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New Orleans Saints @ Minnesota Vikings: Interview with the Enemy

You know that game time is getting close when we share questions and answers with a blogger representing the SB Nation website of the Saints next opponent, so you'll be happy to know that's exactly what I've got lined up for you today. I had the pleasure to query contributing writer Ted Glover over at Daily Norseman about the Vikings and their upcoming matchup against the Saints this Thursday. Ted's answers were valuable and insightful.  

Make the jump to read our exchange in it's entirety. Then be sure to read my answers to his questions right here at the Daily  Norseman. Much thanks to Ted Glover for his time and participation. 

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CSC:  Are you worried about Favre's age finally catching up with him? Do you expect him to follow up last seasons impressive performance with another and why?

DN:  I'm not, actually.  For the last 64 seasons we've been dealing with the Favre retirement drama, and in the last three it's been an injury on top of that.  First the thumb, I think it was, then the shoulder, now the ankle.  I don't know if Favre is genuinely concerned about his ailment du jour, or if he's doing a kind of rope-a-dope strategy to make it look like he's one good hit away from retirement, then miraculously guts through it with a heroic, superhuman effort that is more overblown than it really is.  Either way, I don't see him missing a start or a snap of any significance this season.  I used to think he was one hit away from being done, but no more.  The guy defies conventional wisdom, and I feel he will this year as well.

 

CSC: Do you think that trading Benny Sapp for Greg Camarillo left the depth in the Vikings secondary too thin or did the team really need another receiver that badly?

DN:  No and yes, and a very timely question as we have some breaking news about the Vikes CB's.  The day the trade was made, it was a solid move for the Vikings.  Rookie Chris Cook has had a great training camp and pre-season, and moved up the depth chart like a rocket, which is why Sapp was expendable.  The day after the trade, Cook tore his meniscus and will miss two weeks, making the move questionable, as Lito Sheppard has looked like the guy that was picked last in playground games so far this pre-season.  But just today defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier said he has not ruled out Cedric Griffin for Thursday's game.  Griffin is the starter opposite Antoine Winfield who tore his ACL in last year's NFC Championship game, and if he's healthy, or can at least contribute in a nickel role, I can live with the Winfield/Asher Allen/Griffen triumvirate.  Once Cook is healthy, I think the Vikes will have one of the deeper talent pools in CB in the league.  Safety is still a question mark, quite frankly.  Madieu Williams and Tyrell Johnson (or Jamarca Sanford, not sure who the starter is) need to really improve on lackluster 2009 season.

 

CSC: How do the Saints shut down Adrian Peterson? What have other teams done to successfully achieve this goal?

DN:  In 2008, it wasn't possible, not for a whole game.  Put 8 men in the box, and he'll still eventually break one.  Last year, the Vikings offensive line had some injury issues, and their performance dropped, but Peterson was still a beast.  The great thing about having Favre is that if you put 8 men in the box, he'll check out of it and burn you with a pass, something Tarvaris Jackson couldn't do.  That said, if the Saints play their gaps, pursue to the ball laterally, and disguise their run coverage support, they have a chance.  One of the overlooked things from the NFCCG is that yeah, Peterson fumbled three times, but he also ran for over 120 yards and three scores.  The Vikes offensive line appears to be healthy for the first time since LAST season's opener, so I like the matchup, to be honest.  Especially with the Saints injury issues at linebacker.

 

CSC: What do you expect the Vikings game plan to include on Thursday night?

DN:  Exactly what it was the last time the two teams met, minus the turnovers.  Gregg Williams brought pressure, and Favre took a beating, but he wasn't sacked.  Minnesota had some big plays when the Saints blitzed, Peterson ran as well as he had since the beginning of the year, and Favre distributed the ball well.  Like last time, I expect long sustained drives that eat the clock, a desire to establish the run early, and an attempt to take the crowd out of the game early and make them a non-factor.  On defense, they need to bring a lot more pressure than they did last time, and try to make Brees uncomfortable in the pocket.  If he has time, he'll be Drew Brees and rake the defense.

Oh, and NO #$%^@&## TURNOVERS!!!!!!  Sorry, I'm much better now.   

 

CSC: This is only the first game of the season yet it's being built up like a playoff game because of how close last years NFC Championship Game was and the way it all unfolded. Are you expecting a similar matchup; another close nail biter? Do you think this game will bring any sort of closure to the two teams fanbases?

