The New Orleans Saints All Time Worst Players and Team: Offense
by Andrew Juge on Jul 4, 2010 6:00 AM CDT
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PrintIn the midst of all this celebration and jubilation that follows our team's Super Bowl victory, I have to admit I have a little bit of an empty feeling inside this offseason. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the season to start and I'm burning in anticipation for the September 9th clash with the Vikings. I also couldn't be more elated with how last season ended. But something is different this offseason: there is nothing to really complain about. You see, as a Saints fan for my entire life, every offseason I've been programmed to do the following:
1. Complain about how awful the Saints were the previous year.
2. Talk non-stop about the necessary changes that need to be made.
3. Complain about how the Saints failed to make said suggested changes.
Having the satisfaction of being on top means a happy customer and no thriving for change.
Before you crucify me for being a bad fan, don't tell me you don't feel the same, even if it's just a little bit. So what are we supposed to complain about now? This is where these posts come in. I present to you, in conjunction with your voting for the CSC All-Time Saints Team, the All Time Saints' Awful Team. After reading these you can go back to celebrate while feeling more complete. In fact, these names will probably make you appreciate last season even more.
QB: Heath Shuler - Shuler was the 3rd pick overall in the NFL draft by the Redskins and he played for the Saints under Mike Ditka for just one season in 1997. Shuler posted a Ryan Leaf-esque stat line throwing for just 2 touchdowns and 14 interceptions in 9 starts that season. I'm giving honorable mentions to Danny Wuerffel and Doug Nussmeier, Shuler's backups that season, for playing bad enough to allow Shuler back on the field at different points during the season.
WR: Albert Connell - Another player the Redskins hooked us up with. Connell played for the Saints in 2001 only but was supposed to be a big time addition. The Saints gave him a 5 year, $13 million deal that included a $2.5 million signing bonus to catch 12 passes that season. Apparently that wasn't enough loot for him, because he elected to steal $4000 in cash from Deuce McAllister's locker. I blame him for Deuce's current bankruptcy issues.
WR: Lindsay Scott - The Saints had huge expectations for the UGA star picking him 13th overall in 1982. The guy rewarded them by being completely incapable of catching a cold, or getting open. He scored just one touchdown in four seasons and never had more than 24 catches in a year.
HB: Vaughn Dunbar - Mike Ditka picked Dunbar 1st overall in 1992, and after a subpar 1992 season he blew out his knee. He would come back to fumble his way through two more seasons and end it with a 3.5 yard per carry career average.
FB: Bill Butler - Butler was notorious for being an awful blocker at fullback for the Saints in the early 70's and was known for getting holding penalties called on him on almost every possession. He was supposed to be a playmaker but he only found the end zone rushing once in three seasons.
TE: Irv Smith - The 1993 draft wasn't all bad as it brought the Saints William Roaf, but Smith was a 1st round pick in that draft as well. The Notre Dame product was a mediocre blocker, he was slow, and he dropped more crucial passes than I could ever care to remember. He never scored more than 3 times in one season and he averaged less than 27 receptions per year in his 5 seasons with the Saints. Irv was also the king of false start penalties and was good for at least two a game.
T: Darryl Terrell - Arguably the worst starting left tackle in NFL history.
T: Keno Hills - How Hills remained with the team as long as he did (3 seasons) despite constantly getting beat like a drum was beyond me. Hills was famous in the late 90's for inviting any player he was blocking to positively pummel his quarterback. He was later arrested for heroin possession with intent to distribute while also carrying a fire arm. As overweight as he was I can't imagine he used that much heroin.
G: Royce Smith - 8th pick overall and he played just two seasons for the Saints in 1972 and 1973 before they got rid of him.
G: John Shinners - Shinners was a 1st round pick in 1969, and just the third player drafted by the Saints in the 1st round in team history. He ended up having a fairly lengthy and decent career, but only played two mediocre seasons with the Saints to start before they got rid of him. Should have hung on to this one.
So who did I miss? Any players that didn't make my team that you would have added?
