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New Orleans Saints @ San Francisco 49ers = Epitome of a Trap Game

When the Saints march into San Fran on the national stage, we all think the Saints should bulldoze through the 49ers with the greatest of ease. Yet somehow, someway, I have a very uneasy feeling coming into this game. I can't shake the feeling that this is about as big of a trap game as one exists. I texted Dave about how uneasy this game made me earlier in the week. His reponse? "Me too!" I know some of you are out there rolling your eyes at the old cliche, thinking "here we go again with the classic trap game talk", but I almost never use it. I'm not one of those guys that throws the concept out as a buzz word every time a heavy favorite should be careful overlooking their much weaker opponent. And before you blast me for predicting that the Saints will lose this game, remember that this was my original prediction when the schedule came out which included the Saints finishing 11-5 and atop the NFC South. Make the jump to find out why I feel so uneasy about this game.

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Take a moment to consider where both teams stand.

 - The Saints are the defending Super Bowl champs. They just opened the season in a rematch of the 2009 season NFC Championship game, and they just beat the Vikings again. They're 1-0, and no one expects them to lose this game. For the fifth consecutive game (including the playoff games last year), the Saints will share the national sporting spotlight with no one but their opponent. This time it's Monday Night Football, but it's gotten to the point where the Saints are used to having all eyes on them. Been there, done that. People talk about Drew Brees as if he's the best quarterback in the league. Reggie Bush has been the talk of the country all week with the Heisman ordeal.

 - Then you've got the 49ers. They just got embarrassed 31-6 by a Seattle Seahawks team that most people don't see winning more than six games. Alex Smith, their starting quarterback, looks horrible, and his backup is David Carr. It's not too dissimilar from the quarterback situation LSU is going through. Sure, Jordan Jefferson is terrible, but when you know the alternative in Jarrett Lee only gets worse, what's your motivation of doing anything besides tolerating the continuous spots of horrendous play your quarterback displays? The bright spot for the 9ers was supposed to be their defense, but then they gave up 31 to a pedestrian offense in Seattle playing their first game under a new coaching regime. The 49ers haven't even had a winning season since 2002. 

So sure, it's just another awesome team facing another poor team. But consider these circumstances:

- The game is in San Francisco on the national stage.

- This national stage is ho-hum for the Saints, and unique for the 49ers.

- The Saints' strong points are offense and pass defense.

- The 49ers strong points are running the football and run defense.

- The Saints can't get any higher, and the 49ers can't get much lower.

- The Saints can afford to lose this game, looking ahead to the Atlanta Falcons next week.

- The 49ers can't afford to drop to 0-2.

We've already seen the Saints overlook severely inferior opponents last year. See the Washington Redskins and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm still not sure how we won the Redskins game.

So if I'm the 49ers' coaching staff, here's what I'm preaching: pound Frank Gore, over and over and over and over. If their run to pass ratio isn't 5 to 1, then they've failed their gameplan. The Saints are strongest on offense and weakest stopping the run, which the 49ers coincidentally do best. Turns out running the ball runs the clock and keeps the opposing team off the field too. The 49ers know they're an inferior team. They're not going to get cute and try to catch the Saints off guard with a whacky plan of attack. They are going to run the football. Make no mistake about it. If the 49ers fall into a 14-0 hole, or worse, then they are in huge trouble. If they jump out to an early two score lead, though, they'll be tough to come back on. I believe the 49ers will play this game like it's their last chance all season to let America know they aren't as bad as what they showed last Sunday. Their coach is Mike Singeltary, and there is no way he won't have them prepared. They will play this game, on the national stage, like it's the Super Bowl. Of course the Saints can handle it, but there's just no way they'll have the same intensity coming in. They've played in too many big games over the last 12 months for this Monday Night game to mean half as much.

Final score: 49ers 27 - Saints 24

I hope I'm wrong, but I've just got a feeling... and by the way, other than Carolina in week 17 last year, this is the only other time I've picked the Saints to lose the week of the game.