DN:  I expect a very good game, much like last time.  The Saints and the Superdome will be fired up, but so will the Vikings, as there is very much a sense of ‘that should/could have been us', and I think that will fire up the Vikings.  Will it be closure for us?  Well, I can't speak for the entire fanbase, but for me, it won't even be close.  If the Vikings win, it will be one win in the first of a 16 game season, where anything could happen.  No, the Vikings have been here before.  In 1999, they went on the road for their opener and beat Atlantaafter losing the '98 NFC Championship.  Big deal, they won a game and almost didn't make the playoffs that year.

And no offense, but why would you guys need closure from this game?  Win or lose, you still won the Super Bowl last year, and the Saints beat the Vikings last year in the biggest game in their team's history, up to that point.  If the Vikes win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I don't care if they go 0-16 for the next three years afterwards.  Honestly, I wouldn't.  It would mean that much to me. 

 

CSC: Bonus: Care to make a prediction?

DN:  I like the Vikings in this game.  The motivation of seeing that championship banner raised will very much be a two way street on Thursday, one I think the Vikings can use to their advantage.  The offensive line looks to be healthy, the secondary is getting healthy, and your linebacker situation looks to be something the Vikings can really exploit. 

Vikings win, 31-27.

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I thought that in 2008

We stopped Peterson for a whole game. We just couldn’t stop Gus (Ferrote?)

by Ezio_Auditore on Sep 7, 2010 7:00 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

yep...

I lol’d when I saw that too…

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200810060nor.htm

32 yds on 21 attempts with a 1.5 ypa…… lawlz!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde

by tlsk1066 on Sep 7, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking the same thing.

"It's about time something like this happened." Drew Brees

by saints_r_us#9 on Sep 7, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, my bad on that

I stand corrected. I forgot that AP was shut down that game. He was pretty ridiculous the rest of the season, though.

How in God’s name did you let Gus Frerotte beat you? I love Gus, but he’ll never be a ‘clutch’ guy like he was in the fourth quarter of that game. That win really saved our season that year, too. 1-4 would’ve been a lot different than 2-3.

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by Ted Glover on Sep 7, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I ask that same question.

Bush had 2 PR for TD’s, AP was shut down, and we lost. Hmm, I think it might have had something to do with a CB that shall remain nameless, and a complete lack of defensive guidance and direction, but I could be wrong.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Sep 7, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

And with turnovers

and with bad officiating (in particular, an uncalled personal foul that should have negated a critical turnover). And we bitched like we were at a PMS convention. Yeah, we did.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 7, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Face mask... thanks Mr Hochuli

You are my people, you are my crowd, this is our music, we love it loud...

by bondcrash on Sep 7, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And another blocked one that was returned for a TD.

Yeah, that game was DEFINITELY a screwed up mess in just about every fashion. On both sides, actually. Made the NFCCG look tame in comparison.

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

If am anot wrong there was a pass interference by....

David maybe? that costed some 30 yds or so and let them kick a FG

You are my people, you are my crowd, this is our music, we love it loud...

by bondcrash on Sep 7, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said the name!

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 7, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are now going to be banned

for speakig the name that shall not be spoken

Superbowl bound!!!...I know! do you?! Go Saints!!

by skinnykinney on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Please…. I am on my knees begging for mercy… wont happen again… next time i’ll mention KK or Jeff Bullocks….

D@mn I did again….

You are my people, you are my crowd, this is our music, we love it loud...

by bondcrash on Sep 7, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Bullocks…. you see I dont even remember his name… is that a good sign right…??

You are my people, you are my crowd, this is our music, we love it loud...

by bondcrash on Sep 7, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is a good sign indeed.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah we held peterson for 34 total rushing yards

It was his worst night as a pro. However, we turned the ball over 4 times. That cost us the game.

by Jricky70 on Sep 7, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno about worst night

The 49’ers did a good number on him, and then the Redskins after that, back in his rookie year. It was a horrible game for him, but I think the Redskins game was worse, especially because we lost that one.

by Frost on Sep 7, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was kind of suprise we would get a chat with the enemy.

