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Around SBN: Knicks 90, Raptors 87: "Shump and Lin wouldn't let us lose."

Ok folks, the sky is NOT falling

Wow, I read through the posts from this afternoon and I can barely believe what I'm seeing.  From whining and moaning about depth on the OL or DL, to worrying about injuries, to all sorts of other things, I see a fan base that has no heart and no perseverance.  I understand.  We're still used to sucking and not used to winning.  Even with four years now of the best coach and best QB we've ever had, we don't yet really expect to win.

Well I'll let you in on a secret.  Drew Brees and the Saints don't feel the same way.

Star-divide

Depth getting you down?  It shouldn't.  I look through the "final" roster posted here and I see a team that has covered the requirements and has depth to cover most of their needs.  I also see a roster that will yet be tweaked further, but is still pretty decent anyway.

Some teams do keep 9 or even 10 OL, but it's not like it's required or anything.  To some degree, keeping 9 OL is just as much a luxury as keeping 6 WRs.  Either way, somebody still has to be deactivated on gameday.  We're just going to deactivate a WR instead of a backup OL or two.  We have the best Guard in the league and a reasonably close second.  Sure injury may strike.  But it may not.  And either way, all you can do is make plans to cover as best you can.  Backup OL players on a good team always have to be versatile.  Of the list, the only person we don't know is versatile is Brown.  But he's also probably last on the depth chart and may not even be active on gameday much of the year.

DL looks weak too, but partly that's because of the organization.  Hargrove is listed as a DE in that post and on yahoo, but as a DT on SBN.  NFL.com lists him as a DT too.  And the official Saints site roster lists him as simply "DL".  He can be either a DT or a DE.  He played mainly DT for us last year, and I suspect he'll do the same this year.  In fact, even though they list him as a DE, yahoo puts him in our depth chart as a DT.  Wilkerson is listed as a DT in the same post, yet both yahoo and NFL list him as a DE.  Surprise, surprise, NOS.com again lists him as DL.  He's versatile as well.  Galette may play some LB, or may be inactive, or maybe some of both.

Some people are on the roster for now while we look to see if we win a waiver claim on somebody else we like better.  Or if there is a veteran we can sign whom we like better.  So don't panic yet.  KC may not stick.  AA may yet get traded, or even cut.  Same with Humphrey.

Plus, remember that we have to deactivate 8 people on gameday.  So we'll lose some of our depth anyway.  If everybody currently on the roster sticks (not likely) this is who will probably be inactive:

Chris Ivory (until he heals, then likely DeShawn Wynn instead)
Adrian Arrington
Tory Humphrey
Charles Brown
K.C. Asiodu
Leigh Torrence or Patrick Robinson

Then, depending on expected alignments and gameplan, two of the following:

Junior Galette
Jimmy Wilkerson
Marvin Mitchell
Anthony Waters     
Usama Young
Jimmy Graham

That's 14 players total listed who are all decent players (for backups/rookies, at least), of which we only have to deactivate 8.

Plus there are still options on trades, waiver claims, and FA signings.  Even at #32 we still might win a claim or two.  And some of the people we cut will end up on the practice squad, and maybe one of them will play really well and get activated.  Or we'll grab somebody else off another team's PS.  Or we'll figure out a way to use what we've got to get the job done.  Plus we have Sharper and Ingram on PUP who may yet help out later in the season.

And speaking of PUP, that only knocks people out for a minimum of six games, with a maximum of 12 unless we release or IR them.  And of our first 6 games, there isn't a single one we have "no chance" at with the current roster.  There isn't really even one we "should" lose, although there probably is at least one, maybe two, that we will.  As badly as I want to beat the crap outta minnysoso to spite the annoying brats among their fans, it's not the end of the world if we lose it.  San Fran doesn't really scare me.  It'll be a fight, of course, because they _are_ decent, but they aren't THAT good.  Not yet.  Maybe in another year or two.  Atwanta still needs to find a defense before they truly scare me.  For that matter, they might need to find an offense if preseason actually means anything (though it probably doesn't).  Carolina is the exact opposite, they need to find an offense.  But again preseason probably doesn't mean squat, and their offense won't be as horrid and their defense won't be as good.  They still aren't the better team.  We may lose, division games are always a fight, but they still aren't the better team.  Arizona might still be starting Derek Anderson, and if so, he's like Brett with less experience and even less durability.  I saw some of his one good year with the Browns.  He wasn't that good.  One sack and he's tossing INTs and going 3-and-out.  And if we care enough to try, Tampa Bay will be lucky if we only beat them by 14.  And after that, Sharper and Ingram are eligible to come back if they're healthy and ready to contribute.

