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Vikings running back Adrian Peterson guaranteed victory for his team before their rematch against the Saints last night in the Superdome, obviously expecting different results. This game had quite a different feel from last years NFC Championship Game but the end result was inevitably the same: Victory for the Saints. That's what's important.

Saints fans should be pleased with the way their teams defense played. As time expired and the offense lined up in victory formation, Gregg Williams was getting lots of hugs and congratulations on the sidelines. And it also appears we have a reliable running game to applaud. One concern of mine going into the season was the Saints ability to run the ball late in the game when they've got the lead. My fears were laid to rest last night as the Saints offense ate up the final five-and-a-half minutes of the game. It may not have been the prettiest win, it may not  have been the most exciting but they were able to do what they needed to do.

Let's just get into my detailed, first-hand observations after the jump, shall we? 

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  • This is something only fans who have attended a game at the Superdome in person would appreciate but there is nothing like the feeling of the cool air conditioning blowing out through the doors as you wait outside in the crowd and the heat to get inside.
  • There were a surprising amount of Vikings fans in attire and in attendance. 
  • Like other choreographed moments in recent Superdome history (Deuce McAllister return in 2009 playoffs), the championship banner dropping was slightly anti-climactic and could have been made a bigger deal. Before the game, it was hidden behind a Verizon banner (don't get me started on that) and revealed with no warning while a Lombardi Trophy-adorned float carrying the Benson family and a singing Harry Connick  rolled down the field. I thought for sure there would be some sort of speech accompanied with a formal introduction of the banner. Maybe this is all part of a plan? Perhaps the Saints have made a conscious decision not to let it all go to their heads and have chosen not to unnecessarily glorify themselves.
  • A couple of fans jumped the gun on Drew's Who Dat chant signal. 
  • The Saints offense came out with guns blazing, scoring at will in just five plays on their first drive. Everyone  in the building was riding high and I think a friendly text message to my phone at the time said it best..."It's like 2009 never ended."
  • That first Morstead kick out of the end zone was ridiculous. 
  • Who was that guy kicking field goals for the Saints last night because he certainly didn't look like the same kid who had ice water in his veins during last years playoffs, including overtime in the NFC Championship Game. Just as Ralph asked on our post-game podcast: Is it time to start getting concerned? 
  • Heath Evans had a quiet game from a statistics standpoint but did a great job away from the ball with some superb blocking. It's nice to have him back in the mix. 
  • I think it's fairly obvious that in it's most basic form, the Saints game plan included passing the ball a lot in the first half, loosening up the Vikings defense, then switching it up by running the ball a lot in the second. It worked so I'd say that was a nice piece of coaching on Sean Payton's part. 
  • The halftime entertainment was actually a short ceremony honoring Rickey Jackson and awarding him his NFL Hall of Fame ring. 
  • The dropped passes by Saints wide receivers last night was maddening. Devery Henderson, Robert Meachem and even Lance Moore all failed to come through at key moments. I guess the good news is that the Saints still managed to come away with a win even without being able to count on some of their most trustworthy playmakers. 
  • Brett Favre looked rusty. I guess that's what happens when you miss most of your teams off-season training activities. 
  • Even when the Saints were losing, never did it feel like the game was out of their grasp and never did it seem like fans were getting nervous that the Saints wouldn't inevitably pull it out. Personally, I've got a higher level of trust in this team that is completely opposite of past feelings. I like it.  
  • It looked like the Saints defense would line up in the 3-4 on Vikings first downs, with Hargrove, Ellis and Smith on the line while Dunbar and Mitchell joined Vilma and Shanle at linebacker. Just more diverse play calling from defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
  • The unsung hero of last night's game could very well have been Jermon Bushrod. Vikings defensive end Jared Allen was a non-factor on the night. 
  • One thing is for sure: Vikings fans can't accuse the Saints defense of hitting Favre too hard or too often. The Saints barely got a whiff of  him compared to the NFCCG, save for Sedrick Ellis and Roman Harper
  • While we're on the subject, I honestly haven't seen much this entire season from Alex Brown thus far. Not that the bar has been set incredibly high by Charles Grant before him, but are the Saints that much better off? Maybe just in their wallet. 
  • If Vilma was hampered by his groin injury, I didn't notice. He looked fine and obviously had the interception. We can all take a deep breath about that. 
  • I've got to give credit to Malcolm Jenkins at this point. He's been pretty good filling in for Darren Sharper thus far this season. He may not be running back interceptions for six points but he's also not embarrassing himself out there and pissing off fans. High five for that. He impressed me with his one near interception. 
  • Interestingly enough, Roman Harper was part of the offensive victory formation at the end of the game. 
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Who was the Saints player of the game?
Drew Brees
27 votes
Pierre Thomas
143 votes
Jonathan Vilma
99 votes
Marques Colston
2 votes
Roman Harper
58 votes
Jermon Bushrod
104 votes