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Good post
when you find the time hit us with the ones that got away.
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
Russell Erxleben
He was going to solve all our punting and placekicking woes. But he sure brought excitement back to the kicking game!
We sure have had our share of doozies chosen by our front office. It’d be good to hear from other CSCers about names they would include.
Big bad Vaughn Dunbar was drafted by Mora and Finks and Kuharich in 1992, not Ditka.
And you’re right, this is a whole new kind of offseason for us…
We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night. -- GW
Thanks
for not coming down on Erxleben his kid reads CSC
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 4, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Graduated from a small school (country) in Tex. less than 70 in class.
good kid but rather bashful about father. Diehard Saint’s fan though.
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
Erxleben - Hook 'em
still seems odd that one of the greatest college kickers ever – a dominant force at Texas – was such a disappointment in the pros
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Should we limit to starting players?
Given all the 2-12 and 1-15 seasons – not to mention the merely mediocre seasons we used to treasure like Super Bowl victories, we have way too many to choose from. That said, I’m suffering from traumatic amnesia. I have a hard time adding to this list.
by Philistine on Jul 4, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
WE do tend to look to the positives
since there was such a vast time span of negatives. Do agree and have the same feeling. Woo! Who! It happened in my life time.
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
"not to mention the merely mediocre seasons we used to treasure like Super Bowl victories"
Only true Saints Fans can understand this. The “traumatic amnesia” part rings a bell also!
You get a rec simply for putting it in the right words.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 4, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Johnathan Sullivan
He too deserves a place on the list. Not sure which of these listed are the worst.
I feel the exact same way this offseason. There’s really nothing to complain about, which seems odd for us. But, I like it and will continue to like it until we have another disappointing season, which will hopefully be many years from now.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 4, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions
Totally agree!
That was the first name that came to mind when I read the title of this post.
The second name that came to mind was Ricky Williams. Good longevity, but too expensive in what it cost the Saints for the future of the franchise.
GEAUX S88S!! Konichiwa!!
LMAO
Renaldo Turnbull ,
He was the guy that quit the team during a game in session
by saints since 67 on Jul 4, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Turnbull was productive, partner
He dropped off a bit at the end, but we’ve had worse—a lot worse—DEs in our history . . .
As a rookie in 1990, Turnbull had nine sacks.
In 1993, Turnbull recorded 13.0 sacks and an interception. He was a Pro Bowl selection that season, which was the best in his career.
In his final three seasons as a Saint, Turnbull recorded 6.5, 7, and 6.5 sacks, respectively.
I met him outside of Canal Villere on Robert E. Lee just a few weeks into his rookie year training camp. It was a little weird; he seemed genuinely frightened of me (even though I was smiling and with my girlfriend). But when he realized that this white guy and tiny half-Japanese girl weren’t going to mug him, he became very pleasant.
"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’
Kenny Burroughs , horrible receiver , wore # 00
by saints since 67 on Jul 4, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
Brett Maxie , Dave Waymer too, Ed Hargett
by saints since 67 on Jul 4, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
My all time least Saints player was that # 42 cornerback that played about 3-4 years here. I think they got him from the Colts ? He was burned every time he went in a game ! I can’t remember his dum name ?
by saints since 67 on Jul 4, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
Toi Cook , unreal , couldn’t make a play anywhere at any time…They called him (toast) cause he was always burnt ! LMAO
by saints since 67 on Jul 4, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions
Terrence Small
Coulda if he had the heart, perfect size.
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
We gotta stop!
This years team is making everyone who’s played before look pale.
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
Can't wait to see Worst Defensive Players
Hello, Jason David and Josh Bullocks…
by Jee on Jul 4, 2010 10:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
"Before you crucify me for being a bad fan, don't tell me you don't feel the same, even if it's just a little bit."
How about you’re wrong. No, i haven’t, for one instant, during this offseason felt anything other than pure joy. The only variable is if it’s the heady giddiness or just plain old contented happiness. Hell, I have a circle of friends who still remind each other that the Saints won the Super Bowl.
Ehh...
