San Diego Chargers 21 @ New Orleans Saints 36: The View from Section 140
The New Orleans Saints offense looked solid last night against a legitimate San Diego Chargers defense, thanks in large part to the excellent performances from running backs Chris Ivory and Reggie Bush as well as quarterback Drew Brees. On the other side of the ball the Saints defense showed reason for optimism as well, looking good against the run but still leaving room for improvement, particularly in pass coverage.
All in all, it was a good win for the team. I don't want to say any more without giving away my first-hand observations below so let's just jump straight into my bullet points. Follow me, won't you? Then share your own thoughts in the comment section. Personal pictures from the game will be posted in a little while.
- I think it's official and we can all go ahead and pencil in Chris Ivory as the No. 3 running back on the Saints depth chart. Ladell Betts looked halfway decent in the limited action he saw last night but Ivory has been beastly this pre-season. He's earned his fair share of carries this season if not for his talent than for his hard work.
- I was pleased with Patrick Ramsey's play. It wasn't amazing and he threw an interception, but he just looks way more comfortable back there in the pocket than Daniel and it looks like he throws with a little more velocity. This one is too close to call by me. Ramsey may have the edge because of his experience.
- Freaking Jonathan Casillas. I said before the game that if he played well last night I would support him and if he played poorly I would forever doubt him. What does he do? He plays so-so. Now what? I'm at a crossroads of epic proportions. You tell me what I'm supposed to think about this guy because I have no idea anymore.
- Adrian Arrington got some work returning punts - which was a little surprising - and didn't do that great. It's actually got me wondering if the coaches have told him that he needs to do more than just catch passes if he wants to make this team. Having not done so well at those non-pass-catching activities, I'm a little worried that he actually won't make this team. Is Arrington versatile enough?
- Meanwhile, return specialist Courtney Roby was doing the exact opposite and showing that not only can he return kickoffs well, but he can also catch passes. Roby hauled in two passes for 45 yards, and missed another big one thanks to a Patrick Ramsey overthrow. I truly think this game was planned to purposely sort out the battle for that fifth wide receiver spot and to help coaches make a final decision. The contrasts were stark. Advantage: Roby
- The Saints made zero improvement in cleaning up their act and taking less penalties. Yet another sloppy game with a lot of free yardage handed to the Chargers. Even more surprising, it's veteran guys like Jahri Evans and Marques Colston getting flagged for false starts. Maddening.
- Other than the 47-yard kickoff return the Saints let up, special teams was much better in most phases. Glad to see some improvement there. Thomas Morstead in particular looked like he was really booming his punts last night.
- The Saints defense started off looking like crap. The Chargers offense pretty much had their way on the opening drive but they tightened it up as the game went on. Particularly good to see the Saints continue to do a better job of stopping the run, holding the Chargers to less than 70 yards rushing. As Grandmaster Wang would say: High five!
- Unfortunately, the Saints pass defense left a little to be desired. Greer looked sharp and nearly had that early interception but they were definitely feeling the effects of not having Tracy Porter in the lineup. I think it was Malcolm Floyd who was wide open in the back of the end zone for the Chargers touchdown pass and Antonio Gates seemed to catch the ball at will. If the San Diego receivers could actually hold on to the ball, it would have been worse.
- By my count, Patrick Robinson had one good play: a nice pass deflection. But there's a margin of error on my calculations of +/- 1. The rest of his performance was more of the same we've seen thus far. He also got a chance to return a couple of kickoffs with unimpressive results. If the Saints have to pay this guy so much money for being a first round pick, they might as well get more out of him, right?
- If there is anyone you could label as consistent so far this pre-season, it might definitely be non other than Reggie Bush. Once again I was very, very happy about what I saw from him, even exceeding my expectations as he put together another fine football presentation both on the ground and through the air. This is probably the last we'll see of Reggie before the regular season begins but I cannot wait to see the way he gets used this year and I now trust that it will only be positive. I can't emphasize my newfound respect for Reggie enough.