433 votes | Poll has closed

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Last tallied on 09/08.

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AGREED but only if you include Jahri Evans!

The O-Line dominated the Vikings D-Line all night! Shot out to the secondary as well.

by Saint for life on Sep 10, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heath Evans

I agree – it’s great to have him back.

I too was wondering why Roman Harper was part of the victory formation at the end. I guess it was because of his tackling ability in case of a bobbled snap where the Vikes D tries to run it back and win.

I agree with Jeff that Carl Nicks should be in the poll too. He was manhandling Pat Williams all night. Dude was a beast.

I’m anxious to read this week how Hartley is fixing whatever caused him to horribly miss those kicks last night. He reminded me of Mare and Grammatica, and that’s not a good thing.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 10, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Pat Williams is from Louisiana

That means he’s scum, as far as Chris Gates is concerned. And Gates probably believes he was taking dives all game long. It’s a conspiracy. The Vikings are still the best team. Mommy! MOMMY!

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 10, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its is a conspiracy...

The league and its officals hates the vikings. The NFL loves the saints they want us to win….Blah Blah But the biggest conspiracy of all is how all the revenge and superority talk somehow has turned into a moral victaories of sorts?!? We held down the world champs to 14 points…Blah Blah…..

by blackandgoldbuddha on Sep 10, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iffin it was a conspiracy

wouldn't they be in L.A. by now?

you know, when you want something, and nobody can stop you from taking it, you just take it, right? I like that, but can you take it?

by shn_hldn on Sep 10, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was me I did have a buzz last night but

Did it seem like there were more than a few low snaps last night? And I think Harper was part of the victory formation Incase of a bad snap or he is just that cool

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Sep 10, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not uncommon for a safety to be in the victory formation

If you noticed, he was about 20-25 yards off the line of scrimmage. This is in case of a bobbled snap that gets picked up by the opposing team. Its good to have a safety back there since he is the safety in the victory formation as well. Somebody who is used to making tackles in the open field as opposed to a receiver or running back.

Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!

by mknkachow on Sep 10, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Harper was getting that game ball; props for a job well done when asked to step up on Shank.

Can’t help but notice that the running game (at least in the second half when we finally remembered we had one) looked improved with Evans back. Really pleased that he’s there, as is Pierre Thomas, I reckon.

by Jimbo03 on Sep 10, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Aree 100%

Harper stepped up and shut Shianco down in the 2nd half
This is a big + since it seems that TE’s seem to always have big game’s against us and Shianco was continueing that theme in the first half

World Champions at last

by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

oops clicked to quick

I didnt like the first half play calling
I’m thinking the thought of a banged up viking secondary and how well we did in the first drive kind of leaned his thinking to the pass after all we only ran 3 times in the 1st half I dont think we will see that again

World Champions at last

by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 10, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Saints MVP of the game should be......

Childress.

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Anyone else thinking

that unless the Vikes go to the SB, Leslie Frazier is their head coach next year (assuming they can’t land someone like Cower, etc.)?

by Jimbo03 on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see that.

Fraizer was a great defensive coach during the NFCCG, and must do a pretty good job. Don’t know if it was him or just the tired defense that was the reason we started doing so well in the 2nd half running, but Childress should be worried.

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Carl Nicks became a giant among hobbits

That plus Payton’s change of play calls is why the run game picked up in the 2nd half. Either Pat Williams has really lost a step at age 36 or Nicks has really improved his game. Not sure which. Nicks deserves at least half of the credit for that Flying Frenchman TD.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 10, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably a degree of both.

