NFL Divisional Weekend: The Day After Wrap-Up
by Jon Banks on Jan 18, 2011 6:01 AM CST
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There were four games this past weekend. Both NFC games were decided before the second half even started while the two AFC games came down to the wire. Both 2 and 6 seeds will advance to the championship round in each conference, where the winners will head on to the promised land. Make the jump to see how it all went down.
Ravens 24 @ Steelers 31
Quick Recap: Considering these two teams are known for defense, this was a high scoring game. Consider this: the two regular season games between these two teams had a total of 54 points of offense. But this game alone had 55 points. The Steelers opened the game with a touchdown on their opening drive, after a pass interference penalty set them up. After a few changes of possession, the Ravens were able to get the ball in for a score thanks to a Ray Rice run. However, the Steelers then began to give the game away. The first mistake being a fumble on the Steelers own goal line, where no one seemed to realize the play was still live. Cory Redding would be the only one to grab the ball, running into the endzone for a TD. Then on the ensuing possession by the Steelers, Rashard Mendenhall fumbled the ball at the Steelers 15-yard line, which would be recovered by the Ravens. The Ravens would score a touchdown on that possession, making it 21-7 at halftime.
After the half the momentum completely shifted toward the Steelers. A fumble by Ray Rice, his first of the season, led to a Steelers touchdown almost immediately. Later in the 3rd quarter, Joe Flacco would throw the ball to the wrong team and the Steelers would score just as quickly to tie the game at 21. Then at the end of the quarter, Ravens center Matt Birk fumbled the snap and the Steelers recovered. They settled for a field goal and the lead.
Then, with six minutes left in the game, Lardarius Webb ran a punt back for a touchdown but was reversed when a Steelers player made a NBA/soccer-like flop that forced a holding penalty against the Ravens. Flacco was unable to get the ball into the end zone and the Ravens settled for a field goal to make the score 24-24. The Steelers drove down the field, but a Roethlisberger sack left a 3rd and 19 for the Steelers on the 38-yard line. On the play, Big Ben heaved the ball 58 yards to Antonio Brown for a helmet catch after running past all Ravens defenders. The Steelers would put the ball into the end zone with 1:33 left to make the score 31-24. The Ravens got the ball back, but went a quick 4 and out to lose the game.
Playoff Impact: The Steelers advance to the AFC Championship Game. The Ravens are eliminated.
Steelers Analysis- 1st half 2nd half
Packers 48 @ Falcons 21
Quick Summary: I have to give my personal opinion: this game made me giddy. The Packer's punter never came on the field. Not once did the punting unit walk on to the field. Packers got the ball first and on 3rd down Greg Jennings caught the ball, ran past the first down marker and then fumbled the ball to Grimes. The Falcons took advantage of this and got the ball into the end zone behind Michael Turner. Aaron Rodgers would then get the ball and lead his team down the field for the tying score. On the following kickoff, Eric Weems ran 102 yards for the go ahead score to make the game 14-7. Rodgers got the ball back and (shockingly) led his team down the field for a score. Matt Ryan was intercepted in the end zone and Rodgers led his team down the field for, you guessed it, another score to take the lead 21-14. Ryan started driving again but his worst enemy, Tramon Williams, intercepted the ball with :10 seconds left and ran it all the way for six to make the score at halftime 28-14.
After halftime the game got boring from a football standpoint, and was only interesting just because Aaron Rodgers looked scary good. The Packers converted 8 of 12 third downs and Rodgers was 31 for 36 and 366 yards for 3 TDs and a rushing TD. It's offical, Aaron Rodgers is a fantasy football god.
Playoff Impact: Packers advance to NFC Championship Game. Falcons are eliminated.
Seahawks 24 @ Bears 35
Quick Summary: The score makes it seem like this was a good game in which the Bears were just the better team. What really happened was the Bears dominated the Seahawks, who were able to take advantage of a Bears' defense in prevent/don't-give-a-crap mode late in the game. I actually fell asleep watching this one, and I feel sorry for you if you watched this game too. Matt Hasselbeck's line: 26/46 for 258 yards and 3 TDs. Jay Cutler's line: 15/28 for 274 yards and 2 TDs. 8 rushes for 43 yards and 2 rushing TDs.
Playoff Impact: The Bears will host the Packers in a NFC Championship Game for the ages. The Seahawks are eliminated. How did the Saints lose to the Seahawks?
