Vikings vs. Saints. Fans.
So unless you've been living under a rock, you might have noticed that there's a bit of a rivalry between the two fanbases. It's gotten ugly on multiple occasions and on multiple sites. I don't have to link them; seriously, go scroll down the Fanshots at CSC or DN and you'll find plenty. It'll probably be the ones with the most comments.
We need to stop this. We wouldn't tolerate our own behavior, and by that I mean that some CSC members have made comments on DN that if a DN member made, we'd be angry about it. Let's resist making personal attacks. And that goes for BOTH sites--we shouldn't be attacking their members on our site either. Maybe we should call ourselves out on it.
Some people are naturally vitriolic. Some people have short fuses. And, on the internet, you never know the people you're fighting. Maybe they got fired that day. Maybe a family member died. Maybe their dog pissed on their foot that morning, and everything's been going downhill. Sometimes people just need a little space to vent and cool down. Sports are a great way to get out of the real world for a few minutes and indulge in pure fantasy, where we're happy and perpetually optimistic, even if it's about "the next game" and "next year" and "our draft picks." It's a way to keep up our spirits when the real world sucks. I realized that after Katrina, as did many of us on this website. Let's all try to keep that in mind. People get angry and lose their tempers online. It happens, especially on websites which are meant to be a place for colored thinking (of the Black and Gold variety, and the like). We have to accept that and not continue bitter responses. Flame wars are worthless.
We need to keep things in perspective. Darren Sharper is not your mother. If someone calls him a dirty, no-good cheat, that's OK. He can take it. Heck, maybe they're right; I can't say because I don't have access to his inner thoughts and intentions. Don't take it personally. And don't attack others personally either. You might think one blogger is wrong because he's mad and banned you, but he isn't the Anti-Christ. Don't get baited into attacks.
Also, and I would recommend others to take this up, I'm going to try my hardest to write ONLY football on others' sites. That's it. I'll color my opinions here; they're more welcome and constructively criticized. I understand that it can be annoying when that "other guy" comes around talking about a little bit more than football, so I'm not going to do it. Anything more than football invites escalation.
Lastly, I'd like to specifically point out "Jepp the Viking," "Frost," "Ted Simmons Speed Camp," "puddnhead," and "ArizonaVikingsFan" for being even-keeled and classy on DN. I'd also like to acknowledge Dave for being a great moderator on this site. Let's try to imitate these guys.
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We need to stop this. We wouldn’t tolerate our own behavior, and by that I mean that some CSC members have made comments on DN that if a DN member made, we’d be angry about it. Let’s resist making personal attacks. And that goes for BOTH sites—we shouldn’t be attacking their members on our site either. Maybe we should call ourselves out on it.
Hear hear.
Speaking on behalf of those that frequent DN, let me say that we need to rise to the same challenge. I hope you recognize that a number of us are, on the threads over there. This has gotten way WAY outta hand. I hope you also recognize that it is actually a small subset of us that is kicking the hornet’s nest (just as it is a small slice here). Unfortunately our offenders include at lest one very prominent community member, so it may seem more prevalent than it really is.
Yall’s site is great, and there seems to be actually a really large portion of yalls membership that feels the same way that we do about the extent of this bickering. While I don’t think that the arguments will ever stop entirely, I do think that it’s entirely possible to have a better-than-average relationship with yall’s members and site. And again, I’d like to thank you for being a vocal ‘good guy.’ Here’s to a good game, better relations, and the best damn sport in the history of the world.
Devery Henderson, making absurd grabs for my teams since 2001.
by Andrew Tessier on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm calling it, I am gunna win that super bowl ring in that raffle
"Get me a Gatorade with electrolytes."
-Will Smith
by Who Dat Patate on Sep 3, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh!
What will you do about the fact that it has my name in it?
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
I'll sign off on this.
Nice work.
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by Dave Cariello on Aug 31, 2010 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well Said and Rec'd
Good writeup and I hope we do. Although flame wars inevitably arise when emotions get high. And football is an emotional sport. But very good advice nonetheless.
Oh when Brees, marches down the field, Oh when Brees gets into the redzone, Oh how I want to see him throw a TD! Oh when Brees marches down the field.
i agree
correct me if i’m wrong however, wasn’t it the moderator of DN that post several inflamatory items calling the saints cheats and so on? and when certain people went to DN to respond, in a non-confrontational way, he banned them without a second thought? just saying, it should start at the top.
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
by saintsfan77 on Sep 1, 2010 5:01 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think puddnhead said it best
Unfortunately our offenders include at lest one very prominent community member
Ditto Rec'd
I can say that I have posted on DN a few times, and even gone so far as to admit that I believe the Vikes have been a team of consistant quality for quite some time. That being said however, I found myself being personally attacked just for disagreeing with some of their members opinions. And I try to never call anyone names or personally attack, but I’ll admit it’s hard not to at times!
I know there are some classy fans there, just as the vast majority of people here are some great folks. We just have to remember not to let the minority drag us down to their level!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
Nope, sorry
I don’t buy into the moral equivalence of this post. I hate it that this may sound juvenile, but…they started it. Saints fans didn’t have anything at all against Vikings fans until they started this meme (can’t believe I used that word) of the Saints as a dirty, cheating, no-class bunch of phony champions. And it was started, and continued, with vehemence and at every opportunity, not by the fan base at large but by the moderator of the site. Then, recently, he widened his slander to include the entire state of Louisiana and everyone in it.
Responding to crap like that, on a site of which we are members too, is not the same as starting it, any more than fighting an invader or suing a contract breaker puts one on the same moral plane as the malefactor. If the language got rough, it happens. Personally, I think Chris Gates deserves all the insulting language he generates for himself.
It was worth the wait.
by MtnExile on Sep 1, 2010 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 12 recs
rec'd
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
by jeremysherwin on Sep 1, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Just because someone’s an A$$hole doesn’t mean you need to be one in return.
by jeff.l.b on Sep 1, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah but you can still name their name.
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
I agree with Stu.
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Green.
Sorry, we didn’t go stir up any $4!7 at DN, we didn’t make any offensive posts about the Vikings before or after the NFCCG (I have made some pretty less than polite posts about Brent FAR-VUH, but they are based on him as a PERSON, not a Vikings player – I have direct personal experience with that dirtbag of a human being).
No excusing the garbage that Crissy Gates spews.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess you feel eye for and eye
I realy thought better of you MtnExile but we all have our own opinions for a reason.
First of all: “eye for an eye” is actually meant to be a limitation on retribution, not a harsh response. Too many people don’t understand that.
Secondly, my reason for the way I react to Gates is this: I’m standing up for my side. There’s a very well-known quote that applies here: “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” I’ll admit, what’s been going on is so petty it hardly merits being called “evil”; but the principle is the same. Gates isn’t making these statements in order to get attention; he’s doing it because he can, and he doesn’t care if you like it, or read it. It was at one time possible to have an actual conversation at Daily Norseman, and now it’s increasingly difficult—for some, the Banned, it’s impossible. And it’s because of one person.
I do not accept either proposition: that the Saints played a dirty game in the NFCCG, or that CSC members are responsible for either starting or continuing the flame war at DN. It started, it goes on, and it must end, with Chris Gates. Either he stops, or SBNation steps in and stops him. There is little that we can do to affect a person who is acting in a flagrantly immature and irrational manner.
It was worth the wait.
by MtnExile on Sep 1, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
BOOM rec'd it
sing it
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
I am with Stu on this one
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
While I agree with Andrew on this:
We need to stop this. We wouldn’t tolerate our own behavior, and by that I mean that some CSC members have made comments on DN that if a DN member made, we’d be angry about it. Let’s resist making personal attacks. And that goes for BOTH sites—we shouldn’t be attacking their members on our site either.
