(Ctrl + Alt + Del), It's Time to Reset
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 10, 2011 10:56 AM CST
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PrintOur season just had its plug pulled and now it's time to start the seven month process of rebooting. After Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory went on IR this past week, it started becoming clear that we should lower our expectations for a TWO DAT this season. A struggling running game plus a banged-up defense plus a struggling return game plus a Drew Brees not quite at last year's form were going to seriously limit our chances at a second Lombardi trophy this year. Better to get eliminated now than later. This way the team can get more rest and healing time in preparation for next season.
I didn't believe in Super Bowl hangovers until this year. Our guys looked tired and less focused for the playoffs this past Saturday. They looked like a team that had been playing hard for almost two years straight. I'm just happy they broke the streak of Super Bowl winners not making the playoffs the year after. Last season's championship is enough to keep me happy for two or three years. Wasn't it appropriate that the Colts were also eliminated Saturday? They had their own problems this season including a long list of players lost to injury. They looked beat down and tired also. Something seems different about the sport than when the Patriots won back to back championships in 2004 and 2005. It seems the offseason distraction of TV appearances, advertisements, etc. have become more numerous these days for star football players. I think both the Colts and Saints just needed the rest.
The Seattle Debacle
Dave and others have already thoroughly discussed the game and I agree with most everything I've read so far. I can't read it all. It's too depressing. The defense let us down big time and Devery Henderson and Robert Meachem looked totally lost when returning kicks. The effects of losing Courtney Roby and Pierre Thomas to IR were on full display every time Seattle kicked off after their numerous scores. Roman Harper only seemed to be present in body and not in mind. He's definitely worthy of the "goat" tag on defense. It appeared that the losses of Jenkins, Hargrove, and Clark were more serious than we thought they'd be. Even though the offense struggled to run the ball and Reggie Bush (The $8 Million Man) didn't contribute like we'd hoped, they were still able to score 36 points. In most games, this would have been more than enough, but in a game where the defense was shredded like a shrub before Edward Scissorhands, it fell short.
Rebooting
Some are concerned that there may not be a 2011 season, but I disagree. The owners aren't so blinded by greed that they're going to risk diminishing the sport's overwhelming popularity. They'll reach an agreement by March and all will continue as normal provided they drop the 18-game schedule idea. Players' bodies had enough problems trying to get through this year's 16-game season and there's no way they'll agree to that this year.
It's time for Mickey Loomis to go to work and add to the great team he and Sean Payton have already assembled. The running game looks like the biggest problem area right now. I hope they don't hastily kick Pierre Thomas to the curb. He's a valuable weapon when healthy. Chris Ivory has potential if he can fully dedicate himself to the offseason conditioning program and get his body strengthened to handle the pounding he likes to give it. Reggie Bush simply isn't worth the money he's getting paid. If he doesn't renegotiate his contract, they should let him go and focus that money some place else.
My current hope for our first round draft pick goes in this order - Mark Ingram, a strong pass-rushing DE, or an OLB. It's never easy to predict who Pay-Loo will select, but I think a RB may be high on their list. I know they've had lots of success with UFAs at RB, but something tells me they'll be looking to draft one if a high enough rated player falls to them. Last I heard, Ingram was projected to go in the mid to late 1st round.
After reading this press conference transcript, I don't think Gregg Williams will leave this year unless the perfect head coaching offer comes his way. Denver just doesn't seem like a place he'd be interested in.
A Positive Spin
The Seahawks rose up to a level of play that they hadn't displayed all season, so full credit should go to them. They definitely looked like a playoff team against us and in their own building. Will it continue? I think not. The Bears are about to get the easiest playoff win in their history this weekend. There's no way the Seahawks play that well on the road in Chicago. I was hoping that the Falcons would face the Hawks this week so they would get the easy win and advance further. We should all hope our arch-nemesis advances to the Super Bowl and maybe even wins it. Then we can see how they handle the long season, lesser offseason down time, and all of the media distractions they'll be bombarded with. My guess is that they won't handle it all that well and will experience their own "Super Bowl Hangover" next year. This will help us win the division in 2011. The Bucs may pose a challenge, but they're a young team and may go into their offseason program thinking they've arrived and then come out for the season less mentally prepared than they should be. That's when we'll spring the trap on them. The Panthers? Anything is possible in the NFL, but it looks like they'll have a very long way to go before they become competitive.
