CSC All-Time Saints Team Nominations: Kicker
by Dave Cariello on Jul 21, 2010 6:00 AM CDT
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PrintYou probably thought we'd be moving on to selecting an exciting position like running back or maybe even quarterback for our all-time Saints team here at Canal Street Chronicles.
Psyche!!!
We can't just leave out special teams. They are special, after all. So today we need to talk about our all-time kicker. Obviously we've got Morten Andersen. His stats with the Saints are below. But is there anyone else that could possibly give Morten a run for his money if included in an election? Should we even have an election?
If we decide to have a poll, it will open at 6am Central tomorrow morning and will be open for exactly 48 hours, ending on Saturday, July 24th.
I now open it up for any other nominations if you think someone else should be considered for the position. Or we can decide to simply forgo any election and officially name him as the all-time Saints kicker. Talk it out below and let me know your opinion. I would also love to hear some personal rumination from our readers who've actually watched these guys play. Remember, this isn't just about choosing a player but allowing readers to share their memories of these players and educating those of us who never had a chance to see them.
Morten Andersen
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 217 lbs.
D.O.B.: 8/19/1960
College: Michigan St.
NFL Experience: 25 seasons
Seasons with Saints: 1982-1984
Notables: 7-time Pro Bowler & 3-time First-Team All-Pro
0-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ Tot PAT
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM XPA XPM
1982
22
NOR
7
8
0
1
1
3
1
1
5
2
40.0%
6
6
100.0%
1983
23
NOR
K
7
16
0
2
2
8
8
4
3
6
2
4
3
24
18
75.0%
38
37
97.4%
1984
24
NOR
K
7
16
0
9
9
5
4
10
5
3
2
27
20
74.1%
34
34
100.0%
1985*
25
NOR
K
7
16
0
5
4
14
13
12
11
4
3
35
31
88.6%
29
27
93.1%
1986*+
26
NOR
K
7
16
0
1
1
11
11
7
6
6
6
5
2
30
26
86.7%
30
30
100.0%
1987*+
27
NOR
K
7
12
0
3
3
6
6
9
9
12
8
6
2
36
28
77.8%
37
37
100.0%
1988*
28
NOR
K
7
16
0
1
1
12
11
11
8
8
5
4
1
36
26
72.2%
33
32
97.0%
1989
29
NOR
K
7
16
0
8
7
11
10
6
3
4
29
20
69.0%
45
44
97.8%
1990*
30
NOR
K
7
16
0
5
5
6
5
12
8
4
3
27
21
77.8%
29
29
100.0%
1991
31
NOR
K
7
16
0
6
6
13
11
9
6
4
2
32
25
78.1%
38
38
100.0%
1992*
32
NOR
K
7
16
0
10
10
10
8
11
8
3
3
34
29
85.3%
34
33
97.1%
1993
33
NOR
K
7
16
0
2
2
7
7
7
7
14
11
5
1
35
28
80.0%
33
33
100.0%
1994
34
NOR
K
7
16
0
9
9
14
11
10
8
6
39
28
71.8%
32
32
100.0%
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No other nominations should be accepted.
by xen-cuts on Jul 21, 2010 6:20 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd!
With the understanding that Tom Dempsey’s kicking shoe gets honorable mention.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why is this even a question?
Hartley is going to be a good one, but Anderson is THE BEST, and not just for the Saints.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
Morten Andersen
John Carney
Tom Dempsey
Charlie Durkee
All four are worthy to varying degrees. I’m sure some would contend that Garrett Hartley is, as well rolls eyes
Should be a landslide, regardless.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I suppose Doug Brien deserves a mention, being that he played in more games as a Saint than Dempsey and Durkee combined. He’s also third all-time on the team in scoring.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
In 10 or 20 years, Hartley might well be better. If he continues to play as well as he has so far, at least. But unlike other situations when we had basically crap for 40 years and a modern player can come be one of the best in two or three years — or even just one — Morty was rock solid for over a decade
Anybody want to argue for Tom Dempsey and his special shoe?
It is a little indicative of a team’s struggles when a kicker can be the face of a franchise for so long, but Morten Anderson is without a doubt the only option here.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
6-2? 217? You must be joking
I met the guy. Morton Anderson couldn’t be any taller than 5-10, and I seriously doubt he weighed 217 – unless you count his last years, when he began to look as if he spent a lot of time at all-you-can-eat buffets. Compared to the rest of the team, he looked like a jockey.