I’ve been a Saints fan all my life. That’s 39 f’ing years of dissapointment! I still don’t know how to feel about them winning the SB! But at the same time I know it was one of the most happy and emotional moments of my sporting life. Second only to the Minnesota game that got them there in the first place! As Saints fans we are programmed to be happy about the little acomplishments… such as winning a playoff game. Sad… but true. :)
My worst players? How about the Billy Joes!
"You don't know. You just don't know. You may think you know, but you don't know. And you never will." Jim Mora
I was just telling friends a couple days ago that the strangest part of the Saints being champions isn’t winning the Super Bowl…the strangest part is expecting them to do it again. I’m already used to it.
It was worth the wait.
Dont forget...
How about John Fourcade? Although that guy will always have a special place in my heart for the one great game he played. I agree that Danny AWFUL and Heath SUCKS definately up there as well as the Billy’s Jinxed.
He played decently for the Saints during the 1987 strike replacement games
and then had a 3-game run at the end of 1989 when we won in the snow at Buffalo, then at home against the Eagles, and finally against the Indy Colts to finish 9-7.
You can find Fourcade’s stats here
We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night. -- GW
by Hans Peterson on Jul 4, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
In 1989
We attended a Saints game in the dome (Replacement game) where Fourcade played against the Colts. Say what you will about John, he was fun to watch!
"If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes"
Bum Phillips
I remember
That was when they benched Bobby Hebert for his screw ups. We beat the colts 41-6 and won the 2 previous.
He was fun to watch I agree. Had a great arm too
I never liked Bobby Hebert. There, I said it.
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
Thank you
I never forgave him for screwing the pooch against the Eagles in the playoffs, then blasting fans post-game and saying that he’d sleep well that night.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Worst game ever.
Bobby only played well for Atlanta. He was pretty damned awful with the Saints. And somebody nominated him to the all time team…what a mistake.
That makes 2 of us
He thought he was better than what he really was. Yelling at his players. Choked in playoff games.
He just wasn’t that good
That makes 2 of us Stujo
He had his chances to win a playoff game and failed.
And his attitude toward his players.
He was belligerent to fans, too.
No doubt we were hard on him, but he sucked huge. If he had any talent the defense could have carried his coonass to the Superbowl.
Richard Todd anyone?
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Richard Todd
Had a great arm! Hot and cold.
Had a great game against Dallas in 1984. We lead 27-6 early 4th quarter. Todd got hurt late in the 3rd. stabler came in and it went downhill fast.
That was a heartbreaking overtime loss
Cam Cleeland
was ok when he got on the field, but couldn’t walk and chew gum with hurting himself.
Steve Walsh cost us several years because of what we traded away to get him, but I don’t blame him as much as I blame the front office for that one. I think it was 2 number 1’s, a 2 and a 3 to Dallas for him in the mid 90’s.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte
Wasn't he the heisman winner that year?
What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy
fred thomas
ugh
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
My List
Dave Wilson…. Terrible….Bum Phillips boy
Billy Joes/Wuerfel….Terrible
Benny Ricardo….missed a ton of field goals
Bobby Hebert…Couldn’t win a playoff game, yelled at his players
Steve Walsh….What a joke
Mike Buck QB….Never lived up to his potential
Dave Waymer….Horrible CB but did much better when moved to Safety
Russell Erxleben….The king of punting follies and laughable. I can’t find any follie videos of him anywhere.
Heath Shuler…A bust as bad as Ryan Leaf
Never liked Albert Connell
LMAO
I remember everyone of the players mentioned in here. To me , I have never seen a rotten defensive player like JASON DAVID . Toi Cook was a little close. I have never seen a QB out of Florida Gators that ever was any good in pros. Hey , what about Aaron Brooks , there was a bust. He threw the same speed if you was 5 yards or 50 yards away. He couldn’t read a defense either. Bobby Hebert was never a team guy , (like Favre) , he always blamed everyone else. Archie Manning. I watched him at Ole Miss , Saints,Houston Oilers and Vikings. The only place he did anything was college , he just wasn’t any good in the pros. Everybody says it’s cause of the Saints , hey I watched him play for Bud Grant in Minnesota and he did the same thing as always , get sacked , hold the ball to long. He is the only QB I ever seen get a 50 yard sack in a game , but he did , he just wouldn’t throw the ball away.