- I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Colston get called for an unsportsman-like penalty. Quiet Storm never does anything naughty or outspoken on the field. Then he got flagged for a false start. Very unusual.
- Both Jonathan Vilma and Zach Strief went to the locker room after their injuries. Courtney Roby limped off the field later in the game. Let's hope that all of them, Vilma in particular, will be fine and ready to go by September 9th.
- Usama Young may have had an interception but it wasn't that impressive. The throw was a floater and nobody was anywhere near him. His special teams play looked good, however, from what very little I noticed.
- I received several text messages and emails about this. If you have the CBS broadcast of the game on tape, feel free to skip to the crowd shot taken with 8:27 on the clock in the 4th quarter. You can catch 3/4 of my face for about .05 seconds. Enjoy.
- I'm not sure if anyone else noticed but Montez Billings quietly put together a nice game for himself. He had two catches on the night, one of which was an impressive, bobbling number as he was falling down. He also made a sweet tackle on a special teams return. He even got a chance to return a punt himself, probably as a reward for his good play on the night. Billings may have earned himself a spot on the practice squad with his performance.
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Does anyone else feel like Drew Brees
is slightly rusty on his deep ball? He had an overthrow and a jump ball. Just curious. I’m sure he’ll get back in the groove sooner rather than later.
by Andrew Tessier on Aug 28, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
LOL!!!
I actually had a quick sentence written about that but deleted at the last minute. Guess I should have left it in. Yes, LSU FAN, I do think he’s got a few more kinks to work out on the deep throw.
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 28, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally,
I think Colston shouldn’t have gotten a flag. He was hit hard after making the catch, and was down, yet Jammer kept pushing Colston to the ground. I think Jammer should have gotten a personal foul, but whatever. I would’ve been pissed off if someone did that to me
by Ezio_Auditore on Aug 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I actually laughed when Colston got called on the penalty.
That was so unlike him. I am just glad it was preseason and not regular season. If it were I would not be laughing.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
He only got the flag
because it’s “illegal” to flip the ball at an opposing player. Just more evidence of the NFL becoming the “No Fun League.” Colston was pissed because he was hit late—he knee was down and the whistle had blown when he was hit the last time. Why they didn’t throw a flag on that Charger is the question!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
Yeah he did push him
that’s what defenses do. They shouldve just called a personal on Colston and Jammer after the play and let the penalties offset imo
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Aug 30, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Chip Vaughn
Led the Saints with 3 special teams tackles.
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
By the way...
Was anyone bored? This was, after all, a pointless and useless preseason game. Aren’t we supposed to be squirming in our seats out of pure ennui?
Personally, I loved it. We got to see the offense rev up to maximum, and we got to see the subs put on their own show, and we got some questions answered and found a few more to raise. And we won. Altogether a good experience, and I wasn’t dissatisfied a bit…oh, except that I watched it on television. Would rather have been inside that huge round thing.
It was worth the wait.
well... it was the only preason game where the starters got more than half the playing time.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Dan - I'm not trying to criticize your spelling, but I want you to know that I have misspelled preseason that same way 3 times this year
We are truly a couple of great minds thinking alike.
It's gonna be a great year.
:-D
I know I have a spelling problem… had it since grade school. ;-)
And, the fact that there’s no spell check in the comment title doesn’t help me either.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
I was bored for a little bit in the 3rd quarter, but that happens for every game I watch.
Oh when Brees, marches down the field, Oh when Brees gets into the redzone, Oh how I want to see him throw a TD! Oh when Brees marches down the field.
i quit watching after the #1 offense came out pretty much.
Took 2 days for me to go back and finish watching it
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Aug 30, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i just met Mickey Loonis!
Saw him at Martin’s Wine Cellar
by Ezio_Auditore on Aug 28, 2010 12:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
LOL!
What did you say to him!? It’s funny that you got right on your phone and came here to tell us.