I know Stu still plays this 45 RPM record every night before falling asleep:
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
They both look like the cop on reno 911
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they could pass for
Andrew Ridgely and George Michael
WHAM!!!! Rec’d it!!!
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
Andersen is one of four kickers to boot three FGs of 50+ yds in a single game and the first to do so.
The other three are all active players:
Connor Barth
Kris Brown
Neil Rackers
Both Brown and Rackers are currently on the Texans’ roster. Barth is with the Buccaneers.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
He’s also one of seven to kick a FG of 60 yds or longer:
Tom Dempsey (63)
Jason Elam (63)
Matt Bryant (62)
Sebastian Janikowski (61)
Morten Andersen (60)
Rob Bironas (60)
Steve Cox (60)
Two others have exceeded that distance in NFL exhibition games:
Ola Kimrin (65) < superb trivia question fodder
John Kasay (61)
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
jesus, pizza
you are doing some crazy research for what should be a slam dunk
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 21, 2010 7:56 AM CDT reply actions
Not often we get to talk about these former players. Figured I may as well get it out of my system.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I'll ditto that...
Thank you CP.
The Saints must repeat so I can watch the Saints win the Superbowl LIVE... Not on vhs two months later....
"we can decide to simply forgo any election and officially name [Morten Andersen] as the all-time Saints kicker."
Yes. Let’s do that. There really is no room for debate.
He is so far ahead of whoever’s in second place that he can’t even see second place from where he’s standing.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
If there's any honor in being nominated for the vote
I’d say put John Carney and Tom Dempsey on the list.
I like this option....
The Saints must repeat so I can watch the Saints win the Superbowl LIVE... Not on vhs two months later....
“No election necessary” is what has ultimately rendered our All-Time defense substandard in a 4-3 scheme, at least in terms of a true MLB. As long as you have worthy candidates, what’s the harm in having an election? What else do we have to debate in July? How many times Sarah can say meow before Thomas Morstead becomes aroused?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Alright meow...
The first 2/3 of that movie are HILARIOUS! (It kinda slacks off at the end.)
Worth a watch, for sure.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
I doubt an election is necessary
but John Carney, Tom Dempsey and Doug Brien all deserve kudos for being solid NFL kickers. Dempsey wasn’t as good as the other two, but he deserves mention for holding the longest kick in NFL history.
by Andrew Juge on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
some stats to consider
Brien had a 82.6% conversion rate as a Saint in 6 years. Morten had 77.6% in 13 years. Carney 82.7% in 7 years. Dempsey played just 2 seasons with the Saints and was at 53.3%.
Morten may have had the Pro Bowl accolades, longevity, and leg strength compared to Brien and Carney, but he didn’t have the accuracy. I’d actually consider Carney over Morten based on these stats. I really would.
by Andrew Juge on Jul 21, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
doug brien deserves some points docked
due to the fact that his crappy kicking (with the jets at the time) kept us out of the playoffs in 2004
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
rec'd Saints-nation
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Jul 21, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way,
what formula are we using to determine that Mort should automatically be in the CSC HOF?
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Jul 21, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No contest
Mort gets my vote by a country mile. Still, Dempsey should be on the ballot too. I would also suggest Carney, but that missed PAT at Jacksonville still haunts me. Oh, what the hell? He’s a good guy, so he should be on there too. It won’t even be close, though. The only way Anderson doesn’t get this is if enough people around here are still bitter about him leaving for Atlanta. I’m not.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions
look at the stats above
Dempsey was god awful except for the 63 yarder. Doug Brien and Carney were much more accurate.
by Andrew Juge on Jul 21, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
True,
But for decades, his record-setting kick to win that game was the highlight of the Saints’ franchise. It deserves at least enough consideration to get him on the ballot. Not saying he should get the vote, though.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
True, but sometimes icon status needs to be taken into account, along with statistics. Joe Namath in the NFL Hall of Fame is a pretty good example of that. His career numbers are shaky due to inuries, but he was the face of the AFL and instrumental in the merger. Etched into the lore of the game, based on his SB III guarantee. Tom Dempsey is a (very) poor man’s Broadway Joe.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Didn't the Dane have his own TV show in New Orleans for a while?