Jets 28 @ Patriots 21
Quick Summary: A week after toppling Peyton Manning and the defending AFC champions, the Jets knocked off Brady and the almost unde'feet'able Patriots. On the Patriots opening possession, Tom Brady threw his first interception since the Ravens game in Week 6. The Jets missed a field goal after going three-and-out and were unable to score even though they started inside the 30-yard line. The Pats drove down the field and had to settle for three points.
In the 2nd quarter the Jets were able to score a touchdown following some big plays by LaDainian Tomlinson and Braylon Edwards to make the score 7-3. Toward the tail end of the half the Pats faced a 4th and 4 from their own 37-yard line when a fake punt direct snap to Patrick Chung was fumbled and failed. The Jets took advantage after the possession change and were able to put the ball in the end zone. Score at halftime was 14-3 in favor of the Jets.
The third quarter started off incredibly boring, as both teams could not muster any offense. Then as the third quarter began to wane, Brady was finally able to put together a drive and lead his team to a touchdown. A direct snap two-point conversion by Sammy Morris pulled the Pats to within three points. The Jets were able to respond, however, with a big play from Jericho Cotchery for a 58-yard catch and run and then this amazing play from Sanchez to Holmes for the touchdown, putting them on top 21-11 with 13:00 left to play.
The Pats then went on an incredibly long drive that ended when they were unable to convert a 4th and long play. The Jets ran some clock off before giving the ball back to the the Patriots, who were forced to kick a field goal just a few ticks after the two-minute warning. On the ensuing onside kick, the Jets recovered and were able to return it to the Patriots 25-yard line. Two plays later, LT was in the end zone to make the score 28-14. The Pats would get the ball back and drive down the field to score yet again but were unable to recover the onside kick.
Playoff Impact: Jets advance to face the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game. The Patriots are eliminated.
So CSC, which game did you think was the most exciting this weekend? Which game did you like the most? Now that the field is a bit more limited, which team are you supporting?
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The quarterback that’s possibly a rapist, or the coach with a weird foot fetish…
Either way its gonna be one sexy Super Bowl
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jan 18, 2011 7:18 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 18, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
its hard for me to root for any of these teams
i was hoping for a hamburgers option… but i guess i have to go with the pack, just because they destroyed atl.
"As a Saint fan I watch ‘Gone with the Wind’ just to watch Atlanta burn" -Ralph Malbrough
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jan 18, 2011 7:29 AM CST reply actions
Jets look like the best team to me
The score doesnt show it but they dominated the game with the Pats shutting down the best offense in the NFL
Say what ever you want we still have our Lombardi and there's nothing you can do about it
by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 18, 2011 7:43 AM CST reply actions
I would take either Jets or Packers
Just because I dislike the other 2 options.
SP: "No, No, No. I said 'Let's all take it to the Vikes again' not' Let's all take 2 Vicoden!'"
Btw, for those of you that are still sold on the importance of the almighty pass, here’s a quick look at this year’s 12 playoff teams and the frequency at which they aired it out:
63.50% Saints
63.34% Colts
58.56% Seahawks
56.72% Eagles
56.24% Packers
53.72% Falcons
52.95% Bears
52.76% Patriots
50.42% Steelers
50.20% Ravens
49.58% Jets
46.07% Chiefs
Five of the top six will be watching the Super Bowl on television.
Make that six of seven, in terms of a non-balanced offense, as the Chiefs were more run-heavy than the Falcons were pass-heavy.
I do recall someone in this very group saying that a run-heavy team will never again win the Super Bowl. Rest assured, it hasn’t hurt the Jets’ chances of doing so this year.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
sometimes
The people i watch games with would get angry when we’d run the ball this year. Even though we only ran it like 10 times all year, each run would be welcomed with nerd rage. It seems sometimes it’s very hard to explain how important a good run game is, and how we would’ve never won a super bowl if we didn’t have one of the leagues best rushing attacks that year.
I’m pretty sure the Seattle game showed everyone exactly what happens when there is zero threat of a run game.
Until we can consistently run the ball effectively year in and year out, we should expect many more first round playoff disappointments.
Have Payloo draft a Bell Cow and you won't be hearing the nerd rage anymore.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Had to Google "bell cow"
and now that i know what youre talking about, i’m going to agree. WTB a hardass power back who’s gonna crack some unfortunate linebacker skull.
c’mon, does anyone here think the Seattle game is representative of our running gameplan? Health Evans was at tailback for crying out loud.
Agree on more balance and need for a running game, though.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 18, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
I dont think
It represented what our gameplan was youre correct there. I am sure we WANTED to run the ball. I did think though it showed how quick we were to abandon that game plan and throw it 40 times. These are all things we complained about in 07 and 08 though.
we can blame injuries for that but that’s silly. If we can’t trust our backups to at least adequately carry out the game plan at their position, what are they there for?
