Fleur-de-Links: New Orleans Saints RB P.J. Hill Lands Hard on Injured Reserve
Our previously well-stocked backfield has taken another hit with the announcement that RB PJ Hill has been placed on injured reserve, which pretty much ends his season. This makes the second running back we've lost to season-ending injury, and we're not even out of preseason yet. (Is this big news to you, or not so big news to you? (Be sure to check out the poll below.)
DeShawn Wynn was signed today, but he's got a pretty slim profile in his 3-year career, so who knows what we're getting with him.
We also have some more columnists opining about the Texans game, a couple of articles about the final 53-man roster, a look ahead to our next opponent, and A JEFF DUNCAN MAILBAG - WOOHOO!!!!!
The Saints practiced this afternoon, but as of press time, they had not yet finished, so I'll be back this evening to update this FDL post with whatever practice reports appear before my bedtime.
Follow the jump to get your hook up of the news and notes and videos from today.
Bonus Monday Night Links and Videos added @ 7:30 pm EST.
Bonus link and transcript added @ 8:45 pm EST.
Bonus Monday Evening Links Added (7:30 pm and 8:45 pm EST):
Saints Shift to Regular-Season Mode | neworleanssaints.com
Alex Restrepo with notes about "regular-season-style" practice and other news from today.
Young, Stinchcomb return to practice for Saints | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Free safety Usama Young returned to practice Monday after missing every practice since Aug. 14 with a groin issue.
New Orleans Saints injury update | NOLA.com
Safety Usama Young returns to practice; five others remain out or limited.
2theadvocate.com | Williams, players find familiarity
Les East on Year 2 of GW's Reign of Fire.
Saints backfield continues to shift because of injuries | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Timing, the old cliché goes, is everything. And for DeShawn Wynn, the Saints’ timing couldn’t have been any better.
Out with de P.J., in with DeShawn
New Orleans Saints sign RB Deshawn Wynn, place PJ Hill on IR | neworleans.com
Ken Trahan, PRESIDENT of the United States of neworleans.com - cranked out this quickie on the big news today.
Saints place Hill on IR, sign Wynn in his place | wwltv.com | Eye on Black and Gold
Bradley Handwerger's bit on the Hill/Wynn transactions.
New Orleans Saints sign free agent tailback DeShawn Wynn | NOLA.com
Wynn spent first three seasons with Green Bay Packers, and finished last year on IR with a knee injury.
More from the Texans game
Chase Daniel knows New Orleans Saints' measuring stick is Drew Brees | NOLA.com
McCann award-winning Pete Finney - Super Bowl MVP 'like a big brother' to backup contender.
moosedenied " Blog Archive " Chasin’ the Dream
GMW gives his take on the game and the Chase Daniel Band lovefest as only Wang can do it.
Final Roster Speculation
On The Bubble: New Orleans Saints final roster to be determined by numbers' game | neworleans.com
B-A-W's current look at our possible final roster.
Adrian Arrington making his case for New Orleans Saints' 53-man roster | NOLA.com
He's locked in battle with Courtney Roby, Rod Harper for fifth WR spot. Nakia Hogan.
Who's Next? The Chargers are, that's who.
Saints Return To Practice To Prepare For Chargers | neworleanssaints.com
Staff report.
Deke: Saints Move Into Regular Season Practice Mode - WWL - AM870 | Sports
From Sunday evening.
Lagniappe
New Orleans Saints mailbag: Betts, Hill, Ivory give team depth at backup RB | NOLA.com
T-P's Jeff Duncan answers your Saints questions.
"Gruden's Champ Camp" Highlights Saints | neworleanssaints.com
This program has been mentioned elsewhere on CSC, and now we have more details on the show's content.
Bonus Transcript (taken from neworleans.com)
New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton Post-Practice Media Availability
Monday, August 23, 2010
Can you talk about why you picked up DeShawn Wynn?
"He's versatile and well-versed in an offense like ours up in Green Bay. With P.J.'s (Hill) injury we felt it was necessary to bring him in here. P.J. has a torn tricep, not fully torn, but nevertheless serious and he'll have surgery tomorrow. With Wynn it was his first kind of exposure to this."
How difficult is it to add two backs and have to evaluate them so quickly in camp?
"I think like anything else you have to be ready. Fortunately we have a ways before we start the regular season. Those guys can get quickly into the playbook and get acclimated. The good news is we have three weeks this Thursday before we play, so there's time to get these guys trained, see how they do and what they're made out of."
Can you give your thoughts on Chris Ivory's performance Saturday?
"He did some good things. There are some things he has to work on in regard to landmarks. I thought he ran hard and had good effort. He has good balance and finishes his runs well, which has been pretty exciting to see and yet there are a ton of things he's working on like any rookie would be but specifically a running back. He's making progress and it was good to get him work with the ones the other night."
