improve Jay Cutler's performance |
Devin Aromashodu is the new Mike Furrey-2006 |
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July 8 |
Saints will finish as 3rd seed in NFC in 2010 |
Extracted from rectum |
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May 17 |
Believes Payton was addicted to Vicodin and Loomis aided cover-up |
Forty Creek fueled raving, but not yet retracted; waiting to be served libel suit papers |
This FanPost was written by a reader and member of Canal Street Chronicles. It does not necessarily reflect the views of CSC and its staff or editors.
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I have to defend Jeff's Prediction of Saints being 3rd seed in the NFC.
First of all it is not that bad of a prediction. Secondally he did not use fanatic bias when comming to his conclusion.
If he is wrong it will only mean they finished better overall.
Saints are going to be playing several superbowl caliber teams this season. Vikings, Cowboys, Ravens. Cowboys and Ravens are later on in the season. We also have to play the Falcons twice. Sweeping the Falcons again statistically has the same chance of the Lions winning the superbowl.
The Saints will have at least two divisional losses this year. The will lose against the Vikings or the Cowboys this year. So far that is 3 NFC losses. They will also most certainly lose one game to the AFC North division. This leaves a small margin of error the rest of the season.
Besides last year, there has always been a matchup the Saints have lost not because of theit opponent’s abilities, but rather our ability to “close the deal on them” I call this the Joker game of the regular season. If they can avoid a Joker game they would be seeded 2nd. If they cannot avoid the “Joker” depending if it is an AFC Loss of NFC loss would determine if they get bumped from 2nd seed to 3rd seed or possibly 4th.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
You just made the list, Jeremiah.
Sweeping the Falcons again statistically has the same chance of the Lions winning the superbowl.
Wait’ll you see the frogs fall from the sky.
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
stu,
is your opposition in favor of the Lions winning a SB, or the destruction of the falcons?
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Jul 19, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I think the Saints could possibly sweep the Falcons this year. Possibly. It’s a much longer shot for the Lions to go all the way. But Jesus1000 works in strange ways.
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
all time saints-falcons matchups
37W 45L .451%
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Jul 19, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
History never repeats, I tell myself before I go to sleep.
Don’t say the words you might regret
I’ve lost before, you know I can’t forget
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
If history never repeats its self, then what chance do the Saints have to be the next back to back superbowl winners?
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Jul 19, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I went to the fortune teller
To have my fortune read
I didn’t know what to tell her
I had a dizzy feeling in my head
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
Saints are going to be playing several superbowl caliber teams this season. Vikings, Cowboys, Ravens. Cowboys and Ravens are later on in the season.
i disagree, those teams are “playoff” caliber teams. those three teams have to face a “superbowl” caliber saints.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 19, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
as do every other team we face in the regular season.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Jul 19, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember when Dick Nolan tried to run Landry's Flex defense in New Orleans?
He didn’t have the personnel. Didn’t work. I don’t believe Mike Martz will be able to turn Jay Cutler into WonderBoy, either. Put me down for some of that action.
It was worth the wait.
I'd love a piece of that too
Don’t see it happening. I lost respect for Martz in 2000 after his Rams beat us in week 16 and predicted they would come down to NOLA the week after for the Wildcard round and beat us again. I believe his phrase was, “Sure, we’ll just go down and, Merry Christmas.” Hakim dropped the ball, so it did turn out to be a very merry Christmas for us. Thanks Mike!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 19, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Did the Rams offense under perform in that game? I’m failing to see the parallel between a loss and QB development.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
You're trying to read too much into my comments
My point was that I don’t much care for Martz or his abilities. I’m sure you disagree. The mentioning of him reminded me of the Rams game in 2000 and his comments before that game, so I posted what I did. To be honest, my posting really has nothing to do with his new job with the Bears. The main reason I doubt he’ll have success there is because he hasn’t really had much success since that 1999 season when the Rams won the SB. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong this time. I don’t pretend to be an all-seeing genius.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 19, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ludicrous. Kurt Warner (undrafted), Marc Bulger (6th round) and Jon Kitna (undrafted) have all had success under Martz. Three students of the same guru are ALL overlooked, yet are able to be coached up, yet one that is drafted 11th overall isn’t considered to be in the same class going in? I would think the odds of your analysis of Cutler being off base are much better than the odds of Cutler’s failure under Martz.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 19, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He didn’t help Kitna throw fewer INT’s – Martz was in Detroit in 2006 & 2007… 22 INT’s 9 fumbles and 20 INT’s and 6 fumbles for Kitna those two years.
He didn’t do anything to help Bulger with his INT problem either. Martz coached Bulger through 2005. 71 INT’s in 44 games.