I always enjoy them. Good work from Ted with DN and Dave with CSC. I can’t believe we are only two days from the game. The game will be epic. The Saint’s run defense is what I’m worried about the most. We need Drew to have a great game. He needs to hold onto the ball if he gets hit. Reggie Bush will be awesome this year. I love the beginning of the season when our hopes and expectations are high. I can’t wait until some football.

by rustdog74 on Sep 7, 2010 7:01 AM CDT reply actions  

So this is...

what it feels like to be the hunted instead of the hunter…I love it!

Repeat? Under construction...

by FrenchFreak on Sep 7, 2010 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice interview

I think Favres ankle injury was a big concern to him and may have had
a lot to the media led “will he/won`t he” frenzy.
I personally think it will be a scrappy game being the 1st one up and again
the team that avoids turnovers should prevail.
Reply to Ezio there may be an “R” and “T” missing from that surname but
not 100% sure. Also Winfield was crazy good in that game,unfortunately.

Aints no more

by saint_chew on Sep 7, 2010 7:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I notice that the lead blogger from DN wasn't the interviewee...

…hmm…

;-)

As for the game, FAR-VUH’s deal with the devil is over, his ankle WILL be an issue, so will the Saints pass rush.

Not even close folks.

Vikings 23
Saints 42

Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!

by GSO Saints Fan on Sep 7, 2010 7:06 AM CDT reply actions  

He takes one legit hit and that ankle could cause problems

I forget he is old, so we shouldn’t hit him. I did hear that they are implementing a new rule for Brett Favre. Its called the two hand rule. We tap him with two hands he is down.

by rustdog74 on Sep 7, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Boom

We played that in elementary school

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 7, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

BOOM rec'd it

Good call

Ain’t it hard when you discover that he really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal, how does it feel?

by stujo4 on Sep 7, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is why I'm picking the Saints

“Exactly what it was the last time the two teams met, minus the turnovers.”

First of all, and not for the first time: they weren’t turnovers. They were takeaways. We’ll again have some say in the matter.

But most importantly: I think you’re right. I think that’s exactly how Minnesota is going to approach this game. And as the Colts proved in the Super Bowl, taking a “business as usual” approach against the Saints is the best way to get yourself beaten. The Saints don’t play that way: they’ll have concocted something special, something you’re not prepared for. I look for this to be another chapter in the saga of Brad Clueless.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 7, 2010 7:32 AM CDT reply actions  

like the one where the hand off was done poorly?

That must have been gris gris man’s take away I guess. Good Job! I do get it though your defense is predatory it’s a cool way to play if you can get the offense to back it up. Personally, I think that the biggest problem we’ll have this game will be Favre. Not that he’s injured but that he’s not really in shape or synched up with people on the team. Last year the first couple of games we played he looked fairly rusty. Luckily we played some mediocre teams to start the season. This year not so much…

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 7, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was AP being scared of our defense. He didn't want the ball, so he wouldn't get hit.

Just kidding. At least three of the 5 turnovers were caused by a Saint’s defender. They didn’t drop the ball. A Saint’s defender stripped the ball away, so yes its called a takeaway.

by rustdog74 on Sep 7, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Four of the ones that were actually takeaways/turnovers. And ALL of the fumbles save that one, were stripped balls where a defender knocked the ball loose. I even have screencaps of the Percy Harvin one just to prove the point.

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was the only one that wasn't a takeaway... that was a BONEHEAD play by AP.

That one was a gift, and we thank AP for it.

The rest (including the 3 fumbles that you recovered and one INT that was prevented by offensive pass interference) were and would have been take-aways.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I know, which is why the rest of the post stated your d is predatory

Just can’t resist though…

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 7, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

One question I wanted to ask the Vikings fans

Was there any backlash against the St. Paul Saints after the NFCCG? Was there just a mass burning of anything with the word “saint” on it? I mean, they have to stay warm during those Minnesota winters, so that seems like the logical choice. Just something I’ve been wondering about this past year.

"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.

by VAsaintsfan on Sep 7, 2010 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

How did Viqueens get to NFC game?

Dallas’ 5 turnovers. Don’t hear whining from them, do you?
Matter of fact, since Moses there’s not been a whinier team on the planet. The viqueens have earned a preputation as whiny little bitches and it’s gonna stick for years to come.

Our Time

by CobraJet428 on Sep 7, 2010 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Actually there was a TON of whining from Dallas fans after that game...

I don’t know why so many intelligent people don’t see the reality of NFL fan-bases. WE ARE ALL THE SAME! That’s right… the crybaby Viking fans who bitched about cheap-shots, bad calls, etc… you have thousands of those very same people rooting for your Saints. The people like you who see that behavior and conclude that all Viqueen fans are crybabies, yep, we have tons of people just like you.