My money is on Green Bay.
While you’re at it, repeat this exercise for last year’s playoff teams. Different story.
Pre-reply: which is not to say we shouldn’t strive to be more balanced. I’m all for obtaining a serious running back next year.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 18, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
While you’re at it, repeat this exercise for last year’s playoff teams. Different story.
Hardly at all, actually.
This year’s final four:
56.24% Packers
52.95% Bears
50.42% Steelers
49.58% Jets
52.30% average
Last year’s final four:
62.15% Colts
54.22% Vikings
53.75% Saints
39.30% Jets
52.35% average
I didn’t bother breaking down the entire playoff field, as it would do nothing to support or refute my point. The only real exceptions were the Colts and Jets and they offset one another. Of the final four, the team closest to 50% (Saints) won the Super Bowl.
I’m not a betting man, but if I was, my money would be on the AFC this season.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Only half of the story there CP.
Let’s look at the top scoring offenses from around the league and their pass ratio:
Patriots: 52.76%
Chargers: 54.35%
Eagles: 56.72%
Colts: 63.34%
Falcons: 53.72%
Raiders: 49.35%
Giants: 52.89%
Cowboys: 57.37%
Texans: 57.57%
Packers: 56.24%
So as you can see, most of the offenses that are the best in the league at putting up points are what you would call “pass happy” teams. And the most balanced team in the group didn’t even make the playoffs. But like I said, focusing on one stat doesn’t even begin to tell you the complete story. Correlation and causation, CP.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jan 18, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
So as you can see, most of the offenses that are the best in the league at putting up points are what you would call "pass happy" teams.
Actually, I’d only consider one of those teams “pass happy”. There’s a difference between pass-heavy and pass-happy. Even if every team in the league passed more than they ran, you would have an upper echelon of teams in whatever other statistical category you chose to focus on. On top of which, scoring isn’t inherently corrulated to winning. Scoring more than your opponent is. That’s what makes time of possession so key.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Again, half of the story
If you run the ball and hold on to it for a huge portion of the game, the only thing you are doing is ensuring both teams will have fewer possessions. What have you accomplished?
As I’ve stated before, time of possession is a symptom of winning, not a cause. A team moving the ball down the field is usually going to hold on to the ball for longer than a team going 3 and out. A team that is winning is usually going to run the ball to eat up clock at the end of the game and artificially add to their time of possession. Again, correlation and causation, know the difference.
You are right that you have to score more than your opponents, and that is the only thing that matters. Scoring through the air counts just as much as scoring on the ground. Any way possible is the name of the game.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
by VAsaintsfan on Jan 18, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
If you run the ball and hold on to it for a huge portion of the game, the only thing you are doing is ensuring both teams will have fewer possessions. What have you accomplished?
What you’ve accomplished is to limit the collective amount of time your opponent will inevitably have to work with within those fewer possessions, as they attempt to offset whatever you manage to score in your own. If they’re matching you tit for tat, that probably won’t be so evident until their final abbreviated drive of the game. If they fall behind by two scores, it most certainly will be. Would you rather hold a 10 point lead with 40 minutes to play or 39 minutes to play? If you answered the former, you’re a fool. If you answered the latter, a slightly more time consuming drive AT ANY POINT OF THE GAME would account for that advantage.
Call it a symptom. Call it a cause. No matter what you choose to call it, there is nothing that corrulates more closely to winning than TOP. That includes both scoring and turnover ratios.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
My answer is that it doesn't matter
at 40 minutes and 39 minutes, the opposing team has all of the time they need to run their offense the way the want, and do whatever they need to do. Time is not an issue.You may have limited the time your opponent has to work with in his next possession, but you’ve also done the exact same thing for your next possession. If you can time it to give yourself one extra possession, then great, but that takes some exceptional clock management on both sides of the ball.
So if you go on a long drive, and score a go-ahead TD to take a 2 point lead, would you rather be in the lead with 7 minutes or 5 minutes left? The correct answer to me is that the only thing that matters is not letting the other friggin team score again. If they put together a 5 minute drive and kick a field goal, it would have obviousely been better for you to have scored quicker on the previous drive. You’d then have time to score again, instead of being assured a loss. Not that you would know that during your previous drive. So yeah, if you can know the future, then controlling time of possession may have some value to you.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Of course it matters. As stated, they have all the time they need to run their offense the way they want, and do whatever they need to do, AS LONG AS THEY MATCH WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED SCORING WISE ON YOUR DRIVE. If they don’t, eventually that extra minute will become an APPARENT factor. No matter if it’s apparent or not, it’s still a factor. A minute spent by one offense is a minute that the other offense will absolutely, positively not have at their disposal. If, at any point, they’re forced to speed up their game in order to score, then that minute spent earlier has behooved you, as mistakes are more likely to happen. Both a fumble and an interception can occur on a pass. Only a fumble can occur on a run.
