Fleur-de-Links - Sept. 15th: Media Pundits Pile on Reggie Bush
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 15, 2010 4:00 PM CDT
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Many media pundits are unloading on Reggie Bush today. Why are they focusing almost solely on him? It seems to me that the person/people who sought him out, made the offers, and gave him the money/gifts should share an equal spotlight in this. Why is no one bashing Lloyd Lake?
Newsweek did a piece defending Reggie and placing the blame on the NCAA. To voice my personal agreement with the Newsweek stance, I've highlighted a large portion of their piece after the jump. Read their entire article and feel free to agree, disagree, or not care.
There are no links or video for this, but I wanted to share with you an interesting broadcast of "NFL Films: Saintsational" that I stumbled across on ESPN2 while at home during my lunch hour today. I wish I had recorded it. It's a half-hour telling of the 2009 Saints with lots of tiny tidbits of information I didn't know before. Look for a reshowing on one of the ESPN networks in the near future. After the jump, there's a list of things I learned while watching it.
This was news to me:
- Roman Harper was the player assigned to recover the on-side kick in "Ambush." Chris Reis was just supposed to cover him, but the ball bounced Chris's way.
- If not for Jonathan Casillas spearing Hank Basket and reaching into the pile, Reis was probably about to lose the ball. Casillas helped him secure it.
- Chris gave the "Ambush" ball to a trainer and asked him to hold onto it for him. The next day, the trainer told him that the ball was taken by NFL officials for transport directly to the Hall of Fame. Chris says he'll probably never get into Canton but he's happy he was able to donate something that did.
- Both of Sean Payton's parents are deceased. His Naperville high school coach, J.R. Bishop, has become a prominent father figure in his life. He has attended every Saints camp since 2006. He was also there during the playoffs last year.
- Sean Payton played QB at Naperville High School. Coach Bishop describes him as a brilliant student of the game.
- When David "The Baconator" Thomas was called by Bill Belichick and told about being traded to the Saints, he was at the hospital attending to his young son after he sustained an injury to his left eye. Since his wife was already distraught over their boy, he feared having to tell her that they would immediately have to uproot and move to New Orleans.
- Just before Hartley kicked the game-winning FG in the NFCCG, Anthony Hargrove says he told him, "If you miss this kick, I'm gonna cut your nuts out and put 'em in a small jar."
Many of you may already have known these things, but I didn't. I guess I should get off my butt and go buy Coach's and Drew's books.
TWEETS:
iWillSmith Shout out to my homie Reggie, keep ya head up, the fellas support ya 100%. Stay focus an let get a another championship!!!!! Who Dat!!!!!!
JonVilma51 maaaan reggie having to give back the heisman trophy is complete BULL@$*&!!! I dont care what they say, he was... http://fb.me/xudxzI6o
HeathEvans Hey idiot@DanielWaldronJr: @reggie_bush was the best college player of all times! Not deserving?? RU dumb & blind? Lay off the crack pipe!
HeathEvans To all who read my last tweet! Say whatever u want about me but dont mess with FAMILY & @reggie_bush is FAMILY!
drewbrees @LanceMoore16 Get some rest, bro. You have lots of balls to catch this week
drewbrees I am about to go to bed and can't help but smile as I see that my son has slobbered cracker crumbs all over my shirt. Love that lil guy #fb
drewbrees Going to the West Coast for our Monday Night game this week. The question is: How many In N Out burgers will I eat while I'm there? #fb
alexbrown96 People keep saying if the voting happened after the "GAME" VY would have won it... I doubt one game would have swayed the voters that much!
alexbrown96 Reggie didn't just squeak this heisman out he won the second most lopsided heisman voting in history!!!
OGOchoCinco #random i've been selected again for a random drug as i get to work, pissin excellence isn't a problem but they trippin, 3 test n a month
HeathEvans What a gr8 AM! Homework w/Ava & breakfast w/ Naomi! Got2 go wash the cars & then off 2 the juvenile detention center to talk to the kids #fb
LanceMoore16 Good morning everybody. Its time to burn some daylight and get stuff done. Let's all #dowork today!
j_bushrod7475 Heading to childrens hospital for a pep rally!!!! #excited to see some of my friends there!!