Many Viking fans went on record months ago to distance ourselves from that whiny crap. Our posts are not inflammatory so Saints fans don’t hold them up as examples of Viking fans’ opinions… where’s the controversy in that?! It’s easy to hate, it’s easy to take the low road, which is what you have done here, but I realize that you are only one person. There are thousands of Saints fans with better perspective who would not take this type of inflammatory approach. In fact, there are legions of us in every fan-base.

by Jshore on Sep 7, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

anti-rec
WE ARE ALL THE SAME!

Ever been to Philly? Buffalo was the closest I got and that was enough for me. You should come to the Superdome and see a game. You’ll be welcomed and you’ll have a good time, even if you’re wearing a Wikings jersey.

Ain’t it hard when you discover that he really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal, how does it feel?

by stujo4 on Sep 7, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok yeah there may be huge differences in home-team crowds,

but fan-bases include millions, most of whom never go to a game.

by Jshore on Sep 7, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I went to the game against Buffalo this year, and was appalled at how my family and I were treated. My parents actually had a chance to speak with a member of the Saints personnel, and he said that New Orleans was much better.

"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we kick the Vikings from the Dome to the foot of Canal Street!" - MtnExile

by Northfan on Sep 7, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasn't really that bad, just a lot of yelling


I did have one guy run up close to me and say “Hey, welcome to Buffalo” while his buddy screamed “a**hole” in my other ear. So that was nice.

Ain’t it hard when you discover that he really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal, how does it feel?

by stujo4 on Sep 7, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had an asshole in front of me, stating that, because I cheer for the Saints and am from Canada, I also cheer for cancer and terrorism. It was pretty horendous

"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we kick the Vikings from the Dome to the foot of Canal Street!" - MtnExile

by Northfan on Sep 7, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

*horrendous

"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we kick the Vikings from the Dome to the foot of Canal Street!" - MtnExile

by Northfan on Sep 7, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAhAHAHAHA

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on Sep 7, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure I read it here a while ago...

Some member (Big Easy?) said his eleven year old son had got a football behind the head. That is just unforgivable.

Mr. Johnson, my admiration for not retaliating against those two morons….

Repeat? Under construction...

by FrenchFreak on Sep 7, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, there was a ton of whining from Dallas about “running up the score”. There wasn’t a lot of whining about the refs or anything else tho.

Slightly different TYPE of whining, at least.

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly the game wasn't close.

It’s tough to whine about a missed call when you like by over 20 points.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 7, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they got spanked. :-)

One or two missed calls won’t fix that.

They couldn’t do jack against your D.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jshore – I don’t necessarily disagree with what you said. But, the biggest problem for the “many Viking fans who went on record to distance ourselves from that whiny crap” (at least those who are also members of DN) is your moderator and lead guy is the biggest and most vocal whiner you’ve got. He encourages it.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 7, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has been true recently

I have expressed my disdain for his statements several times, as have many other DN members, and I agree that inflammatory posts from a moderator are less understandable than from a random member. Several of us have done our part to encourage respectful dialogue and to welcome CSC members who visit DN.

Ultimately, whether a site administrator or a once-in-a-while visitor, we each choose how we represent ourselves every time we post. In my opinion the Golden Rule is virtually always the ideal measure… the more we conduct ourselves as we would have others behave towards us, the better the overall dialogue will be. I feel in the long-run this will earn me more respect, and I will feel better about my own statements.

by Jshore on Sep 7, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true.

I’m aware that a number of folks at DN have made unsuccessful attempts at reigning in your site administrator. I hope you’re ultimately able to make that happen because you deserve better leadership.

You and the majority of other folks from DN who visit here to engage in intelligent debate or good natured ribbing are always welcome.

May the best team win and may both QB’s walk away from the game with no aches or pains that a couple of Advil can’t rectify.

Geaux Saints.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 7, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Done done done

this is done relax sharpen up the swords (or rapiers for the french quarter) at lets get ready to rumble!

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 7, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a different 5 turnover game, if that makes any sense

Dallas got blown out, and never really had any offense to speak of that entire game. Other than their first two drives, they were pretty much run over on both sides of the ball. Yeah, the five turnovers was a significant reason Dallas got blown out, but comparing that game to the NFCCG is comparing apples and oranges.

