Larry Fitzgerald disses Saints
"You look at the NFC right now, you think of the Cowboys, you think of the Green Bay Packers, you think of the Minnesota Vikings. Those are the three juggernauts in our conference ..."
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Don't see how that's dissing the Saints.
If i had to rank the Saints in the NFC….I’d put them 4th behind those three.
LOL
you’ve been drinking Jamarcus’ grape drank
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 8, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Only drink this while you're at home, Jeff. *hugs*
"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin
by Dan Kelly on Jul 8, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I would, as well. Behind the Colts and Ravens in the AFC. I had them behind the Jets and Chargers as well, but I’m a little more iffy on those two, than I was earlier in the offseason.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
Honey? Is that you?
Damn C-P! You are so contrary, that sometimes I think you may actually be my wife. You went and created a CSC account just so you could piss me off. Wait ’till I get home…
And I thought jeff.I.b was a wet blanket!
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 8, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for agreeing. But seriously…how do you stand it sometimes CP when it’s obvious most people around here can’t look at anything truthfully?
quick question...
Are you and CP saying that, right after the Saints won the Super Bowl by 14 points, they were the 4th best team in the NFC (and the 6th best team in the league)?
If not:
a) How would you rank those teams right after the Super Bowl?
b) What have those teams done in free agency and the draft to warrant their change (if any) in your rankings?
"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin
Based on what?
The media? I don’t see much point in even attempting to rank teams before we at least get a small look at them in preseason games. Not necessarily saying the Saints are definitely better than these three but I’ve seen nothing to indicate they’ll be worse. Saints players have all been saying the defense will be better and, if they truly are, how will anyone be able to keep pace with us?
I still don’t get why so many are so high on the Cowboys either. Sure they look good on paper, but don’t they always and then fall short of expectations with a lack of consistency? The only thing Romo has been working on this summer is his golf game. I expect they’ll disappoint once again. Stu, mark it down on the list.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 8, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only thing Romo has been working on this summer is his golf game.
I have a respect/hate relationship with the Cowboys. Feel bad for them when they suck, hate them when they win and get all uppity, especially their fans. I do not have this problem with any other NFL team. Don’t know why unless it involves my brother. Anyway, Romo could be close to Drew Brees if he only had Brees’ dedication to practice. That golf thing is a distraction and keeps him from reaching his potential. Also, at times, Tony seems to have a fat butt due to lack of conditioning. I’m just sayin’.
No list entry here, Satch. I agree with you. Disappointment looms.
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
florio
is just out there to rake the coals, he will even throw a player under the bus for disrespecting us the same way he did.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 8, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Fitz is full of Sh*tz
Florio too.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Anybody read the very first comment?
From Bun McSticky…
Vikes don’t turn it over 5 times, the game isn’t even close against the Saints.
Ahhhh, but they did, Bun. But…they…did.
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Not that simple
The Vikings didn’t just “turn it over,” as if they went “Oh…here you go. Not using this anymore.” Brett Favre made poor decisions, and the Saints’ defenders made great plays.
Now, it probably is valid to say, “If the Saints’ defense just hadn’t outplayed the Vikings’ offense, the outcome might have been different.” Don’t shoot me.
It was worth the wait.
You forget
You can’t point out the flaws in the logic of Viqueen fans. Here’s what I’ve learned:
1) They were robbed by the NFL by some vast conspiracy to keep Brett Favre out of another Super Bowl.
2) The NFL was also interested in rewarding the New Orleans Saints because of Hurricane Katrina. Nevermind that officiating was piss poor in NO’s previous NFCCG appearance, the season after Katrina. This was all about Katrina.
Pointing out the flaws in this thinking will only put your brain through the blender.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
By that logic, Favre would have to be in on the conspiracy, so they should be mad at him too.
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 8, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I read all the comments....
and it’s apparent the whining, what if’s, and belief that the NFL rigged the outcome of the NFC Championship game isn’t just limited to the folks that post on the Daily Norseman.
I couldn’t help but notice they weren’t making any bold predictions about the up-coming game….. just complaining they were cheated in the last one.
by Drew-Dat on Jul 8, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
3 Teams that haven't been to the Super Bowl in the past decade
Yep, those are the juggernauts. You hit the nail on the head with that one Larry. When was Minnesota’s last NFC Championship? The Carter Administation?
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Excelent point.
And we have been to 2 of last 4 NFC champ games. Have those other teams?
by ReggieVilma on Jul 9, 2010 10:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For a team that's supposedly not a juggernaut,
it was crushing his Cardinals like one in the playoffs, the last time Larry suited up for a game.
The Saints crushed his Cardinals too.
"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin
Does this mean that we get to fly under the radar as Super Bowl Champs?
That’s almost unheard of, but I’ll take it. Go ahead and think everybody else is better than us and we’ll just beat them on our way to repeat. TWO DAT!!!!