LanceMoore16 And before I forget, @reggie_bush nobody can ever take away the fact that u were the best player that year, and ... http://tmi.me/1pJJe
reggie_bush Just finished up my PSA for Muscular Dystrophy and made some new friends! http://plixi.com/p/45277352
T_Porter22 Waiting to head to this school visit w/ @MalcolmJenkins n @usama_young28
MalcolmJenkins Bout to head to JWJ elementary to talk to the kids
usama_young28 Johnson Elementary, we're on the way!!! RT @T_Porter22: Waiting to head to this school visit w/ @MalcolmJenkins n @usama_young28
HeathEvans (VIDEO) Hopefully this will answer your questions about the vote that the Saints players took the other day? http://ht.ly/2ENbL
dmcallister26 Sometimes the best action is none at all
Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/i3n1qxj - Uploaded by jgoody76Check out Jonathon Goodwin's damaged pinky. YIKES! He says, "Believe it or not this is one of the most painful injuries I have ever had."
REGGIE FORFEITS HEISMAN TROPHY:
In Defense of Reggie Bush - Newsweek
First, the obvious arguments: Bush was a vulnerable 18-year-old when agents started flashing gobs of money in his face. He never cheated between the lines, used drugs, or bet on the game. Top college players have always accepted gifts. Since joining the New Orleans Saints, Bush has been something of a role model, giving plenty of money to charity. And he was, without a doubt, the best college football player during the 2005 season; it’s impossible to pretend all those preternatural touchdown runs never happened. But here’s what matters most: Bush has become the fall guy for a Division 1 football system that bankrupts its players while pouring money into the pockets of fat cats in executive suites. Rather than blame Bush, we should blame the system, which is in desperate need of an overhaul. The line between amateur and professional football has never been so hazy, and the concept of the innocent "student athletes" playing for the pride of old Harvard was abandoned decades ago. The game is now a business, and the only people who don’t take a cut are the players. Instead, many of them are manipulated by greedy agents and corrupt coaches.
Reggie, why give it back? - CBSSports.com
Prisco's Points - Reggie, why give it back?
Reggie Bush has cemented his legacy by forfeiting Heisman Trophy - Stewart Mandel - SI.com
In 11 years on this beat, the 2005 season was by far the most memorable I've covered. I'll never forget watching Matt Leinart's 61-yard pass to Dwayne Jarrett from the sideline of Notre Dame Stadium. I'll never forget watching from the press box above the L.A. Coliseum as Reggie Bush ran off 260 yards against UCLA. And of course, I'll never forget watching Vince Young scamper to the end zone literally just a few feet in front of me to clinch the BCS championship.
Reggie Bush finally makes a right move - latimes.com
The writer wrote that he should do it, but never thought he would.
Reggie Bush still can't say the magic word — sorry - latimes.com
Chances are former USC star Reggie Bush is/was not the only Heisman Trophy winner to have taken improper benefits while participating as an amateur athlete in college.
Bush doesn't change a thing with Heisman handoff - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com
What you just witnessed was the final act of the USC tragedy. Reggie Bush returning his Heisman doesn't have any real impact, it was just a show to protect the pretense, Ray Ratto says.
Reggie Bush's gesture doesn't help USC Trojans - ESPN Los Angeles
Despite Bush's gesture, finality on this chapter remains out of reach for USC.
Bush admits 'mistakes,' surrenders Heisman - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN
Former USC running back Reggie Bush is now the first Heisman Trophy winner to surrender the award.