Many others have probably already pointed out many of the things I've posted here, but like I said earlier, it would be too depressing for me to read through everything that's been posted since the game. It's time our guys go back to being an anonymous team that few in the national media talk about. That's how Payton likes it and that's when our team seems to play its best.
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I hope we don't draft a running back in the 1st or 2nd round
It’s not worth the investment. RBs can be found elsewhere.
PayLoo like to go with the Best Player Available, and I agree with that philosophy as a general rule. I just hope the best player available is a lineman of some sort.
by Stuart Carlton on Jan 10, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions
It’s not worth the investment. RBs can be found elsewhere.
As long as your idea of “elsewhere” isn’t PayLoo’s idea of “elsewhere”, I’m fine with your idea.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
WE SHOULD
But we won’t. After rewatching the seattle game and seeing our scat-backs inability to gain yardage in critical situtations, i’d say its our main need right now. Ivory’s success aside, i’m not that high on an undrafted, FA, RB carrying us to SB glory. When you consider that we are likely to lose PT and Bush, there is no other player or position that will singlehandedly improve both our offense and defense. That’s not to say that there is no LB, DL, OL or whatever availble that would not improve that postion and our team, but SIGNIFICANT improvement at RB will increase our overall team performance.
NO RBs IN THE 1ST ROUND
I have seen the track record of that, I don’t like it. 2nd round sure, but there have been so many RBs that were drafted in the first round that just meh.
Offseason Motto: Burn the damn black pants.
"The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades." - Timbuk3
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Actually most stats show that RB in the first round is one of the safer picks.
The only ones with a higher rate of success are Guard, TE, Linebacker, Center and Cornerback with OTs, QBs, Safeties, DEs, DTs and WRs being lower. Notably though, the best success rate for drafting of a RB is in the second round.
You can find info on them at Football future, bleacherreport, walterfootball, bunch of other sites. The degrees vary on what people consider successes and busts obviously, but most of the numbers are decently close.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Seahawks
How Bout them HAWKS
GO FALCONS
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Offseason Motto: Burn the damn black pants.
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(Ctrl + Alt + Del)? Now I understand what went wrong
The Saints are running on Windows. They need to upgrade.
It was worth the wait.
Why waste your time with the Mac. Go all the way and upgrade to what the Mac is actually now built on top of anyway, Linux!
Because I’d like to be able to run an application other than Open Office.
Don't take out the magic pen, don't draw on the infinity board
by stujo4 on Jan 10, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
The owners aren’t so blinded by greed
Satch, it’s 2011. Wake up.
They’ll reach an agreement by March and all will continue as normal provided they drop the 18-game schedule idea.That is not going to happen. You’re on the List.
Don't take out the magic pen, don't draw on the infinity board
Yipee!
I stand by my prognostications.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 10, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
I agree Satch
Too much money to lose by a lockout. I don’t think they are that stupid. TV and cable alone could derail a lockout. I just dont see it happening. List ????
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
Its the opposite that will stop the argument
The owners and league are blinded by greed which is why they will come to an agreement within the next couple months. This is a billion dollar industry…there is no way they are giving up money.
Breesus Is My Homeboy
Except for the fact that the NFL struck a bargain with the networks. They get a crapload of money guaranteed. This will allow the owners to pay the every day expenses without losing a dime. Now granted, that money has to be paid back eventually if there’s no games played, consider it like a loan with pretty much 0% interest. This will allow the owners if they choose to strong arm the players union for a much longer period of time without worrying about loss of revenue.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
by jeff.l.b on Jan 11, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
boom rec'd it
Do you think the owners would NOT have football games if it meant forcing the players to capitulate? Hell yeah. They like money a LOT more than football.
Don't take out the magic pen, don't draw on the infinity board
Of course they do. But they also aren’t complete idiots as well. (Not collectively at least, there are a few who probably are as individuals…)
I’m still far more than half-expecting them to impose rules and dare the union to strike. But I’ve recently considered another option as well. I think there’s a good chance that what the NFL wants more than anything else is to simply let the CBA expire. As I understanding things, by letting it expire Judge Doty no longer has jurisdiction over whatever happens next. His jurisdiction came about as part of the settlement that ended the 1987 players strike, but it ends with the CBA. The owners consider Doty grossly biased against them, and likely want him gone more than almost anything else.