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 21, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions
Found it.
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 21, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
More Stats from Wikipedia
NFL records
At the end of his career Andersen held the following NFL records (As of 2009):
*Most games played (career) – 382
*Most field goals attempted (career) – 709
*Most field goals (career) – 565
*Most points (career) – 2,544
*Most seasons, 75 or more points (career) – 24
*Most consecutive seasons, 75 or more points (career) – 23
*Most seasons, 90 or more points (career) – 22
*Most seasons, 98 or more points (career) – 18
*Most game winning field goals (career) – 103
*Games with 1+ field goals (career) – 299
*Games with 2+ field goals (career) – 178
*Oldest player to score 14 points in a game – 47 years, 133 days
*Oldest player to kick 4 field goals in a game – 47 years, 42 days
*Oldest player to kick 5 field goals in a game – 46 years, 43 days
*Most field goals attempted of 50 or more yards (total) – 84
*Most field goals (50 or more yards) in a season – 8 (tied with Jason Hanson)
*Most field goals (50 or more yards) in a game – 3 (vs. New Orleans, December 10, 1995) (tied with Neil Rackers, Connor Barth, and Kris Brown)
*Most consecutive games scoring (career) – 360
*Most games scoring (career) – 379
*Most consecutive seasons scoring (career) – 23 – tied with Gary Anderson
*Most consecutive calendar years scoring (career) – 26
Team Scoring Records:
*New Orleans Saints- 1,318 points
*Atlanta Falcons – 806 points
(Only player to hold major statisical franchise record for two NFL teams)
*New Orleans Saints – FGs made/attempted: 302/389
*Atlanta Falcons – FGs made/attempted: 184/224
*New Orleans Saints – PATs made/attempted: 412/418
*Atlanta Falcons – PATs made/attempted: 254/256
Pro Bowl records:
*Most points in Pro Bowl (total) – 45 (15 points after touchdown, 10 field goals)
*Most points after touchdown in Pro Bowl (total) – 15
*Most field goal attempts in Pro Bowl (total) – 18
*Most field goals in Pro Bowl (total) – 10
Andersen holds 2nd place in the following NFL records:
*Most PATs attempted (career) – 859 (1st place: George Blanda, 959)
*Most PATs made (career) – 849 (1st place: George Blanda, 943)
*Most field goals (50 or more yards) in a career – 40 (1st place: Jason Hanson, 42)
*Most seasons – 25 (1st place: George Blanda, 26)
*Most seasons, 100 or more points – 14 (1st place: Jason Elam, 16)
*Most games with 5 or more field goals (career) – 9 (John Carney, 11)
The Saints must repeat so I can watch the Saints win the Superbowl LIVE... Not on vhs two months later....
I agree that there are some guys that deserve a mention, but
Morten Andersen is the hands down winner of this spot. I would argue that he should be in the NFL Hall of Fame. HOF voters are against putting special teams guys in the HOF (there’s only one kicker in the Hall), but Andersen should get in.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
We all know who's going to win
But in all fairness and in honor of where they are in the Saints pantheon, we should obviously have Dempsey and Carney on the list.
That being said, this is obviously a forgone conclusion. Much like the Oscars, it’s an honor just to be nominated.
If Carney is the Shawshank Redemption and Dempsey is Pulp Fiction, would Andersen be Forrest Gump? Jk. Andersen’s worthy of winning.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
All great movies
Anderson is more like the Lord of the Rings trilogy, another Oscar winner.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Just the last one, right? I still haven’t seen any of those. Not big on sci fi / fantasy.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Yes, just the last one
But it was given to the last one as a recognition for the entire trilogy and not just the last film. My Dad pretty much raised me to be a Sci Fi geek. He was one himself.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
You mean how it just seems to go on forever?
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Could be
The trilogy lasts about eleven hours if you watch all of the extended edition DVDs back to back to back. Compare that to Mort’s many years in the league and I could see that comparison.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
What if
Anderson ends up being Avatar and Dempsey ends up being The Hurt Locker and steals all the awards that we thought for sure were going to Anderson? Just kidding, had to throw out my own Oscar scenario
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
That would be true except for the fact that everyone who studied and new things about film felt that it was Hurt Locker’s to lose the entire time. Avatar was nothing but CGI glitz with one of the worst stories in history.
