Are the Falcons Ready to Prove they are an Elite NFC Team?
Sean Payton sports a pristine 7-1 record in 4 seasons as a coach against the Atlanta Falcons. Last year, the Saints swept the Falcons in two close games. The talk of the town the last two years has been that Atlanta is the biggest threat to the Saints' reign atop the NFC South. Atlanta has a boatload of talent and potential, but are they finally ready to prove they can hang with the Saints and stake their claim as a contender in the NFC? This game in the Dome will prove a lot.
If you go back to the two matchups these teams had last year, the Saints won 35-27 at home, and 26-23 on the road. Both games were highly contested, with the Saints coming up with the goods in the 4th quarter. Both teams were neck in neck for most of the game, but the Saints closed both contests much better. The second game was essentially a throw away, because Atlanta was operating without Matt Ryan or Michael Turner, and they started journeyman Chris Redman at quarterback. In both games Atlanta was able to move the ball effectively, especially in the first when Michael Turner ran for over 150 yards. Matt Ryan threw for 289 yards, and Chris Redman threw for 303. It's clear that Atlanta is capable of moving the football on the Saints and scoring points. The question is whether they can stop Drew Brees. In both games, Brees torched their defense repeatedly, while averaging just one turnover and one sack yielded per game. If history is any indicator, we should expect another shootout. Atlanta will hope the addition of Dunta Robinson will slow Brees down, if even just a bit. They'll also hope Michael Turner can have the same kind of success he had last year against the Saints, or the same success Frank Gore had last week.The bottom line is this: Atlanta at times over the last few years has looked like an elite team. Last week's blowout win over the Arizona Cardinals was a perfect example of just how scary they can be. But the minute they look like they are ready to be called a top notch team, Atlanta has found ways to regress. The season opening loss against the Ben Roethlisbergerless Pittsburgh Steelers was a perfect example, to me, that this team is still not ready to go on the road and impress the league with a huge win. While there's not a huge amount of difference in terms of talent between the Saints and the Falcons, I believe there is one major difference. The Saints have a killer instinct. The Falcons do not. They're good, and they'll beat the teams they're supposed to beat, but my opinion is they're still not ready to win the big game and play with the big boys. They don't have what it takes to battle adversity and pull off the game no one expects them to win. The moment they have a chance to shine on the big stage, they fold. I believe that will be the case again on Sunday at the Superdome.
What do you think? Is Atlanta ready to turn a corner and prove they belong with the NFL's elite? Can they come into New Orleans and win this game?
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We had a lot of trpuble with that "throw-away" game in ATL last year
Even with those main players out of the game for the Falcs, we struggled mightily to squeak out a close one, when many of us (myself included) thought we’d blow them out big time.
It's gonna be a great year.
and to answer your questions about Atlanta...
maybe. we’ll see. they could be, but so could we.
We’ve got to see if we’re for real this year, too, and if we’re going to be a consistent powerhouse like the Colts, Pats, etc.
I’m thinking Dynastic thoughts, but we’ve got to take it one game at a time.
I’m also not sure what kind of team Atlanta has. I watched most of Game 1 and it was a low-scoring slugfest with the Steelers, but how much of that was due to the Steel Curtain effect? They pasted the Cards last week, but how much of that was due to the Arizona Stinks effect?
On paper, it could go a number of ways tomorrow.
So, after all that…what’s my conclusion? I got nothin’…
It's gonna be a great year.
This may be a close contest
but I don’t see the Falcon’s defense being able to stop our offense. I think this game has the chance to be the one where our offense gets back on track!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
the surprise factor
With Reggie out, I am hoping that some of our new talent will step up to help our running game get back on track. 2.5 yds/carry last week will not cut it. If the Tusk is 100 percent, we will likely ‘surprise’ them and do fine. Both of these teams know each other well. If the offense sputters again, we’ll have to hope for a favorable turnover ratio (like last week). I would rather see our offense return to 2009 form. My hope rests with the Tusk and Betts (the surprise factor).
surprise factor - I like that
kinda like when a team always wins the first game under an interim coach/manager/QB/point guard, etc.
And with Payton/GW, we have a decent surprise factor every week…
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 25, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking at this moment....
…that The Saints are tired of the doubt they’ve been hearing about. They show why they won it all last year. That steely determination does not require a blowout and I’m not expecting one. But, I am expecting a little attitude.
Hakim dropped the ball!
by CrazyforColston on Sep 25, 2010 8:40 AM CDT reply actions
I'm sick to my stomach
Either I ate some bad tasso or I got a sickening feeling about this upcoming game. I’m nervous / excited and hope we can improve or correct some of the poblems that we had against San Fran. And I’m sure some of y’all will tell me to stop being cynical… but ………..
Bière... c'est bon et J’ai soif!
I don't think it's cynical
I don’t think it’s the tasso, either, btw. ;)
I’m wavering back and forth. It’s what some of us are going to feel until we see them in the kind of form we’ve come to expect.
My signature is likely for this week only, since that’s how we’ve been winning them. Timely turnovers.
Hakim dropped the ball!
by CrazyforColston on Sep 25, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
This game will tell a lot about both teams.
I was disappointed in our O line last week. It just looked to me they got man handled. Without Reggie our Air Force will have to show up. That last two games looked a lot like the 11-0 Saints last year. Last years Saints at that point were crippled with injures and the load being carried by the rest was taking it’s toll. We were just getting W’s, That’s not the case now. We do have a couple of significant players out in Sharper and Bush, but should be playing better. I don’t think anyone in that locker room is happy with their play the last two weeks. We shall see. Geaux Saints
by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 25, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
BTW On the killer instinct I haven't see it.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 25, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions
agreed
"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
by BRSaintsFan on Sep 25, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Are the falcons elite if they beat the Saints.