If I’m right, then don’t be surprised if the negotiations suddenly become MUCH more serious in March or April all of a sudden.
Except if the union is decertified
A lockout under those circumstances would open the owners to an antitrust suit that would likely succeed. That’s their doomsday scenario, under which they’d be liable for treble damages. I think they’ll get something done before the deadline.
It was worth the wait.
Good summary
Saints have precious few playmakers in front 7 defensively (Vilma, Sedric Ellis, Will Smith (occasionally). They need, as Bob Marshall said in TImes Pic, a speed rusher (or two) on the edge. Seattle showed how disruptive those folks can be. That has to be a draft priority.
Saturday’s game showed the limits of scheming your way to victory. You need players. Think how effective GW’s defense would be if he didn’t have to blitz to create a pass rush. As it was, our defensive line rarely could beat their opponents one on one, which made max protect even more effective against our blitzes.
Saints will be fine. They have great core abd great coaching staf. I am confident they will make the right personnel decisions.
Saints have precious few playmakers in front 7
The Saints’ top four defensive ends — Will Smith (5.5), Alex Brown (2), Jeff Charleston (3) and Jimmy Wilkerson (2) — combined for fewer sacks than Atlanta’s John Abraham (13.0) had by himself.
Don't take out the magic pen, don't draw on the infinity board
If you’re going to address the OLB position anyway, why not just switch to a 3-4? I realize Vilma prefers the 4-3, but so does every ILB in the league. You don’t base the scheme you run on the strength of your MLB. You base it on your DEs or your OLBs, whichever is your stronger suit. As of now, I don’t think either one can be considered stronger than the other. In terms of a pass rush, 4-3 hasn’t worked since they instituted it. I’d say give the 3-4 another shot, especially if Williams leaves.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
That’s just it. You base it on the strength of your DEs and OLBs. DEs…Smith isn’t half bad. OLBs….everyone’s bad. We simply don’t have the stock for the switch currently. Obviously that can change with free agency more so than the draft, but that’s a big time investment. Not to mention everyone claims the cornerstone of a 3-4 is the NT…of which we clearly do not have as well. Plus Ellis, our only up and coming defensive lineman is clearly a 4-3 only DT. Additionally (much to your enjoyment I’m sure) that would also mean the end of Roman Harper, as we’d need a SS with good coverage ability as well.
I’m a huge 3-4 fan, always have been. We just don’t have anywhere close to the personnel to pull it off.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
DEs…Smith isn’t half bad. OLBs….everyone’s bad.
A 0.5 to 0 lead doesn’t have me convinced
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
YUCK!
Switch to a 3-4? With Shanle, Dunbar and all those other fools? PUH-LEASE!! A 3-4 is usefull when your best defensive players are LB’s….SEE THE DOME PATROL or the Pittsburgh Steelers. A 3-4 with these ham-n-eggers is a disaster waitng to happen.
I’m saying we don’t have a good enough set of DEs to rule it out. Will Smith can play the 3-4.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
hmm…yea, Smith would be a fairly good 3-4 DE. I like the 3-4…we’d just need a TON of work to make it happen.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
I actually liked what I saw out of Mitchell this year in limited 3-4 play. I’m thinking two OLBs and a DE anyway. What’s wrong with Smith, Ayodele, new DE, Vilma, Mitchell and two OLBs? Trade Ellis for one of the 3-4 OLBs, if need be.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Nothing, but depending on the OLBs, we’d probably just be turning in a slightly unproductive front 7 to a different type of slightly unproductive front 7. We’d have to hit on both OLBs to make it worth while IMO. Unfortunately given how much stock is put into pass rushers over 4-3 DTs…I don’t see a trade of Ellis for an OLB happening. We’d most likely wind up with an average to below average OLB for an above average player simply due to the supply and demand of the position.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Unfortunately given how much stock is put into pass rushers over 4-3 DTs…I don’t see a trade of Ellis for an OLB happening. We’d most likely wind up with an average to below average OLB for an above average player simply due to the supply and demand of the position.
One step ahead of you, my son:
a.) Gregg Williams to Denver.
b.) Ellis for Dumervil.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Moot point anyway. Stu posted earlier that Williams has withdrawn his name from the Denver coaching vacancy.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
If you’re going to address the OLB position anyway, why not just switch to a 3-4? I realize Vilma prefers the 4-3, but so does every ILB in the league.