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 28, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
well you guys are like family. gotta keep the family updated
I saw him, and thought to myself, “that’s Mickey Loomis!” I called his name as I passed by him, and he asked how I was doing. It seemed like he was in a rush and didn’t want to be noticed lol. I was surprised that I was the only one to notice him
by Ezio_Auditore on Aug 28, 2010 1:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
was he stealing Martin's wine?
does Martin know Loomis was in his cellar?
and I didn’t think New Orleans homes could have cellars?
ok, enough with my humor before I light something on fire with it.
It's gonna be a great year.
Yeah...
Crickets Chirping
LOL
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
Hmmm
Dogs of the night…
Harper – badly beaten a couple of plays… waaay too much separation
Gay – Floyd TD is on him… and he’s great at tackling…air but i guess we knew that…
Actually one of Pat Rob returns was decent but was nullified by a penalty
Kudos to Charleston for that sack and that almost strip ruled incomplete
You are my people, you are my crowd, this is our music, we love it loud...
“8:27 on the clock in the 4th quarter”
Maybe I have different clocks than you guys.
Where I live, the game started at 7pm.
8:27 would be just before the half, or during half-time.
I looked through my DVR at 7:27, 8:27, and 9:27 (which was in the 4th quarter) and I didn’t see you.
There was a crowd shot at 7:27, but it was Elvis and two chicks… all saying “Two Dat”… so I thought maybe Stu was joking that you were dressed up as Elvis.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
PS. “Where I live” is the Central timezone.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Did you check 8:27 remaining on the game clock in the 4th quarter?
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
Yeah
That’s what I meant. Thanks, Jay.
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 28, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I wonder if you’ll be on the replay… which is at 1am tonight.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
If it's the CBS replay
then Yes
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 28, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
cool… yeah, they just replay the network broadcasts.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
watched the 4th quarter i missed live
on the DVR. I can confirm an appearance by Dave. The action on the field was getting pretty slow.
"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"
he did get burned on that swing play though.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Aug 28, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't find anything to disagree with on Dave's observations
Chris Ivory looks like he will be a very nice addition to the team.
Ramsey certainly didn’t look bad, but I’m still not convinced that Daniels shouldn’t be the back up. In either event, we’re in better shape than I thought we would be.
Reggie Bush is playing with consistency and purpose. Maybe that USC fiasco will work out well for the Saints and his pro career.
Montez Billings deserves consideration for nothing else if not desire and effort. The one handed catch was beautiful.
Only because it’s so rare (and a preseason game), I was kind of proud of Colston getting the flag after the hit. It was like the best behaved kid in class throwing a spit ball at the teacher.
And, I won’t say I’m overly worried, but Drew hasn’t looked as sharp as we’ve come to expect. But I think that will be corrected rather quickly.
All in all, I can’t wait for 9/9/10 to get here.
by Drew-Dat on Aug 28, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Im rec in' ya, but I think Brees' stats were pretty impressive and it's clear it's a pretty vanilla offense
and one of the things that put Brees on a different level is his ability to QB complex situations which will come soon.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
- Ivory did incredibly well with the TD and on one other 15 yard run, but every other handoff he took was stopped virtually at the line of scrimmage. At this point I’d take him as RB3 but I think he needs to carry out the routine 3/4 yard plays a little better.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
Hochuli
better not be the referee for the Vikings game. All I could say from Section 611 when I heard that voice was: “Hochuli.” You know, like Senifeld used to say “Newman.”
"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"
"like Senifeld used to say "Newman."
LMAO! Perfect!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 28, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
we have a lot of talent- some thoughts
it’s a shame we can’t parlay players like Billings, Arrington, Rod Harper (already gone) and Jones and some others into trades to help us at places we need help, but that’s not going to happen. There is some serious NFL potential there…probably ….It’s rare to see a player make the team on one play, but clearly Ivory did. he had some other good plays, but what coach would cut him now?