jricky70
Fourcade was what people called a (scab). When the NFL players went on strike in the 80’s , they played anyway by using scab players in their place. Me and the wife went to see the Saints/Rams game in the Dome. The Rams got killed by Fourcade , they couldn’t stop him throwing the ball or his scrambling and running with it. The Saints won by about 30 pts . or so.
CHUCK MUNCIE
LOL , heres a guy that used COCAINE while he played. He use to always fumble the ball , so they trade his hinny to the Rams and did same thing there , then they found out why , he had been on heavy drugs since collegs…lol
they traded Muncie to the Chargers and then used the pick to select Rickey Jackson - best trade ever
We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night. -- GW
by Hans Peterson on Jul 4, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He also had the build of an offensive guard. Not very mobile.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 4, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
KENNY STABLER
This guy was great in college (Bama). Hen was great in Oakland. Won a National Title at Bama and a Super Bowl at Oakland. Then he retired and beacme an alcoholic and hung out in bars down in Mobile area , so the Saints went and got him , what a mess , you think Favre looks old , Stabler was a mess.
DAVE COPAY
Heres a guy they caught staring at the other players in the showers all the time , turns out , he was gay
Kopay
He’s not the only gay NFL player. Just one of the first who came out.
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
Aaron Brooks
I wouldn’t say he was the worst….but the biggest "Disappointment? Absolutely! In the year 2000, he had incredible shining moments when he replaced Jeff Blake. He did help us win our first playoff game. And I thought at that time, man this is it! We finally got a “Great” QB.
The 2001 season I remember when we beat the Rams at their turf and knocked off their undefeated season 34-31. It was Kurt Warners first loss at home since he joined in 1999. We were the talk of the town that week.
And I thought we were going to make it to the playoffs again, then a week later we lose to a bad team. We were 7-5 and ended up 7-9.
The 2002 Season…was a very exciting year and Aaron Brooks shined that year. We were 9-4 and all we needed was 1 win. We lost 32-31 to the Vikes from a 2 point conversion with 5 seconds left. This was the downhill spiral in the Brooks/Haslett Era.
We ended up 9-7 and missed the playoffs and lost to the worst teams that year.
2003 season. Same ole crap. 8-8 missed playoffs by one game. This was when I wanted Brooks gone and Haslett Fired.
2004 8-8 once again missed playoffs by one game. Another letdown.
2005 season 3-13. Worse season ever. Even worse than our 1-15 year from 1980.
Brooks had all the physical talent of any QB in history. He was a bust due to the fact he was as dumb as a wet blanket off a mules behind.
I don’t miss those days at all.
2006 to present. Thank you Sean Payton, thank you Drew Brees.
New attitude, new culture, Real players, team players=Winners!
“2005 season 3-13. Worse season ever. Even worse than our 1-15 year from 1980.”
What was the name of the hurricane that turned the Saints into a band of Nomads in 1980?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Lol!
It was one ugly year. I remember telling my family a little more than halfway through the season. That I will not watch anymore games as long as Haslett is the coach and if Aaron Brooks is the QB.
Thank God for 2006!! It was a complete positive turnaround for our franchise.
Hurricane Richard
As in Nolan, though it had help from Hurricane Benny blowing 7 of 17 field goal attempts (not that those were even close to the only problems)
by theprogrammerman on Jul 6, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
For as ignorant and as awful as Brooks supposedly was, he had one of the lowest career interception percentages in NFL history.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Remember the fumbled snaps Coldpizza?
That started with him in 2003, and when he did throw interceptions…Number 1. It was always at the wrong time…Number 2. Remember when he would smile and laugh after he threw interceptions?
“Number 1. It was always at the wrong time…Number 2. Remember when he would smile and laugh after he threw interceptions?”