It’s more accurate to say that he USED to prefer the 4-3 and had problems when NYJ converted at first. But that doesn’t guarantee that he still does. In fact, based on some things about his style of play, I half wonder if he might actually be better in the 3-4 now than he is in the 4-3, especially with a DC he likes and more talent around him for running it.
But either way, give him an elite or very good OLB next to him and upgrade at NT and DE as well (sorry Ayodelle you started the year great but sucked at the end) and he’ll be a lot better next year, regardless of which scheme he’s in. Or even if he’s switching back and forth between both.
Good Post
My question is about Bush everybody believes he isn’t worth 8million and I dont either. But he is set to earn 11 million next year.
Exactley how do you restructure this? what is Bush worth per year?
and how pathetic is our pass rush? pass rushers dont grow on trees I dont see this issue being fixed soon…
by blackandgoldbuddha on Jan 10, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions
Can they restructure it to be performance based?
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jan 11, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm interested in the FA class this year.
The front office has shown that they like to fix their needs through FA so they can draft the best player available. A couple of guys that I like early on (granted their team doesn’t re-sign them) are Barry Cofield DT Giants and Michael Bush RB Raiders. Cofield makes the guys around him much better and is well liked in NY (an accomplishment by itself). Michael Bush is more of a power back who averages 4.4 ypc for his career, and PayLoo wanted to draft him when he came out.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
The front office has shown that they like to fix their needs through FA so they can draft the best player available.
Fix and/or temporarily fill until draft day. Or have you forgotten about Michael Bennett? Don’t worry, most have.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Didn't forget
They usually go out and pick up players that fill a need in FA and go BPA in the draft. We brought in guys like Vilma, Sharper, Alex Brown, and even Clint Ingram this year to fill team needs and then drafted, for the most part, BPA. I didn’t say everybody they brought in worked out, they just have that tendency.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Antowain Smith's told his agent to get in touch with Payloo...hope his fax machine is working
Happiness is a warm blanket.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 11, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
just ignore the "apostrophe s"
Happiness is a warm blanket.
by Hans Petersen on Jan 11, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
I think Seattle will struggle this time.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 10, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I've always supported the Underdog
Thats the reason I have been a Saints fan all these years. No reason to change now. I like Seattle. Just can’t bring myself to root for Falcants, even if they are in our devision. Out house to Penthouse always makes me feel good………..Ted Williams, the voice, showed how one moment in time can change your life.
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
nah, they are still the team that doesn’t belong in the playoffs
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jan 11, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Who are the top SS's in the draft and available in FA?
I think we should look for OT, OLB, DT/DE, too. At RB, are we bringing Hamilton back next season? I’d like to see Thomas, Ivory, and Hamilton.
by BlackandGold4ever on Jan 10, 2011 2:49 PM CST reply actions
Incredibly weak draft for safety.
Top strong safety would probably be Robert Sands, and I’d expect him to be availabe in the third round. Rahim Moore and Quinton Carter are both smaller free roaming safeties with Moore being the clear better player/prospect. He’ll probably go in the top 15 of round 2.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
I'm kind of pumped in a way
This is going to be the most interesting offseason I can recall. CBA aside.
I almost feel like I was cheated out of last year’s offseason in hindsight. Not that I cared being all high on Super Bowl Victory. But nothing really happened… And why should it have? We were flawless. Screw it… draft another DB and call it good, right?
Not this year. I look at this team and half of what I see is “holes”. The other half is Drew Brees, WR’s, JVilma, our young secondary, and a ton of trade potential and good draft picks. I’m really excited for the draft. I again, this year, want a beast of a pass rushing OLB! Please! Just give it to me, and if it doesn’t work out, fire me next year. Just try it Mickey or Sean or Gregg (or John)…
And why should it have? We were flawless.
GAAAAAAAAAAAH!