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
by mknkachow on Jul 8, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
had to laugh at Ragnar's comment.
Interesting comments by Fitzgerald, but why the picture of Serena Williams?
Who dat, from a cajun exiled to cowboy country.
by alcoholic_insight on Jul 8, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
haha
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 8, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine by me
Its not like Payton needed anything more to motivate the guys, but you know that those out there will think it took us all these years to win one, and now we are done for a while. I’d rather play under the radar as opposed to playing with a target on our back all year. Pretty much the same team in place, and if they play with the same team first attitude and intensity, no reason to think we don’t give ourselves a chance to be right in the hunt again.
We will have a target on our back.
Regardless of what anyone says, every opponent we’ve got this year has the date of our game circled on their calendar. The only way that would change is if we lost a bunch of games at the beginning of the season. And, that’s not going to happen.
Would totally agree
No way we don’t have a target on our back and chances are we are not flying under the radar. What 1 player thinks is not representative of what the rest of the NFL thinks.
WHO CARES?
The cards are not going anywhere. We arent going to get any respect until we win SB XLV too. Expect more lame prognosticaing like this all the way through the season.
Larry’s just mad that we destroyed his team. And sent his only hope to make it to the Superbowl into retirement
by Ezio_Auditore on Jul 8, 2010 4:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, I realize I’m overusing Dave’s awesome Photoshopped pic here. What can I say? It’s just so darned fun!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 8, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
On a related note...
I read an article on ESPN about Larry’s conditioning camp. Apparently, Malcolm Jenkins took part in the camp
Glad to see that Jenkins is working to become better
by Ezio_Auditore on Jul 8, 2010 4:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm really looking forward to everyone's Power Ranking updates throughout the season.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
by Jay Preece on Jul 8, 2010 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
BOOM rec'd it
LOL
I was just thinking about the earnestly erudite arcuate.
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
I always saw it as a “hell yeah!” kinda reaction.
"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin
Because it's so darn fun!
And, it’s a Stujoism.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 8, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Used to work for a guy from Brooklyn, 164 IQ but very patient with me. As he explained things at the chalkboard (1983), he’d make his point with a BOOM. This was long before John Madden did it on TV. Maybe it’s a Brooklyn-Italian cultural thing.
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today?
Or Boom-Zinga!
Stu started it a loooooong time ago. Just caught on. CSC tradition. Give it a try sometime.
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 8, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
What a long strange thread it's been.
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 8, 2010 5:07 PM CDT reply actions
Here's my line:
Buildings burned: ± 6.5
Jerseys burned: ± 10,000
Cars burned: ± 35.5
Days until Cleveland’s motto officially becomes at least we’re not Detroit: ± 10.5
Children named LeBron who get beat up at school tomorrow: ± 16.5
Times the film “The Number 23” is run on local stations: ± 3
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 8, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you guys want an open thread for that LeBron garbage?
I’ll give it to you if you want it. Or we can have a Big Brother premiere thread?
BTW, I think he’s staying in Cleveland. Would just seem to be such an douche move to make such a spectacle of this whole thing and then leave.
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 8, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
And what a shame - it's July, so we don't even have anyone in the locker room to read his statement
on the bulletin board as "bulletin board material" to get fired up about it.
Now how will we ever get motivated enough to beat them this year?
"The good news is we're gonna sign you to the roster. The bad news is you're 26 pounds overweight and I gotta fine you, and that's gonna cost you more than you'll make for the playoff game." Sean Payton to Deuce McAllister, January 2010.
Several comments:
1. It’s good to see a thread like this again. Thanks to Stu for generating it with some more Florio b*******. Please note the absense of the sarcastic font. Seriously, thanks Stu.
2. I’m much more like those beer-drinking fans than the stat sheet fans, Stat sheet fans are valuable, however. Feed them coal, then collect diamonds in 1-2 days.
3. We are the Champions! That’s what counts. Otherwise, why have a championship game? Viking fans, Cowboy fans, and statisticians can form their chairs in a circle, turn out the lights, …. What really matters is that we are the champions. Some other team is better? Where’s your SB XLIV Lombardi trophy, m***********?
4. Nothing wrong with prognosticating; it’s part of being a fan. Hats off to Dan Kelly for last year’s predictions. What stat sheets did you use Dan?
5. My prognostication? Two Dat!
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
I wasn’t the only one who knew we’d have a SB team last year.
Even though I love numbers, no charts were required. :-)
Everyone knows we’ve got the best offense. I (and others) saw something special in the defense and a swagger in the team as a whole.
pre-reply: For those that don’t value takeaways, I could see how you might have predicted another 8-8 or 9-7 year, and how you still say we had a poor defense. To each his own.
"Do not anticipate trouble or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. " ~Benjamin Franklin
WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF?
Did everybody ram a Silly Putty suppository up their butts today?