Reggie Bush can't erase taint on Heisman Trophy - CFB News - FOX Sports on MSN
Reggie Bush cant erase taint on Heisman Trophy
Reggie Bush forfeits Heisman - CFB News - FOX Sports on MSN
''It doesn't matter if he gives it back. Everyone still knows Reggie Bush was the best player that year. Look at the runs. He was clearly the best player. O.J. Simpson got accused of a murder and they didn't take his back. That was a far greater allegation, and they didn't find O.J. guilty on that.'' — Johnny Rodgers, 1972 Heisman winner from Nebraska
Reggie Bush will always be 2005 Heisman Trophy winner to many | NOLA.com
Previous winners offer support for RB
Reggie Bush gives before the Heisman Trust can take, and has New Orleans Saints fans to embrace him | NOLA.com
The ones hurt over this are the players who are at USC now
The Heisman Trophy could have gone to Vince Young five years ago | NOLA.com
The performance in the 2006 Rose Bowl was one of the all-time best
New Orleans Saints' Reggie Bush first player to forfeit Heisman Trophy | NOLA.com
Vince Young says he 'definitely' wants award
SAINTS v. 49ers:
New Orleans Saints set up for another season-opening winning streak
Next up is San Francisco. Yes, the 49ers are a lot better at home than on the road. But in Seattle, 49ers quarterback Alex Smith was terrible. At one point, the former top-overall draft pick missed 12 of 21 throws and tossed two interceptions. Even on the road in windy conditions, the Saints have such an advantage at the quarterback position that I don't see a loss to San Francisco.
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A Look Back
The last time the Saints and 49ers met
Week 2 matchup: New Orleans Saints at San Francisco 49ers - NFL - Sporting News
Smash or Grab? The Saints’ high-octane passing game reverted to a traditional smashmouth attack last week against the Vikings. It will be interesting to see whether Sean Payton continues that approach in San Francisco.
Ginn hurt, 49ers re-sign receiver Jason Hill
The 49ers re-signed wide receiver Jason Hill, a San Francisco native they released in training camp. He'll provide depth as Ted Ginn Jr. recovers from a sprained knee. The team released undrafted rookie cornerback...
NFC West: 49ers fail to grab the torch - KansasCity.com
So much for the NFC West being the San Francisco 49ers' to lose.
Communication a growing problem for Niners - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The team's offseason attempt to address issues between the coaches and players hasn't been successful. - National Football League news
WEEK 2 POWER RANKINGS (AS IF THEY TRULY MATTER):
NFP Power Rankings | National Football Post
1. (3) New Orleans Saints: 1-0 The defending champs jump to No.1 in our rankings and get another primetime matchup on Monday night in San Fran.
NFL Power Poll: Texans soar; Colts slide - NFL - Sporting News
1. New Orleans Saints (Last week: 3) They proved they could beat the Vikings with their running game and defense, too.
Cowboys miscues, Lions-Bears controversy highlight NFL Week 1 - Peter King - SI.com
1. New Orleans (1-0). There wasn't a flawless team in Week 1 and I don't think one was close. So the Saints take the top spot because of a very good defensive performance and because we all know Drew Brees is going to play like Drew Brees for the next four months.
NFL Power Rankings - Top 32 NFL Football Teams - FOX Sports on MSN
Saints are no. 1
NFL power rankings: New Orleans Saints remain No. 1 | NOLA.com
The Times-Picayune's weekly rankings
NFL Power Rankings: Forecast so far is mostly cloudy - NFL - CBSSports.com Football
1. Saints - If the defense plays as it did against the Vikings, they just might repeat. That's how impressive that was. You know they won't score 14 points on offense in many games. They're too good.
ProFootballWeekly.com - Week Two power rankings
1. Green Bay Packers: They were who we thought they were ... in the second quarter.
LAGNIAPPE:
ProFootballWeekly.com - MVP Meter: Manning on top
2. Saints QB Drew Brees (No. 2) — The testament of a great player is when observers don't even notice the greatness anymore — it's just taken for granted. Brees is entering that realm. He completed 75 percent of his 36 passes and didn't throw an interception in the Saints' win, and nobody blinks an eye.