…I also have to back M-E up on his position. It seems to me that it was Gates who first declared war, so I see no reason for our side to assume much blame. I agree that we all should take the higher road and move on. That’s why I just don’t post over there anymore. I haven’t yet been banned, but I know if I post any comments over there it will only stir some to try and run me off from their turf. I say we just leave them alone. I remember I hated the Bears after 2006 almost as much as some Vikes fans hate us now. Some of their vitriol is understandable, but I’m sick of the accusations that our guys played dirty or Gregg Williams is somehow an evil person. Give it a rest, for crying out loud. It was the playoffs where you either win or go home. The intensity must be increased or you will lose. The Vikes didn’t rise to the challenge (12 men in the huddle? Come on, Man!) and Favre basically threw the game away with one pass. Let’s move on.
The Vikes fans Andrew lists (plus several more) are all good people. Others (both here and at DN) can’t help but whack the hornet’s nest from time to time. Let’s not let them ruin it for the rest of us.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 1, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh oh
If that kind of commentary bothers you:
but I’m sick of the accusations that our guys played dirty or Gregg Williams is somehow an evil person
Don’t go there and read the “”http://www.dailynorseman.com/2010/9/1/1663674/theres-always-two-sides-to-every" target="new">There’s always two sides to every story right?" post.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
"We Viking fans have been extremely gracious about this."
A good example of what I mean when I say there’s no getting through to some people.
It was worth the wait.
condemned
The king is gone but he's not forgotten
Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?
by stujo4 on Sep 1, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Boom Rec for Stu
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
It is called a FIRM EMBRACE!!
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Grumps, I have to say, I was impressed by that channeling of Johnnie Cochran
by theprogrammerman on Sep 1, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad somebody liked it
it got crickets over there
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I suspect it has something to do with the cold, affects the sense of humor and it doesn’t thaw until…well, right before the first snowfall and there you are again.
by theprogrammerman on Sep 2, 2010 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 2, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Or maybe it’s just that your point seems lame to us. You basically say it’s alright it’s completely irrelevant to whether its acceptable or not that the NFL’s head official actually announced a couple days later that it should have been, and even fined players for that play. Yeah, that doesn’t mean NFL officials they didn’t anything wrong. Ha ha.
I have to admit I did find that post funny, but not the way you probably intended. I found funny the implicit comparison to OJ’s murder trial, that you were creating a direct comparison between what the Saints D allegedly did to Favre, to what OJ allegedly did to his ex wife and Goldman. Not that either of those were funny in themselves, but that you were (unconsciously … I hope?) put what the Saints D and OJ got away with on the same level of acceptability.
Besides, If there wasn’t a flag on the hit, you must aquit! doesn’t even fit the meter & rhyme of Cochran (what made it memorable in the first place). May I suggest If the flag didn’t flit, you must aquit. That’s the best my frozen sense of humor can muster, sorry.
sends out a hand warmer and a bowl of gumbo to puddinhead hope it helps.
by theprogrammerman on Sep 2, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I read that post and I have to agree in that there were not two sides to that post. It was yet another I hate the Saints and everyone was conspiring to keep the Vikings out of the Superbowl. For one, the ankle spurs were on the ankle that was not injured that night. For two, you try to stop yourself in mid-fall in the air. For three, what other late hits were there?? And finally, yeah the league fined some players to make up to the rest of the people. The league should have grew a pair and said, maybe they were late hits and maybe they were not, we are not going to penalyze a group of people cause the Vikings didn’t make it into the Superbowl. We understand that there is a large Viking fan base that purchases Viking goods and we don’t want to alienate them. etc etc etc. Late hits, I hate hearing that because I have yet to see any footage from the game that shows a late hit. The interception, yeah it was an interception and Favre got taken out, just like Brees would have got taken out if he threw an interception. Not a late hit. The ankle thing?? WTF he was falling donw!!!!!!!! Yeah that’s a late hit. So where are the late hits!!!? The Saints get called cheats and d-bags and what not, and I call out the vikings fans to show me where the late hits are. Just because the lazy and scrotum-less people that are in charge of the NFL decide to fine some players to appease the masses doesn’t make it right. So where are these late hits??? If those are the only two you can think of, maybe you should review the rules and tape a little bit more before you start spouting your foulness about the Saints (copy of above post sent to DN site
one hit that they got called for was
bogus….one player was on the ground, and he crawled after favre from behind, just being aggressive and trying to get at the QB, finishing the play, and at the same time, another saints player got to favre from the front. now, it’s not like either of the two players knew the other was there, or like they whispered in the huddle " hehehe you crouch down behind him and i’ll push him over you"…it’s football, it’s an aggressive contact sport, and even favre said he didn’t have a problem with the way the saints D played. the majority of the turnovers in the game were forced turnovers, forced by the saints D, so nothing was “handed to the Saints”, some people just need to accept a loss and move on without all the whining.
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
I think you are a little confused as to how that hit went down...
Not that football is not a contact sport or anything, but McCray dove at Favre’s legs while Ayodele hit him high.
Not that they were trying to high-low him, but it is a lot different than “he crawled after Favre from behind”.
no im not confused
he was on the ground crawling, and then lunged at favres legs, regardless, it wasn’t planned ahead of time, neither player knew the other was there, therefore it wasn’t a dirty hit, just unfortunate timing.
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
Yes you are "confused"
And here is the video to prove it “Crawling?” LOL, puhleeeeeeease.
McCray might have landed on the ground short of Favre’s legs if he’d just continued his trajectory. But if you watch the play closely you ‘ll see he put his right hand down on the turf as he was diving (like a one handed pushup) in order to remain airborne & propel himself far enough to slam right into Favre’s ankle on the fly.
Again … I don’t know why you guys keep insisting this was a legal hit, when the NFL office has already directly said it was not, and even fined your players for it! Stop denying what the league has already declared is true. It just makes you look silly, and maybe we Vikings fans might just stop repeating it to you ad naseum if you would stop denying it ad naseum.
Appearing Wednesday night on both the NFL Network and NFL.com, vice president of officiating Mike Pereira admitted there should have been a 15-yard penalty on the third-quarter play where Vikings quarterback Brett Favre suffered a left ankle injury. We questioned the no-call on Monday, and Pereira said: "We just missed it."
On the play, Saints defensive end Bobby McCray hit Favre in what Pereira called "pretty much a direct shot into the back of the legs." That contact violated an NFL rule prohibiting low hits on quarterbacks.
"It’s the type of hit that we don’t want," Pereira said, "… because clearly we’re trying to protect the knees and we need to focus on this to make sure we don’t miss [them]."
Had the penalty been called, Jonathan Vilma’s interception would have been nullified and the Vikings would have re-gained possession with a first down at the Saints’ 19-yard line.
Because I’m sick of this insistence on denying reality, I decided to highlight that last sentence in retribution of sorts, and emphasize a fact that I had avoided bringing up on this board before now. The past is the past, what is done can’t be undone. But you just think about the ramifications of that last sentence, and you think about whether you guys could’ve won that game if the refs had made the right call on that play. It’s not me saying that is what should have happened. It’s not the blogmaster of DN saying that’s what should have happened. It’s the boss of all the refs, the guys who decide what happens, saying what should have happened. You insisting you know better is about as lame as me saying I know Catholic doctrine better than the Pope!
Big bunch of crying Barneys
It’s over, GET OVER IT.
If you can pull out stuff from last year, how ’bout we pull out stuff from a previous season, hmmm?
How about the blatant facemask that led to a “fumble” in 2008, hmm?
Stop whining.
Sack up.
If your team really is better, they get the chance to prove it on national TV tonight.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 9, 2010 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, please DO stop whining. This “Bobby McCray didn’t do anything wrong, wah wah why are people saying we did something wrong” stuff has gotten WAY beyond annoying.