Or is this question in regards that the outcome does not matter.
"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44
Falcons fan here
a well written article, agree with all things you say. if I just might add a point – I think there’s something else that makes these two teams different. it’s more of a reason rather than consequence – it’s coaching. both head coaches are top tier professionals and good men. but Mike Smith is very conservative while Sean Payton takes his chances once in a while (how about that surprise onside kick during the SB? I can’t imagine Mike Smith going for it), and sometimes it pays off. I can understand the play-it-safe approach our coaches take, but fans love when we go for it on 4th down or when we take chances believing in the players.
We, Falcons fans, blame our offensive coordinator, Mularkey, for holding the offense back a lot and playing it too safe. in one of the games last year he called 4 identical plays in a row when we had 1st and goal at the 5 yard line, and we were stopped. in indirect confirmation for this blame is that any time the Falcons are in a no-huddle mode, Ryan has a better game.
We feel this time around the Falcons have good chances of winning, although I’m glad we’re the underdogs (in that Steelers game for some reason Falcons were the favorites and they lost). A loss in this game won’t change the fortunes a lot, but if it’s the Falcons who come up short, it would be safe to say we’d be aiming for a wild card from this early in the season.
I’d prefer if we split the games this season, with the Falcons winning at the Superdome tomorrow, and letting you guys have that game in Atlanta in week 16 when the division is already wrapped up :)
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
If the division is already wrapped up in week 16 then that won’t be a good game. This is the game where both teams are playing for all the marbles.
"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
ironically
it was the Atlanta game between these teams that pretty much sealed the Division title for the Saints last year.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
Actually the Saints sealed in up in the Redskins game last year.
We already had the division coming into the 2nd Atlanta game.
Week 3 matchup: Falcons
Week 3 motto: Score
you're right
got it wrong. but that actually underlines my point – by the time these two play in ATL, the division title might be decided
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
I wouldn't be so sure,
Depends on how the season rolls out.
Week 3 matchup: Falcons
Week 3 motto: Score
Right
But the only way I can see the game mattering for both teams is for home field advantage.
"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
Gemini
thanks for stopping by!
We used to be cursed by an infuriatingly conservative play-caller on offense in the 80’s – Carl Smith. It drove us absolutely bats*** insanely angry because we had an awesome defense that would get the ball to the offense by either getting a takeaway or forcing a punt, and we would be lucky to get a FG out of it. I know your pain.
Good luck with that in all your other games after this week and except for Week 16. :-)
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 25, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks!
if that’s just two more losses for the season, I’d happily take a 13-3 record :), and most likely a rematch with the Saints in the playoffs
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
Ha! Good thoughts...
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 25, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
last two years??
The talk of the town the last two years has been that Atlanta is the biggest threat to the Saints’ reign atop the NFC South.
At this point two years ago, the Saints were 1-2 and headed for NFC South basement.
As much as we all want to see Drew have one of his 350 yd, 3 TD games, I think the key to the Saints offense this Sunday will be the running game. The Falcons are ranked 26th in total run defense, allowing over 130 yds/game, and dead last in rushing average, 5.9 ypc. While it’s true that there weren’t facing pass happy offenses, it’s also true that the offensive lines they were against were not particularly good either, especially the Steelers. I don’t know if Payton has ever coached a Saints game with a 60/40 split of rushing/passing plays, but I’d sure like to see it this weekend.
A lot of that is based on two big plays
Not saying Pierre can’t break a long run (he can), but an 80 yard run and a 50 yard run have significantly skewed our averages. On the whole, we’re an average run defense.
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fair enough
I’d forgotten about the Steelers TD run in OT. Ignoring those two long runs, the Falcons are giving up about 3.5 ypc. But again, that was against two sub par offenses, and in particular sub par offensive lines. The Saints O-Line has had me concerned so far this season, so it should be interesting to see if they can get back to pro-bowl form when it matters most this weekend.
On the other side, I have no illusions of the Saints duplicating the Steelers’ run defense, but they should be significantly better than Arizona.
Whenever I see Admiral Ackbar
I get hungry. I want to fillet him and make a coubayon or gumbo…emm Ackbar gumbo.
"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
you know, I just thought of something
as we are the reigning champs,
every game will be a trap game – how on earth do we deal with that?
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 25, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds good to me
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 25, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of win again
what do you think of the new huddle cheer Drew does with the team? I’ve heard it and I’m not sure what all the parts of it are, but I like it – it’s a bit different from last year’s, which is good – look forward and win the super bowl in a whole new different way…
It's gonna be a great year.
by Hans Petersen on Sep 25, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I don’t care for it as much as the previous two.
I’m not sure if it gets the team as fired up as before. It doesn’t seem to have the same build up of emotion.
I’m not saying it’s why we’re not lighting it up, but… I don’t know. The jury’s still out for me.
Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.
ditto
"I don't think we're the team with the target on our backs. They're not gunning for us, we're gunning for them. We're the ones with the scope." - Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
I'm less nervous for this game
than I was last week. Not like that means anything…either of these games could be a trap. I’ll keep putting my faith in Payloo to handle things!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees
Should have been THOSE games...wish we could edit!
"It's about time that something good like this happened." - Drew Brees

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