And I’ll disagree that pointing out the five turnovers is ‘whining’. Frustration, yes. Whining, no.

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by Ted Glover on Sep 7, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think I saw a team called the Viqueens playing in that game, actually

And I’m pretty sure it was the Saints who started the whole: “Imma bitch and whine and wear a paper bag over my head,” so, please, don’t even try and say Vikes fans have a reputation as being ‘little bitches’ when you would be hard pressed to find a vocal Saints fan pre-Katrina.

by Frost on Sep 7, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

During the days of the ‘Aints we knew our team sucked, and we didn’t blame anyone else for it. Hardly what a rational person would call whining.

Besides which, the Baghead thing was a joke. Saints fans laughed about it as they did it. It was kinda like dressing up for Mardi Gras—another New Orleans tradition that doesn’t translate to the land of ice-fishing. Try understanding something first, before you reference it.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 7, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautifully stated.

“another New Orleans tradition that doesn’t translate to the land of ice-fishing.”

As a great poet once said, “Don’t criticize what you can’t understand”

by Drew-Dat on Sep 8, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol Sure

I doubt it was like dressing up for Mardi Gras. It was a joke, but it was trying to get a point across. You honestly can’t tell me otherwise and be taken seriously. Why don’t I see paper-bags on Saint’s fans heads now if it’s just a dress-up game? Oh, right, because they just won the SB so there’s no reason to show displeasure with the team by wearing a bag.

As if it wasn’t a statement. Please.

by Frost on Sep 8, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a statement but it was anything but bitching and whining as you originally said. That’s the part you don’t get and never will.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 8, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Riiight

that’s why when they started winning, you saw less and less bags. Makes perfect sense. Thanks for clarifying for me. I had no idea.

by Frost on Sep 9, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I'm pretty sure we had vocal fans before Katrina

my family have always been rooting the boys on and thats where I got it from. And we have had success (playoff games) before Katrina so you know there were definately vocal fans then.

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 7, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are one of the most dedicated fan bases in the NFL.

I love how people bring out the paper bags as a reference. Jeez can we go back any further in Saint’s history. I mean that happened almost 25-30 years ago. I’m sure your team doesn’t have any fair weathered fans. I’m sure no one jump on the Vikings band wagon when you hitched it up to Brett Favre. We might not have as many winning seasons as the Vikings, but we do have one more Superbowl.

by rustdog74 on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that man

Honestly as has been stated before fans are fans. I will say that I am ashamed at times at the state the Vikings are currently in, but it’s part of being a small market team. You don’t usually have as many fans. If we were basing how could fans are I guess Chi-town and New York win?

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 7, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah… actually there was a bit of bitching by their LB (I forget his name)… but he was whining about the Vikes running up the score.

Frankly, I was glad they kept trying. It was the right thing to do.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keith Brooking

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good interview

I was surprised by the civility of it, considering what’s transpired the past few months. I agree with this part:

If the Vikes win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I don’t care if they go 0-16 for the next three years afterwards. Honestly, I wouldn’t. It would mean that much to me.

Whatever happens this season, I’ll still be riding the high of finally winning a SB last year. If we win it again, AWESOME! If we make the playoffs but don’t make it to Dallas, we’ll at least have been a playoff team and still eligible to be the team of the next decade. If we miss the playoffs, that’s OK too because I’ll still have the memory of SB XLIV fresh in my mind. I’ll gladly live in the past until next season begins.

"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!

by David "Satch" Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

The "civility" of the interview was due to Christopher Gates non-involvement in it.

At the time, he was too busy writing inflammatory posts regarding his theories of Saints/NFL/Media conspiracies to “rub the Vikings nose in it one more time”. Or, it may have just been because Mr. Gates doesn’t have enough real football knowledge to engage in such an interview.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 7, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea yea yea

lets not focus on that yall.

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 7, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, while I don't support his opinions regarding Saints/Vikings relations...

Chris’ overall football knowledge and specific insight into our team is top-notch.

by Jshore on Sep 7, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how you can separate his opinions regarding that game from his “football knowledge and insight.” Specifically: your star running back is prone to fumbling. He fumbled three times. Your star quarterback is prone to boneheaded mistakes in do-or-die situations. He literally threw away the game. And your coach is one of the worst game managers in the league, and he mismanaged the game.