You may have limited the time your opponent has to work with in his next possession, but you’ve also done the exact same thing for your next possession.
I didn’t say anything about their next possession. I said the cumulative time they have to work with. As in, throughout the course of the entire game. Correct me if I’m wrong, but your opponent isn’t any more guaranteed to score on their next possession (nor again in the entire game) than you are. All that can be said with 100% certainty at that point, is that your opponent absolutely must score 10 points before the end of regulation, in order to avoid a loss. No matter what you think of that minute at the 40/39 mark, it’s still a minute they may possibly be afforded at some point.
Conversely, YOUR next possession is a bridge that you haven’t gotten to yet. True, by scoring quicker, you’d be allowing yourself more time to score again. That’s of zero consequence however, if you either a.) score or b.) stop your opponent from scoring in the interim. Without getting into the dynamics of a 2 pt conversion, the worst that’s going to happen if you fail to do either one of those two things is that they’ll tie you on the ensuing possession.
No head coach or offensive coordinator operates under the assumption that they’re NOT going to score or stop their opponent. Sure, it happens. It’s absolutely NOT something you plan ahead for by allowing yourself time to overcome it. If you’re putting that much thought into how quickly you’re going to score AGAIN, odds are you’re not going to score in the first place.
So if you go on a long drive, and score a go-ahead TD to take a 2 point lead, would you rather be in the lead with 7 minutes or 5 minutes left?
5 minutes, without question. Either is more than enough time to engineer a scoring drive. As a head coach, I’m not worried about whether I get the ball back AGAIN at either one of those two intervals. I’m operating under the assumption that my defense is going to stop them. If they don’t and we lose the game, then I shake the opposing coach’s hand for understanding the importance of TOP by leaving me with squat to work with.
So yeah, if you can know the future, then controlling time of possession may have some value to you.
You don’t need to know the future at all. All you need is complete confidence in either your offense or your defense. Preferably both. If you’re scoring each time out on offense, odds are you’re going to win. If you’re stopping your opponent each time out on defense, odds are you’re going to win. Neither is 100% guaranteed. I take a 10 minutes to score. You take a 2 minutes to score. No advantage there. I get it that. The advantage lies when I score and you DON’T. Or when I score a TD and you only score a FG. As soon as scoring separation after an even number of drives exists, the clock is now YOUR enemy, not mine. YOU have to score more points than ME in presumably the same number of remaining possessions. THAT’S the TOP advantage you play for throughout a game. Granted, that can all be blown by the wayside, if you stop me and score yourself. Still, you’re no worse off than if you would have disregarded TOP all along.
I’m not saying it’s more important than scoring. You HAVE to score in order to win. At the same time, you can’t possibly LOSE, if your opponent doesn’t have possession (outside of a safety). On top of which, there’s the whole unpredictability angle of a balanced attack. Truly unrelated arguments though, as you can control the clock with short passing. It doesn’t absolutely require a rushing attack, it’s just the preferred method based on margin of error in not moving the sticks, chance of turnover, etc.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Scoring more than 2 points is a symptom of winning, not a cause. Losing teams score 3+ points quite often. Teams that score just 2 points are fully capable of winning games. See? I can apply that irrational line of thought, just as easily as you can.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Kicking the most extra points has a direct correlation with scoring more touchdowns. Let’s build our team around kicking extra points. Forget all other means of scoring. That’s the one that counts! See? I can apply your irrational line of thought as well.
"I want to hand this trophy to the MVP of the Super Bowl -- and the MVP of the entire league.''
-- Saints coach Sean Payton, handing the Vince Lombardi Trophy to Drew Brees after Super Bowl 44.
Scoring through the air counts just as much as scoring on the ground.
Depends on what part of the scoreboard you’re looking at.
Same amount of POINTS? Yes.
Same amount of TIME afforded your opponent to match? No.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
Assuming of course that scoring through the air isn’t via old school Bill Walsh West Coast style of 4-5 yard passes.
"Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not 'every man for himself.' And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up."