Does it help matters that you don't have to give one person the ball 25 or 30 times a game with all of these running back injuries affecting you?
"Number one, I think at the running back position, a year ago, we had four guys that played in the first month of the season. At some point during the year those guys get nicked up. Whether it was Pierre (Thomas) or Reggie (Bush), Lynell (Hamilton) or Mike Bell, all four of them played a pretty important role for what we did offensively. My experience is that you need to have depth at that position, because the season's long and those guys get hit often. We try to have flexibility and have enough roles for each of the players. The key is to identify those roles early and our vision for what we expect of them. There are several players that were here a year ago at this time that aren't now, Lynell being one of them, who is injured, Mike Bell being the other. These other guys are going to have to really step up and prove themselves for a spot on the roster."
Is it hard to adjust on the fly like this?
"No, it's harder when it happens in season and a player comes in on a Tuesday, studies the playbook, practices Wednesday and then plays in the game. When you have more time like we do right now, it becomes a little easier, but there's the pressure of learning quick, so that you can perform at a high level and not be thinking so much."
Can you talk about how far Jahri Evans has come in the short time out of a small school?
"He's a guy that has earned everything he's gotten, he came in in the fourth round. We were talking about it the other day. Initially in that 2006 draft we were selecting behind Houston. There was talk we were drafting Owen Daniels and the Texans took him ironically ahead of us. We traded down with Philadelphia to get Hollis Thomas also. Fortunately we selected Jahri Evans. To his credit, he's come in, he's powerful, he's smart. He's an extremely hard worker. He's someone that quickly transitioned from a small school to this level of competition. He certainly has been a big part of what we're doing offensively."
After the success you've had, do you look at yourself at the same guy you always were?
"I think the one thing is you try to be consistent. It's a different team you put together. The big thing now is trying to make the right decisions as you get closer. Certainly as a coach, no different from a player, you gain from experience in certain areas and recognize mistakes you've made and try not to repeat those. You try to be consistent and I think that would be the word. I think the players understand the expectation level and the picture's pretty clear. Collectively between the leadership in the locker room, the assistant coaches, myself, all the way to the organization, it's just trying to make sure the picture is black and white for everyone in regards to what we're trying to get accomplished."
How important is it for Ladell Betts to get on the field for your evaluation?
"I think getting him some snaps is important, trying to get him into the preseason will be important, just so we can really see what we have. Certainly his experience matters. He's getting acclimated pretty quickly. He's really smart and that's helping him with what we're doing."
Do you think he might get on the field this Friday night?
"I think he may get some reps. How many, I don't know yet. I think we can expect him playing some. It just depends on where we see his progress."
With Mike Bell getting a lot of carries last year, did you go into this offseason thinking Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush would get a heavier workload?
"We had a lot of confidence in what Lynell (Hamilton) had shown us a year ago. His workload was going to change. That being said, you have to be flexible enough, not only with what these guys are doing at running back, but can the third halfback on gameday contribute anywhere else. Losing Lynell was something that was tough in regards to him being somebody we knew and someone who played pretty well a year ago. His role expanded a little bit going into the season."
Do you think Pierre can handle a more extensive role?
"I think he can. I think certainly he's going to get plenty of touches as part of what we do. I don't like to use a proverbial number one. I think in our league you need to have flexibility and depth at that position. Does that mean he can carry 22 times in a game? Certainly. You feel the need to have depth, knowing last year, each of the four guys we were talking about was nicked up. That's a part of the game
V-roll Roll Call
| Carl Nicks on the Saints offense |
Saints may have no choice but to keep Adrian Arrington on active roster - wwltv.com
Backup QB battle got more interesting after Saturday's game - wwltv.com
Bonus Monday Night Videos
| Saints are starting to get in regular season mode - nola.com |
| DeShawn Wynn is glad to be with the Saints - nola.com |
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Hill might have gotten cut anyway.
Although the post I was working on about our running game and utilizing Hill and Ivory has taken a nose dive.
Also..
Good job Hans on putting these together, and also thanks to Dave for the entertaining offseason. Helped us get through till preseason.
yoda...lol
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
[warning: grammar/spelling/nit pick police]
It’s DeShawn Wynn – with a “y”.
And, if you’re trying to follow the military, DEFCON numbering… 1 is the most severe.
“DEFCON 1 represents expectation of actual imminent attack”
:-)
I love you, man.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
love you, too
thanks for the notes – I edited to reflect my new knowledge
It's gonna be a great year.
nit picky
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
you KNOW how I voted
Actually, I think it might be the year for TUSK!
Try to see it my way,
Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong.
With only one person voting in favor of your argument
Who else could it be?
by Andrew Tessier on Aug 23, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I will BEGIN to get a LITTLE BIT concerned when
A) PT, Bush, or Ivory end up on IR
B) one or more of them miss 2 or more games.