You got away with one. Man up, admit it, thank the football gods and STOP DENYING FACTS when people post them.
Missed this one:
Really?
How do you get called for ROUGHING THE PASSER on a RUNNING PLAY?
:-P
FAR-VUH was a BLOCKER, by rule, on the play that McCray got flagged for; and guess what happens when a blocker gets overrun – unless he’s FAR-VUH – tough $4 You go to block someone and get blown up, that’s the breaks. At least for actual football players.
Apparently this isn’t the case if you’re Brent FAR-VUH….guess he’s not an actual football player then, eh?
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 11, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm ...
this argument is rapidly losing my interest, but I feel I need to at least try to clear up your confusion. We are talking about the play which McCray hurt Favre on. Pleas go see my excerpt a couple posts up of Pereira’s comments on it. Obviously it was a passing play (heck, it even ended up as an interception).
You are engaging in an argument about a play which no one else is even talking about. have fun arguing with yourself.
To be fair...
It was a Saints fan who brought the hit up, and we were simply responding to his claim that McCray was crawling when he hit Favre.
one hit that they got called for was
bogus….one player was on the ground, and he crawled after favre from behind,
The tape shows differently.
That said, put yourself in our shoes. I can guarantee you that just as many Saints fans would be crying foul if it was the other way around and would still be talking about it to this day in the same way that some Vikes fans are.
Don’t try to act holier than thou, Saints fans are the same as Vikes fans, just in a different section of the country.
Honestly...
dude was pushed down by your RT and tried to get to the QB. I don’t care who from the NFL said what, but part of the rules about hitting the QB in the legs is supposed to account for people blocked to the ground. If your RT didn’t try to push McCray down, Favre would have been sandwiched and maybe his ankle wouldn’t have been injured. Do you think players are just supposed to stop running at their intended target just because somebody pushes them down? If that’s the case, then we have a new scheme for all offensive linemen to block anybody trying to get the QB.
Just saying…
by BlackandGold4ever on Sep 9, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You are arguing the wrong point...
The dispute here is that saintsfan77 claimed that McCray was on the ground and CRAWLED to catch Favre.
Read the posts again.
no im not confused
he was on the ground crawling, and then lunged at favres legs,
If he was on the ground, then got up to “lunge” at Favre’s legs, then that WOULD have been a dirty hit.
Per NFL.com rulebook:
“No defensive player who has an unrestricted path to the quarterback may hit him flagrantly in the area of the knee(s) or below when approaching in any direction. "
So you should actually read the conversation, then comment. Not the other way around.
:p
Dude...Just...Give...It...Up...that was LAST YEAR.
and, do you really think that you are going to convince a saints fan, on their blog, that any of that matters now?
we’re gonna kick the living SHIT out of them in 2 hours.
(i.e. cut off their nuts and rape their women, figuratively).
SKOL VIKINGS !!!
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
I just find it funny...
That one of them is arguing that the hit was dirtier than it actually was, and the other is arguing a point I made 4 posts earlier.
make that LESS than 2 hours !!!
we’re gonna carpet burn that mole off of brees’ face.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
i think you should watch the video again
your own O-lineman pushed him to the ground towards favre, and yes he did crawl, though a short distance, ive seen it on another video from a different angle. my point wasn’t as to whether or not the hit was legal, i said it wasn’t planned or intentional nor DIRTY as so many viking fans and even the couch insinuate. it was an unfortunate hit yes, but not a dirty one. and as far as the boss of the refs saying it should have been called, there were several calls that should have been made against the vikings that weren’t, it happens in every game, they just went public about it because favre took a beating and the nfl kisses favre’s ass. good luck in the game tonight.
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
shut up?
nice…how juvenile.
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
yea, what do you think this is, a saints blog?
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
no
it’s a brett favre’s ankle is still purplier than his uniform blog
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
probably
but i’m more interested in what’s on NFL network right now, you’re just an afterthought
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
well, that's a little better...
have fun !!!
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
lol..
you too man..good luck
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
Dude..
You said:
he was on the ground crawling, and then lunged at favres legs,
I merely disputed that fact. McCray was NOT on the ground, he was falling forward. If he WERE on the ground crawling, it would have been a dirty hit..
I reiterate:
"No defensive player who has an unrestricted path to the quarterback may hit him flagrantly in the area of the knee(s) or below when approaching in any direction. "
maybe i worded incorrectly
he was forced to the ground by your o-lineman or whoever it was that pushed him, the point i was trying to make is that he wasn’t deliberately trying to hurt favre, he wasn’t thinking he was going to hit him low and hurt him while the other player hit him high. was it a stupid play? maybe, but it wasn’t a dirty play
"These two teams just should not play each other" ...John Madden during a 1991 Saints-Eagles game
That point was made in my FIRST response to you...
Not that they were trying to high-low him, but it is a lot different than "he crawled after Favre from behind".
We are in agreement as to intent, but your own words made it sound dirtier than it was. I was actually defending McCray.
Others (both here and at DN) can’t help but whack the hornet’s nest from time to time. Let’s not let them ruin it for the rest of us.
Need names.
The king is gone but he's not forgotten
Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?
No names to give
I was mostly thinking of people like REVENGE4FAVRE who’ve posted a Fanpost over here once or twice. I can’t remember who it was (other than that they were Saints fans who don’t post here often) who went over there and stirred the pot a few times also. I was mostly including members of our site in that statement as an attempt for solidarity to show that’s it’s not all one sided. Not referring to you.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 1, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Disappointed?
Don’t want to call out my fellow CSC brethren. I’ve been tempted to post over there once or twice (recent Gregg Williams video in which he doesn’t apologize for the aggressiveness of his D) but then decided against it because of the ruckus that would surely ensue. I do vaguely remember this one Saints fan whose moniker started with a “d” I think that I haven’t seen posts from in a long time who went over to DN and thoroughly pissed them off. Grime could tell you who that was. I remember him politely posting once that that guy was an a**hole or something to that effect. I saw some of “d’s” posts over there and they surely did go way over the top, so I couldn’t disagree with Grime. That was way back in February or March or think. I’m too lazy to search for the posts.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 1, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
satch just named an initial
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That's all I could remember. :)
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 1, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Rhymes with... 'eck ape'?
you can’t hold the rest of us responsible for that guy!
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Tiny Baby Steps
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I like to shake things up at the DN every now and then
You know, after a bad day at the office, or whatever. It’s a good way to let off some steam. Getting Chris Gates and the rest of those jokers to crap all over themselves. I try not to make it meanspirited or personal. Does it make me a bad person?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If you can believe it, I still haven't been banned there
that should be a vote of confidence, right?
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea!! We want answers and names now!
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all: "eye for an eye" is actually meant to be a limitation on retribution, not a harsh response. Too many people don’t understand that.
No kidding! Today it sounds harsh because we give murders a three week vacation at club fed and let them out again. (I exaggerate, of course.) But for much of human history such a one-for-one type of punishment would be extremely mild. I mean, people were boiled alive in Medieval England for stealing a loaf of bread.
I do not accept either proposition: that the Saints played a dirty game in the NFCCG, or that CSC members are responsible for either starting or continuing the flame war at DN. It started, it goes on, and it must end, with Chris Gates. Either he stops, or SBNation steps in and stops him. There is little that we can do to affect a person who is acting in a flagrantly immature and irrational manner.