NFL reminds clubs of media policy
The NFL sent a memo Wednesday reminding all 32 teams of its equal access and conduct policy toward the media following a TV Azteca reporter's comments that she was uncomfortable in the New York Jets' locker room last weekend.
2theadvocate.com | Saints | Keeping the faith — Baton Rouge, LA
"My mind-set was great," Hartley said. "I was hitting the ball real well in preseason, practice, and warm-ups. I went 0-for-2, but I was fortunate the way the offense and defense played. The offense put some points up and the defense shut the Vikings out (in the second half)."
Saints LT Bushrod not getting too comfortable
Jermon Bushrod doesn't like to use the word "comfortable," at least not when talking about playing left tackle for the New Orleans Saints.
No Saints in cruel football business
As an undrafted free agent out of tiny Wesley College, an NCAA Division III school in Dover, Del., Larry Beavers knew he would have to make a good early impression this summer with the NFL Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints. So when the five-foot-nine, 185-pound speedster ran a kickoff back 97 yards for a touchdown in the Saints' pre-season opener, he was ecstatic. Did he think it was his ticket to stick? "Did I think it? Oh man. I thought it, my agent thought it. My family thought it. We all thought it." Two days later, the Saints cut him. Cruel business this football thing.
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Coach Mike Smith demands improvement across the board | Atlanta Falcons
FLOWERY BRANCH -- The dust has settled after the Pittsburgh loss and I just went back over coach Mike Smith's media briefing. He was calm, cool and
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I didn't know that.
Thanks for sharing that information with us Satch, and once again beautiful post.
"It's about time something good like this happened." Drew Brees
Satch! Great post, as always- Fleur de Excellence
And sweet sassy molassy – what a lunch hour find – I just looked it up on my tv guide onscreen menu, and the next showing is on NFL Network (DirecTV channel 212) this coming Saturday at noon EST.
I have set my DVR to RECORD THIS PROGRAM.
It’s called “Saintsational!” and it’s cool because that used to be Dave Cariello’s screen name.
I can’t wait to watch it.
It's gonna be a great year.
ARG!
I dont get NFL Network and TVguide.com doesnt show any upcoming non-NFL Network listings for it :`[
Thanks for the info.
My DVR is now set to record it also. You guys are the best!
"It's better to burn out than fade away."
by SaintsFan-KS on Sep 15, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Great Post............and I totally agree.
If someone shoved boat loads of money in my face when I was 18, yes lord, I would have taken it in a heart beat. Recruiters and special interest groups should be fined for enticing these young athletes. I am sure they know about the rules but ignored them. They lose nothing out of this except the cheese they put up and I say good for them.
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
There's two ways of thinking about the Bush business
The first is, who was right, who was wrong, and to what degree.
The second is, “Oh my God, Reggie must feel awful. He’s one of us, and we have to let him know that we support him no matter what!”
Reggie, if by some chance you read this blog: we’re with you. You’re a Saint now, and we won’t turn our back on you because of something you did (or didn’t) at USC. You will ALWAYS be a Saint. So hang in there, and take it out on the 49ers…to begin with.
It was worth the wait.
You will ALWAYS be a Saint
Until Saints get tired of this and trade him away or maybe when US gov files tax evasion charges and he ends up in the big house.
you know, when you want something, and nobody can stop you from taking it, you just take it, right? I like that, but can you take it?
Even Delhomme is still a former Saint. Even if Reggie goes to jail, for anything short of murder he’s STILL always a Saint.
Besides which
…Delhomme never helped us to a Super Bowl. Reggie did. And I can’t see the Saints trading him because they get “tired of this,” either.
It was worth the wait.
I found the "Saintsational!" show on NFLNework...
Saturday 11am + 8:30pm, and several other times after that.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Thanks for the heads up, Satch.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
* All times Central Sandard Time...
or is it daylight time now?