Those are all serious weaknesses that, in the end, cost the Vikings the game. But Gates refused to acknowledge any of them. This is insight?

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 7, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how anyone could deny the fumbles...

Favre made and threw the exact same read to Rice a week earlier for a TD. In the NFCCG Rice turned deep instead of coming back to Favre as he did against Dallas. You can choose to label that as you wish, but it is absolutely not as cut and dried as you portray it to be. Otherwise, I agree that Favre has a reputation for critical INT’s.

As for time/game management at the end of the game it was potentially perfect on Chilly’s part. Until the penalty, we were in position to attempt a game winner with no time left. I generally agree that Chilly sucks at game management, but that was not the case in the NFCCG. You can argue that he got conservative too soon, but it is debatable.

If after watching that game you conclude that the points you mentioned cost Minnesota the win, then I would question your insight. In my time at DN I have read many solid perceptive assessments written by Gates. It’s actually very easy to draw the distinction that I have, but I understand that it was possibly bad form to do so here.

by Jshore on Sep 7, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve always like the Vikings when they’re not playing the Saints. If the Saints are eliminated and the Vikings are in the playoffs, I’m rooting for the purple Heidi guys. That’s my next goal, a Wiking super bowl win. For Bud Grant.

Ain’t it hard when you discover that he really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal, how does it feel?

by stujo4 on Sep 7, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Completely agree with You. Though I’m afraid it’s time i got on your accountability index once again. Are you ready? Here it comes. VIkings blow out the Saints on Thursday 34 – 17. I’m sorry, we’ve just never dealt well with success, cause you know, we’ve had so little of it. And the Vikings, if they’re smart, will power run it down on throats all day long then beat our weak safeties over the top on play action. Our lack of linebackers and run stuffing DTs will be the end of us. Combine that with Captain mullet treating Bushrod like a red-headed step child won’t help matters either. i hope, i hope, i hope I’m wrong. I just don’t see it. prepares myself for the backlash

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff, just like all those Wikings fans, I protect your right to be so totally wrong about something. I personally think they want to get after Brees, in some ways in the way they think we got after Farve in the last game, but I also believe that they will have a very hard time doing it, and Payton will be sure he is ready for that.

by theprogrammerman on Sep 7, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea I agree

Payton is no dummy. He knows our offense can keep up with the best of them but with no Brees, things will unravel and certainly offensive production will decline. Brees is the key to our success and Payton knows it. He will learn from his mistakes (i.e. Dallas) and make sure that Bushrod gets help. The Vikings have one hell of a D-line and a pass rush to be reckoned with. Payton knows this and will game plan for it. I think as long as we sustain drives, and only get ourselves into short third downs situations instead of must pass third and longs where we will see that Vikings pass rush, and more importantly convert those third and shorts, not to mention taking shots down field at their secondary when we can, our offense will put up points. Good offensive production is the key to this game. I don’t think we have the defense that we did last year at this point with all the injuries this year. I could be wrong but I think being the first game of the season, and some of these defensive guys’ first time out, we will struggle a bit. If we can get to Favre at least most of the time and have a good pass rush, and stand strong in run support, we will force some punts or hopefully turnovers. If we can keep the Vikings offense off of the field and keep our offense on the field more, we will pull it off. I think scoring early will be huge. If we can get on that ride and have positive offensive production throughout the game, our injury ridden linebacker core will not be such a big factor in this game. Our two stellar corners are healthy (Porter may be a little dinged up though) and if we can get some positive production from both Gay and Robinson, as well as solid play from Jenkins, I think AP will have to be at the top of his game. I feel good about this game, would feel better if our linebackers were healthy, but never-the-less I feel positive about our chances to win this game.

by narco301 on Sep 7, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well since he no longer has a mullet, his super powers are gone. So I’m not worried anymore.

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah

Likewise. He’s totally the modern day Samson.

by Frost on Sep 7, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

While i would have agreed with you in the past

I am putting on my homer glasses and saying that this is a new beginning. We will keep our past successes in the past where they belong. But the hunger i see from the team in wanting to show why they were a dominant team for a reason last year is giving me a very optimistic approach. I know old habits die hard, but these are the new Saints. Not the paper bag version. We have an explosive offense and a blossoming D. That points to good things.