Yeah. While we SHOULD try to do what we can to avoid fanning the flames by provoking him on his site, at the same time he’s a cowardly pustule of spoiled brat moronic foolishness who needs to be called on the carpet by SBNation. Until and unless he changes his actions on his own then others need to continue to point it out, and eventually SBN must stop it by whatever means necessary.
wow, M-E with not just 1, but with 2! green posts. He's on fire
by Ezio_Auditore on Sep 1, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I always imagine Dave as a reality show camera man
he might want to get involved but stays quiet and let’s it roll….until there is a real issue then he jumps in.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
Chris is sort of a Porn camera man
He always wants to jump in! And honestly who can blame him….
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Ok, now we’ve got a name on the table.
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
Happy Day
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
actually I wouldn't put money on that
After the game several people from CSC came do DN to disparage us not because of what we had written but what was written on yahoo pages of all things. Yeah Yahoo. Now did it blow up into a serious retardation sure it did. Do I hate people at CSC of course I don’t. Chris did get carried away and many of us on DN did talk to him about it to the point when he was yelling at us instead. The argument was valid the way it was carried out asinine. However, since i was not mentioned as a nice guy I can be a total ass hat here. I’m pretty happy about that.
Actually the MOST annoying thing (other than people using capitols for emphasis) is that now we have a solid game in front of us and I feel like I can’t talk trash without it getting blown out of proportion. Personally I think that is full on suckitude.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Actually the MOST annoying thing (other than peopleusing capitols for emphasisthat correct other's spelling and grammar)
fixed that for you.
you know, when you want something, and nobody can stop you from taking it, you just take it, right? I like that, but can you take it?
I'm not that funny so I have to set up my own jokes.. :D
But you are correct sire.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Sorry Grime
Forgot to include you……
Devery Henderson, making absurd grabs for my teams since 2001.
by Andrew Tessier on Sep 4, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m kind of over it. Dwelling on the past (at least as it applies to the NFC CG) seems kind of pathetic at this point. I’ve also learned long ago (though have to continue to remind myself on a regular basis) that most laughably ignorant morons, especially those on the internet, will not be educated with logic, will not comprehend most of the insults I throw at them, are anonymous and so can dodge any punches or molotov cocktails I’d like to throw, and are so ridiculously beyond understanding and intelligent thought that it’s really a disservice to myself to continue to waste time and effort on them. Think I’ll save my energy for a heated debate with someone that actually has a brain in their head.
by Jimbo03 on Sep 1, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Some people have short fuses.
GAAAAAAA!!!
try my hardest to write ONLY football on others’ sites. That’s it.
Me too. I posted a photo of a silver football trophy on DN and asked them how they liked it and Sarge banned me for life. Well, until he loses the blog anyway. I’m biding my time.
Although your mind's opaque,
Try thinking more, if just for your own sake.
by stujo4 on Sep 1, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
maybe your 2010 locker room t-shirt should read
Try Harder
and
Biding My Time
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I will post anything for you Stu
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well get on over to Daily Norseman and put that trophy out there. Ask ’em what they think of it and send them my love.

The king is gone but he's not forgotten
Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?
and drink my kool-aid
and see if you can find a little patch of ground for my compound down there north of Brazil somewhere.
The king is gone but he's not forgotten
Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?
I will post this after we Win next week.
I will sign.
With heart felt Love,
Stu
Missing home and my Saints.
by Brazil meets LA on Sep 1, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
go stujo! It’s wrong when people make insulting comments about "we deseved the hurricand and such PERIOD, classless and evil comments like that should be condemed! I also agree with the saying, “The world is a dangerous place, not because of those that do evil but because of those who do nothing about it.” that’s close without looking it up….
Gris Gris Man, Voodoo Surgeon General and Master of Witch Doctory
by Gris Gris Man on Sep 4, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Strange goings-on at Daily Norseman
The larger one had a nasty exchange between one of the site admins and Saints fans in which there were eventually many, many posts (by DN Viking regulars as well as Saints visitors) that expressed the opinion that Gonzo had gone too far, posts which were getting up to 20 recs apiece. Based upon what I read in posts there before they were wiped out, there were also a flurry of bans from DN issued in a very short time…
In summary, I am troubled by these developments, and I would like to politely – but firmly – request an explanation of what happened, and some kind of assurance that it won’t continue to happen unless there is good reason, and that reason is a violation of some posted, clear statement of rules of conduct.
Even DNers are getting tired of the nonsense coming from their “front office.”
It was worth the wait.
I think if Gates didn't delete it, he would have left himself and SBNation open to a libel suit
He attributed a quote he made up to Darren Sharper. I don’t think Darren or his lawyers would have pursued it, but it was still there, now its not. Dumb move to post that, smart move to delete it.
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
now...
I am curious as to what exactly happened.
I like to poke a little good-natured fun every now and then, but this post sounds like it got out of hand quick and if Gates was at the center of it, it is disappointing.
To keep it short. Gates posted about Sharper possibly being cut or put on the PUP list to start the season. A rant was done in the post trashing out Sharper, telling him to hand over his game check to Shiancoe, being generally offensive and obviously trying to bring out some troll bait. Several DN members called him out on it for not being professional. A lot of good posts were done under the thread by both DN’ers and CSC members trying to work through it all, calm things down and basically attempt a ceasefire. It was good therapy despite the original crap post. Then it promptly got deleted. A lot of people felt it got deleted because of the sheer number of DN members calling out Gates for the classless post.
that's another good thing to do
avoid posts/comments that aren’t worth reading
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
jeff.l.b. that's a better explanation than i got on DN.
i wonder if anyone happened to “right-click-save” that file. i wanna rubber-neck at it now ;).
p.s. your recent travels to DN now have some more context….maybe best to let it rest, tho.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
He attributed a quote he made up to Darren Sharper. I don’t think Darren or his lawyers would have pursued it, but it was still there, now its not. Dumb move to post that, smart move to delete it.
Considering that the internet really is forever — somebody ALWAYS has a screenshot or a backup somewhere — even deleting it won’t be enough if somebody really wants to pursue it.
But I agree with you that I’m pretty sure D# won’t waste his time.
agreed and rec'd
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
let's all just play nice
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
My preference is...
…IGNORE the Daily Remorseman, and treat the Vike fans that come here and “play nice” with the courtesy and respect I expect from them.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 1, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That’s a perfectly acceptable approach. But we do welcome those of you who do want to come over, and act the same way as you expect of us. There was some great, almost 100% positive back and forth between the communities around the time of the NFCCG, the best we maybe had all year with another team. That really is the case, and that included Chris, despite the attempt by one or two here to rewrite history and claim that he promoted that “Hurricane Brett” image, when he actually posted it to publically call it out.
I hope we can get back to that place, which is why I’m posting so much on this topic. Hopefully it’s gonna be a good, exciting, dramatic, meaningful game (well, if we still have at least 22 players that are not out for injuries by the time it comes, lol). Just like the last one. Let’s all try to enjoy the run up to it. Together. Just like the last one.
But we do welcome those of you who do want to come over, and act the same way as you expect of us.
What about the lost souls in purgatory? I’m actually not much of a mocker. Oh… That would be after the Wikings cut Lito. Then I won’t mock.
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
To be fair...
The NFCCG has created a bit of a rivalry here between not only the fanbases, but the teams as well. The selection of the Vikes-Saints game as the season opener only serves to further this rivalry.
Now in all my time as a Vikings fan, I have been in a rivalry with the Packers due to their close proximity. There is always a lot of good-natured ribbing and the occasional drunken jack-ass involved with fans of the opposing team. In a bar situation it rarely escalates past that point because the comments are rarely taken seriously.
It seems like on the interwebz, a lot of what would be considered “Ribbing” takes on a new form and becomes something completely different. Tone and demeanor are hard to convey in type, so even something as simple as a joke gets taken seriously and turns into something that makes us both look bad.
The reason why a rivalry is fun is that you have not only two teams against each other, but two fan-bases. You cannot have a rivalry where the two groups ignore each other, it just does not work.