“Avatar was nothing but CGI glitz with one of the worst stories in history.”
At least since Pocahontas.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
by coldpizza on Jul 21, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
LMAO!
Case closed, it seems. Cameron just did a Sci Fi version of Pocahontas. I saw the movie and thought it seemed strangely familiar. It seems that in today’s Hollywood all people can do is simply rehash old ideas or make movies based on old TV shows. You know they’re dragging the bottom of the barrel of ideas when they make a movie based on the A Team. I mean, come on. The show was canceled over twenty years ago. I enjoyed it as a kid, but now it just seems ridiculous.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey!!
I loved the A-Team growing up!
Dragging the bottom of the barrel is creating a movie based on the 1997 video game Asteroids.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
blaspahemy!!
A-Team is the s***! and is still relevant today just as dukes of hazard, knight rider, magnum pi, etc. are.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 21, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree about the originals
I have many Dukes episodes on DVD. I loved Knight Rider and Magnum too. I just can’t muster much interest for remakes. Well, except for the Dukes movie. Seeing Jessica Simpson in a bikini was well worth the ticket price. Still, I liked Catherine Bach more.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 21, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
remakes are ok
as long as the dont swap out machine guns for walkie talkies like they did in E.T.
the new a-team movie was entertaining, i dont think they were going for oscars and sundance awards.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 21, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow! And she's carrying Reggie's wallet!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
BOOM!
Oh yeah, Catherine Bach!
Yeah, I’m older than dirt.
by BRSaintsFan on Jul 22, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
And Disney ripped off Dances with Wolves. That story hasn’t been original for quite some time now.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Dances with Wolves.
Pocahantas = Dances with rewriting history into a WTF moment.
Last Samurai = Dances with Geisha.
Avatar = Dances with Aliens.
i havent seen a good amnesia story in a while
does anybody in real life actually get amnesia?
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 21, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d also like to mention that Tom Dempsey chose to remain a N.O. area resident, despite playing for several other teams throughout his career. This includes post Katrina, if I’m not mistaken. He has participated in numerous on field alumni gatherings and is still an avid fan of the team. It wouldn’t at all surprise me, if he frequents this site.
For those too young to remember (including myself):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxTjgFYoU8
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
With all this talk about kickers, nobody caught this?
If we decide to have a poll, it will open at 6am Central tomorrow morning and will be open for exactly 48 hours, ending on Wednesday, July 24th.
But my calendar says July 24th is a Saturday! Sorry, Dave…don’t ban me!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
Here's the FG and PAT stats including years
Charlie Durkee 4 seasons, 51.5% FGs, 98.9% PATs. He was awful. Shouldn’t be included.
Tom Dempsey 2 seasons, 53.3% FGs, 94.2% PATS. He was awful. He made a 63 yard field goal, so if you want to include him based on one kick during a 3 win season, be my guest. Shouldn’t be included in my opinion.
Doug Brien 6 seasons, 82.6% FGs, 99.3% PATs. The dude was automatic. Also has the best PAT % of any Saints kicker. I think he should be included.
John Carney 7 seasons, 82.7% FGs, 98.5% PATs. Say what you will about the missed PAT vs. Jacksonville that cost us the game, the bottom line is the guy is the most accurate kicker in Saints history.
Morten Andersen, 13 seasons , 77.6% FGs, 98.6% PATs. Carney and Andersen have the same PAT rate essentially, with Brien way ahead, and Carney and Brien have have the same FG rate with Andersen way behind.
Based on longevity and accolades, I still think Morten is the man, but I think a vote is in order based on the very solid numbers Carney and Brien both put up. The no love for Brien is pissing me off. The dude was a very solid kicker for us.
Neither Durkee nor Dempsey were awful, compared to league averages at the time. Soccer style kicking wasn’t prevalent back then, as you can see in the Dempsey video. Kickers hit the ball straight on, which means the trajectory seldom concaved or convexed. You were basically at the mercy of the placeholder and the wind. In other words, most missed kicks either fell short or were affected by factors outside of the kicker’s control. Since soccer style took off, it’s become much more of a science. Kickers can put what amounts to English (billiards term) on the ball.