Assuming all passes are completed, there’s still the disadvantages of:
a.) the flight of the ball versus the speed of a RB under opposition.
b.) the amount of time spent in between plays, going in and out of the huddle, etc., that being under the assumption that a RB won’t average 4-5 yards per run, thereby extending the scoring drive by a few plays.
But you’re right, it’s still a lot better than airing it out.
"I was not on the boat in question" -Darren Sharper
calling it
Jets to win the super bowl. I dunno if yall saw the Bart Scott interview yet, but that is pretty much what convinced me.
Expect Cutler to choke it away once Martz abandons the run after the first quarter in the NFC championship.
I’ll be rooting NFC in the super bowl, but i expect the jets to win it.
Expect Cutler to choke it away once Martz abandons the run after the first quarter in the NFC championship.
Past experience may not necessarily indicate future results. But it’s enough to get you on the List.
Out with the truckers and the kickers and the cowboy angels
Now now Stujo
We all know that Cutler is due for an epic collapse. When you don’t get to see the Cutler sad face for to long, the world goes out of balance (i.e. pigs start dating chickens, we put the toilet seat down for the ladies without being nagged, hamburger sales drop in favor of water cress sandwiches, etc).
I can’t wait to see this on the weekend:
I like Hamburgers!
lol what list is that?
Past experience may not necessarily indicate future results.
i wonder if i did that right. Anyway, yes you’re absolutely correct there, any Saints fan who disagrees with that is a silly.
I’m not basing my prediction totally on things that happened before this season though. The bears are middle of the league as far as rushing goes, as are the packer’s defense at stopping it. That could go either way but im leaning towards the Packer’s defense there.
I’m just seeing this game turning into Cutler vs Rodgers passfest. which to me means Greg jennings fun times and clay mathews making Culter pout most of the day.
Nothing huh
Its only the most terrifying list you could possible find your self on.
"I understand this is a violent game. It's the only place you can hit somebody and not go to jail. So you understand that it's a privilege to play this game." Danny Clark
I'm not afraid to admit it, I like Jay Cutler.
Maybe it’s just the biased Vanderbilt alum in me, but I think the media has given him a bad rap. He didn’t just go from being a good QB in Denver to sucking in Chicago. His troubles have been due to having zero starting caliber receivers and the worst offensive line in football. It’s a good thing he learned to run for his life at Vandy because it’s come in handy in Chicago.
He might be cocky, bit most of all he’s just competitive as hell. He’s not so much arrogant as he just hates the media, especially after they made him out to be a crybaby for not wanting to have anything to do with McDaniels (which he has since been proven right about). Sean Payton hates the media and they try to get even with him too.
I still think the Packers will win, but it will be due to Chicagos sorry recievers and line, not Cutler.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 18, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hoping for Packers-Jets
But I’m expecting Packers-Steelers, with Green Bay winning it all.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Jan 18, 2011 10:52 AM CST reply actions
I agree
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jan 18, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
This amazing catch
Almost caused the stands at Heinz Field to fall down, due to the jumping and screaming of Steelers fans.
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." Martin Luther King Jr.
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
I have no idea to what you are referring, and don’t give a crap either.
Out with the truckers and the kickers and the cowboy angels
That would be the Antonio Brown 59 yard catch to set up the GWTD for the Steelers
I still have no idea what the Ravens were think there
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." Martin Luther King Jr.
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan
by WVPiratesfan on Jan 18, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
I know who Emmanuel Sanders is, but had to look up Antonio Brown. Rotoworld.com:
If Brown does little else in his career, the sixth-round pick from Central Michigan will always have that highlight-reel play to hang his hat on.I’m thinking that’s not such a big “if”.
Out with the truckers and the kickers and the cowboy angels
Hey, where’s Fast Willie Parker these days?
Out with the truckers and the kickers and the cowboy angels
A free agent waiting by the phone.
The Broncos reportedly “flirted with the idea” of signing free agent Willie Parker before trading for Laurence Maroney. It’s not quite as damning as the Packers choosing practice squadder Dimitri Nance after considering Parker. Now 29 and running on fumes, Parker is a poor fit as a third back because he doesn’t help in the passing game, in short yardage, or on special teams.
I like Hamburgers!
I will b rooting for the Packers....
although I like some of the Steelers that are from New Orleans like Mike Wallace and Ryan Clark. Its hard to root for the Steelers when Big Ben is there.Honestly, the Superbowl is going to b boring (just my opinion). Then I think about LT and how I would like him to win a Superbowl. Yeah…. So Packers and whoever from the AFC lol!
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