Plus as everyone says, Nicks + Jahri = Win

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe if they don’t make the playoffs at all. But even then, only maybe. I mean, the guy just signed a pretty rich extension. They won’t want to fire him unless they absolutely have to.

by FriarBob on Sep 10, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dave

They did do the Whodat chant? It wasn’t televised and it pissed me off.

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn f-in NBC

(grumbles)

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

i can testify to the fact that the who dat chant was extremely loud

and very awesome, some people did forget that were doing three of them though.

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 10, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounded like it on that clip

Thats gotta be intimidating!!

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 10, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was

I was sitting behind the Vikings bench. They just looked at each other with an ‘oh s***’ expression

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 11, 2010 9:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha

Awesome!

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 14, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harper on TE

I’m wondering if we can afford to keep Harper on TE’s if our opponent actually has 3 good WRs. I think PRob could help us out come middle of the season. I’m loving the versatility we are seeming to grow in our defense.

by asaint on Sep 10, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

My take: the day after

I’m quick to react because I’m passionate, but I’m usually back to a cooler head the following day.

Offense: I did not like the play calling in the first half. Only three run plays were called in the first half. The second half featured a more balanced attack. The offense still only managed two touchdowns. What does this mean? Unless we see what the Vikings defense does for the rest of the season, for now, it doesn’t mean anything. What is of a concern are two critical dropped passes that prematurely ended drives. The Moore drop probably was a completion, but Payton decided not to challenge it. Meachem’s drop in the end zone was more severe because that was an easy touchdown. There were other dropped passes, but these two stood out. A few less dropped passes and this game isn’t even close. You know they’re capable, but let’s hope this isn’t a bad omen.

Defense: They were absolutely solid in the second half. The first half issues were the result of poor offensive series and the need for adjustments. Silly penalties did not help either. But they held the Vikings to only nine points.

Special Teams: I don’t have many complaints outside of the field goal kicking. The blocked PAT was a solid play. Hartley’s misses appear to be a mechanics issue. We’ve also seen what he is capable of doing after one bad game. It’s a bit too soon to hit the panic button on Hartley right now.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
Free BLou

by Ace Venom on Sep 10, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

The playcalling in the first half was directly related to the playcalling in the 2nd.

We were testing their secondary, and trying to tire them out, you saw that in the 2nd half. We gotta have more faith in Payton, except when he throws the challenge flag.

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only three run plays were called in the first half

Do we know what plays were called before Brees audibled out of em?

you know, when you want something, and nobody can stop you from taking it, you just take it, right? I like that, but can you take it?

by shn_hldn on Sep 10, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The player of the game is not on your list

Evans and Nicks should be co-mvp. The way they pushed the Williams wall all over the field made the difference in the game.

"Why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56 yard field goal! This is not Detroit man, this is the Superbowl!" -- Paul Allen's call after Tracy Porter intercepted Brett Favre in NFCCG

by DrWhoDat on Sep 10, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Tough choice for player of the game...but

I could look at that World Championship banner all day long.

by CajunCavern on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

BTW I voted for P. Thomas

which was a kneejerk reaction to the running game of the second half. Impressed with the turnaround and the much needed 1st downs to wrap up the game and run the clock out. O-line, thumbs up, too.

by CajunCavern on Sep 10, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

also noticed that all the banners were new

absent were the banners for jackson, finks, dave dixon, archie, pistol, etc.

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 10, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

They were all up on the opposite end of the Dome.

Just as sure as you're born
Look out pretty mama, I'm on the road again.

by stujo4 on Sep 10, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

the tulane ones were, but the others werent

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 10, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Were P-Rob and AA in the game last night?

by cscmember on Sep 10, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Never saw P-Rob in the game either. But then again, was never a need. They never had more than a 3 wideout set and that was covered with Gay.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 10, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think P-Rob played on special teams. Like Lito.

Just as sure as you're born
Look out pretty mama, I'm on the road again.

by stujo4 on Sep 10, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lito made one good play and almost made a pick. He tried to redeem himself…but in Lito fashion ultimately failed.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 10, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you click tp picture at the top to see more

It brings up pics from the SB and from preseason. None from last nights game

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Sep 10, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

The AP pic sorter kinda sucks.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 10, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

the who dat say piece

has some game photo galleries links

and both the nfl.com and espn.com gamecenter/game recap links contain game photos

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Sep 10, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alex Brown

Was absolutely destroying the Vikings’ right side. He submarined a number of running plays — I was very impressed in that regard.

by Billy Gomila on Sep 10, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

he also would have had a sack that he didn't get due to a hands to the face.

the saints also had a penalty on the play though, so they offset. i was impressed by brown.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league, Drew Brees.''
-- Sean Payton

by DeuceisLoose926 on Sep 10, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

does anybody else think that hartley owes the entire def and pierre a very nice meal?