Number 1. I wasn’t aware there was a right time to throw them.
Number 2. I remember it well. I also remember the interceptions not being any more costly because of it. Some people have carefree demeanors. It’s how they cope with stress. I’d much rather have a QB who lets mistakes roll off his back, than one who dwells on them to the point of self doubt, like Tim Couch. Or worse, blames them on everyone but himself, like Ryan Leaf.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Brees is a class act winner and a leader.
And he can recover from mistakes like no other. And he never blames any team mates for mistakes.
And he fights till the last second of the game win or lose
Let me get this straight now:
Bush – Not worth being on the team.
Brooks – “carefree demeanor.”
Got it.
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 5, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Have I ever been shallow enough to knock Bush’s demeanor?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Like I said, "Got it."
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 5, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember Brooks inexplicably letting the ball slip out of his grasp a couple of times, as he cocked his arm to pass. Brees has done that at least once since he’s been here too, though. It’s somewhat understandable, if the ball’s wet. I don’t really get why it happens indoors. Sweat, maybe?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Aaron brooks.
just cause. when i was young my childhood was epic fails at the hands of this man. and mike karney. but forgive and forget i guess they say
Way down South in Mississippi... the Rebs kick your ass.
by Blue Chip Prospect on Jul 4, 2010 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
I don't agree with the Brooks comments.
The guy is a dbag. But he gave me enough in that one playoff win over the Rams. That was magical. And he crapped out just soon enough to get us Drew Breesus.
Just a thought
I know this is a little off topic but I remember the QB I enjoyed watching we had for a couple of years with the Saints during the 94-95 season.
Jim Everett. He was pretty exciting to watch back then, he brought some pretty offense on the field after the boring Bobby Hebert offense. By this time the dome patrol defense was gone.
I believe if the Saints had Jim Everett 4 years earlier he would have given us a ring back then or won some playoff games. And Ditka was so stupid to cut him.
i would like to nominate the billy joe's
both of them together
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 5, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
you've got to remember him
The worst secondary player to ever play on a football field.
POE
I’d rank Wuerffel below Shuler. At least Shuler had an prototype release and attempt to stand in the pocket. He also had twice as many wins as a starter. As I’ve mentioned before, the absolute worst Saints players of all-time would inevitably be guys that only stuck around for one season or less and never started. Odds are neither you nor I would remember them.
But as far as starters go, I can’t see Irv Smith being anywhere near the bottom of the TE list. And where on earth is Larry Burton? He was our very own version of Renaldo Nehemiah. All-world speed, couldn’t catch sheep s*** in a Velcro mitt. Connell actually caught the winning TD against the Bills, in the first game after 9/11. He got called for offense pass interference (despite not having pushed off) and the game ended. Anyone remember that? Exact same thing happened to Ike Harris back in 1980, against the Dolphins.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
actually, CP
we played the Bills on the Sunday before 9/11 and Connell caught a dramatic TD pass right before the half – we went on to win 24-6. We played the Giants and lost 21-13 as the first game after 9/11.
We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night. -- GW
by Hans Peterson on Jul 5, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It must have been the Giants game then. I remember the game ended on the offensive penalty. Guess it would have been a long shot regardless, if they were down by 8.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Willie Jackson
Caught the TD and he was called for off pass int. And it was the final seconds of the game.
And I remember playing the Rams game at the dome Dec 17 2001. brooks threw a 35 yd pass to jackson in the end zone. It was 4th and 30/4th and goal after numerous false start penalties.
It was a TD. We lost 34-21.