Until then, I’m not concerned at all.
Even IF one or more of them happens, I’m still not going to get THAT concerned. There will be other players out there on somebody’s practice squad who will be decent enough that we can pick them up if we get into such an emergency situation. Especially if our OL continues to block as well as or better than it did last night.
And worst to worst, Drew can just throw for another 5000 yards.
Very well said.
And props to Hans for his continued great work.
"Dang! The Saints won the Super Bowl!" - my wife, Meso "Happy" Hu Dat.
that year he threw for 5000 didn't work out so well for us
8-8 and no playoffs
It's gonna be a great year.
there were some 'extenuating circumstances' that aided our opponents that year (and the year before)
…if I’m remembering correctly.
But, those things have been more than corrected… and the defense is ON TRACK!
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
True, but we also had HWSNBN as a starting CB for much of that year. And an inferior DC. And an injury riddled WR corp. And a complete joke at the FS position. And Chuckwagon was still a starting DE for us.
None of those are true anymore.
ok, ok
I would just rather see a balanced offense overall with the CAPABILITY to rely on either the run or the pass, as needed, when one aspect of the offense is not working…
It's gonna be a great year.
and...
i agree…
but I’m OK with the fact that SP can dial up the points no matter who’s on the field.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
I say give Zach Strif the rock!
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
fine... you said it better than me, but that's what I meant by
“extenuating circumstances” = HWSNBN’s second season with us… meaning the team was BEST DOWN morally from the first season, and this was just going to be more of the same.
And, “more than corrected” = GW, Greer, Sharper, #2 in TAKEaways, etc etc.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Grandmaster Wang had me cracking up with this paragraph...
I think Duncan’s jumping the gun though juuuuuust a bit with the Jake Delhomme comparisons. I mean, really. At this point, the only things Daniel and Delhomme have in common are the fact that only half of Saints fans are capable of spelling their surnames correctly, and that by no fault of their own they were both born with a condition known as Glenn Frey Syndrome, in which a person’s face just screams “douchebag” regardless of whether or not the person is in fact an actual douchebag. I mean, there’s just nothing they can do about it. At some point, Jake realized this and decided to just go with it. Hey, if you’re gonna do the time, might as well do the crime, right?
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 23, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
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BOOM! Rec’d
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
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On a different note, surely with the Patriots having five RB with all five looking pretty good Belicheck would not mind parting ways with one. After all the Saints and the Patriots have a good busisness relationship.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Aug 23, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
SP could do the Belicheck impression again
and trade a couple of them to us for an 8th rounder next year.
Two Dat!! Who Dat!?
by ReggieVilma on Aug 23, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
“Our previously well-stocked backfield has taken another hit with the announcement that RB PJ Hill has been placed on injured reserve, which pretty much ends his season. This makes the second running back we’ve lost to season-ending injury, and we’re not even out of preseason yet. (Is this big news to you, or not so big news to you?”
This is natural selection. “Well-stocked” was the misnomer. In terms of a head count, we’ve lost a whopping one halfback since camp started (Christian Ducre was never replaced). With both Betts and Wynn in the fold, we are without a doubt in better shape at the position now, than we were two months ago. I’d even go so far as to say we’re better off than we were last year with Mike Bell still on the team. Betts > Bell, Wynn > Hamilton.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
I'm with CP on this one.
Hamilton and Hill seemed like nice guys, but losing guys that might get 2-5 touches a game, and then replacing them with more guys that might get 2-5 touches a game (and have proven they can be at least vaguely productive in that role) doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. If this is our big injury news of the preseason, I won’t be at all disappointed. Betts and Wynn have proven to be solid backups elsewhere. Hamilton and Hill still felt like undrafted rookies trying to make the team. While the ceiling might not be so high, the floor doesn’t look so far down from where we’re standing now either.
I'm with CP on this one.
Hamilton and Hill seemed like nice guys, but losing guys that might get 2-5 touches a game, and then replacing them with more guys that might get 2-5 touches a game (and have proven they can be at least vaguely productive in that role) doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. If this is our big injury news of the preseason, I won’t be at all disappointed. Betts and Wynn have proven to be solid backups elsewhere. Hamilton and Hill still felt like undrafted rookies trying to make the team. While the ceiling might not be so high, the floor doesn’t look so far down from where we’re standing now either.
I like your thought pattern, but...
Torn ACL/MCL in 2009 < Healthy productive runner in 2009, and torn meniscus in 2009 < up and coming youngster that the coaching staff believed in enough to move Bell.
A healthy Bell and Hamilton would have been much more comforting for me than two running backs that are recovering from knee injuries. Remember some kid named Deuce that had a knee injury in 2007 and never was the same player again?
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