Then again, you can’t have a rivalry that get’s too serious, otherwise you end up as a disservice to both teams.
Look, I come on these sites to talk football and occasionally throw a good-natured jab at an opposing fan. That is what makes football fun, having someone to root against. It satisfies a deep need we all have that stems from thousands of years of war.
Some people are going to take it too far, and we can’t get too worked up about it. If there is a post that crosses the line, it should be reported and deleted, but we cannot expect everyone to just play nice.
Besides, no matter how hard we try to be civil, there will always be some anonymous jackass who just wants to fan the flames.
by Bjorno on Sep 1, 2010 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What do you do when that jackass is the moderator?
The question of whether or not the Saints’ defense crossed a line during the NFCCG is a good one, and worthy of debate. We all know how the two fan bases are going to stand on that issue, but that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it. But how can you have a discussion when the man in charge is spewing nonsense right and left every time the subject is brought up (often enough, by himself), and making wild claims to the effect that “everyone knows” the Vikings were really the best team in 2009? If I attempt to marshal an argument based on historic precedent and a close reading of the rulebook, how can that be effective when the argument on the other side has pretty much devolved to “Everyone in Louisiana is scum”? Of course the level of discourse plummets…how can it not, when it’s freighted with that kind of rage?
I would love for us to have friendly relations with every team (we have great relations with the Falcons…if we can do it with them, we can do it with anyone). But I also can’t see just sitting on my hands while my team, my friends, and even everyone in my home state is slandered by the guy in charge of your blog. The problem isn’t that we don’t know how to hold civilized discourse…it’s that one person doesn’t want to. We can’t really do anything about this; you guys can. So do something.
It was worth the wait.
by MtnExile on Sep 1, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Well...
Considering they are asking CG (weird, my initials as well) about his actions and trying to discuss some kind of admin agreements so posts wont be randomly deleted, i think they are trying to do something.
I would have to say to Chris that the liberal use of the ban hammer when someone opposes/disagrees with your comments will essentially turn conversation stale and boring (as everyone being on the same page and agreeing with each other is basically one big ongoing warm fuzzy group hug) but i don’t necessarily criticize a site admin for banning someone for repeat violations of their “code of conduct”. Publicly warning the poster of the violations and following the three strike rule is a suggestion.
I think the absolute power got the best of him. Hopefully for the DN’ers and Vikings fans (as well as those who want to hold civilized conversations with said fans) he understands the concepts of open discussions will only make his site better.
Someone mentioned in one of these posts that it is easy to refrain from reading or responding to antagonistic posts or comments. We won’t be able to change some of their perspectives on the game just like they won’t be able to change ours. I gave up a long time ago trying to post stats to support my opinion just because that there really is no point. People will believe what they want to regardless of someone pointing out something that contradicts their own belief. And that’s just fine. They are entitled to their opinion as are we. For those on either side that continue to bring up the same old comments, i would hope that they can just put the “fight” aside and move on. 8 days to a new season.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
by Grumps on Sep 1, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
People will believe what they want to regardless of someone pointing out something that contradicts their own belief.
I don’t believe that
;)
Well you better bloody well believe it
Statistics show that i am right at least 1.36% of the time when i post something while wearing matching socks.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
Statistics show that i am right at least 1.36% of the time when i post something while wearing matching socks.
as opposed to what percentage when you are wearing matching panties and bra?
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
0.74%
I tend to lose focus as the panties ride up my crack.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
No
Just big legs which seem to cause the “hungry bum syndrome”
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
i see, you are an "edible" thong man.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
LOL
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
The flaming has gone on this long because of Gates.
I guess I haven’t been banned because I always try to be funny when responding to him. I have given up rational debate with him so I just try to act like a 5 year old.
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
Maybe it's the Guinness talkin'...
…but….werd.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 1, 2010 1:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You know what? Who hates the Falcons?
I do as do most of you. Yet we’ve never had a situation with them because of Dave Inchoate. It’s the moderator. Sarge could learn a lot from The Daves if he’d take off his uniform for a minute.
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
by stujo4 on Sep 1, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
BOOM
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah no kidding. They are #1 on my most-hated list of teams. But I still love Dave the Falconer. Feel sorry for him for rooting for the wrong team, of course, but still like him as a person.
by FriarBob on Sep 1, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
redundant and BOOM rec'd it
M-E is on a roll, sing it.
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
I did not have a chance to read said post...
So I really cannot comment on the contents nor the result of the postings and subsequent deletion of the post.
What I can say, is that you are not the first fanbase to call foul on Gonzo’s practices.
That said, the only way he will see any repercussions is if his comments/actions are reported to someone other than the site moderator, which there is no easy way to do.
I do know he has received a backlash from his own members and that should prevent future situations.
Is he guilty of being an overzealous superfan with a bit of a power trip? Maybe. Was he drunk? Maybe.
All I can say is my interactions with him have been pretty level-headed and I have not had any personal issues with him.
Now, about the argument between Saints-Vikes: Who was the best?
Granted, I am biased as everyone else is. But I see two teams pretty equally matched on the offensive side of the ball, but on the defense I see the Vikings as having the edge. While the Saints play a different brand of defense, there is no denying the talent on the Vikings D is superior. Not by a huge amount, but measurable nonetheless.
I am just glad the game was as good as it was, and it would have been nice if one of the last few key plays were not sullied by a phantom pass interference play.
In a situation like that, the refs need to let the players play and only call penalties that are blatant.
Not saying we would have won had the penalty not been called, but it would have been more of a battle, and more satisfying for both teams.
Interesting....
Granted, I am biased as everyone else is. But I see two teams pretty equally matched on the offensive side of the ball, but on the defense I see the Vikings as having the edge. While the Saints play a different brand of defense, there is no denying the talent on the Vikings D is superior. Not by a huge amount, but measurable nonetheless.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 1, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit...
….meant to hit preview, hit post by mistake. :-P
Let me help you out Bjorno, because you’re not getting something right here:
Saints total offensive ranking in 2009: 1
Vikings total offensive ranking in 2009: 14
Saints passing offense 2009: 1
Vikings passing offense 2009: 13
Saints rushing offense 2009: 4
Vikings rushing offense: 12 (even with AP-all-day? ROFL!!!)
You are correct on defense, as long as all you look at is yards allowed. However, the Vikes were ranked behind the Saints D in turnovers, red zone scoring defense, defensive scoring, passes defensed, opposing QB rating, and quite a few others….
…I’d say it’s a CLEAR advantage to the Saints on offense, as they have returned all 11 starters, and a pretty convincing draw (at best) on defense, except that the only numbers that the Vikes are good in is yards allowed, they’re outclassed by the Saints (last year) in every other meaningful statistic.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 1, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
By the numbers...
You got me.
But we played different teams, different divisions, different schedule. Comparing based on numbers only gives us part of the picture, but I have to concede you had a better offense last year.
Like I said in my statement, you play a different style of defense. Heavy on the turnovers, which is why I blame our loss in the NFCCG on Brad Childress and how he did not seem to prepare our team for a game against a defense that focuses on forcing turnovers.
Most of my comparison was based on the NFCCG anyhow, since that is the only real way to compare two teams; to play them against each other. Considering that aspect, our offense outperformed yours by a healthy margin. But your defense won the turnover battle by a LOOONG shot.
The bottom line is, I am excited for September 8th.
There's only ONE set of numbers that really matters:
Vikes 28
Saints 31
In the end, while your offense put up some pretty impressive NUMBERS, they fell short on that one all-important one.
ADVANTAGE: Saints
…FWIW, I’m not trying to stir you up, thanks for your sensible replies and comments.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 1, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
We will see what the number is
In 9 days.
Not trying, but you may be succeeding.