That was the night when the fans threw beer bottles in the end zone
I am really surprised that only I mentioned RENALDO TURNBULL ? He is the guy that argued with Jim Mora in a game and then walked off the field and quit , while the game was going on ! I have been watching football since 1956 and I have never seen nothing like that.
by saints since 67 on Jul 5, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
REMEMBER
Does anyone remember when the Saints played in the same division with Pittsburg and Philly ? Tom Dempsey was traded to Philly after he kicked his famous field goal against Detroit. I was at a game at Tulane stadium and we was playing Philly , I remember Dempsy missing a field goal from about 25 yards away , I was in the end zone behind the uprights , a lot of people thought he did that on purpose so the Saints would win , and we did !
by saints since 67 on Jul 5, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
They were in with Dallas, Philadelphia and Washington in 1967 and 1969. With Pittsburgh, Cleveland and St. Louis (Cardinals) the one season in between. That was all before the NFL-AFL merger. The Seahawks were in our division their inaugural season (1976) and the Buccaneers were in the AFC West. A lot of people don’t remember that.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
another one
Another one I could not stand was a lazy ass that was caught holding most of the time because the defense was too fast for him, (no matter what defense.)
Wayne Gandy.
I agree. They traded him to Atlanta for Bryan Scott, who failed to start a single game for the Saints. That’s when they should have drafted D’Brickshaw Ferguson and kept Jammal Brown at RT. Huge mistake in hindsight, imo. With better run blocking throughout the season, that NFC championship game isn’t played in Soldier Field. It’s in the Superdome.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Anyone Remember this guy?
Rich Caster. 1980 or 81. WR.
Dropped a ton of balls.
I think his jersey number was 87
Remember
I’ve been watching the Saints since 1970 and I don’t remember exactly when this was, I think maybe the early 80’s. The Saints really had tough times at some positions and they had this player named Guido Merkins.
This guy used to play quarterback, receiver, end around man, punter, kicker and I probably forgot a few positions.
This guy was a trip because he really was good no matter where he played. I think his actual position was a receiver.
Just thinking, the Saints did need plenty help those years.
Yep, Guido Merkens came over from the Oilers, along with Bun Phillips and a couple of other players. My league’s fantasy football trophy used to be named after him. In fact, Bobby Hebert’s first TD as a Saint was actually a RECEPTION on a gadget play … and Merkens in the one that threw it to him.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
All time favorite saints name list, Guido Merkens
but don’t forget Tinker Owens.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Lotta great names over the years. Jubilee Dunbar has to rank way up there. What about Toussaint Tyler? The only Saint with “saint” in his name.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Jubilee, Jubilee, your dinners gettin cold! (the Dunbar household)
Jake Kupp was funny to hear when I was a kid. And Bivian Lee! Bivian?
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Haha yeah, that always seemed like a chick name to me. Hokie Gajan is an odd name, too. Although, his real name is Howard. What about Jitter Fields? His real name was Alfred. I also liked Barry WORD to your mother. And Wilmont Perry. Kinda surprised he never caught on somewhere, he was a tough runner.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I always liked Kevin Haverdink
We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night. -- GW
by Hans Peterson on Jul 6, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Caster
I remember Caster, I think he and Guido played at the same time.
Was it # 87 or # 88?
Groth is another one from Houston. As was Caster, Ken Stabler, Earl Campbell, Leon Gray (via trade for Archie Manning), Allen Pinkett and Haywood Jeffires.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Earl Campbell is an ass!
And the reason I say this, I met him in person at a golf club when i was 16 and told him I was a die hard Saints fan. And he responded: Your fan base is trash. I replied: Well thank you for your lousy performance and fumbles in close games, you will not be missed.
I can’t stand that POS.
I remember
He had some good kickoff returns.
I’ll tell you who i really liked back in the Bum Phillip days..
Number 83..Kenny Duckett.
I liked him he was good
I think from 81 to 83. A couple of years. He had a diabetes problem and didn’t play long.
He was a good kickoff returner
No Way!
Michael Lewis was great in his time. And brought alot of spark in games. I’ll never forget when we played at Washington when he had a kickoff return and a punt return for Td’s.
That was epic.
Then i think in 04 or 05 he had a knee injury that slowed him down a bit.
I know we’re supposed to be talking about worst players, but it’s good to look back on the good players we’ve had. You know, I really don’t have much bad to say about any of the players we have now. We can easily repeat this year and with a much more improved team I think. My only concern would be injuries, but we did very good with the injuries we had last year. It feels so good to have a complete team with backup players in almost every position good enough to be starters.
