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New Orleans Saints 24 @ Tennessee Titans 27: The Morning After

NASHVILLE TN - SEPTEMBER 02:  Coach Sean Payton of the New Orleans Saints watches during an exhibition game against the Tennessee Titans at LP Field on September 2 2010 in Nashville Tennessee. Tennessee won 27-24.  (Photo by Grant Halverson/Getty Images)

Another pre-season is in the books for the New Orleans Saints as they drop their final game to the Tennessee Titans 27-24, foregoing a late-game field goal attempt to send it into overtime.

The game was sloppy, as expected, but got interesting at the end as the Saints pulled closer and closer. Some questions were answered while new ones are raised. A few players used the opportunity to raise their stock one last time while others may not have done enough. Some of the position battle decisions have become a little easier while others may have only gotten tougher. One thing is for sure: I'm glad I'm not the one who has to decide. Unfortunately, the Saints didn't escape the game injury free; Chris Ivory left with an undisclosed knee injury and Jonathan Casillas has a sprained foot. More information to come on that today. 

Make the jump, as usual, for my detailed game notes, observations and opinions in bullet form. Then comment with your own notes, observations and opinions. 

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  • Can't say enough about Junior Galette's performance last night. A blocked punt, a sack and some nice tackles on special teams and in the backfield; Galette can do it all. After having two quiet games prior to last night, it was good to see his speed back in action. He may single-handedly have won a spot on this team with what he put on tape tonight.
  • Also playing well on defense was linebacker Jonathan Casillas, who looked good early in the game during his limited time including a sweet open field tackle. Naturally, it just had to end badly with Casillas leaving the game with a foot sprain. He's scheduled for an MRI today; hopefully he's ready to go next week.
  • Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. Not only some of the tackling but also the concentration. The penalties were just absurd, and that goes for both teams. But that's exactly what we all expected with the two's and three's playing a majority of the game. Since the first week of pre-season the Saints have been called for increasingly more penalties each week. Not the direction I want to see the team going. Hopefully that gets cleaned right up with the when the Vikings roll into town and the starters are actually playing.
  • Garrett  Hartley = money. Love that kid. 
  • If I had to pick one I think I would have to say that Patrick Ramsey had the better game last night and will win the backup quarterback battle over Chase Daniel. It was close; neither played great and neither played awful but I would prefer to go with experience. Those who favor Daniel often tout his potential, which is great for the future of the team. But if Brees goes down now, what good does potential do? Ramsey is the guy for this year, Daniel is the guy for next. Just my opinion. I don't, however, think either of them will be cut. 
  • Montez Billings: You are the weakest link. Goodbye. (P.S. - Sorry, dude. You're cool.)
  • The Saints coaching staff has one hell of a decision to make with regard to Adrian Arrington. My heart says the team makes room for him on the roster; my head says he's a gonner. Arrington has been the epitome of consistency this pre-season when it comes to playing wide receiver. But the Saints gave him plenty of opportunity to contribute elsewhere like kick returns, practically begging for him to give them a reason to keep him, and couldn't really make an impact. It's hard to believe but Arrington may not have done enough. If the Saints do let him go, I don't think they'll be able to get him back. 
  • Right now I am seriously concerned about Chris Ivory's knee injury. We got no news last night about the severity and in my mind that means bad news. I'm also a little ticked off that he's currently in this situation to begin with. I didn't expect him to get many carries against the Titans and I personally would have kept him off the field entirely if it were my decision. He has already proven himself this pre-season and is clearly the No. 3 running back on the depth chart. In the Saints system, that's still a pretty significant role. Way too significant to be playing in the final game of pre-season. 
  • Usama Young should be pissing in his pants right now. I'm afraid his time may be coming to an end here in New Orleans.
  • Jeff Charleston put together a good final bid to keep his roster spot with four tackles and a sack. 
  • I am so happy to finally be writing something positive about defensive tackle Al Woods. This was probably his finest performance to date, his biggest play being the fumble recovery. Reacting very quickly, Woods dove on a botched Titans snap in their red zone. Might have earned himself a spot on the final 53 but at the very least, he's practice squad material. 
  • There wasn't much of a distinguishable difference between the production of Ladell Betts and DeShawn Wynn last night. Like the battle for backup quarterback, this race is pretty tight. I guess I would give the nod to Betts for his slightly better performance in the previous games. If Chris Ivory's injury really is serious, they might both make the team.
  • Let me be the first to say that this Jimmy Graham kid was the steal of this years draft and is going to be a future hall-of-famer in just a few years. I'm kidding, of course, but he showed a little something tonight, most notably on special teams with his blocked punt. Still need to see more from him. It also didn't look like he has fully recovered from that ankle injury.
  • Harry Coleman: Too little too late?
Poll
Who was the Saints player of the game?
Junior Galette
186 votes
Adrian Arrington
46 votes
Chris Reis
7 votes
Ladell Betts
3 votes
Jeff Charleston
20 votes
Jimmy Graham
7 votes
Garrett Hartley
48 votes

317 votes | Poll has closed

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Very sloppy yes!