Either way it 11am Central timezone.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
In case you missed it at the bottom of the tweets...
there’s a link to a pic posted by Jonathan Goodwin showing his effed-up pinky. He says it’s one of the most painful injuries he’s ever had. I wonder if he’ll show up on the injury report this week. Will this effect his ability to snap the ball? I hope not. We need Drew’s hands to be ever so gently cupped under Goody’s coin purse this Monday.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 15, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
Not as bad as Baldinger's nasty little finger
So who takes over for him if he can’t go this week? Is Tennant the only option? I just realized they cut Leckey.
I doubt it’s a “can’t go” situation. It’s probably more of a “protect it and play through it” situation. But if I’m wrong, yeah Tennant is probably the only option.
Hmm, now that I think about it, when did this happen? I wonder if this caused any of the offensive issues against the Vikings? Tennant was active for Thursday but they may not have felt comfortable putting him in “unexpectedly”.
you think he can snap with that finger?
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 15, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not? The vast majority of the power and control comes from the thumbs, index fingers, and middle fingers. Fourth fingers and pinkies are basically just stabilizers — assuming they touch the ball at all. Unless he uses some snap method I’m completely unfamiliar with (or I’ve got the finger wrong), I can’t see why a busted pinkie would make it “impossible” for him to play.
I’m not making any guarantees either. But I expect him to be fine on snapping. As for blocking, a good brace and/or cast (as necessary) should do the trick just fine. Linemen play with casts on their hands (nearly) all the time.
Update
Just saw on ESPN that the Heisman Committee will not be awarding Reggie’s forfeited trophy to Young or anyone else. They’re gonna leave it unawarded for that year. Props to Vince Young. I liked his comments on it. He says he’s fine with their decision to not award it to him and that, as far as he is concerned, Reggie is the winner of the 2005 Heisman. He says that’s all the past and it’s time to move on.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 15, 2010 6:49 PM CDT reply actions
i read some where I dont remember where
That Vince Young said he wouldn’t except the trophy if they tride to give it to him now
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 15, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
actually…. on ESPN they read a quote that said he doesn’t want it, “but if they send it to my house, I won’t send it back”.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
Classic...
“If you miss this kick, I’m gonna cut your nuts out and put ’em in a small jar.”
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And we all thought Hargrove: Sinner to Saint was all reformed and kumbaya and 12-step ookie pookie
Man’s still got a nasty streak – NICE!
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 15, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Hargrove should hold for kicks
Just before the snap, he could look back at Hartley and grin. “You remember what I told you?”
It was worth the wait.
by MtnExile on Sep 15, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
HAHAHA
Rec’d it!!!! Hartley finishes the season without a miss
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
without a miss or without his balls
Although, IDK if he’d take that chance anymore and mysteriously go on IR
Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!
by skinnykinney on Sep 16, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
HA!
Great idea!
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 15, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte
by Cajun in CA on Sep 16, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Reggie Bush gave up his Heisman
In hopes of replacing it with a Super Bowl MVP Award. Much better imo
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
I watched the Saintsantional show today as well
Great stuff. If I’m not mistaken, Hargrove said that he WOULD have said “if you miss this kick…” but I don’t think he got the chance. After that game, Hartley said that Hargrove was coming over to him as he was prepping for the kick but he waved him away. Read about it here
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Also nice to see all the team support for Reggie
This seems to be a great locker room. Again.
"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010
Dirt off yo' shoulders Reg
It has nothing to do with what you do with this team, and what you can do going forward. Just focus on yourself.
This kind of crap...
Undoubtably happens all over college football. Just because one guy was caught it does NOT mean only one guy is/was doing it. I wonder when Jason Cole and Charles Robinson will start investigating the REST of the NCAA.
Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~Heywood Hale Brown
I was listening to Charles Barkley on the Dan Patrick Show
and he was completely defending Reggie Bush. He also raised a good point and said there is no way ESPN will look at this objectively because ESPN is so deep into a partnership with college football that they will toe the party line for the NCAA and the big conferences. I have to agree there.
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