And Warner’s INT numbers got worse as he spent more time under Martz.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Two questions
1. Am i the Jeff in question (even if I’m not, i obviously agree with the 3rd in the NFC though once again I obviously i hope for better).
2. Whose rectum did we extract it from, mine or CP’s?
You're the only Jeff I know
Hey, two consenting adults… have fun, you guys.
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
by stujo4 on Jul 19, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the Saints finished 4th or lower, we get to use your rectum, tough guy.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Rectum hell, damn near killed ’em.
"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
by shn_hldn on Jul 20, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
About Matt Ryan being a middle of the pack QB
according to his numbers he is. You say he’s primed for a big year, but as of yet that still hasn’t happened. He’s not trapped behind anyone on a depth chart, he’s got a Hall of Fame TE and an excellent WR, so if he played average last year, he was average last year.
You say he’s primed for a big year, but as of yet that still hasn’t happened.
That’s correct. They haven’t played the 2010 season yet.
so if he played average last year, he was average last year.
That is also correct. But you omitted the fact that he was playing hurt last year. And that he was ranked 11th of QB’s in 2008, according to M-E.
M-E also said:
that’s pretty much where he belongs: a quarterback who will have an occasional elite-level game, but will spend most of his time bobbing around in the middle of the pack.It’s an easy bet for Matt Ryan to perform better than middling this year, barring injury.
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
So his celing when he isn't hurt is 11th place?
The middle is technically 16. I’d assume “middle of the pack” would be five below and above making it the 11th-21st ranked quarterbacks. I’m sorry, I just don’t understand the hype with this guy so early. He had one pretty solid season where only one-third of the NFL quarterbacks played better than him and one mediocre one. I admit he’s got potential- but I’d say that about any of the middle-of-the pack Qb’s like Ryan.
He had one pretty solid season
His ROOKIE NFL season. Pretty remarkable.
I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth.
True, but that's not a tell-all sign of a quarterback's greatest.
Look at Rick Mirer and and Greg Cook (that was from injuries, but it still applies).
Rick Mirer never had a year as good as the two that Matt Ryan has already had. Who in the hell is Greg Cook?? No need to struggle. It’ll be over soon.
ESPN’s Pat Yasinskas believes 3,500 passing yards and 25 touchdowns is a conservative estimate for Matt Ryan’s 2010 numbers.
We agree.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
With his current history those conservative numbers are what I'd expect
which would make him a middle-of-the-pack QB.
And wait, isn't that what I said?
“I admit he’s got potential- but I’d say that about any of the middle-of-the pack Qb’s like Ryan.”
With those average QB numbers you and Pat posted as conservative estimate which has the potential to go higher, how is that any different than any other middle-of-the-pack QB who has the potential to play at a higher level? As it is, those numbers just say Ryan is what I’ve been saying he is- average with the potential to play better just like all the other middle-of-the-pack QBS.
Hey Mr. Hedgehog, stop it with the waffling and weaseling
The original beef was by M-E, in that he objected to Matt Ryan being primed for a “breakout year”. That does not mean top 5 QB’s overall. It means best career year, notably better than previous years, to me.
“Middle of the pack” to me means 15th or worse. Ryan was at 21 last year, in yards.
He’ll do much better this year, with 3500 yards a “conservative” estimate, meaning he probably will do better, which would put him inside the top 15, which is not “middle of the pack”.
You’re on the list, and you’re not coming off no matter how fancy a dance you perform for me.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
I'm sorry if your definition of "middle"
means “worse than middle.”
I’d assume that the middle would extent to equal lengths from the midpoint, 16. But we’re talking semantics. Or basic math. Whatever.
Either way, here’s a link to a good Fanpost at the Falcoholic that really spells out how Matt Ryan could perform next year and why. It’s not necessarily backing up my argument, but it fits into the discussion.
http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2010/7/20/1578002/the-mystified-sophomore-slump
Now, for the “Mr. Hedgehog” name calling- well, I really don’t know what to think about that. I guess you can go ahead. My feelings towards hedgehogs are pretty neutral.
to be clear I believe Ryan will perform better than he did last year- but only up to an average level- to be ranked anywhere from the 11th ranked Qb- to the 21st ranked Qb. Which according to Math is a middling quarterback.
STOP HEDGING
Sorry about the name. But stop being it.
Good times are comin',
but they sure comin' slow.
he has come out of the gate faster than drew
not that that automatically means he will one day be better, just saying that the falcons won’t be drafting phillip rivers at next years draft.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 19, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all a waste of 0s and 1s
It’s a fine pursuit for summer and fall and winter and spring.
Keep it going, Stu!
Also, may I have a burger with a side of fried shrimp quiche, and a Hubig’s apple pie for dessert?