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Need some changes asap
Our linebacker position is pathetic, we need a psycho long hair young Tongan or bloodline LB to make some crazy plays on defense. And Roman Harper is beyond his time, maybe the massive amounts of grey hair should have clued us in, but I saw something i have never seen before from a SS in the league ever, being chased down, i repeat chased down by a QB, Sam bradford chased him down, i spit my drink out when watching that wow. We should go after Laron Landry type back there, a big hitter, not Sharper and Harper who dive directly at runners ankles for tackles making “business decisions” in there head. Plus we need a more dynamic full back, Heath Evans looks like Tom rathman of 1985, and should not be in the NFL. He looks like he is wearing 5 different shoulder pads stacked on each other. We need an athletic big strong fast guy, that doesnt fall for LB dodges on blocks. And why is Chase Daniel in the league. The play when we had a bad snap and he tried to beat a DE to the touchdown , he looked like a hobbit running away from an orcs. Those short stubby legs and footsteps just gave me a nightmare about post brees football. So to sum up, draft priorities
LB— crazy fast young psycho… mathews from Oregon
FB— Micheal Bush from raiders
SS— and Earl Thomas type
Backup QB— Alex Smith from niners.
Casey Matthews? The guy is a 4-5th round prospect at best. A lot of people don’t even have him as draftable. Just because he shares blood with Clay….doesn’t mean he’s Clay.
Michael Bush…..is not a Fullback.
Earl Thomas….is not a Strong safety.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
I'll take Daniel over Alex Smith any day.
I don’t care about how much experience Smith has. He sucks.
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
In the 49ers system? Yes. In the Saints system? I’d be willing to flip flop the two, based on his skills set alone. Pre-reply to regurgitated Smith stats: I said alone. I’d take Rhett Bomar over Daniel for the exact same reason.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Rhett Bomar
douche.
/Is an SHSU grad
//Jon goes to SHSU
Offseason Motto: Burn the damn black pants.
"The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades." - Timbuk3
Canal Street Chronicles-you know you want to
Douche or not, the guy has more pro potential than Chase Daniel.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
No one has allowed for Chase Daniel’s douche factor.
Don't take out the magic pen, don't draw on the infinity board
Chase is on the team
therefore, his douche factor is limited. It’s also how I can justify being a Shockey fan…until he leaves.
Offseason Motto: Burn the damn black pants.
"The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades." - Timbuk3
Canal Street Chronicles-you know you want to
Can't the Vikes grabbed him for three years or something.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Yeah, I know. Solid acquisition on their part, me thinks.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Really I don't know much about the guy except he got kicked out of Okie
for getting paid by some boosters… Shows a lack of intelligence that he got caught…
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
relax road rage
casey mathews maluaga type
M bush, is big enough to play FB.
Earl thomas type, speedy big hitter
A. smith is good for this system.
You’re funny. Casey Matthews….again…is no where near a Mauluga type.
Michael Bush may be 245 lbs…but he’s anything but a full back.
Earl Thomas is fast, but in know way is known for being a big hitter at 197 lbs soaking wet.
A. Smith….is not good for ANY system outside of Utah’s.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Casey did pretty good last night against Auburn
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jan 11, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Made one good play on the strip. Other than that…about what I expected. Looked like a potential special teamer/late round pick.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
I like the Tonga/Samoan ideal
we might be one of only a few teams that doesn’t have that player. A starter anyway. Love to have a Palomalu type at any Def. position.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica-Jim Halpert
My three best qualities? Hard worker, Alpha male, Jackhammer- Dwight K. Shrutte
Pio Sagapolutele wasn’t fail enough for you during the Ditka regime?
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Ditka regime = Fail
but I didn’t Pio was such a non-factor.
You think you know, and you don't know, and you never, ever will.-Jim Mora Sr.
Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica-Jim Halpert
My three best qualities? Hard worker, Alpha male, Jackhammer- Dwight K. Shrutte
What about our guys on IR?
Is Photo-op any good when/if fit? And the guys from Wake Forest drafted
a couple of years back must be getting healthy soon.
That could`ve been me,a useless knome fishing
for turds in a birthing pool.
Well…nobody knows about Photo Op…as he hasn’t been healthy since his redshirt sophomore year of 2005 (no, I’m not making that up). We’ve already let Chip Vaughn go the way of the wind….I’d say his teammate will soon join him next year…but given our lack of athletic depth at linebacker, who knows. Stu will undoubtedly tell you that Arnoux is done.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
rotoworld.com:
Stanley Arnoux-LB- Saints Nov. 23 – 11:12 am et Saints placed LB Stanley Arnoux on injured reserve with an Achilles injury, ending his season. It’s the second straight year that an Achilles injury has ended his season.Have you ever seen a man with ONE torn Achilles tendon? TWO??? He’s done.