People (also staunch Saints Fans) who spend an exhorbitant amount of time going over spreadsheets, statistics, past trends, and future tendancies to argue that their Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints ain’t all they’re cranked up to be will undoubtedly raise the ire of beer swilling (also staunch Saints Fans) TV zombies who are simply enjoying our SB victory to the fullest.
To argue the case, one way or the other, is a classic exercise in futility.
The spreadsheet prophets will try to wear you down with their versions of “X’s” and “O’s.”
They will bemoan the fact that time of possession does not reflect the actual productivity of a particular team.
They will beat you over the head with a bag of lead laden facts that have no way of being verified without Billy Gates getting into the act.
When an anomaly appears in the midst of their Herculean efforts they will chalk it up to the “carefree demeanor” of said anomalies.
What is our defense against this onslaught of statisticians who won’t change their approach to the game and are incapable of changing their minds?
For me, I simply go back to the highlight reels of the 2009 season.
Hartley’s kick was not an odds beating fluke.
Porter’s interceptions were not a deviation from the norm.
Sharper’s performance over the length of the season did not refute statistics on aging.
Bush’s presence on the field had nothing to do with how much money he has in the bank.
The “Ambush” was not simply a “favorable percentage” play.
Brees’s passing accuracy was not swayed one centemeter by Manning winning MVP.
Hey, if anybody wants to argue that the Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints are not going to repeat in 2010, go for it. Just don’t get on your high freakin’ horse and scorn those of us who love our Saints unconditionally through, rose colored glasses, with no data base to back up our support.
I’ll take my heart over your computer any day.
(Last two paragraphs should be read with Battle Hymn of the Republic playing in the background.)
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Jul 8, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 8, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, rec'd
"We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night." -- Greg Williams
Me too!!
Turn JND’s rant GREEN!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
GREEN!! GREEN!!! GREEN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yeAQ5JPWkM
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Jul 9, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
how many does it take to turn green?
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 9, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Four. And at least a week’s worth of penicillin to get it back to white.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
LOL!!!
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by Dave Cariello on Jul 9, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
with Battle Hymn of the Republic playing in the background.
yankee
I was down in Dixie Land, played a silver fiddle
Played it loud and then the man broke it down the middle.
I'm a proud descendent of a Union Soldier!
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said JND except for one thing
I don’t think its fair to categorize the people who think the Saints are the best team in the NFL as beer swilling homers as C-P and jeffIb have done in this thread.
In years past, I would not have said the Saints were the best. No, I would have been cautiously optimistic that we even make the playoffs. (I told friends and family last year after the Raiders pre-season game that if the Saints couldn’t do it in 2009/10 then they never would, but I never had the guts to publicly state it on this forum).
Like most of you, football is my passion. I’ve enjoyed playing and watching football all my life. I follow the stats in my fantasy leagues. I participate in pick’em leagues, too. Just because some people here like to drone on about statistically insignificant numbers doesn’t mean the rest of us aren’t considering them too. It’s just that I have a full time job and don’t really have time during my comments to list every stat, and frankly, they aren’t predictive in the first place.
The reality of the NFL is that any team can beat any other team on any given Sunday. The margin of difference is really very small. The qualities that put teams ahead are the intangibles: experience, leadership, team chemistry, coaching, character, past success, and luck. The Saints have all these intangibles. That’s why they have been to two NFCCGs and a Superbowl in four years. I’m not drunk and I’m not stupid (I am a homer, but I try to be realistic) when I say I think the Saints are poised for a dynasty run. It’s a small window but we’ve got the team and intagibles to do it. Put it down, Stu.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jul 9, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
Speaking of pick ‘em leagues, the guy who won the CSC Pick ’Em league last year isn’t a stats guy. He just based his predictions (guesses) mostly on gut feelings, team/player news, and home field advantage. How do I know? That guy was me.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jul 9, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Just liked Sharper said
“Now we can say we are the best in the world”!
by ReggieVilma on Jul 9, 2010 10:27 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
and not even all those.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Benjamin Franklin
my brazilian friend made a similar comment
when he kept on hearing the saints referred as the “world” champs. i told him that the US only cares about sports when their leagues are the highest in the world.
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 9, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
In the NFL it's probably justified.
Unless you see the Rein Fire creeping up on us anytime soon.
Snap, place, kick! And it's good! It's good! It's goo-hoo-hood! Pigs have flown! Hell Has frozen over! The Saints are going to the Superbowl!
by Joseph William Stern on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the primary reason “world champions” is used, is because all the other lesser monikers are used up at lower levels of play. In high school, you have the the “state champions”. In college, it’s the “national champions”. In the NFL, it should still technically be the “national champions”, since it’s not an international operation. But that would be stooping to the collegiate terminology, so they one up it.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
I prefer Super Bowl champions myself. Just sounds far less pompous.
"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper
that's the one I use mostly
or NFL Champions
If we want to do something we've never done before, we've gotta do things we've never done before. -- Drew Brees
by Hans Petersen on Jul 10, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
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