Also, these two kicked outdoors eight more times per season than any of the other three. That plays a huge factor in kicking accuracy, as well. Take a look at Jan Stenerud’s percentages over the years, while keeping in mind that this is one of, if not THE best kicker of his era. You’ll notice that the vast majority of his career was spent outdoors in KC, where his averages lingered at or around 64%. This wasn’t below average or even average at the time. This was EXCEPTIONAL. You’ll also notice that as his career moved into the 80s (when Andersen was first entering the fold), his numbers start to spike.
Why? He began experimenting with the newer technique. He also played in GB at the time, which by now included road games against the Vikings in a Dome (formerly the Met) and the Lions, also indoors. Still later, he played for the Vikings (almost exclusively indoors) and his numbers finally reached Brien/Carney/Andersen era standards. None of that makes Stenerud a substandard kicker. Durkee and Dempsey were run of the mill.
That being said, I think Durkee belongs, based on the fact that he managed to stick around for more than two seasons (in two tenures) and he was the team’s all-time leading scorer (243 pts) until Andersen surpassed him 13 years later. Durkee also played his entire (albeit brief) career with the Saints, something that cannot be said of anyone else on this list.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Just to reiterate, the Saints have played 43 seasons of football. Over 18 of those 43 seasons, Charlie Durkee was their career leader in points scored. Whether his total is impressive 25 years in hindsight is basically irrelevant. Within his era (and well outside of it), it was tops. His record stood for nearly two decades. I honestly feel that’s enough of an accomplishment to get him on this ballot, along with Andersen, Carney, Brien and Dempsey.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Who went on to a productive movie career ~
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I had a Morten Andersen jersey t-shirt. A KICKER'S shirt.
Obviously no vote is necessary.
I still want an honorable mention for Garret Hartley for hitting it dead red in the NFC Championship Game and for his three 40+ FG’s in the Super Bowl. And then I want his honorable mention to have an asterisk for missing the FG to lose to the Bucs in week 16.
How about an asterisk for the special teams in general? If they don’t allow Spurlock to take it to the house, that game doesn’t even make it to OT. Or the offense for sitting on a 17-0 lead the entire second half? Or the front 7, for letting Cadillac Williams look as good as he did at Auburn? Or Gregg Williams, for not putting more heat on their rookie QB throughout the game? There’s a lot of blame that could be tossed around on that one.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Poor, slow, workmanlike, lunch pail Doug Brien from Cal
He toiled in the eras of Mora/Venturi/Ditka/Haslett…and all he did was hardly ever miss.
And I noticed that he kicked 18 of 18 PATs in 1996. Even if you throw in some 2-point conversion attempts that I’m sure we had during the season, that means we barely scored a TD per game that year. What a disaster that year was.
I say, put Brien, Dempsey, Carney, and Morten on the ballot, let’s vote and discuss some more.
Maybe as we vote and comment, folks can find and post football card and/or game photo images of the candidates…you know for FUN!
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
I think that
Doug Brien and Carney should be put on the ballot, but I think in the end it should be Morton. All three had some impressive numbers with the Saints, but look at the list of Morten’s records as posted above by Dan39465. Whoa!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
It ought to be a slam dunk for Morten.
Even if it were a close race with Dempsy, I’d expect Morten to win by at least a half a foot.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
boom-zinga!!
Dang you are funny…
As long as they all “toe” the line.
And what if “Arch”-ie Manning tries to (shoe)horn his way into this race?
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
I'm glad you realized it was meant as humor.
Otherwise, I would appear to be just a caloused heel.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
They all played on the Saints' shoestring budget with their tongues hanging out.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
They accomplished great feets,
and played with a lot of sole.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
LOL! You guys are a kick!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
and it is, it is good, it's good, it's gooooooood
to know you think that. Mercifully, it’s now my bedtime. Good night.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
Good night. You get extra points for going to bed on time.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 21, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Hands down it's Morten.
Taking nothing away from the others that have been mentioned. Mortens leg strength, coupled with the dome patrol days of Jim Finks and Coach Mora had him kicking much more from distances of 40+ yards than many other kickers thus the decline in accuracy. And I don’t see the stats regarding kickoff touchbacks. Morten’s leg provided the team and the fans a confidence I don’t think any of the others provided.
I wouldn't disagree by stealing it either though, you know...
we got the black masks on... we got to get out of here. Hopefully
the police don't catch us on the way out.---Roman Harper
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