Don't take out the magic pen, don't draw on the infinity board
Sorry your season ended like that was rough to watch
Good news is you’ll have the fire back next year for sure. Also, if i were you I would be interested in an OLB that could tackle…
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Sorry Grimes....we've been interested in an OLB that could tackle for years...unfortunately PayLoo has been less interested. Guess our votes don't count.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Little known fact
Marshawn Lynch was coated in Crisco last Saturday. That’s why our guys couldn’t bring him down on that long run. :)
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 12, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Thats what they call a 'Teflon Hangmans Lynch"...........................
They left us to hang out and dry………………SAD !!!!
My Magnificent Black and Gold Warriors
I read there was a small 30-45 second earthquake during the time he was running – seriously
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
does it matter?
we could eat the vikings this year with our cheerleaders suiting up.
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
I would kinda prefer your cheerleaders to eat me actually.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
You cannot haz
Offseason Motto: Burn the damn black pants.
"The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades." - Timbuk3
Canal Street Chronicles-you know you want to
by Jon Banks on Jan 20, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
voted Other......
anybody know of a Brian Mitchell type Returner in the draft? Patrick Peterson, anyone???? Trade up to get him, maybe?
DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeremy Kerley of TCU is projected in the 5th-6th round. 5’10" 192 WR.
From Scout.com:
Kerley was named the Mountain West Conference’s Special Teams Player of the Year for the second time in his career this season after totaling 864 return yards and ranking second and third respectively in the conference in punt and kickoff return average. He also landed on the MWC’s second team offense as a wide receiver with a team-high 50 catches for 517 receiving yards and 10 touchdowns this year. He leads the conference in all-purpose yards per game, averaging 122.8 yards a contest. For his career, Kerley ranks eighth all-time in TCU history with 12 touchdown catches and enters Saturday’s Rose Bowl with 1,241 receiving yards and 2,254 return yards. He’s also proven to be a threat running the ball with 301 yards on the ground and eight scores over the course of his career and can throw it too—completing five of seven attempts for 135 yards and one touchdown. "Jeremy is an electrifying player any time he can get his hands on the ball," Hale said. "His versatility will really help him during Senior Bowl week and we’re excited about having him here later this month."
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Sounds like Bush :D
Ok that was kinda a low blow.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Thanks cp....
way to bring it!
DON'T STOP 'TIL WE REACH THE TOP!!!!!!!!
Another SAINTS fan in Panther country!
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SAINTSfaninNC on Jan 13, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
OK, I'd take him
I’f he can produce
"If you ask ME, though, any game without push-ups, hits, burns or noogies is a sissy game" Calvin to Hobbes
whole new revamp
We need to get some better players on defense through the draft or free agency. I think our O-line is pretty good and the reason Drew was having to move is because they (seahawks) knew he wanted to pass because of our injured run game. Didn’t the Saints offense get an all-madden award or something like that? We also need a great running back and some new receivers. I have seen to many dropped passes all season long.
by believerofgoldandblack on Jan 15, 2011 4:24 PM CST reply actions
Last year the offensive line got the Madden/Prilosec Most Valuable Protectors award. This year they were in the running for LVP instead.
The OL needs help in the draft or free agency. So does the front seven on defense as well.
The Saints’ OL is nominated again this year, you can vote here.
The OL is not in the top 4 needs that should be addressed.
Who knows where or when old wounds will mend?
They don't deserve to win this year.
I wouldn’t vote for them. Too many penalties and not enough consistency. They were better than most other O lines, but not THE best. I agree that OL isn’t a top need. We just drafted Charles Brown early in last year’s draft. He’s had a year to adjust. I’m interested to see how he’s doing now. The defensive front seven is the top need. Running back may be next depending on what they do with PT and whether or not they can figure out a way to keep Tusk healthy. I’d still like to see them grab Mark Ingram if he’s available.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 16, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
This year the only reason they were nominated because they were the defending champions from last year. Other than that, they were middle of the pack. You know, just like Ryan.
But then, you see Ryan wrong too, so I guess it’s understandable you see our OL wrong as well.
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