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
ps - thanks for updating my part in the RBBC section - we'll see, my brother, we'll see
Maybe Canfield will run 80+ times out of the wildcat for a 5.1 ypc average…(that’d give us 400 yards of rushing out of nowhere, man)
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Surprised I'm not on it
for my claim we will lead the next year in sacks.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
just wait
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
by Hans Petersen on Jul 19, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
my multiple ex wives
would say I all ready am.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
WOW
And this whole time I have only had my multiple personalities to tell me I’m crazy.
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 20, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Would that count as a "group consensus?"
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 20, 2010 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you forgot CP
" Greg Williams one and done- won’t be back next year" based upon poor results on the defensive end in just one year of coaching………….well, I guess that was back in the winter,so it doesn’t count. But I am surprised no one has called him on it ( or maybe I missed).
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Yeah, I seem to remember this. What up, Stu?
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 19, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he had only signed a one year contract. I still don’t think he’ll be re-signed, whenever it does in fact expire.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I've always agreed with this
I was the guy wringing his hands, worried that he wouldn’t be back in 2010, contract or not.
If you think GDub’s career aspirations are satisfied by winning a Super Bowl or two as a defensive coordinator, then you have not been paying attention.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
but he learned his lesson
he is not going to leave to coach a team in a terrible position like the bills or raiders… he will wait for a good coaching job to open up. or maybe he has realized that he could be the next dick lebeau or monte kiffin and avoid the stress and expectations that go along with being the head coach. making 1- 1.5 mil a year as a top assistant coach is a very solid living.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 20, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
1- 1.5 mil a year as a top assistant coach is a very solid living.
I suspect he does not only want to make a solid living. I’m guessing he wants to be Buddy Ryan, only with success as a head coach.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
i think so too
but i have no idea what he wants
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 20, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
This is what I’m hoping for and it’s not totally outside the realm of possibility that he’d be content in simply being one of the all-time great DC’s alongside LeBeau and Kiffin. His ambition may be higher than that, though. We’ll just have to wait and see. I too was thinking that CP’s prediction of him leaving was to be based on poor performance and not simply him moving on to a head coaching job. I wish I wasn’t too lazy to look up all of his posts on the matter. I think there was more to it than simply this.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 20, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a combination of the two. Lack of improvement in the “yards given up categories”, personal ambitions … and money demands. Payton’s not going to keep giving up chunks of his salary to keep him around. And if he’s not improving the defense outside of forced turnovers, I really don’t think anyone should be bending over backwards to keep him. It’s not like the guys he taught are going to forget how to strip and recover. I think he’s emphasizing TOs heavily right now, because he realizes he doesn’t have the overall defensive talent necessary to compete by forcing 3-and-outs otherwise. Which is all well and good, I just don’t think that’s going to carry you very far over the long haul. Not consistently, anyway. And not enough to have a penny piching owner convinced that we need the guy around at any cost.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Speaking of which, if you go back and look at predictions from when Williams first came on board, most people were talking dramatic improvement in passing yards and running yards given up in 2009. “Top 15 easy, probably even Top 10.” Heard it all the time. We all pretty much agreed that forced turnovers were going to spike, because that was the agressive style of play he was preaching from Day 1. I said at the time that I didn’t think there’d be major improvement in the two “yards surrendered” statistical categories and there wasn’t. The biggest counter argument anyone could muster was “he’s not Gary Gibbs”. Well, they were right, he’s not Gary Gibbs. He’s Gregg Williams. And these first year results basically reflect the statistical improvement of the Jaguars from 2007 to 2008; negligible outside of takeaways. You can only do so much with mediocre personnel. On the plus side, we’ve spent our last two first round picks on DBs. Now all we need are some disruptive OLBs, more consistent play from of our DL … insert carryover 2006 wishlist here. We’re definitely still a work in progress on taht side of the ball and likely will remain one after Williams hits the road.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Hey put me in on M-E’s line on “Matty Ice”. I’ve said it plenty of times, he’s good, not great. Maybe he will be the latter someday, but he’s not remotely there yet and the blather on him to date is seriously overblown and premature.
BOOM done.
Reminder: It is 2010. See above.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
SCORE!!!!!
I finally made the big time – name in lights, movie stars, and the Accountability Index, ain’t life grand?
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Jul 20, 2010 1:02 AM CDT reply actions
Yep. I think I can see it up there just left of center ~
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 20, 2010 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Re: Cutler and the Bears … no playoffs, but they’ll win at least 3 division games. Meaning they’ll knock off either Minnesota or Green Bay (possibly both) at least once. Mark it down.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Hey, start your own list
I only record the things that annoy me. And I pretty much agree with you on this one.
I'm a black bat, baby
Bangin' on your window pane.
Well, I'm a black bat, babe, I need my high octane.