That does make my point, a lot of times things are misconstrued in type.
September 9th
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
and the number right now is 0-0
I wonder who’ll win the opening coin toss
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Saints better win the coin toss!
Otherwise the Vikings will have cheated!
(for DN members here, this is our “sarcasm font”)
You just inadvertently touched on what is perhaps the biggest difference between the two teams, and the biggest reason we won the Super Bowl and you didn’t: we have Sean Payton, and you have Brad Childress. Our team is led by an acknowledged offensive mastermind, and yours is led by the man nicknamed “Clueless,” a man reputedly held in low esteem by that paragon of brain wattage, Brent Farve (for you, Gard).
And like GSO, I’m not saying these things just to get you riled up…but because I think they’re true. Childress really is out of his depth as a game manager. He has arguably done a good job building the team (although the experiment with #4 isn’t over yet), but he can’t handle a team once it’s on the field. So yeah, blame him. I like to see that, it’s refreshing.
It was worth the wait.
by MtnExile on Sep 1, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
He has arguably done a good job building the team (although the experiment with #4 isn’t over yet),
He has really neglected the QB position. Favre’s a stopgap. Where is the next Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan? Not in Minnesohta.
The king is gone but he's not forgotten
Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?
They (possibly) barely have an Alex Smith much less an Aaron Rodgers.
Oh when Brees, marches down the field, Oh when Brees gets into the redzone, Oh how I want to see him throw a TD! Oh when Brees marches down the field.
He has certainly neglected it for years.
Johnson, Holcomb, Frerrotte, Favre.
Favre was the best decision he made, but it’s not like it took any brain power to know that Favre would make the team better.
Oops... hit post on accident.
Anyhow, Tjack could still turn out to be a serviceable QB. Good, not great.
Webb on the other hand, could have “It”. “It” is what Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre, and Rodgers have. It’s that unknown factor that just makes them good.
But right now, he is only a project.
Who's Webb?
Who did he play for in college?
Devery Henderson, making absurd grabs for my teams since 2001.
by Andrew Tessier on Sep 2, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Joe Webb- UAB whatever that is
Good luck with that.
rotoworld.com:
Joe Webb-QB – Vikings Aug. 2 – 3:16 pm et Sixth-round QB Joe Webb is expected to be the Vikings’ No. 3 QB this season. Webb “doesn’t seem to grasp a lot of what’s going on” early in camp, but that’s expected after he started OTAs as a wide receiver. The Vikes don’t seem keen on keeping Sage Rosenfels as a $3 million third QB. He’s expected to be traded or released by early September.
Joe Webb-QB – Vikings Aug. 9 – 2:04 pm et Sixth-round QB Joe Webb has “really struggled” early in Vikings camp. “His head is spinning,” coordinator Bevell said. “The playbook is immense.” Webb has freakish athletic ability, but it’s no surprise that he’s struggling with the offense. He was considered a raw developmental project if he stayed at QB in the NFL.
The king is gone but he's not forgotten
Is this the story of Johnny Rotten?
U. of Alabama - Birmingham
kinda like U of Louisiana-Lafayette
or U. of Arkansas – Slippery Rock
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 2, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
he was pretty good in college
with a year under brett he might be a keeper
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Brett Favre had absolutely nothing to do with the development of Aaron Rodgers or any other QB behind him. He wouldn’t even speak to Rodgers because he considered him to be a threat to his job. Favre is not a coach, a teacher, or a mentor. If the kid learns anything, it’ll be by observing and it’s likely to be bad for his career.
If you are wond'rin' what I'm gonna do
While you are sleepin', am I sleepin' too?
Come on, stop spreading rumors proven false. Rodgers himself has denied the idea that Favre wouldn’t speak to him.
Even if you refuse to believe me, take off your bitterness goggles for just a second & use your own logic: Rodgers did say he was surprised and disappointed that Favre stopped talking to him after the unretirement controversy heated up & he got dumped to the Jets.
So, if Favre never spoke to Rodgers when Favre was with the Pack, why on earth is he surprised and hurt that favre didn’t talk to him after he left?
Bzzt.
That is what we are hoping.
There is a lot that Favre can teach a young QB, and there is also a lot that a young QB can learn not to do.
I am just hoping he can tell the difference.
What do you expect out of a...
“Raw Developmental Project”?
He has the arm, good mechanics, poise under pressure, seems to have great vision and shakes off tackles very well.
I don’t expect him to pick up the playbook right away. He is a QB, it takes a little time to learn the plays and terminology.
Thanks for the nod, and the knock on King Redneck Idiot, I believe I could rummage around in my backyard and find 4 rocks that would have an equal IQ. ;-) Add to that, which I believe feeds his 20 feet tall and bulletproof mentality (too stupid to realize he’s fallible), the fact that his coach is hopelessly out of his depth when it comes to being a head coach, and the front office in MN is just amazingly dense (letting Chester Taylor go in FA? Seriously??) about providing a decent offensive line, and I would say that it’s unlikely that the Vikes make the playoffs, much less win their division this season. Worse yet, the team, from top to bottom, has invested all of their hopes this season in ONE player (the aforementioned King Redneck Idiot) that is over the hill, cannot move in the pocket, and will almost certainly not make it through an entire season. Heck, he’ll be lucky to make it through the first GAME.
I really don’t have a beef with most of the Vikes fans, just the idiots like Chrissy Gates, and the jackass at Cooper’s Ale House in Greensboro, NC that wanted to “step outside and settle this” after the NFCCG. Really? :rolls eyes: (First, it’s a FOOTBALL GAME, get over it; second, dude needed to take off his beer goggles, I’m 6’2" 250, he was all of 5’6" 150…I just stood up and smiled, then sat back down). I just call it like I see it, if you don’t dig it, well, don’t read/listen to me!
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 2, 2010 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m 6’2" 250, he was all of 5’6" 150
I was about to say something about what I have done, but I am 5’ 9". My best friend when I was in the Navy is 5’ 6" and I’ve seen him knock out 6 Marines by himself in a bar fight in Cologne, Panama. The Marines started taunting us and as I was standing up, he motioned me to back off and said, “I got this.” I just sat back and drank my beer, I knew he had it because I sparred with him every day. But we weren’t the best in our unit, the XO was, now there was a man you would storm the gates of hell for because you knew he would get you back out.
So be careful who you pick a fight with.
PS: You must be a Yankee from north of I-10 if you can find rocks in your backyard.
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
Good one!
PS: You must be a Yankee from north of I-10 if you can find rocks in your backyard.
Bwaa ha ha! Love that!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
the front office in MN is just amazingly dense (letting Chester Taylor go in FA? Seriously??)
I think there is probably universal regret in Vikingland that Chester is no longer on the team, both among fans and the FO. But you seem to think this is some kind of goof, it wouldn’t have happened if the FO had not allowed it. So, let me ask you two questions, since you are so much smarter about these things than us all:
1. Chester stated publicly he wanted to go to a place that he would be on the field more, hinting that he wanted the chance to be a number 1 back. Tell me, are we all dense for not saying “yeah, we’ll promise you that will start using this other Peterson guy less” ?
2. Putting #1 aside for a monent, the Bears are paying Chester $7m guaranteed this year. I take it the Vikings were dumb not to outbid that. Please tell me, what other NFL team is (willingly) paying their #2 running back $7m this year. Are they all dumb too? Is your team doing it? No? Are you calling the Saints front office dumb?
p.s.
Worse yet, the team, from top to bottom, has invested all of their hopes this season in ONE player (the aforementioned King Redneck Idiot) that is over the hill, cannot move in the pocket, and will almost certainly not make it through an entire season. Heck, he’ll be lucky to make it through the first GAME.
Wow, yes, those Vikings really are dense. Why on earth would anyone have reason to believe Brett Favre would be able to keep starting games?