Rich Mauti was always one of my favorites back then. He’s still a big Saints fan. And Tinker Owens. Remember that huge ruckus they had versus Houston, when Zeke Moore poked him in the eyes? Here’s an old newspaper clipping detailing the incident.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Was there for that one
it was always somekinda beef or grudge between the Hou/N.O. and it cont’d thru the Glanville years until they became the Titans. And speaking of Glanville, can’t remember if it was the Oilers or Falcons (Glanville coached) when on a opening KO by M. Anderson that a Oiler/Falcon Sp. Teamer went after Morten’s knees. Almost knocked him out the game. One of the dirtiest plays i’ve seen in person.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
How about worst scouts? These guys are never heard of, I don’t know any of them but I wouldn’t trade these scouts of ours for any others. These guys here are doing an excelent job, unlike the past. They get these so called nobody’s from all over and they turn out to be great players on our team. The only reason they are called nobody’s is only because most can’t afford to go to the big universities. So I hope they keep these scouts because that’s one big reason for us having such great players. We don’t need anymore worst scouts.
Robert Clark was another pretty decent WR from the Jim Mora era, that no one ever seems to talk about. Didn’t do much with the Saints, but put up fairly solid numbers with Detroit once he left here, just like Brett Perriman.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Brett Perriman
They were stupid to let him go to the lions. He did so well pairing up with Eric martin
Bobby Hebert
Talking about Perriman and Martin, Bobby Hebert, Bobby J as we called him in high school, he graduated from South Lafourche high in 78 and I graduated from there in 79. Also u guys remember the saints offensive line coach Edward Orgeron, he graduated the same year as me.
But anyway back to Bobby J, he was not a very impressive qb in high school. South Lafourche ran the ball 80% of the time and he didn’t throw much anyway. The way I understand is that he learned how to throw the ball in college, which I believe because like I said he was not very impressive in H.S.
He was an average guy away from the field, friendly. Believe me, he couldn’t yell at those players in high school like he did with the saints because they probably would have laid him out. (right Bobby, if you’re reading?)
But anyway, I thought he was ok with the saints, at least they did make it to the playoffs.
The cajun cannon was a nice guy, he told me hi or hi back whenever we passed each other in school, he didn’t hold his nose high.
Take care Bobby J., Tommy Verdin
Some missing QBs
How about Ed Hargett?….#14… behind Kilmer. I recall one game where Ed made his way into a game as a starter and proceeded to go 13-38 with three interceptions…..and the coaches claimed he “played well”…Joe Gilliam., Billy Joe Hobert, Bobby Scott & Dave Wilson…..
How about FB Jim Strong?
"If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes"
Bum Phillips
remember Carl Roaches?
We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night. -- GW
How would you guys take it if you were called one of those names? Every conversation i’d have with someone, I’d be waiting for a comment about my name. And I’m sure it wouldn’t be a good comment. (col) cry out loud.
Heard on morning talk radio the other day (so no telling if its true or not)
that there was a guy who was on the Packers (maybe tried out for, practice squad, i have no idea) whos last name was….Fudge. Not that theres anything wrong with that.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
I don’t know about that Fudge, but there was a Fudge before this one. Just don’t remember who he played for.
they said it was years ago. but for all i know they could have been just bs'ing
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
How would you like to share a locker with this guy?
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Fagan
J Fagan was a punter. Oiw about little Howard Stevens ? He was a hell of a (little) player lol. He was something on kick returns too !!
Maunti
He hangs out with the family of the news guy , Bob Delgilno. He has a boy playing football for somebody right now. He is in Kenner a lot or use to be. I may have miss spelled Bob’s last name , lol
That's ok, Moe, as long as the Duff beer is cold and the pickled eggs are fresh!
"The good news is we're gonna sign you to the roster. The bad news is you're 26 pounds overweight and I gotta fine you, and that's gonna cost you more than you'll make for the playoff game." Sean Payton to Deuce McAllister, January 2010.
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