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Saints will exploit SF secondary and take away their run game.
After the Offense only put up 14 pts last week, I know they are out to prove they are still the best.
Our run defense is better.
I believe by now we should trust that SP is a good coach who knows how to prepare his team for a “trap” game.
Saints 42 49ers 21

by Nez on Sep 18, 2010 6:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I understand the concerns

about how the 49ers have something to prove after last week, and how they can’t afford to start the season 0-2. But the question is are they good enough to prove it against last year’s world champion Saints? I’m sorry, but I don’t see them losing this game. It may start out surprising (remember the Miami game last year?) but we’ll come through in the end.

"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees

by SaintsFanMD on Sep 18, 2010 6:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree
People talk about Drew Brees as if he’s the best quarterback in the league.

What do you mean, “as if”? ;)

Reggie Bush has been the talk of the country all week with the Heisman ordeal

I may be the only one that thinks this, but I think Reggie will not do well this week. Hope I’m wrong…but Pierre isn’t too bad.

The game is in San Francisco on the national stage.

Well, ok, point for you again-fat punk kickers don’t do well in that sodden swamp aka as Candlestick Park.

The 49ers strong points are running the football and run defense.

So this also means they can’t pass, and more importantly, their pass defense sucks. Advantage Saints and their wonderful receiving corps. Not to mention the most accurate QB in the league last year. Oh, and he completed 75% last week. And, Matt Hasselbeck completed 78% of his passes last week. I think this is where most folks start salivating at the thought of Drew getting 700 yds passing or something.

Their coach is Mike Singeltary

Our coach is chopped liver? Really, watch that video posted here of Mike. Great player. Coach, ?

"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis

by BRSaintsFan on Sep 18, 2010 6:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, SF will probably play desperate.

But, the Saints for the last few years have been pretty dominant over SF. I see Brees exploiting a weak secondary, building a big lead, and then, as you said, they will be in trouble.

by brock38 on Sep 18, 2010 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

My (pre-emptive) rebuttal, from a few days ago...

I’d type it all out again, but this is easier: http://www.moosedenied.com/oh-no-its-a-trap/

(Language warning, of course)

(And no offense intended to Andrew or anyone else who’s worried. “Message Board Guy” is a composite “character”… agreeing with MBG on a given point doesn’t mean I think you are MBG. For some reason, I feel like I need to restate that occasionally.)

by Grandmaster Wang on Sep 18, 2010 7:54 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

great article

I really enjoyed that read, you make great points for sure. I hope I’m wrong, it’s just a gut feeling.

by Andrew Juge on Sep 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what, Andrew, Wang?

I like reading both your perspectives on this. You both bring up factors that will come in to play in the game preparation and playing of it, too. We don’t know which will rule out and power the outcome, or possibly even a combination of both that causes either or neither of your “feelings” or “gut senses” to come true in some fashion. For me, I like to read/study all angles and see what happens after that – it doesn’t have to be an either/or in my mind.

I like thinking about Wang’s sense of things, and yours, Andrew. I especially like Wang’s thoughts on wanting the Saints’ wins to lead teams into a death-spiral…Ha!

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Sep 18, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also enjoyed the bit about the 9ers being the Offseason NFC West champs

(I don’t think anyone printed up t-shirts and hats for that “win”)

and that just because everyone thinks they’ll be good doesn’t mean they’re actually going to be good.

It's gonna be a great year.

by Hans Petersen on Sep 18, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems a lot of people forget we were flying in replacements off their couches on Fri. to play Sun.

 And still got it done. It really is absolutely
 amazing that the Saints organization was able to do last year, with what they had in the way of players out with injurys . Mike Mckinsy sp? in what the 11th week of sitting out the 09 season comes in on Fri. starts Sun. McCallister? came in a week before starting. CP and the rest of you guys who know all of this like your own middle name excuse if got the names spelled wrong or what ever. LOL you get my point. Not only is this a great football team, but an organization as capible as any put together in the NFL. IMO MIKE rec’d ya bro!

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 18, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

We didn’t lose to Washington.

Week 2 matchup: 49ers
Week 2 motto: Run the ball

by Jon Banks on Sep 18, 2010 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes we lost to WAS and TB, We were down 2 CB’s, and this is the NFL

Week 2 matchup: 49ers
Week 2 motto: Run the ball

by Jon Banks on Sep 18, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

" I'm still not sure how we won the Redskins game." Above last paragraph.

jon08ban re-read andrew juge post still didn’t see the line u highlighted. Really don’t matter. May have missed it again. It’s late.