The Vikings are a good team as well. But hell if i am going to sit there and think that we can’t dominate them from start to finish. It’s our stadium. We are raising our SB Banner. And we are going to show the Vikings exactly why we are the team to beat this year.

Homer out.

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

As Sean told the team after their 13th victory….“We’re not carrying the sins of old teams on our shoulders…. this is our deal”.

by Drew-Dat on Sep 7, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I expect that D-line to try to get after Brees too

Which is why Pierre Thomas will have a huge game taking and running with dump-off passes after a brief chip on the pass rushers. Peterson definitely is a concern. But I disagree that the Vikings CBs are where they need to be for this game, and the issues at safety were addressed in the post. I’ll accept a shootout with this team in it’s current condition.

You’re entitled to your opinion, Jeff. Even if it is completely erroneous.

by Jimbo03 on Sep 7, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am looking for our D-Line to get to Favre.

From what i saw in pre-season highlights for the Vikings the O-line was not that stellar. Will Smith should rack up at least 1.5 sacks. Factor in BF not being 100% game ready, Rice out, Berrian looking disinterested, etc. I am liking our chances to come out on top.

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The O-Line you saw in pre-season

is not our starting O-Line. They had Herrerra at Center for some reason, and a rookie in his RG spot. As long as Sullivan plays, and I haven’t heard any indication that he isn’t going to, the offensive line won’t be the one you watched.

by Frost on Sep 7, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well fair enough

I just recall against the 49ers, Patrick Willis was let in pretty easy. Coupled with a poor blitz pick-up from AP. I assume that will be corrected. If not, oh boy for BF.

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Us...only put up 17?

Haha. they had the pass rush last time and we scored 28 in regulation. Payton will just stick a TE over there and get backs to help out blocking

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 7, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Combine that with Captain mullet treating Bushrod like a red-headed step child won’t help matters either. "

So, he’s going to do what he couldn’t/didn’t do in the NFCCG?

He’s going to try harder this time?

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, you’re right. Stopping him for one game will mean he’ll never get another sack again. My bad.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then why did i pick him in Fantasy Football

Good lord man disclose these kinds of facts as early as possible.

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jared Allen is a good player, but do you all realize his sack numbers are kind

of inflated. If I remember correctly didn’t most of his sacks come against the Greeen Bay Packers 7.5 of his 14.5 sacks, so that kind of inflated his totals throughout the year. He had 7 games with no sacks. I’m not going say he won’t cause havoc during the game. His double team could lead to others getting sacks or pressure. I know he has other intangibles that are not measured by stats, but I think we have a good chance to contain him like we did last year.

by rustdog74 on Sep 7, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff, seriously: it’s just as likely that Bushrod will improve, based on his experience playing against not only the Vikings but also the Colts, in extremely big games. In fact, it’s more likely. Did Bushrod inspire Allen, or expose him?

Might Allen pick up his game? Sure…but it seems you’re assuming Bushrod either can’t, or won’t.

It was worth the wait.

by MtnExile on Sep 7, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me it’s the reality of a proven all-pro going against a career backup who got thrust into the limelight last year. Bushrod played above his ability, i can’t see that continueing, whereas the all-pro DE…is probably going to stay all pro. It’s simply a matter of comparing the talent. And Allen’s exceeds Bushrod’s, that’s all.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

If what you're saying is true...

Bushrod’s play (plus some help) exceeded Allen’s PB talent last year.

I don’t see Bushrod regressing all that much.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

and...

he was a backup for 2 just years behind a PB LT….

It’s not like he’s been in the league 6 years and was always a backup to even marginal players.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who said never again...

I just pointed out that it’s not a guarantee… which you seem to think it is.

Just because he does it to other teams, didn’t help him do it to us last year.

And, since we stopped him one game, we have a good chance to stop him again.

Want to go to the Saints vs. Cowboys game? I've got an extra ticket.

by Dan Kelly on Sep 7, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff, you remind me of those guys last year who said over and over that the Saints were all out of luck. Starting at game 2 @ Philly. They’re still saying it. Eventually they’ll be right. But not this week.

Ain’t it hard when you discover that he really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal, how does it feel?

by stujo4 on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Did Jeff make your Accountability Index?

