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P.J. Hill and Chris Ivory Both Presented With a Unique Opportunity

The Saints currently have five runningbacks on the roster. Pierre Thomas, Reggie Bush, Lynell Hamilton, P.J. Hill and Chris Ivory (pictured). The first three are virtual locks to make the final 53 man roster. If you read Sean Payton's post practice transcripts, you know he thinks highly of Hamilton's contributions not only in short yardage situations, but how big of an asset he is on special teams as well. Last year four running backs ended up making the roster, so you have to figure there's a real chance for both Hill and Ivory to make a case for their inclusion.

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It's not impossible the Saints stick with three backs, or that they find someone else off waivers, meaning Hill and Ivory both would be shown the door come week 1. Remember the Saints looked at several veterans this offseason, including Justin Fargas right around the time they were losing Mike Bell. I think the Saints feel good about the five guys they've got for now, but don't rule out the Saints adding a veteran to the mix if they feel these guys aren't cutting it in preseason. I also think that if a fullback not named Heath Evans makes a huge impact, or if a backup tight end displays worth on special teams, the Saints may elect to keep an extra spot at a position that haven't traditionally done so with. The bottom line is we can't know for sure how it's going to unfold. What we do know is the Saints kept four running backs last year, and right now they've got five. That means P.J. Hill and Chris Ivory both stand a great chance to make this team as they're likely each competing for the one and same spot. Add to that fact the raving reviews both players have gotten through the first two days of camp, and it should make for some really exciting stuff this preseason. We already know Hill from last preseason when he lead the NFL in preseason rushing yardage with the Saints. It was a bummer he got cut, but he was just caught up in a numbers game. Regardless, we know the guy is capable and that he can contribute. While we don't know much about Ivory, who hails from little know Tiffin College, every report has been that he's really turning heads so far. I for one can't wait to see this kid in action.

 

So what do you think will happen? Saints keep 3 backs? 4? If they keep 4, will it be Ivory or Hill?

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Good article Andrew

If I have to guess right now, none of them make it. Now if one of them becomes a headhunter on special teams, then they will make it.

"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG

by DrWhoDat on Aug 1, 2010 7:22 AM CDT reply actions  

If both backs are being afforded the same opportunity, then it wouldn’t be a unique one. I agree that they’ll ukeep four, but I still think the wild card will wind up being a yet-to-be-signed veteran … Julius Jones, Marshawn Lynch … someone with intriguing credentials is bound to shake lose. I also can’t see how Hamilton can be considered a lock by any stretch. One of the two you mentioned could easily wind up outperforming him in exhibition games. Being that Hamilton beat out Hill the first time around, I wouldn’t bet on it. At the same time, I wouldn’t bet against Hill (or Ivory) either. Not like any of the three are slam dunk NFL material.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 1, 2010 8:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Julius Jones,

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I took on my father and I’m still walkin’
Took on all comers in some shape or form

by stujo4 on Aug 1, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Marshawn Lynch

He’s staying in Buffalo. No value in a trade and the Bills won’t cut him. And too bad, what locker room chemistry! The guy’s even got “Saint” written across his forehead.

I took on my father and I’m still walkin’
Took on all comers in some shape or form

by stujo4 on Aug 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

“someone with intriguing credentials is bound to shake lose.”

someone currently in Washington, per chance… especially if htey sign Westbrook, Like the MSM think they want to.

That’s four “experienced” vets… (some might say “over the hill”)… but, if they were in a committee, maybe one of them could play a roll in our offense.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Aug 2, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

We keep four again

PJ will win the spot. At least, I hope so just so I can win that disagreement on Stu’s accountability index. PJ is gonna run the ball and be avoiding defenders like common sense avoids Chris Paul. Is that a point?

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Aug 1, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Booooooo

Here’s your common sense, CP3 going to make more money than any Saints player will this year!

by shn_hldn on Aug 1, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

you have got to be crapping me

Consider this: No NFL team goes into camp with just its starter and primary backup running backs. There are always some camp bodies there.

PhotoOp has the inside track to a roster position as he seems to be a favorite of Rita’s.

But Hill and Ivory may just be the best camp bodies available, nothing more. Best available. Not seen by PayLoo as unwashed diamonds, or projects with huge upside. Just best guys available.

Veteran free agent is definitely a possibility if timing and chemistry (search “locker room”) are right, e. g. Mike Bell.

I took on my father and I’m still walkin’
Took on all comers in some shape or form

by stujo4 on Aug 1, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

AP1. Wooooooooooo!

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 3, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

James Fenderson was a diamond in the rough. I wonder what jewelry kiosk he’s working at these days.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 3, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jammal Branch, too. There’s a new one every year, it seems.

"I was not on the boat in question." -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Aug 3, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep 4

I liked P.J.Hill from the beginning. He’s big. and may be able to double as full back.

by Lyle Lirette on Aug 1, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

30 Hamilton, Lynell RB 6-0 235
23 Thomas, Pierre RB 5-11 215
48 Ivory, Chris RB 6-0 222

43 Hill, P.J. RB 5-10 218

I took on my father and I’m still walkin’
Took on all comers in some shape or form

by stujo4 on Aug 1, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

too small to be a fb

the easiest way for either one of these guys to make the 53 man roster is to shine on special teams… they wont be getting many carries unless there are some injuries, so lets see how well they get down the field and murder somebody on kick coverage.

NEVER QUIT!

by DrewBreesManCrush on Aug 2, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

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