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 19, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

No it was the comment I replied to originally.
Cmon

Whats up with the writers for CSC?? It seems like every week they are gripping about the next weeks opponent and there is mass hysteria? Before the Vikes game Dave was on the ledge over injuries to Casillias and Ivory… Last I checked, we won a SB without major contributions from either of those guys. Cmon guys. We are 17-3 over our last 20 games. We are the World Champions, Have the best QB in the NFL, and two of the best offensive and defensive minds in the NFL coaching our units. Lets stop acting like losers and realize that we are one of the best teams in the NFL. Yes we lost to WAS and TB, We were down 2 CB’s, and this is the NFL, every team has talent and you can lose on any given Sunday. Will we win them all. No…. But lets have some confidence in our team… Two Dat!!!!

by Mike Riley322 on Sep 18, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs

This should clear up the misunderstandings :) .

Week 2 matchup: 49ers
Week 2 motto: Run the ball

by Jon Banks on Sep 19, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think everybody is talking about singletary as a master motivator

and they skipped over the part about game planning. his gameplan and playcalling was terrible in the seattle game. they have serious problems. also, many fans seem to think that we are the ones who have to worry, i leave that to drew, vilma, sean, and gdub.

"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough

by DrewBreesManCrush on Sep 18, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

DBMC Agree 100%.

  Niners are not to be taken lightly, or any team for that matter, but this is the healthiest Saints team fielded in memory. With all the opening game hoopla, banner dropping etc out of the way, I expect the nation to see the Saints team that are the Champions and why. GEAUX SAINTS !!

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 18, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

After the Vikings game....

….I think the opposite will be true. Sean and Drew will want to get the offense clicking early. The Niners D is the perfect opponent to get this done. I predict a lot of points by the Saints.

"Don't ever sell your saddle, cause life's a long, long ride."- Randy Travis

by SaintShark on Sep 18, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree with the Saints couldn't be any higher.

I don’t think the Saints came out of the Vikes game feeling like world beaters. Just the opposite.
Think they came away feeling lucky to have the win and knowing they missed a lot of opportunitys on the field. Feel like the Niners with plenty of tallent to upset the Saints have way to much crap going on in the locker room and a less that a stellar QB. Saints 27-10

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 18, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

[rolling eyes]

The trap game was last week, for the 49ers.
They are a classic case of overrated media darling. Sure, they are going to give a better effort this week at home on Monday night, but last time I checked Alex Smith was still thier QB. They are pretenders. Superbowl teams like ours expose pretenders.
We are healthy, have Drew Brees and Sean Payton calling the shots, and have 11 days to prepare. I smell an ass-whoopin’.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 18, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Singletary was a Great Linebacker . . .

. . . who says he’s a great coach? And who says Frank Gore is going to be any more game changing than AP, a superior back, was last week?

It’s the second game of the season; we don’t have any sense of security yet, false or otherwise. The boys are going to give this match every bit of the seriousness it deserves and they won’t be caught off guard. FFS, I’m hearing a lot more talk about this being a trap game than I hear about the Saints steamrolling.

Peter King picked the Niners, everyone; relax.

Pay Pierre.

by DrZin on Sep 18, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Last year Kings picking the Niners would have had my blood boiling.

 Now? Feel comfortable in saying he is an idiot. There are still a lot of long time fans who still can’t truely believe our Saints are really a team, and organization I should add, to be feared. Those fans are waiting for the other shoe to drop. Understandably so, but not me. Peter King ? I would bet you he wouldn’t put $1.00 of his own money on the Niners against the Saints WITH the points. LOL

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 18, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Andrew Juge,
 You make believe Saints fan. Can’t believe you’re putting a losing score on the Saints. You sound like one of those so called make believe expert analyst.
 Yes, It’s very much all true about that they will be at their best at their home, but did you already forget so quickly what we did in 09?
 Saints, by no less than 17.
Oh yea, the Saints will be at their best also because 14 points don’t get it. Starting this Monday, they will resume to their 30 and 40 point games.

by tommy v on Sep 18, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Sorry, Andrew, but I see no trap here.