God I wish we could be even a small bit as smart as you.
How do you feel about Sharper? Do you think if he stayed at Min would Min have won HFA? I figure Sharper won Us an extra game or two, but if we wouldn’t had him maybe we wouldn’t had HFA.
you know, when you want something, and nobody can stop you from taking it, you just take it, right? I like that, but can you take it?
Sharper was not right for our scheme.
He was getting older, slower and more unhappy with his position on our team. Nothing against him personally, just that he didn’t have the speed required to play that position for us.
With the Saints, he was home. He was able to play FS like he liked to, basically roaming center field and playing the ball, rather than having to work more in run support. You guys put up enough points so that he didn’t have to play tight, he could go for the pick which is what he LOVES.
Please tell me, what other NFL team is (willingly) paying their #2 running back $7m this year. Are they all dumb too? Is your team doing it? No?
Nope, we’re paying him $8M
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
Really now?
Who is this #2 running back? Reggie Bush?
If you are really considering Reggie as your #2, then you are crazy.
Regardless, you are not paying any other RB on your team more than 1.3 million this year, so if Reggie really is your #2 you can afford to spend 7.089 million on him because he is a dual threat and not really your #2. He is more of a 1a or 1b kinda guy.
Reggie is technically our #2 guy. PT is our #1
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
OK, riddle me this...
…isn’t keeping your franchise QB on his feet and healthy worth about 7m/yr????
In the end, his production at RB is only part of the equation, and I stick by my statement: letting Taylor go was a BAD move, at any price. Why, because they didn’t replace the number that cannot be counted – blitz pickups.
Comparing Taylor to Bush IS valid, both are threats running, catching the ball out of the backfield, and both are fairly reliable at blitz pickups, Bush is better at the first two, Taylor at the last one, but they’re similar in their respective values to a team, IMO.
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 4, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
…isn’t keeping your franchise QB on his feet and healthy worth about 7m/yr????
Yes, to me it is.
But I am not Childress.
Childress does not use “Logic” or “Intellect” when it comes to football.
Speaking of protecting the QB, last year Julius Peppers made Bryant McKinnie look like a matador. Which is pretty standard for Julius Peppers.
Instead of taking arguably the best blocking TE in the game and giving Big Mac some help, or keeping a RB back to block on every play, he simply BENCHED McKinnie and put one of our backups out there, who then proceeded to get beat even worse.
Taylor was not someone I wanted to let go of, especially to a divisional opponent. That move was monumentally stupid.
Never said the comparison wasn’t valid, just that calling Reggie Bush your #2 back is not something I would do. I think Reggie would even take offense to it.
Agreed.
However, I never would have referred to Bush as a #2 back, as others have stated, he’s a 1b back, with the additional benefit of being essentially a WR in the tailback spot.
:)
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 4, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I am glad I am not the only one who sees it that way.
I have said from the get-go, Childress should be up in the booth during gameday.
He fancies himself the next Belicheck, and is willing to go to great lengths to prove it. Every time he tries, he shows his idiocy.
My key example of his stupidity:
There was a Broncos game in ’07 or ’08, not sure exactly, but we were down by two scores with about 6 minutes remaining. Childress burns all of our time outs in pointless manner and we get the ball back with about 2:40 on the clock.
We go three and out basically, running the clock down to the 2 minute warning and it is 4th and 18 on our own 28. Rather than go for it, he punted.
Safe play? Maybe. The other team got the ball, and promptly took three knees to end the game.
When asked about it in the postgame presser, he said “based on the way we were playing defense, I thought we’d get the ball back”.
Seriously… What did he think we would be able to do? Trick the opposing team into throwing the ball?
The ONLY reason Chilly is still here is Brett Favre. Had Brett rode off into the sunset, we would have gotten rid of Chilly last offseason.
I am so disappointed they let Tomlin get away, at least he has the respect of his team.
His nickname is actually
Leprechaun and he’s hiding his pot of gold in TJ’s butt cheeks.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
But we played different teams, different divisions, different schedule.
This is true. We played a MUCH harder one than you did.
We faced the AFC East and the NFC East. Not by any means the only divisions with good teams, but two divisions that are significantly more of a challenge than many others.
You faced the AFC North, which was tough, and the NFC East, which should not have been. Yet you still managed to lose to the Cards and came WAY too close to losing to the 49ers.
As for the head-to-head competition, in raw yardage alone, yeah, you outperformed us. You had ~475 to our ~265, a lead of 210 yards. But you forget that we had a TON of extra yards on special teams. You had only 47 yards there, we had 180, a lead of ~130. Those yards DO count. Nobody knows what would have happened if we hadn’t had them, maybe some of them show up in our offensive total, maybe we don’t score as much. We don’t know. But if you are looking at raw yards alone, then you have to count them. And so now the difference is a mere 80 yards. Now add in the fact that our punter and kickoff teams were better as well, and the advantage swings even further to our side. We had ~355 yards in punting, and only two of our kickoffs were returnable at all. You had only ~155 yards in punting, and ALL six of your kickoffs were returned. You didn’t manage a single touchback. If those yards mean anything, then we now lead you by 120 yards.
Yards alone mean jack squat. What matters is whether you can score more points than your opponent. What matters is whether you can hold onto the ball when somebody else is trying to strip you. What matters is whether you can avoid throwing INTs at the worst possible moment. What matters is whether you can avoid idiotic 12-men-in-the-huddle penalties. You didn’t, and we did. Simple as that.
. Yet you still managed to lose to the Cards and came WAY too close to losing to the 49ers.
Yea, cause Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald vs our depleted secondary was not a tough battle or anything. Not to mention Rodgers-Cromartie and Antrel Rolle. They were a bad matchup for us, good WRs and Good secondary vs bad secondary and good WRs.
The niner’s game was too close.
It seems to me like you are replying to my first post, rather than my second. All the points you are making here are the same points I made in my second comment.
That the only real way to compare teams is head to head, your team won the turnover battle while our OFFENSE and DEFENSE (which is different from special teams) thoroughly handled your team.
It doesn’t matter that our team gained more yards on offense and held you to much less yards on defense because you won the game.
So long as we have Major Dad as a HC, we are doomed.
Your team came out on top, not only because they played well but because we have an idiot for a head coach.
Your team came out on top, not only because they played well but because we have an idiot for a head coach.
If we could get both sides to agree to this statement, we might be able to heal the rift.
It was worth the wait.
by MtnExile on Sep 2, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have said this ad nauseum
Special teams for us contributed something close to 200 yards. When you factor in that, i think the yard differential was about 30 yards in the Vikings favor. We had shortened fields due to turnovers. Routed the Vikes special teams. And put up pedestrian offensive numbers as a result.
If you consider these comments in their entirety and really take them into consideration in evaluating who was the better team: we outperformed the Vikings on special teams, forced several defensive turnovers, still racked up considerable yards on offense, and most importantly inevitably won the game. That is a total team effort. And therefore could be considered as a more complete team.
I am not going to claim whose team was better. Both teams produced in the way that their team needed to. The end result, a nail biter of a game. One team had to win. I am glad it was ours.
Now that being said. A week today is a new season. Best of luck to you guys for a good season. If a Superbowl is in your future then i will be one of the first to go over and congratulate you. It’s a hell of a ride.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
Both teams played well enough to win...
Too bad Childress is an idiot.
The 12th man penalty was boneheaded, and putting Favre in a position where he could throw the ball across his body was equally boneheaded.
My only hope is we can fire Chilly before he runs what talent we have left into the ground.
I would agree
Truer words were never spoken.
My only hope is we can fire Chilly before he runs what talent we have left into the ground.