I feel bad for Leigh Torrence,-just don’t think the Saints can keep him but how many guys get cut the weeks after an 86- yd pick 6. But I can’t see him on the roster. Jenkins has potential but he’s no DSharp. Sharper hits harder than people give him credit for and the combo of having Casillas, Sharper, Harper, and some others like Dunbar ( if he survives the cut) are pretty hard hitters. U Young is giving his best, but I thionk I’d have to let him go. Betts has to make the team under the understanding that he could get let go at any time, but they need his experience
If I was Courtney Roby, I would hire Jerry Rice to train him to be a better receiver- clearly he is a good return man. If he could catch 20-30 passes per year, especially on plays he is comfortable with ( he will never be a Colston, Moore, Bush, Henderson, or Meachem). But he has talent and speed and is used to catching the ball inpressure/traffic. And if he could contribute, what defense would worry about him if Colstion, Shockey, Bush and Moore are on the field? And then there’s Meachem. There are better players but not many better who can return KOs like him..
Ramsey will be #2- Why, because he can’t be on the practice squad and Chase can and… the gambler that payton is- if anyone tries to lure him away, he can release Ramsey even though he doesn’t want to do that, and keep Daniels
who is the heir to Brees and clearly Ramsey isn’t. Daniels would probably stay especilly since you had better believe Brees is grooming him and he probably will be an heir nowhere else and he has tiies to NOLA.
I am incredibly curious about Lorenzen, Ingram, Keasey, and Vaughn. What does everyone think about them and others?
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Ramsey vs Daniel
I think Ramsey looked bad enough that Daniel has the clear edge now. In any case, I think they are going to keep all three QBs.
And Usama’s INT was kind of impressive – he came flying in out of nowhere to get to the ball and managed to catch it and not be distracted by trying to take out the receiver. His skills on special teams and his versatility in the backfield (corner, nickel, and safety) will overcome his otherwise mediocrity and earn him a roster spot.
Ramsey is clearly better than Daniel but it appears that Daniel will clearly be better pretty soon (this season or 1-2)
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Reggie, Reggie, Reggie
I forgot to mention – I voted for Reggie in the poll, mainly because he’s been a beast so far in preseason and hasn’t gotten enough love. Ivory obviously ruled this last game, but consider the following. In a little under 60 minutes of football, Reggie has 82 yards on 15 carries (about 5.5 ypc) with 2 TDs. And he also picked up 70 receiving yards on 7 catches yesterday. Extrapolate that out to a full season. That would be over 1300 rushing yards on 240 carries, including 16 touchdowns! Ok, no, I don’t think he’ll put up numbers quite as sparkling as that, but even 80% of that would be huge (1000 yards rushing on just under 200 carries).
I thought our offense looked off, didn’t help that we were constantly being pinned in deep. Our defense was average once again, did ok, one blown coverage. I’ve yet to see us put any pressure on the QB unless we’re on an all out blitz. I liked that our run D stepped up a bit. Gave up a few yards, but overall they played well, especially Vilma, which hurts that much more that he strained his groin. I’m hoping he won’t be out for too long. One thing i did not….Vaughn was absolutely great on special teams. All over the place making tackles and sealing his lanes like he should. I’m guessing his play on ST this past week elevated him to a roster spot.
Seemed we were playing pretty vanilla for the most part
We ran standard plays on offense and defense. Standard blitzes, standard passes. I’m ready for the season to start so we can see more explosive plays by our offense and defense. Reggie looked great but I voted for Ivory because I think he basically told the coaches that if they cut him, they’d regret it. That cemented his roster spot as the #3 back. I’m interested to know how he plays during the season while he’s on the field and what happens next year with Hamilton coming back. Also, I wasn’t that impressed with Ramsey last night. Overthrow to Roby then a horrendous underthrow that got intercepted. Didn’t think he played better than Daniels has. I think Daniels has the leg up so far.
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

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