We need a Bold Predictions thread. Kind of like we do each week with the Saints, only don’t limit it to three. And don’t limit it to the Saints, either. The person with the most correct predictions within one post, without getting any wrong within that post, would win a prize of some sort. So, if you wanted to rattle off 20 predictions, feel free. Just know that one wrong and your entire post would be for nought.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
YES!
Let’s call it the ‘Rectal Extraction’ Record
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 28, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL. You, sir, are PC to the max!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 28, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
After thought ~ could something posted there be "Rec'd" or would that be redundant?
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 28, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think even get passed the Lions in that division
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
Stagger,Stagger..Crawl,Crawl or was it....
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Actually, I was trying to say that I couldn’t understand how anyone could applaud the Ricky Williams trade while simultaneously condemning the Tebow trade, but it is a true honor to be on the big board. Its a pick I’ll stand behind.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
more weaseling
So Ditka trades an entire draft and a half to get Ricky. We know the experiment failed.
No, we don’t know that. But it appears to be your judgment. I think my assessment is accurate.
Good times are comin',
but they sure comin' slow.
Oh I’m not denying that I called Ricky a failure in New Orleans. I’ll repeat that one any day.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
4221 total yards from scrimmage and 18 tds in 3 years. The guy can’t help what people spent to get him. Fact is if you look at his on the field production, he was anything but a failure. He simply wasn’t what some had hoped he would be.
And he never got over 4.0 yards per carry in N.O.. You just don’t see many running backs hang around as a feature back if they can’t consistantly get over 4 YPC unless they do something else really well. I guess it is wrong to call him a failure in comparison to every RB that has ever played the game. He has hung around for longer than most. But in terms of Ricky Williams living up to what Ricky Williams should have been in New Orleans, yes, he was a failure.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jul 21, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
“But in terms of Ricky Williams living up to what Ricky Williams should have been in New Orleans, yes, he was a failure.”
Yes, 5th overall picks should live up to the hype surrounding them. Only 2nd overall picks should be accepted at face value, regardless of how often they underperform.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
You just don’t see many running backs hang around as a feature back if they can’t consistantly get over 4 YPC unless they do something else really well.
And Ricky Williams is one of them. Getting ready to start his 10th year in the league.
Good times are comin',
but they sure comin' slow.
In defense of Ricky’s YPC number, early on in his career (Saints and especially early Dolphins) he had a huge number of rushing attempts.
In Miami those first two years, he was a freakin’ workhorse… 430 and 442 touches (rushing and receiving).
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
That and Ricky Williams has only once in 6 seasons with the dolphins gotten less than 4.0 yards per carry (I don’t count the year he rushed only 6 times before getting his chest stomped on by a Steeler).
That and since the time Ricky Williams has left the Saints he has averaged over 1400 yards from scrimmage a season with 3 of those 5 years playing being part time duty with over 10 tds a season. You can’t say it was the dope (that’s a pathetic excuse) as he had 2216 and 1723 yards from scrimmage the two seasons immediately following with 27 tds while averaging 4.16 yards per carry.
You can’t blame the man….the man PROVED himself when he left N.O. Both before and after the drug use. Maybe we should look harder on the scheme and blocking that took place here rather than blaming Ricky Williams.
You can’t blame the man….the man PROVED himself when he left N.O.
His 3 years in N.O. equal to Deuce’s first 3 years with N.O. Plus, lets not forget he has been a workhorse in the NCAA, over 6k yds and in the CFL, all the while struggling with social anxiety disorder and a bad case of fumblitis in N.O.
"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
If only he could have lived up to Master P's contract incentives
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
In the grand scheme of things, how many Ditka picks made a long lasting impact anyway? Turley’s pretty much it. Of course, there’s no telling who they would have selected … I just don’t see much of anything that says they would have made a difference.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I guess you don't recall the second coming of Gary Fencik
Rob everlovin' Kelly
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
by Hans Petersen on Jul 21, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL I do recall. Keith Poole and Cameron Cleeland were both pretty good picks, they just didn’t stick around long.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I knew you would
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
by Hans Petersen on Jul 22, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
recall, I mean
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
by Hans Petersen on Jul 22, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You should update the last column for "Coleman makes the team",,,
…unless you are just cutting ’em some slack in case something happens during training camp.
It's an ankle bracelet, not a halo....
Can someone explain this to the newbie girl?
Sorry!
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Stu is the one to give you the full explanation,
but click on anyone’s name in the chart at the top, and you’ll find the original post in which they say something that Stu disagrees, for example, tlsk1066, scroll down and you’ll find:
D. Sharp…
isn’t playing in the opener… Jenkins will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
by tlsk1066 on Jun 3, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up
followed by a reply from Stu of:
Mr. Tisk added to grudge list….
by stujo4 on Jun 6, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply
BTW, the “grudge list” was Stu’s original name for the “Accountability Index.”
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