You never want to see a marquee player retire without a championship. It is what i foresee for Steven Jackson. He can’t last at his pace much longer. You guys have all the pieces. Just need Chilly to focus and get it done.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
When we’re finished with Sarge, we can start on Mile High Retort. I’m banned there as well and I didn’t even post a photo.
Take the simple case of the sarge who can't go back to war
'Cause the hippies tore down everything that he was fighting for.
snork!
Mile High Retort
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
stujo4
How do you get around this site so fast Anyways M-E is allways on a roll. By the way what happend with the farve on tour post did anyone put it on vinyl yet
Stu's like Tiffany the Trophy
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 1, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
This 'situation' will be resolved in 8 days
The Vikes will get a beatdown that will leave no doubt this time around. Chris Gates will pretend he’s never heard of the Saints and will go back to riding Farvruhs jock and lashing out at Packer fans.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 1, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions
Bottom Line
If the Viking fans want to be mad at anyone – it should be their own team for it’s poor performance in an NFCCG.
Their team’s play kept us in the game and gave us the chance to win. We wanted it more.
Just because the monkey's off your back doesn't mean the circus left town - G. Carlin
I can't wait until Week 2 of the regular season
I’m so over the Vikings.
"I want the gas pedal down." Sean Payton
by SaintsChick on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Done with this nonsense. So the teams have a rivalry now because of the NFCCG. I can enjoy that. But the ridiculous sniping between SBN blog users is pretty irritating. Ignoring these threads until post Sept. 9th when we get even more whining Vikings talking about how unfair it was that we beat their asses again.
If I am good I could add years to my life / I would rather add some life to my years.
I always thought we had a rivalry after we lost our first playoff game to Vikings. Hell i’ve hated them ever since! Ya 44-10 set the hatred in motion.
you know, when you want something, and nobody can stop you from taking it, you just take it, right? I like that, but can you take it?
and they spanked us good in 2000 after our first playoff win
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
So then why are you posting to (and obviously reading) a FP with the title “Vikings vs. Saints. Fans.”
lol lol lol
Good point
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
So those of you at the home opener....
Can you do me a favor and take a picture of the Superbowl Champ flag being raised and post it on the DN after the game????
I am getting hungry
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I am going to start a flame war with this but…. I happen to like cheeseburgers…. with provolone
provolone?
You communist bastage!
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
Pepper Jack w/Bacon for me please...
…add some red onion, sauteed mushrooms, and jalapenos as well.
Yes, I am a philistine.
However M-E witnessed me eating just such a crime against the hamburger, and did nothing, so he is just as guilty as I.
…must have been the Guinness…
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 3, 2010 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Either way works...
…and yeah, I ALWAYS recommend the Guinness – but only if it’s on tap, right M-E?
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 4, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
never thought i would look forward to talking to falcon fans
But they are a walk in the park compared to vike fans
It helps that they are from georgia and they cant read and write to well there
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 7:02 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
nbesides everytime one of them says something i dont like
I can respond with " a dirty bird cant fly with a broken wing"
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Stop coming to the site and reading/posting then, if we’re all so insufferable. I just clicked on your userid and and DN is the site you’re second most active on, you’ve posted more there than at #3, #4, #5 and #6 in that list combined.
wow you took that out of context
I was commenting that falcon fans were easier to bull rush over
thats why i said they are from georgia and cant read and write so well
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
So Georgians can’t read and write, but Minnesotans(again, is that right?) can’t do math.
Comments on DN: 279
Comments on Stampede Blue: 113
Comments on Revenge of the Birds: 96
Comments on Blogging the Boys: 57
Comments on Pats Pulpi: 55
Total(w/o DN): 311
311>279
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
*321
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley
I think i'm missing something here
I take a shot at the falcon fans and i’m bombarded with ramblings from other people
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
if you and puddin head would like to explain your comments i'm all ears
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry northfan i just reread what you wrote
not a shot at me just northern math lol
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
This is your “shot at falcons fans”:
never thought i would look forward to talking to falcon fans
But they are a walk in the park compared to vike fans
Do I really need to explain how this is a bigger slam on vike fans than falcons’? You do understand the meaning of your own words i hope
they are a walk in the park to slam
they dont take everything serious and we can mess with them with out 7 mos of bad blood.
I enjoy the vikings site but i cant make jokes over there or the whole board will think i’m bad mouthing their team just like your doing right now.
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
HEY!
I take wait what did you say let me read that again. Oh you said BLOOD! I have blood! My Mom has blood! Wait let me read it again real quick. Mouthing?! What’s up with the mouthing! What are you mouthing? Ok that’s it I’m taking my ball and going home!
that is a lot of s’s in your name brother.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
well i wanted to use the name grimey but it was taken
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 3, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't those the inmate's gay cheerleaders in "The Longest Yard"?
"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG
Darren Sharper is not your mother
how would you know that? Lol!
I think it does get out of hand sometimes. I am still learning how to deal with people who get downright ugly about it. At the end of the day it’s really just football but sometimes emotions get the best of us. When you really care about something it’s easy to get pissed off but not usually worth the time or effort. One friend I have, who I love dearly, becomes a total dick during the season. I actually had to remove him from my facebook until after the superbowl because his comments were so out of line.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
plus hate to say it but the internet is not where people show their best face.
Many people don’t understand that just because people can’t point a finger at you directly doesn’t mean you get to be a douche.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
I am anxious to see...
how the five questions with DN goes this week. Should be interesting to see our moderators chatting it up a bit…
by BlackandGold4ever on Sep 3, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
blah blah blah
the Saints fans have not been upset about the way things turned out….THE VIQUEENS HAVE! It is disegenous to call us out when the ViQueens have been the worst bunch of losers it the years I have watched football. Had we been anywhere in their league we would still be pissin and moaning about the Bears beating us back a few years ago….paleese do not lecture us on how we handle the iditos from yankme land being such poor sports….what in the world are you thinking?
unrec’d it…do you need some pampers to go along with this post?
Gris Gris Man, Voodoo Surgeon General and Master of Witch Doctory
I think I am going to put a spell on you!
No amount of viagra or extends or whatever makes that guy smile will ever help you, if you ever had some go find ‘em, cause someone ran off with your gonads….what a girlie man you seem to be…….I know I have been in the Makers Mark but still…..what a puss in boots! Dave please feel free to delete this post if you must but it’s just how I feel!
Gris Gris Man, Voodoo Surgeon General and Master of Witch Doctory
by Gris Gris Man on Sep 3, 2010 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
(There. So much for the gentlemen audience you were trying to reach.)
Announcer: “My God! That’s the toughest quarterback sack I’ve ever seen!”
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Sep 4, 2010 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
Actually...
…the photo of the Black Knight would represent the Vikes “offensive line”….
“None shall pass”
:-)
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 4, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Watch out for that Newt girl..
….she likes to turn on the grail-shaped beacon on top of the castle, to lure in unsuspecting knights on a holy quest…
Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!
by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 5, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I for one
will be happy when this little beef is over, hopefully after next week. Then again when the Vikings lose they will just come up with something else to complain about.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
I would like to thank the Saints for the greatest
football game I have ever witnessed. Yes the Saints were dirty but so is the entire NFL. Anybody see what Suh did to Delhomme? That was 10 times worse than what any Saints player did to Favre. Yes the Saints broke some rules but so does every other team. (Even my beloved Vkings, see Rice OPI to break up a int) If No team ever broke the rules there’d be no need for refs. So how about we all remember that game for what it was, the greatest game that I ever had the pleasure of watching anf im sure others agree. We have a game in 4 days, so lets get ready for that ok :)
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Sep 5, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec’d. Looking forward to Thursday. Hopefully we can make do without Sharper and McCray. At least your team won’t know who to go after since they’re both gone
"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley

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