But there were some good moments in the game. 12 penalties is unacceptable and that’s what loses close ball games. And I’m still kinda worried about our run defense. Chase Daniel really looks like a leader out there. I hope they move him to No.2 QB, he deserves it.

by Jricky70 on Sep 3, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

“I’m also a little ticked off that he’s currently in this situation to begin with. I didn’t expect him to get many carries against the Titans and I personally would have kept him off the field entirely if it were my decision. He has already proven himself this pre-season and is clearly the No. 3 running back on the depth chart. In the Saints system, that’s still a pretty significant role. Way too significant to be playing in the final game of pre-season.”

Don’t fret too much. Had he not played, he would have gotten injured on his fourth carry of the regular season, in which case we wouldn’t have had Wynn and/or Betts on the roster to fall back on. In terms of remaining 100% healthy, Ivory is little more than a poor man’s Montario Hardesty. I’d personally rather face the music now than later.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

While there’s absolutely no logic to this statement, I intend to full-heartedly believe it’s every word.

by AJG on Sep 3, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

well-said AJG

it has a truthiness or gut-level logic to it

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

correction
While there’s absolutely no logic to this statement, I intend to full-heartedly believe it’s every word.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 3, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's just saying that injuries are going to happen no matter when or where you rest your players

haven’t you seen those Final Destination movies? – those catalog-model teenagers keep thinking that they’ve beaten death, but then he always gets everybody and then comes back in a sequel…

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

“If I had to pick one I think I would have to say that Patrick Ramsey had the better game last night and will win the backup quarterback battle over Chase Daniel. I don’t, however, think either of them will be cut. "

“If Chris Ivory’s injury really is serious, they might both make the team.”

Agreed (and perfectly fine) with both of the above assessments.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I concur

It may go against Payton’s norm of keeping only two active QB’s but Payton has got to love Daniel’s potential. I am sure he’s aware that this kid will be picked up if they let him go so rather than ruin a project with a lot of upside, I think he will keep both, with Ramsey as the official number 2. Makes me happy because although I do like Daniel a lot, I like the fact that Ramsey seems more than capable and has NFL experience and above all, he’s a local boy! Although he admits to not following Tulane much anymore, but hey, I never followed Tulane so it’s all good :)

by narco301 on Sep 3, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were more flags in that game than at the UN Headquarters in New York

Watching that game was like going to the dentist. I did it because I felt like it was something I needed to do. Except I didn’t get a new toothbrush at the end.

by Nabb1 on Sep 3, 2010 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Usama Young isn’t going anywhere, he’s solid on special teams….and there’s nobody on the roster who can play safety…so who’d replace him?

if AA is gone, he gets phone calls from 31 other teams….and the Vikings at this point might be team #1.

Galette and Charleston have been our 2 best DEs all preseason. So what does that mean for roster spots when you throw in Wilkerson, Brown, McCray and the rest? We can’t keep 7 DEs on the roster.

Young Al is unfortunately destined for the PS. Too little too late, he was invisible until last night. If we were going to keep him, we wouldn’t have signed Clancy.

Daniel deserves the slot over Ramsay. He seems the better leader and can get the team rallied around him. You can’t worry about “what if Brees goes down.” You can’t live off what ifs. There’s no doubt Daniel is better than Brunell and we lived off only 2 QBs on the roster most of last year. So why should this year be any different? Go with the kid.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

P.S. Why do people always mention Harry Coleman? He’s a nobody camp body who was simply in the right place, right time, on the blocked punt (think that was the one). What gives? He some homer guy or something?

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

LSU! LSU! LSU!

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

guess that explains it. Gotta realize even LSU lets out a few stinkers.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

McCray is going to be another victim of the “potential vs. experience” debate. Galette outplayed him all preseason.

As for Daniel vs. Ramsey: one thing Payton knows for sure is that Ramsey will never be another Brees. Not even close. But Daniel? …perhaps. Maybe. There’s a chance. And is someone like Sean Payton going to pass up that chance and watch while Daniel blooms on another team? I don’t think so. Daniel stays.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 3, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, though I think they both stay. And Ramsey backs up Brees in 2010.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Go with the kid.”