So the sky isn't falling.  And even if it was, we're not chicken little.  Plus we have coaches who can think outside the box enough to put any sky chucks that fall back up in the sky.  It's not like we have an incompetent OC who can't figure out how to do anything but run, run, pass, and punt.  Or a DC who can't figure out how to do anything but play prevent defense.  Sure, maybe our D won't be great.  But GW will do everything humanly possible to make it decent.  And that will be good enough to keep us in contention.  Because we still have Brees.  And if need be, we have Daniel, who isn't nearly as good, no, but he's decent enough to keep us moving and scoring enough points to at least have a shot at most games.  And for now, that's ALL we know.

So, basically, guys, "Don't freak out!"

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I would like to repeat what I said earlier

Rec’d for not being a Chicken Little. We won the superbowl and made it through some games last year with everything going wrong. We are still great and the Saints will still be playoff contenders this year.

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 5, 2010 1:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Ok I didn't say the last part earlier

Only the first sentence.

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 5, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good post FB

You are my people, you are my crowd, this is our music, we love it loud...

by bondcrash on Sep 5, 2010 4:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Yea i think were going to keep a few OL on the practice squad

there are players we are going to put on the squad we just kept signed instead so they wouldnt be subjected to clearing waivers and then they will be inactive

World Champions at last

by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 5, 2010 5:50 AM CDT reply actions  

There were only seven teams that gave up more yardage than us on defense last year, which was actually a decline in the rankings from 2008. As long as we force 40 turnovers again … to which Optimucius say no big deal … we fine. WE FINE.

"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper

by coldpizza on Sep 5, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post....

However It took 40 years for saints fans to feel like winners….many wont feel comfortable with injuries/depth so quickly even if we did win the superbowl….

Remember 2006? then 07-08? All that being said good post.

by blackandgoldbuddha on Sep 5, 2010 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

somewhat of a chicken-little myself

but believe in Mr. Shockey’s comment on twitter

What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy

by OldFartFan on Sep 5, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions  

There are only two decent options at OLB left with the league wide trim down of players

1. Derrick Burgess New England
2. Teddy Lehman Jacksonville (Which would be a push)

Burgess is a 10 year veteran and might have a little wear and tear on him, but is a solid starter
Lehman has been an under achieving for a couple season and perhaps with aggressive defensive schemes he would perform better. Lehman is a 6 year veteran.

"I can eat oreos faster than him" Scott Fujita's take on Payton Manning SB44

by jeremysherwin on Sep 5, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

No worries

the season long tweaks and adjustments starts Thurs. No way the skies are falling. Heck the Titans are starting VY in the 4th pre-s. gm. Romo’s fumbling snaps/handoffs, Mcnabb’s hurt , Lienhart wants a trade?and there’s the drama of Frett Barve, so cheer up Who-Dats. And lets do this thang.! Other teams got probs. not us. Love to see GW put Galette in on some blitz pkgs. as an OLB sometime during the sea. mmmaybe Thur. Galette gets a sack on Ol Frett.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Sep 5, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Leinart got cut

"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley

by Alex Swift on Sep 5, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Watching replay, checking out the ‘Cut Crawl’

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Sep 5, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m watching the replay too. Kind of disappointed that it’s the Titans broadcast, it’s a little bit discouraging that they get excited for the Titans plays, but not for the Saints plays.

"Here's the funny thing. Last night, I couldn't sleep too well. I called my dad (Bill) at 2:15 in the morning, and told him I had a feeling I was going to hit the game-winner from 42 yards on the right hash. I think I was two yards off."- Garrett Hartley

by Alex Swift on Sep 5, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was hoping

2nd half would b Jim Henderson and co.,they used to do it that way(split broadcast)Titan nerd and Eddie George are trrrrble. and AA was open the last 2 pass att.

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Sep 5, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Did you see the protection on that pass play?

Dat wuz terrible."

Week 1 matchup: Vikings
Week 1 motto: Win Again

by Jon Banks on Sep 6, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dat's where i got it from

or the Bill Walton classic “Horrrrrible”

You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.

by metryman on Sep 6, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree

this kids a ball player

What wonderful little gifts April Fools Day brings.
~D's Pappy

by OldFartFan on Sep 6, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

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