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 10, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

i think they owe Hartley a very nice meal

He was clutch in the playoffs so he gets a good bit of wriggle room for the first game. After that he starts buying lunch

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Sep 11, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sooo Dave says Alex Brown

was nonexistent and another blogger said he was destroying the right side. Which is it?
 I forgot to tape the game being so caught in the moment so I cant go back and watch the game again…
So how did Brown and Wilkerson fare? We need production from the right side this year.

by blackandgoldbuddha on Sep 10, 2010 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

This is all good

but where are the game pictures, Dave?

"Bow Down Before The One You Serve"

by MobileSaint on Sep 10, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Dave & jon08ban

I see where you guys said Payton was only testing their secondary in the first half.

Is this probably something only years of football experience would tell you? How would someone inexperienced with football know it was “part of the plan” (besides the fact that Payton is one smart mutha) and not just bad playcalling/making adjustments at half time? Did he want to make it seem like that wasn’t what he was doing or is it something Childress would pick up on right away?

Sorry to bother you, just want to understand this! I had no idea, obviously, and it seems like several people here did not realize it either.

Breesus Is My Homeboy

by SarahT on Sep 10, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

No, it’s actually something coaches do all the time and every game. Payton is just the best at adjustments/playcalling (except with endarounds and reverses). Most coaches script the entire first drive, and will script up until about the first or second score then start to do some quick adjustments. For instance, they may put 4 WR’s on the field and run it, and Payton will see what the defense does, and how they react what type of defense they come out in, etc. Plus, the Viking’s secondary is depleted thanks to injuries, and the Saints wanted to test and see how depleted they were. On the first drive, it sucked. Because of this Payton most likely called more passing plays than running plays to attack the secondary.

If you want to know if it was just bad playcalling, look at the Vikings, getting tons of success running the ball…and they start to pass more. THAT is bad playcalling, Payton was testing the waters for the real game in the 2nd half. Of course this is just my opinion, Payton very well have been calling sh—y plays, or as shn_hldn mentioned earlier, we also don’t know how many running plays Payton called that Brees changed at the LOS to a pass. Hopefully it was just Payton doing some tests.

Week 2 matchup: 49ers
Week 2 motto: Run the ball

by Jon Banks on Sep 10, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome thanks!

Man this ish is so technique, I am going to be 80 before I have some real understanding of it. Everyday I learn more though, so that is good.

Breesus Is My Homeboy

by SarahT on Sep 11, 2010 3:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that Harper was in the backfield because he's our best tackler

and if that snap should go crazy wrong, he’s there to take the guy with the ball out before he scores. I like all the points. They didn’t show the Who Dat chant led by Brees on TV. I was kinda pissed about that. I was doing my own chant to make me feel better. I think the play calling was crap. We didn’t get great success through the air really in the first half. There was just the opening drive that succeeded. I wouldve liked a much more balanced gameplan throughout the game. I understand we pass to set up the run but to have only 3 running plays in the first half period isn’t a good idea. I think it showed up in the scoreboard too. Only 7 points. In the 2nd half I liked the playcalling on the first drive and I understand it after that(mostly running) because you’re trying to run out the clock. I think a more balanced attack wouldve helped us alot. Also, I think he worked PT too much in the 2nd half. Yeah I know he was the hot hand but the thing is, what’re we going to do if PT goes down in week 1? Ivory isn’t going to shoulder the load and if Reggie gets 75% of the carries he’s going to get dinged up too. Ivory didn’t even get into the game either that I saw. I think Payton doesn’t trust him yet to perform in the game against a #1 defense. Just trying to point out that 19 carries is alot for a runner that is used to maybe 10 carries a game last year.

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Sep 11, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Ivory is hurt.

I don’t think we should be too worried about Pierre getting 19 carries in Week 1.

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by Jay Preece on Sep 11, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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