Jeff believes the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

We gotta teach them all the beauty they possess in side. You know…give them a sense of pride, to make it easier and remind them how it used to be.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

we keep 3 QBs

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

AA is gone

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Thorry, I’m not into atiel.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

If AA’s gone, we’re probably lining up against him in week 1.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

AA never clears waivers...

Someone else wil pick him up. Probably not the Vikes since they are lower on the list than most teams.

The Saints must repeat so I can watch the Saints win the Superbowl LIVE... Not on vhs two months later....

by Dan39465 on Sep 3, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d rather face Arrington than Camarillo.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t. At least when our safeties get out of position, which they will, they can run down Camarillo.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, but with Arrington, there’s a better chance the pass would be dropped.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really not much of a difference in 40 times, btw. Camarillo ran a 4.6 coming out of college, Arrington a 4.55.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

I got that one!

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by Dave Cariello on Sep 3, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

boy that would really suck

then I gotta dislike the guy. He’s a well spoken kid and gamer but my fandom knows no logic. If he’s in purple, he’s my enemy. Kinda like the Farve thing.

by narco301 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

not sure about Usama

like PayLoo did with the team at the start of training camp

Here are 5 reasons to cut him

Here are 5 reasons to keep him

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

He’s one of our stronger ST players, and there’s nobody around to replace him. Vaughn is better suited to back up Harper, and Sharper needs a walker.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Safety is a headache...

so glad I don’t have to decide that issue. I trust the coaching staff to make the right choices though in who will stay and who will go.

by narco301 on Sep 3, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

p.s.

Would also suck if Usama goes because he was my son’s first autograph. Well technically Brandon Jacobs was but I got that for my son when I met Jacobs, my son personally got the one from Usama.

by narco301 on Sep 3, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Graham

we might just have to start calling him J.J. and then say “Dyn-o-Mite!!” when he makes a play

He just looks graceful and smooth running with the ball after the catch – kinda like a taller version of Colston – not your typical lumbering stumbling bumbling rumbling Tight End.

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

If we could somehow bring back RBs Vincent Alexander and Mike Bell, we could dial up a few Alexander-Graham-Bell trick plays. Courtney Watson, come quickly!

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or Charles. LSU! LSU!

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

we could go waaaay back for Vincent

Covington High! Covington High! Covington High!

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tusk's knee

Stu…I’m starting to get worried

being the Saints 3rd RB this year is like being the drummer for Spinal Tap (choke on someone else’s vomit, spontaneously combust into a little green globule, etc.)

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Are you saying we should crank the Superdome crowd noise up to an 11?

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 3, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

As soon as RB#3 ruptures and achilles during a freak gardening accident….I’m out of here.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 3, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

me too

It's gonna be a great year.

by HansDat on Sep 3, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

My two cents

1) Ivory ends up on IR in a typical Payton’ fashion to keep a promising player around

2) Reggie Jones blew it, allowing a TD and a long completion. Shame the kid was promising – practice squad bound

3) Usama I hope we have seen the last of him, ST “ace” or not. Burn me baby

4) AA is a beast with a lazy lazy almost egoistic attitude. Seen it yesterday when Chase had to move him prior the snap a couple of times probaly basking in glory of his reception, vs the Pats when he didnt block for Chase and I can go on. As returner he is pathetic. I am torn…

5) Ramsey had overall the better night but he wasnt really challenged. Daniel moved the ball well when it mattered, made plays and almost pulled it out.

6) Gallette and Charleston are way ahead of Low Octane BMR.

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by bondcrash on Sep 3, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Were you not entertained?
Right now I am seriously concerned about Chris Ivory’s knee injury. We got no news last night about the severity and in my mind that means bad news. I’m also a little ticked off that he’s currently in this situation to begin with. I didn’t expect him to get many carries against the Titans and I personally would have kept him off the field entirely if it were my decision. He has already proven himself this pre-season and is clearly the No. 3 running back on the depth chart. In the Saints system, that’s still a pretty significant role. Way too significant to be playing in the final game of pre-season.

Gee, those 4 preseason games really sorted out our 3rd RB situation. All we needed was a guy who could come in and get a first down in short yardage situations. By default that was Ivory’s job before the 4th preseason game. Absolutely no need to see Chris Ivory play every down in the final preseason game. Disgusting. I guess somebody had to line up with the other 22 scrubs who are going to get cut this week.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Sep 3, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah it was just stupid to play anyone you didn't want to get injured

i pre-bitched about ivory playing before the game. Now I’m just sad.

by xen-cuts on Sep 3, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Graham looks average to me

not sure what all the hype is about. He looks fast but makes up for that by sucking at catching or running bad routes.

by xen-cuts on Sep 3, 2010 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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