Yeah, the Niners sucked like spoiled eggs against Seattle, and probably will give a better and more motivated effort against the Saints..but I don’t see any traps here.

First off, Frank Gore is good. Damn good. He isn’t Adrian Petersen, though, and last time I checked, the Saints D mostly contained AP last week.

More importantly, Alex Smith is no Brett Farve..even a Brett Farve missing training camp and Sydney Rice. Other than Davis and Crabtree (their #3 WR/return specialist Ted Ginn that they acquired from Miami is out with a sprained MCL), what other weapons do they have?

Second…a well rested and confident team is going against a team in utter turmoil. I don’t really think that Sean Payton and Drew Brees will allow this team to go into SF with swelled heads. Don’t you think that they don’t remember the second Tampa Bay game??

Third….they’ll stick with the program that got them there: mixing the intermediate pass with PT bruising between the tackles; with an occasional deep ball to Meachem and Henderson and some Reggie Bush in open space. If the receivers actually hang on to the ball unlike last game, it could get ugly real fast for Frisco.

Fourth: Samarai Mike Singletary may be a Hall-of-Fame linebacker, but he’s more like Rusted Mike Ditka as a head coach; inconsistent, unwilling to make adjustments on the fly, and way too passive/aggressive. If Pete Carroll can eat his lunch, how do you think that Payton/GW will do any worse. Plus, they have serious communication issues on the offensive staff.

Yeah, the Saints could underperform, the Niners could play above their heads, and Garrett Hartley yank a couple of FG’s to give SF a chance to pull the upset. And I could win the Lotto tonight, too. The latter looks far more likely to me than the former.

Saints end the drama and take care of business….38-17.

Anthony

by Anthony_JK on Sep 18, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Andrew Juge

 First of all the 09 Redskins had one of the best red zone defenses in the NFL as I recall. Won by a missed field goal if I remember right. Saints gave away the last three games because they could. They were 13-0 going in! The injury list was longer then the list of players the Saints could put on the field. The Saints staff rested their key injured players to have them ready for , get this, the SUPER BOWL ! Relax and enjoy Bro. I understand your jitters but they are a waste of an oppertunity to relish a great Saints team. Teams of this calliber don’t come along very often. Stop believing everything negative you read. For every negative artical about the Saints there are 20 positive. There is a reason for this . They are the real deal. GET ON BOARD and enjoy. It won’t last forever. Nothing ever does. GEAUX SAINTS

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 18, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Amen brother.

"It's about time something good like this happened." Drew Brees

by saints_r_us#9 on Sep 18, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said Mississippi, u are correct!

by tommy v on Sep 18, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

The only trap will be the 0-2 hole the 49ers fall into

Look for an explosion from the Saints offense and Reggie Bush in particular this week. Saints move to 2-0. NFL player agrees with me.

http://tightend.blogspot.com/2010/09/week-2-nfl-winners-losers.html

"Don't Be Afraid to Stand on a Pile of 'No's' for one 'Yes'"

http://tightend.blogspot.com

by curiousg87 on Sep 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I too, like all Saints fans, have a case of the jitters.

But I honestly believe we WILL win this game. Sure San Fran wants to prove that they just had a BAD day last Sunday and aren’t THAT bad of a team, but we also have something to prove as well…that we ARE the best, that we ARE defending champions, and that we CAN put up more than just 14 points in a game. WE are Saints fans, (best fans in the world) stop being so negative. Our Saints love us as much as we love them and they WILL not let us down. GEAUX SAINTS!!!

"It's about time something good like this happened." Drew Brees

by saints_r_us#9 on Sep 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

saints_r_us#9 Thats what I'm talk'n about .

Lets not forget all the haters. Refs giving us the games, dirty play, you name it. Not only did we hear all this crap,so did these Saints! Put yourself in their shoes. We are just the fans. These guys who went out there every week and gave the rest of the NFL a beat down still had to hear all that nonsense. I say this team still has a chip on their shoulder to silence the remaining detractors. This is a great team in a good mood. Damn if I want to bet against them with a score to settle! LOL
 Got’a love Dem Boys. Who Dat !