I remember the same thing last year from a few Saint’s Fans. I think for some its hard not to revert back to the old mentality(sp) the Saints can blow it any time. Who can really blame them? The 2007 year was pretty bad. I think they need to remember we don’t have the same type of defense as we did before. I think the Saints have as much as a chance to win this game as the Vikings(channeling my inner Madden sayings). The main Key to win this game is whoever score the most points.

by rustdog74 on Sep 7, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

jeff’s on there for 3 separate infractions.

Ain’t it hard when you discover that he really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal, how does it feel?

by stujo4 on Sep 7, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, i’m a Stu accountability regular. I have never said we were all luck. We played hard, we played our asses off and got everything we deserved. Sometimes though, you run into a better prepared buzzsaw. That’s simply what this game is feeling like to me at the moment, like they’re ready to gel, and we’re still too busy celebrating.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will preface this by saying…if i’m wrong…i couldn’t be happier.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's recognize this for what it really is...

a psychological defense mechanism. Some people just expect the worse so that they can’t be overly disappointed, and have the chance of being unexpectedly surprised. It creates more upside mentally for some people, and helps them handle the downside should it ultimately occur.

Otherwise, although I strongly disagree, I suspect that Jeff really expects a Saints win.

by Jshore on Sep 7, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No…i actually had us going either 11-5 or 10-6, i keep flopping on one game. But have this one down as a loss.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

38-21 Saints baby!!

Here we come to get u

Two Dat!! Who Dat!?

by ReggieVilma on Sep 7, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

34-20 vikings.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Sep 7, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I never really got rollerball….maybe cause i don’t like James Caan. Although his kid is funny in comedic roles.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was great social commentary that is still apropos today....and it just kicked ass.

it’s worth another look. altho, maybe your comment was only meant to be snide.
yea, i remember you…lighten up…go talk to dang hu dat…he’ll hook you up.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, wasn’t snide. I’m not that “snidy”. Maybe one day I’ll sneak a peek again. It has been a good 10 years.

by jeff.l.b on Sep 7, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised to hear the Vikings offenisve line characterised as healthy.

Viking’s starting center John Sullivan was out of the 3rd preseason game with a “calf injury” and they Vikings O-line was all jumbled including flip-flopping the tackles. Needless to say, they did not looked terrible. Farvre got sacked and hit repeatedly resulting in at least one fumble and a pick-6. This was against the Seahawks mind you.

What’s the word on Sullivan and how MN will adjust their O-line, if at all? Even with a decimated LB corp, I believe that a MN offense sans Sullivan changes the equation. Specifically, I believe the Saints become strong favorites, and the the Saints’ DL takes a step toward answering their critics.

by Thomas Stuart on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

well, someone might have said healthy and...

compared that to last year. they were “allegedly” suffering from injury last year, as an excuse for their lackluster performance for the year. however, apparently (lt)mckinnie’s foot is better, (lg)hutchinson’s “injury” is all better and (rg)herrera’s shoulder is supposed to be healed. that being said, ©sullivan suffered some kind of calf injury that has kept him out of all of training camp. we have been shuffling experimental replacements at center during pre-season.

i for one, am not convinced their is any improvement over last year…i think we are actually more vulnerable due to sullivan’s status. i think this is our weakest link. they kill ya for saying that over at DN with dogmatic mumbo-jumbo….but it’s just the plain truth.

so, thursday’s match-up will once again highlight the infamous mn o-line vs. greg williams and his crazy-ass blitz schemes….man, you guys brought it hard in january, kudos to you.

but this game i think mr. barfve will dump the ball with quick strike passes, and we will run the ball a lot more to use up the clock. AND, our defensive front 7 will try to immitate the rabid pit bull approach that you guys brought in the nfccg. attack the ball and the backfield, it worked!

either way, it should be an awesome game. i’m looking forward to it…i hope you are too, saints fans.
ARE YOU EXCITED YET !?!?!

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Sep 7, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest

If i am not going over my mental list of all the things i need to ensure the arrival of our second child goes off without a hitch, i am thinking about this game and the upcoming season.

I cannot wait!

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Our daughter is now 6 days overdue. I am betting that my wife is telling her to stall and wait for Thursday.

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, No, NO!. She needs to tell her to wait for FRIDAY!

Both of you need to be able to watch the game!

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

I am hosting the opener with several people coming over. Even 4 confirmed Vikings fans. I told my wife that my 17 month old son and I would hold a grudge for at least a few minutes if she decided to go into labor on opening day.

Football is easy if you're crazy as hell

by Grumps on Sep 7, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

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