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 19, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great line from Sterling Sharpe on NLF Playbook:

“If Matt Hasellbeck looked like Drew Brees against the 49’s last week, what in the world is Drew Brees going to look like?”

Somewhere around the fourth or fifth game last year it dawned on me that, without really noticing the exact moment it ocurred, I had shed the Saints “inferiority complex” I had suffered from most of my life. I began to enjoy the feeling that Steeler fans, Cowboy fans and Patriot fans had enjoyed in years past…. a feeling I had been envious of for so long. For the first time in my life, I no longer “hoped” the Saints would win; I “expected” them to win.

There’s a huge difference between confidence and arrogance. The Saints are a confident team right now. I expect them to win.

Like Mississippi said, let’s enjoy this ride while it lasts.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Game..

Its going to be a trap game only if the Saints prepare for it that way. Drew Dat has a great point we are watching our team do things we havent seen them do….EVER! Lets keep this bus rolling!

by Saintsfan4life on Sep 18, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

problem is, the 49ers have a weak pass rush and a subpar secondary

sure, SF can pound the ball all day, but as we have seen many times in the AFC south, even teams who are built to pound the ball and chew clock cant top an explosive offense who can drop 7 on you and not even blink.

in the end, i favor our passing game agaisnt the 49ers pass defense over the 49ers rushing attack agaisnt our rush defense. as it currently stands in the NFL, a top passing attack will beat a top rushing attack 9/10 times.

besides, if we can get the 9ers into any kind of 3 and 5+, they minus well just punt it, smith really is that bad.

North Shore Who Dat since 1985

by MoonDog33 on Sep 18, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Grappling with success

 Dude from Mississippi is right. Logically, it will never be as good again as it is right now. If we can’t enjoy this, we can’t enjoy anything. We were too used to failure for too long, but life is about moving on. Saints win big.

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds" -Bob Marley

by PanheadCatahoula on Sep 18, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm... ( This national stage is ho-hum for the Saints, and unique for the 49ers. )

… let us not forget , the heritage of franchises , this is just a stepping stone back to greatness … !! GO NINER"S

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!

by Edggy on Sep 18, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

National stage or backyard football

the Saints have more talent – bottom line. Motivation can only take you so far. I can muster up all the fire and piss my body is capable of putting out, but it doesn’t mean I can hit the ball out of Fenway. Um, I don’t mean to confuse many of you with a baseball analogy… but what it means is: I’ll take the Saints.

by CajunCavern on Sep 18, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I too, understand your concern.

Our Saints have NEVER beaten the 49ers on Prime Time. NEVER. I think though, our Saints know not to take any oppenent for granted, hopefully, especially when it comes to trap games like this. Since they last played on Thursday and the 49ers played on Sunday, our Saints have had a few extra days to recover from the Vikings, and prepare for this game. I too also sometimes get bad feelings about some games, but this isn’t one of them, although this game might be closer than some of us would like. Last week our Saints hit a milestone by winning on opening day for the third year in a row, something they have never done before, and I think they will get another first this week by beating the 49ers on Prime Time for the first time ever.

by Jimmy Star 00 on Sep 18, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah well we also sucked and they were great for much of the time we ever had the opportunity to play them in primetime. Back then the only way we could beat them was if they had a really REALLY bad day. Because they were the better team. Often by far.

But history means jack squat. The only thing that matters is last week and this week.

Last week they sucked and we were OK. If we recognized that we were merely OK and corrected our mistakes, we will kick their butts. If we didn’t, then we won’t. In either case, whether they corrected their mistakes or not. Because the winner of this game will be determined by how WE play, not by how they do.

by FriarBob on Sep 18, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

bye weeks

Last year these Saints won every game after a bye. First bye was Patriots. Crushed them. Next had the first week off going in to playoffs. Cards. Crushed them. Next NFCC. didn’t crush them but won. Next 2 weeks off in to SB. No-one gave the Saints a prayer to beat the almighty Colts and his majisty Peyton Manning. Pretty much spanked that azz. Eleven days off going in to Frisco. Going to open a whole #3 tub of whip azz on them Niners. IMO LOL Who Dat !!

by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 19, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

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